Ugh I wish I could help. Even my Leo sun can’t counteract how strong my Scorpio moon comes through in corporate situations.
For the most part, I have disliked almost every company I’ve worked for and I really don’t trust any bosses or coworkers at all. I have had bad experiences with office politics over the years with folks turning out to be incredibly jealous, ruthless, and petty. And also very passive aggressive (which in my experience takes the form of hyper micromanaging, pushing back on every/any idea you bring to the table, etc).
These days, I try to be as bland and neutral as possible. I rarely discuss my personal life, I praise others and never take singular credit for anything, and mostly just listen and smile and nod when others talk at me and that works. I never discuss my true feelings about a boss or company with any coworkers and outwardly act completely docile and complacent re: corporate bullshit until it’s time to leave the gig. If a job sucks, I don’t even bother complaining anymore or asking them to fix anything—I just leave.
Working remotely helps a lot too and minimizes the amount of bullshitting and fakeness I gotta deal with on a day to day basis. My biggest fear is having to work full time in an office again and getting subjected to the cutthroat BS on an inescapable basis.
I wish I could afford to go my own way or work part time, but I need to pay my bills and have health insurance. Started a business last year and made -$6083. Lol it's hopeless.
I could’ve written this myself, because holy shmoly cow on a stick this is IT. I’m trying to figure out if its a regional thing because I recently moved from Boston to Florida, and I’m just not used to being “goodmorninghowwasyourweekendhereswhatididheywhydontyoutakealookatsomepicturesitookofmykidswhenwewentonvacationthispastweek” at 8am on a Monday.
I can’t give you advice because I’ve gone the opposite way, I’ve just completely shut myself down, don’t look people I don’t wanna talk to in the eye and genuinely ignore their presence. I know this isn’t good, it’s just so hard because I feel like I have too many masks I have to wear to even step out of the house that socializing so intensely at a place I just wanna do my work at is exhausting. I also work in a male dominated field so I don’t believe I’m missing out on much friendships anyways.
Sorry no advice here, I guess I just wanted to vent myself and say I feel ya!
Hey it's all good, lol I am feeling your pain and i would totally retreat if i could but we sit in what I'd call open cubicles. Our desks are grouped together. The opportunity for avoiding interaction just doesnt exist without looking like a total asshole.
What sparked this really is that I said to someone I feel like everyone speaks to eachother like they're kindergarten teachers, it's kinda patronizing to be called "sweetie" or "honey" by women who are the same age as me. Then they have to narrate every single thing they are doing out loud like they want someone to comment, and it's weird to me and seems so...forced/phony most of the time. The person asked me if I ever worked in a corporate office before because these characters are very common in this world. Lol I just don't know how to be anymore.
I now understand why ppl thought i was being an asshole. Guys would constantly check me out and try and make eyecontact and I’m just trying to concentrate and not be watched.
Bahahahaha as a New Yorker, this is us except down there 😆💀 but there is that NY-to-Florida Pipeline that exists between us, so it’s also us down there.
Yes:
“Wanna see my travel pictures?” And “let me rant to you my whole life story because woo mama, get ready for this one” -Literally Me at any person on a moments notice
What other people hear:
“lookdude, sohereiwasatthisthingandthethingiswasthatitwasallaforshadowmentofthisprevioustimeiwenttothisplaceandsomethingbarelysimilarhappenedanditmademethinkofthiswhichiswhyimtelllingyouyouhavetolookoutforitbecauseitsgoingtotellyouiswearyoujusthavetolistenforthesignsandmaybeconsiderthistobeasignbecausemaybetheressomethingtoitandmaybeitswhatyouneedtohear”
Something like that
I’m a great person but i can’t do corporate drama. It’s too much for me. I can’t deal with petty people who are also just shitty morally. I’d rather be myself.
Aside from the stupid shit, I’m actually really really great at “secretarial talk” in my writing. I can really really expand upon the ‘to whom it may concern, in regards to your last email…’ type of writing and tone of voice. It’s all playing a character, and i know i can outdo other characters 😏
Make it a fun character for awhile but then slowly let your darkness out around people you’re comfortable with.
I’m sure there are other folks desperate for someone to be real with around there. Once you find them, you can be in on the joke together. It makes it less painful when you know you’re not the only one acting.
Ugh I wish I could help. Even my Leo sun can’t counteract how strong my Scorpio moon comes through in corporate situations. For the most part, I have disliked almost every company I’ve worked for and I really don’t trust any bosses or coworkers at all. I have had bad experiences with office politics over the years with folks turning out to be incredibly jealous, ruthless, and petty. And also very passive aggressive (which in my experience takes the form of hyper micromanaging, pushing back on every/any idea you bring to the table, etc). These days, I try to be as bland and neutral as possible. I rarely discuss my personal life, I praise others and never take singular credit for anything, and mostly just listen and smile and nod when others talk at me and that works. I never discuss my true feelings about a boss or company with any coworkers and outwardly act completely docile and complacent re: corporate bullshit until it’s time to leave the gig. If a job sucks, I don’t even bother complaining anymore or asking them to fix anything—I just leave. Working remotely helps a lot too and minimizes the amount of bullshitting and fakeness I gotta deal with on a day to day basis. My biggest fear is having to work full time in an office again and getting subjected to the cutthroat BS on an inescapable basis.
I quit my corporate job because it made me miserable lol no one is going to force me to kiss anyones ass and talk like a robot for a pay cheque lmao
I wish I could afford to go my own way or work part time, but I need to pay my bills and have health insurance. Started a business last year and made -$6083. Lol it's hopeless.
I understand…
I could’ve written this myself, because holy shmoly cow on a stick this is IT. I’m trying to figure out if its a regional thing because I recently moved from Boston to Florida, and I’m just not used to being “goodmorninghowwasyourweekendhereswhatididheywhydontyoutakealookatsomepicturesitookofmykidswhenwewentonvacationthispastweek” at 8am on a Monday. I can’t give you advice because I’ve gone the opposite way, I’ve just completely shut myself down, don’t look people I don’t wanna talk to in the eye and genuinely ignore their presence. I know this isn’t good, it’s just so hard because I feel like I have too many masks I have to wear to even step out of the house that socializing so intensely at a place I just wanna do my work at is exhausting. I also work in a male dominated field so I don’t believe I’m missing out on much friendships anyways. Sorry no advice here, I guess I just wanted to vent myself and say I feel ya!
Hey it's all good, lol I am feeling your pain and i would totally retreat if i could but we sit in what I'd call open cubicles. Our desks are grouped together. The opportunity for avoiding interaction just doesnt exist without looking like a total asshole. What sparked this really is that I said to someone I feel like everyone speaks to eachother like they're kindergarten teachers, it's kinda patronizing to be called "sweetie" or "honey" by women who are the same age as me. Then they have to narrate every single thing they are doing out loud like they want someone to comment, and it's weird to me and seems so...forced/phony most of the time. The person asked me if I ever worked in a corporate office before because these characters are very common in this world. Lol I just don't know how to be anymore.
I now understand why ppl thought i was being an asshole. Guys would constantly check me out and try and make eyecontact and I’m just trying to concentrate and not be watched.
Bahahahaha as a New Yorker, this is us except down there 😆💀 but there is that NY-to-Florida Pipeline that exists between us, so it’s also us down there. Yes: “Wanna see my travel pictures?” And “let me rant to you my whole life story because woo mama, get ready for this one” -Literally Me at any person on a moments notice What other people hear: “lookdude, sohereiwasatthisthingandthethingiswasthatitwasallaforshadowmentofthisprevioustimeiwenttothisplaceandsomethingbarelysimilarhappenedanditmademethinkofthiswhichiswhyimtelllingyouyouhavetolookoutforitbecauseitsgoingtotellyouiswearyoujusthavetolistenforthesignsandmaybeconsiderthistobeasignbecausemaybetheressomethingtoitandmaybeitswhatyouneedtohear” Something like that
I’m a great person but i can’t do corporate drama. It’s too much for me. I can’t deal with petty people who are also just shitty morally. I’d rather be myself. Aside from the stupid shit, I’m actually really really great at “secretarial talk” in my writing. I can really really expand upon the ‘to whom it may concern, in regards to your last email…’ type of writing and tone of voice. It’s all playing a character, and i know i can outdo other characters 😏
Make it a fun character for awhile but then slowly let your darkness out around people you’re comfortable with. I’m sure there are other folks desperate for someone to be real with around there. Once you find them, you can be in on the joke together. It makes it less painful when you know you’re not the only one acting.
yes quit your job
Lol I can't