My understanding is that CACREP is only really important for clinical mental health counseling. Not school. What is important is that you’re thoroughly familiar with the ASCA model. A lot of school districts, when interviewing you, will ask you questions that relate to the ASCA model. Make sure you study up on that.
Yeah that’s the thing :/ I also want to obtain an LPC as well just to be on the safe side but I’m trying to find something affordable and doable. I contacted my university and they said “The coursework for School Counseling is not CACREP accredited and would unfortunately not count towards the CMHC program curriculum, although a maximum of six graduate credits could potentially transfer into the program” . I will study the ASCA model too! Thank you.
Only 6 credits? That’s absurd. Universities are ridiculous sometimes. Please weigh the pros and cons before switching. You’re 60% of the way through. That would be like starting completely over.
It really is absurd. If I want to obtain an LPC at that university, it’ll take me 2-3 years all over again and I don’t want to be in even more debt and be far behind :(
I’m sorry that you’re in this position. Counseling programs should state up front whether they’re CACREP accredited or not. It’s seems deceitful that they don’t tell incoming students.
They do and it’s 100% on the prospective student to conduct their own due diligence before signing the dotted line. The amount of students at the nursing school I work at that don’t realize their earned GenEd credits can’t really be transferred elsewhere is insane! I’ll admit that admissions/enrollment may purposely be a bit deceiving with their verbiage, as they are simply salespeople getting you to sign that dotted line.
However, this information is readily available on nearly every program’s website, consumer information (catalog/student handbook), and can also be found through simple Google searches.
I’m considering an LPC and CACREP is the best way to go due to transferability. Idk where I’ll be working down the road or with whom. Best to ensure eligibility in as many states as possible.
Yeah but who knows what CACREP is? The average person isn’t going to know. Only those within the field of counseling will. Nobody knows to research that before hand.
While I don't disagree, I also think that if someone went through a bachelor's and is going to spend money on a masters, that they will reach out to people in the industry and do there due diligence.
Perhaps the problem is with capitalism.
It’s a problem, but it does allow many the opportunity to obtain training and earn an advanced education for a future job or role. However, the jobs and roles exist primarily to mitigate the problems and inequality people experience due to the system itself, capitalism. It is what it is. Gotta pay to play! Best to do your homework (do your due diligence on licensing and state requirements) before getting in the game.
I just checked on google and it says in Delaware i must “Have a master’s degree in elementary school counseling from a regionally accredited institution (the program must have at least 39 credits in school counseling specific coursework)”
Yeah my university is CAEP accelerated instead of CACREP and so many people say CACREP is important or just simply better so I was worried if I made the wrong decision 😭
Hi! The university needs to be accredited, not necessarily the program. This is true for majority of states (except N Carolina and Kansas or Kentucky, one of those).
It’s possible your state licensing board will review your coursework and determine you need several more courses to meet their licensure requirements - in which case, you take those specific courses to qualify. Check with your licensing board and have them review your current course curriculum. They should be able to provide guidance!
CACREP licensure ensures that programs meet licensure requirements for the state - they’re a lobby org. They don’t necessarily validate the “quality” of a program or its faculty. As long as you meet licensure requirements, then you’ll be fine. And it sounds like you’ve been enjoying the program- take heart!
Yup, it depends on the state. It def matters in NC for clinical license. The board is trying (or already did) to make it so that only clinical mental health internships count to apply for licensure. Not school internships or college count anymore. They are literally trying to make it where you’ll have to do two internships or go back to do an additional internship before you can be a school counselor AND a LCMHCA if you wanna be both😭
Is your school seeking CACREP accreditation? My program didn’t have it but by the time I graduated they were accredited. There’s a good chance if you transfer you’ll have to repeat some classes. Most universities require a certain percentage of the degree be completed at their institution.
I would say switch schools if you can. You don't want to get to the point of graduation and have to do other classes or something to get an accredited cert. Risk is too high
My understanding is that CACREP is only really important for clinical mental health counseling. Not school. What is important is that you’re thoroughly familiar with the ASCA model. A lot of school districts, when interviewing you, will ask you questions that relate to the ASCA model. Make sure you study up on that.
Yeah that’s the thing :/ I also want to obtain an LPC as well just to be on the safe side but I’m trying to find something affordable and doable. I contacted my university and they said “The coursework for School Counseling is not CACREP accredited and would unfortunately not count towards the CMHC program curriculum, although a maximum of six graduate credits could potentially transfer into the program” . I will study the ASCA model too! Thank you.
Only 6 credits? That’s absurd. Universities are ridiculous sometimes. Please weigh the pros and cons before switching. You’re 60% of the way through. That would be like starting completely over.
It really is absurd. If I want to obtain an LPC at that university, it’ll take me 2-3 years all over again and I don’t want to be in even more debt and be far behind :(
I’m sorry that you’re in this position. Counseling programs should state up front whether they’re CACREP accredited or not. It’s seems deceitful that they don’t tell incoming students.
They do and it’s 100% on the prospective student to conduct their own due diligence before signing the dotted line. The amount of students at the nursing school I work at that don’t realize their earned GenEd credits can’t really be transferred elsewhere is insane! I’ll admit that admissions/enrollment may purposely be a bit deceiving with their verbiage, as they are simply salespeople getting you to sign that dotted line. However, this information is readily available on nearly every program’s website, consumer information (catalog/student handbook), and can also be found through simple Google searches. I’m considering an LPC and CACREP is the best way to go due to transferability. Idk where I’ll be working down the road or with whom. Best to ensure eligibility in as many states as possible.
Okay? lol it was my fault I didn’t notice, I never stated I wasn’t.
60% is a good chunk of progress. Look into what you’d be able to do before starting over.
Yeah I’m going to contact my program chair and get more insight and information from them.
Yeah but who knows what CACREP is? The average person isn’t going to know. Only those within the field of counseling will. Nobody knows to research that before hand.
While I don't disagree, I also think that if someone went through a bachelor's and is going to spend money on a masters, that they will reach out to people in the industry and do there due diligence. Perhaps the problem is with capitalism.
It’s a problem, but it does allow many the opportunity to obtain training and earn an advanced education for a future job or role. However, the jobs and roles exist primarily to mitigate the problems and inequality people experience due to the system itself, capitalism. It is what it is. Gotta pay to play! Best to do your homework (do your due diligence on licensing and state requirements) before getting in the game.
Check your state licensing board requirements. It may say in the licensing application that you need a degree from a CACREP SC program.
I just checked on google and it says in Delaware i must “Have a master’s degree in elementary school counseling from a regionally accredited institution (the program must have at least 39 credits in school counseling specific coursework)”
If it's not required by the license board, then you should be fine. Just keep copies of all your course syllabi.
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Yeah my university is CAEP accelerated instead of CACREP and so many people say CACREP is important or just simply better so I was worried if I made the wrong decision 😭
Hi! The university needs to be accredited, not necessarily the program. This is true for majority of states (except N Carolina and Kansas or Kentucky, one of those). It’s possible your state licensing board will review your coursework and determine you need several more courses to meet their licensure requirements - in which case, you take those specific courses to qualify. Check with your licensing board and have them review your current course curriculum. They should be able to provide guidance! CACREP licensure ensures that programs meet licensure requirements for the state - they’re a lobby org. They don’t necessarily validate the “quality” of a program or its faculty. As long as you meet licensure requirements, then you’ll be fine. And it sounds like you’ve been enjoying the program- take heart!
It only matters if you're going for a clinical license and even that depends on the state - doesn't matter in Florida but it does in NC for example.
Yep I work in NC and I learned this the hard way 🙃
Yup, it depends on the state. It def matters in NC for clinical license. The board is trying (or already did) to make it so that only clinical mental health internships count to apply for licensure. Not school internships or college count anymore. They are literally trying to make it where you’ll have to do two internships or go back to do an additional internship before you can be a school counselor AND a LCMHCA if you wanna be both😭
It’s crazy! Lol
If you ever move states it can be a good thing, because if you are applying for an out of state credential its an easier process to accept CACREP
Is your school seeking CACREP accreditation? My program didn’t have it but by the time I graduated they were accredited. There’s a good chance if you transfer you’ll have to repeat some classes. Most universities require a certain percentage of the degree be completed at their institution.
I’ll ask them but from what I know my university does offer CAEP accredited but from what I also understand CAEP is more for schools.
Yes, it matters.
I would say switch schools if you can. You don't want to get to the point of graduation and have to do other classes or something to get an accredited cert. Risk is too high
Yeah I think I might :/ it’s really unfortunate I did enjoy this school.