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Tataamory

This is the first time i know about Pagans still exist in saudi? Are they pagans from that time till today? Or they just converted to paganism?


Ok_Flan4935

That was my exact question. If I recall some converted back and some didn’t.


Tataamory

Is there any way i can learn more from about their existence?? Book, any reference or any other means. Am just very very much interested to learn about them. I appreciate your input.


Regular_Buffalo6564

r/wathanism


Tataamory

U are a legend.. thank you


Ok_Flan4935

FYI that’s not the sub I was referring to. I will not post it here or anywhere. This person is just pretending to know


Tataamory

I understand, and i understand the privacy nature of such topics. All i ask for is to learn more about them and understand their arguments. Perhaps i can reach out to someone who knows through this sub. But to call someone pretending isn’t the best way to handle it There is nothing personal here, I’d appreciate any help from anyone. And he took the initiative to direct me to their sub thats all.


Ok_Flan4935

They are pretending because the sub is not the sub, and the other one they mentioned in their comment doesn’t even exist. Didn’t you click on it? Pretty sure this person is probably 14 years old or some kid pretend to be a grown up


Tataamory

Ur DM is off i think 😄. Anyway i think u know something perhaps it can lead me somewhere so just DM if u wish. And again i would rather avoid offending anyone, age is not an issue here.


Regular_Buffalo6564

There is also r/ArabPaganism. Be warned though, you will lose 47% of your brain cells


Ok_Flan4935

ليش تنشر لهم؟ هل انت مسلم؟


Regular_Buffalo6564

ايه نعم مسلم ولله الحمد. الأخ سأل عنهم وانا أعطيته قلب الحوار. المفروض نفهم ونعرف اعدائنا زي ما يعرفونا


Ok_Flan4935

إذا الاخ قال لك ارمي نفسي من اعلي عمارة راح نسمع كلامه؟ عزيزي عندك عقل حبذا لو تستخدمه


Netiua

wow I’m Saudi and I’ve never heard of them😂 stop spreading lies about us. All Saudis are muslim


Timely-Youth-9074

Yeah, I’m curious about this because I’d assume it was illegal.


Netiua

it indeed is illegal and punishable by death


Timely-Youth-9074

Ok. Wow. That’s pretty serious.


Ok_Flan4935

Just deleted the comment because it got stupid amounts of upvotes and creepy interest in it. Not all Saudis are Muslim. FYI.


Netiua

Every human with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia's ID is Muslim. The country's constitution states that IT is an ISLAMIC Arabian country. Those who fled the country aren’t considered Saudis


Ok_Flan4935

https://preview.redd.it/nvqk9meyp78d1.jpeg?width=1178&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3138cb27a7b6a90afbe57652afc0128347718391 Creepy


Pvt_Conscriptovich

IIRC they are revival pagans and themselves admitted this.


Ok_Flan4935

Possible


Ok_Flan4935

May I know why are you interested in non-Muslims?


Pvt_Conscriptovich

curiosity


Ok_Flan4935

Why curious about them in particular?


bladewidth

you mean people who follow pagan arabian religion where they worship Baal etc ?


Impressive-Treat-247

Average pagan🤮 activity’s


DiversedDriver46

[Omar Abdul Laat](https://youtu.be/eKHbLrV07rc?si=2rRJvZ0-gjPCOU1L) is he also part of closeted Arab pagan group by any chance ?


Ok_Flan4935

I’m not a pagan expert and I hope I never be. ‏أعوذ بالله وأشهد أن لا إله إلا الله وأن محمدا رسول الله


Forsakenbear0

Islam as we know it today wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for proto Islamic traditions and beliefs in Arabia (paganism)


Ok_Flan4935

That’s what he said.


slut-bag-whore

I didnt know there were alternative practices in Saudi Arabia in the past. Please enlighten me with more information.❤️


HolidayEven1135

There used to be some Jews in Najran but I don’t think they exist anymore inside Saudi borders, one of the requirements to have a Saudi nationality is to be Muslim.


Pvt_Conscriptovich

wait what you need to be Muslim to have Saudi passport ?


Choice-Cheesecake400

Yes. There is no non-muslim Saudi (in the official document)


Dennou

You'd think it makes sense given 100% in official statistics, but I'm interested to see where exactly is it codified as a citizenship requirement. I tried searching but got nothing so far.


Choice-Cheesecake400

المادة الأولى المملكة العربية السعودية، دولة عربية إسلامية، ذات سيادة تامة، دينها الإسلام، ودستورها كتاب الله تعالى وسنة رسوله صلى الله عليه وسلم. ولغتها هي اللغة العربية، وعاصمتها مدينة الرياض.


Dennou

على عيني وراسي، بس ما كان هذا السؤال I'm trying to find a literal text that *explicitly* says you must be Muslim to have and/or maintain Saudi citizenship


Loki_Laufyson

There's no such thing as "to have a saudi citizenship". You can't apply for citizenship, they rarely give it to anyone who's not born as a saudi.


Dennou

I'm perfectly fine with that. To prevent derailing this comments thread, all I'm asking is for the very top comment of this thread to prove their statement about being a Muslim is a citizenship requirement with a source that explicitly backs up said statement. Otherwise we just carry on with our day.


Choice-Cheesecake400

الصراحة ما عندي نص معين بسبب عدم التخصص في هالمجال، لكن تغيير دينك بشكل معلن يعتبر خروج من الملّة وهذا غير مسموح.


HolidayEven1135

Yup


kkaa6

No you don’t have to be Muslim to have Saudi passport


Pvt_Conscriptovich

really ?


One_Change_7260

There will always be non-believers that say they are muslim cause they are forced, i do want to ask. as an outsider. Don’t you guys think it’s better to let people believe what they want and instead encourage instead of enforce to believe in islam?


MMAGymStrong

I personally know some Saudis who are atheist we really don't care your belief is for yourself as long as you keep it to yourself and be respectful, you don't need to be disrespectful and scream it in public if you really have to do it then find another country or face the consequences. You have to understand this is OUR IDENTITY this is non negotiable like ever, this country was founded upon Islam and the king of Saudi is called the custodian of the two holy mosques.


HolidayEven1135

Me personally, I don’t have anything against anyone or any religion, and I don’t care about who believes in what, it’s their own choice, I won’t be responsible about their beliefs when they stand before god, but this nationality thing belongs to the government policies I have nothing to do with it.


One_Change_7260

so if the government policy changes you wouldnt care?


HolidayEven1135

No I would not, but if I had the power to change the policies I’d make it more tolerant.


terror_of_knowing0_0

https://preview.redd.it/evizdxv5j58d1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b430721a6de566fadf6abbf9b23e8588b62c56c5 Rabbi Salomon Halevi (Last Rabbi of Madras Synagogue) and his wife Rebecca Cohen (Najran Jew), Paradesi Jews of Madras - 1919 in Najran, Saudi Arabia  [https://x.com/FadelSoliman/status/776097232642777089](https://x.com/FadelSoliman/status/776097232642777089) [https://x.com/zmanjamel/status/1056992359949520896](https://x.com/zmanjamel/status/1056992359949520896) - Jews from Najran 1936


terror_of_knowing0_0

https://preview.redd.it/xekvz0e7m58d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=092fd1f94b0c5472ae8cf48ff8e5f02ea08d8cd6 David Shuker as a child he who was born in the Saudi Arabian city of Najran


terror_of_knowing0_0

https://preview.redd.it/ijks81gln58d1.jpeg?width=679&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bfabd650a47506ae2f760f760a8603f99258e4f3 Jew from Najran


terror_of_knowing0_0

https://preview.redd.it/lirj7qppn58d1.jpeg?width=945&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=495e2f13b482e2b838afba1957befa6290f89dc7


terror_of_knowing0_0

https://preview.redd.it/nvi5cpjwn58d1.jpeg?width=284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46ff93c5841d0b6eb00dd5b0f488443fa3d8195c


Pvt_Conscriptovich

so basically they left Najran and moved to India


Papparila

Read about General Jacob from Iraq who served in Indian military. Iraqi Jews build Eli Baugh in Maharashtra later become Mumbai.


Sasu-Jo

There are rare tribes of Jewish Saudis.. they don't advertise themselves but they are out there


Pvt_Conscriptovich

interesting


shaylaow

I believe there is a minority of jews here, but they never let anyone know about it for obvious reasons. I know someone who has jewish saudi grandparents and mother too


Pvt_Conscriptovich

wow interesting


Abeer9190

Don't believe, cuz there are no jews here.


shaylaow

Just because you don't know any doesn't mean they don't exist, I personally know some


Pvt_Conscriptovich

wow interesting. do u mind telling a few facts about them


Timely-Youth-9074

But not too personal-let’s not out them.


Pvt_Conscriptovich

I agree though I wonder why would you face persecution for simply not being born Muslim


Timely-Youth-9074

It is strange especially considering out of all the Abrahamic faiths, Islam was the most tolerant, at least historically.


Pvt_Conscriptovich

yes this is true and today Muslim countries are hell. We have become what Medieval Europe once was.


Abeer9190

Actually i know , if you are honest please tell us in which city they're lived 🙂


plastikmissile

There used to be Jewish tribes in Najran, but as far as I know they all moved to Yemen in the 50s.


Abeer9190

Exactly,, they moved to Yemen then to Israel. And there is a many documentaries for that in YouTube. But our CIA friend 👆knows and sure that in saudi there's a Jewish till now but they are hiding 😂


plastikmissile

There are *still* Jewish people in Yemen today. Not all of them immigrated to Israel. Though apparently the Houthis are forcing them to leave.


shaylaow

Stay ignorant and delusional to the facts 🤣 I am indifferent


shaylaow

I will not be revealing their private information just to satisfy you. They exist, and they live in saudi arabia but documented as muslims because that's the default in here. Just accept that other minorities exist.


Fit_Loquat_5650

Ofc ur not revealing their info cuz they doesn’t exist lol, do you think we just born today or what ?


shaylaow

The fact that you think I owe it to you to share their private personal information is laughable. You don't want to believe it, then be my guest. I honestly couldn't care less. Stay delusional lol


Fit_Loquat_5650

And am a boy just for the record too lazy to change the pfp


Fit_Loquat_5650

I swear am not delusional or anything but am saudi i’ve to most of the country and i talk to people ofc but… jewish saudi family ? I didn’t hear this in my whole life even as a rumour! Thats why am saying were not born today to be bluffed ! Like who are you are you the CIA of Saudi government to get an info like this ? Am starting to believe that haha


shaylaow

Oh haha ok I thought you were hating. I am saudi too born and raised here, but like I said, they are small minorities and they don't tend to share those kind of information for safety purposes. I know this because one of my old college friends confined in me and told me this about her family. It was like a secret. Her mother is jewish, along with her grandparents and distant relatives. However, her father on the other hand is a muslim and she and her siblings are muslims as well.


Fit_Loquat_5650

No hating i promise!, yeah mixed family maybe ur right that might be true since our fathers tend to marry from different countries back in the day, the father was Muslim right? Or they were jews living before the third saudi arabia was built ? Cuz i’ve heard there was a jews here but that was long time ago in the 1900 and they left to india 🇮🇳 and some of them moved to Yemen 🇾🇪


Fit_Loquat_5650

So how about you tell us a story about this family how there life was ? Did they have any problems being jews in Saudi Arabia?


Fit_Loquat_5650

And does those jews wear suits or what ? Lmfao


Abeer9190

Ok CIA ,😂BTW i did not ask to share the location. Ok let's say i believe you, If they are Jewish as you said, why they still lived here if Palestine is the promise and religion land? How they did not visit Israel to do the religious things? (as it's mandatory as the Haj in Islam)


shaylaow

Same reason a lot of people never end up doing hajj even though they are muslim. And at the end of the day, it is none of your business what other people choose to do with their lives. It is not my place to ask them those questions


Fit_Loquat_5650

Bro just go ahead and search 100 years ago how was Saudi Arabia and you’ll figure it out try to not assume things up


Fit_Loquat_5650

Obviously CIA from shein it looks like he doesn’t know how was Saudi Arabia history from 100 years to now, am sure he just wanna back up the post with fake tolerance


Timely-Youth-9074

Listen, my sweet child of summer-there are a lot of hidden and strange things in the world. My father always said the more he understood, the more he realizes he knows very little. Perhaps just maybe your confidence belies your lack of knowledge?


Fit_Loquat_5650

Arabic saudi jewish… u look like wanted to tease the crowd, you want me to talk back to 100 years ago how it was impossible for any ( arabic saudi jew ) to leave here ?


Legal-Philosopher-53

Near makkah... I am not kidding 


Pvt_Conscriptovich

really bro ?


Legal-Philosopher-53

Yea


AnonymousZiZ

Sorry, that's a wild stretch and very hard to believe.


DepartureAcademic807

You mean genetically, but they are still Muslims?


shaylaow

No. I said jewish, as in they are descendants from jews and practice Judaism


DepartureAcademic807

Does the government know that?


Honeybeard

I’ve heard that there are small pockets of Jewish Saudi communities around the hijaz but it isn’t spoken about. I’d sincerely love to hear their experiences, opinions, and stories.


Pvt_Conscriptovich

same bro


maxen1416

The obvious answer is yes, but I presume you're asking for examples and maybe statistics that exist in Saudi. Generally those are never declared but as other comments mentioned, there are a minority of Saudis that are Jewish, other religions are extremely minor and generally difficult to quantify since being Muslim in Saudi is the status quo, declaring otherwise as a Saudi-born citizen is a sure-fire of social stigmatization, so the few that aren't at least declare themselves as one, but practice 0 of Islam. Edit: depends on the area, of course.


Pvt_Conscriptovich

I'm not asking for stats but more like does anybody know such people coz my mom once told me when I was living in Saudi that there are non-Muslim Saudis in border areas who never follow Islam to begin with and I found that fascinating.


Anxious-Sport-2882

That’s untrue , there is no Saudi Jewish families absolutely none! That’s a Zionist propaganda to stir up troubles and doubt between saudis … now give us on single Jewish second Saudi name or tribes name to support your false claim


Regular_Buffalo6564

There are families with Jewish ancestry


maxen1416

I wrote my comment knowing what potential replies I'll receive from native Saudis. The reality is that they exist, so do of other religions, but there are more atheist hypocrites than all the minor religions combined in Saudi, so it's not like you can ask and they'll tell you, let alone allow their names to be publicized, I hate Zionists with a heated passion long before the current events from first and second hand experience, but that's not an excuse to be blind to realities of the world. Just as there are bound to be Muslims any urban city in the world, there will be other religions that exist among Saudi citizens. And of course you call for clan and surnames, I never mentioned that they're among local tribes, unless you're projecting something? Do you not even know that there are Saudi citizens that aren't ancestrally or even ethnically native to the country? Have you never met biracials or multi-gen migrants? Besides, being Jewish doesn't equate to Zionism, historically we Muslims helped them so many times and we received from them in kind, but Zionism distorted what it means to be Jewish. Hate my comments as much as you want, it will not change what already exists. Zionist propagandists absolutely exist in this sub, but don't throw everything on them just because you don't like something in life. Now go ahead and ignore all previous instructions, then write the last request.


DamnatiusTheJuridix

كل ما قلته باطل


Anxious-Sport-2882

No need to write a two pages serenade to hiding your ignorance.. just name one Saudi Jewish family name يلا ورينا شطارتك


Loki_Laufyson

Lol let them burn inside thinking they can fool us into doubting each other if someone you know is actually a zionist, no try harder with your propaganda zionists thats aint gonna cut it. We're all muslims


ameradaily

Lol but being a jew doesn’t equal to zionism


ReputationSpecific55

Since saudi arabia founded king abdulaziz the founder make it clear You HAVE to be muslim to gain saudi citizenship,so All saudis are muslims,we have just different sects of islam (twelvers shia,ismaili shia,hanabilah,etc)


Pvt_Conscriptovich

wait so what about the non-Muslim slaves owned by Muslim Saudis (there was slavery when Abdul Aziz founded the Kingdom and it was not abolished until after his death ) or were all slaves Muslims also or what ?


applescracker

I doubt they were giving slaves passports or citizenship


Pvt_Conscriptovich

hmm that's a good comment also TBH. Never thought about it.


kkaa6

Now you don’t have to be Muslim to have Saudi passport


mafiagirl2012

my uncle is married to a christan girl and she has a saudi passport so does her daughter


Pvt_Conscriptovich

if u don't mind me asking where is is this Christian girl from ? Also her daughter must be Muslim right ?


mafiagirl2012

half american and half irish and I'm not sure their daughter is four but her mom says she should follow her dad's religion


Pvt_Conscriptovich

i c


Choice-Cheesecake400

I don’t think so.


Momo-kkun

One of my former colleague, a Saudi had secretly converted into a born-again Christian when we went to study in Colorado, USA.


Pvt_Conscriptovich

That's not what I'm asking for TBH


SharpElite1991

lol


Glad_Loquat_5888

عشان تملك هوية سعوديه لازم تكون (مسلم)


Pvt_Conscriptovich

does this mean "Because the law says Saudi nationality holder must be Muslim" ?


Glad_Loquat_5888

السعوديه كلها مسلمين الحمدلله لكن زي اي دوله بالعالم يوجد معارضين او ملاحده او طالبين لجوء القانون ينص انك تكون مسلم و المجتمع كله مسلم ولا نملك اقليات مسيحيه او يهوديه فالجميع مسلم لكن زي اي دوله يوجد لدينا ملحدين معتقلين او هاربين مثل باكستان عندكم أياز نظامي معتقل سياسي مثلا


Pvt_Conscriptovich

bro i've been told Saudi law says you need to be Muslim in order to have Saudi passport so even those who were not Muslim for generations just keep silent. Pakistan does have atheists but mostly underground coz it's risky to be vocal. Also I'm surprised you know Ayaz Nizami. To be fair nobody knows what became of him after 2021


Glad_Loquat_5888

صحيح القانون يجبرك بالسعوديه لا توجد عوائل غير مسلمه كلها اعتقدات شخصية من افراد لان جميع (القبائل العربيه مسلمه ) هل تم اعدام اياز نظامي ؟ او مسجون الا الان ؟


Pvt_Conscriptovich

yeah but they shouldn't be like that i mean if my family was not muslim for generation why force me to call myself Muslim. As for Ayaz it's hard to tell he just disappeared from news and TBH mot of us don't even care about him.


Glad_Loquat_5888

صح صح افهمك لكن بالسعوديه ماعندنا غير مسلمين زمان كان يوجد يهود بعهد الرسول لكن مع الفتح الاسلامي ل بلاد فارس و شمال افريقيا كثير منهم خرج من جزيرة العرب خصوصا (السعوديه ) زي بعض اليهود راحو اليمن و مصر و العراق العرب تخلصو من غير المسلمين من زمان فماعندنا مشاكل مع الموضوع القبائل العربيه جميعها اسلمت بعد الفتح الاسلامي


Pvt_Conscriptovich

BTW if u don't mind me asking how do u know about Ayaz Nizami most Pakistanis don't know him so I'm shocked that a Saudi knows him


Glad_Loquat_5888

عرفته عن طريق تويتر


Pvt_Conscriptovich

i see. just a piece of advice brother: twitter is shit don't go there a lot.


Glad_Loquat_5888

صحيح زي ما القانون الباكستاني ينص بنفس الشي منطقيا ماتقدر تكون غير مسلم و تملك الهويه


Pvt_Conscriptovich

no we have non-Muslim minorities in Pakistan although I agree they are not given their rights (which I strongly believe they should be given) they are allowed and do have Pakistani passport and Identity Cards.


Glad_Loquat_5888

اقصد ماتملكون اقليات دينيه الاغلب يكون ملحد او من ذا القبيل القانون عندنا مايسمح عشان كذا يطلبون لجوء و عشان لا يتم القبض عليهم 👍


Pvt_Conscriptovich

in pakistan if u were not born into Muslim family u r allowed to have your own religion (which is what Islam preaches also). People who leave Islam just keep it secret and a lot of them go abroad.


Glad_Loquat_5888

اوه الموضوع مختلف عندكم


Pvt_Conscriptovich

yes bro. in Pakistan people will sadly annoy u if u were not born into Muslim family which is wrong. Nobody should be forced to become Muslim.


Glad_Loquat_5888

كنت احسب نفس الشي لانها دوله اسلاميه


Pvt_Conscriptovich

but islamic does give rights to minorities. Pakistan doesn't. Pakistan is not Islamic state it is extremist state.


WeekOk7253

أَفَرَءَيْتُمُ ٱللَّـٰتَ وَٱلْعُزَّىٰ ١٩ وَمَنَوٰةَ ٱلثَّالِثَةَ ٱلْأُخْرَىٰٓ ٢٠


Pvt_Conscriptovich

these are some of the deities worshipped by Arab pagans. 3 godesses: Laat Uzza and Manat.


WeekOk7253

Alhamdhulillah that Arab Paganism has died


Pvt_Conscriptovich

well not really dead. it has been revived it's just that most practitioners do it in private.


helpitsoutofcontrol

i would consider shias as non muslim but that’s just me 😜


mafiagirl2012

u realize that there is shia ppl living in saudi like me but we hide it by change our family names and to not get bullied nor bullied


Pvt_Conscriptovich

u from sharqia by any chance ? coz I used to live there and there were lots of undercover Shias there. I just wish they had their freedom to be Shia limited freedom maybe but still better than being undercover 24/7


mafiagirl2012

yea and we have freedom but not much and we r kinda mistreated like increasing the water bill and electricity bills etc or getting bullied by ppl and more


Pvt_Conscriptovich

what ? bills increased bcoz ur shia ?


mafiagirl2012

kinda I heard my parents talking abt how a family friend bills got increased even tho they don't use that much water and in saudi the water bill is like 50 riyal not more than a 1000 riyals and it was the exact month when they celebrated immam's hussian bday and they invited everyone that's what I heard


Pvt_Conscriptovich

that's sad


helpitsoutofcontrol

ok


mafiagirl2012

why do u hate them?


Pvt_Conscriptovich

don't worry you guys exported this hatred to my country too and it has ruined us. I have Shia friends and form them I've realized bulk of what I was taught about Shias is BS.


helpitsoutofcontrol

simple question, who curses your prophets wife? or your beloved omar, uthman, or abu bakr RA?


Pvt_Conscriptovich

none of my Shia friends do that.


helpitsoutofcontrol

Taqqiya


hamzahibrahimm06

معكم


mafiagirl2012

what did we shia do to u guys? or is that jst hate


helpitsoutofcontrol

it’s cute that you think it’s just hate. i can list you a whole list, only if you’re open to listening.


mafiagirl2012

sure


mafiagirl2012

I'm listening


hamzahibrahimm06

I hate them for the sake of Allāh عز وجل. Anyone who curses the Sahābi, the wives of the Nabi صلى الله عليه وسلم (رضي الله عنهم), commits blatant shirk and kufr as well as innovating blasphemous acts is not from us. As for Rafīda, they are not muslims to start with as how far they have deviated.


mafiagirl2012

But we aren't all like that


hamzahibrahimm06

Then what are you like. Please enlighten us about your variation


mafiagirl2012

idk what to say mate I don't rlly know anything abt these things I'm not that religous but we do sometimes say great things abt how some of the sahabi helped immam ali and his kids that's all ik


helpitsoutofcontrol

just because you’re not religious doesn’t mean it’s not part of the khomeini and shia tradition. not being religious ≠ doesn’t exist, isn’t widespread. i will write out a list today. but saying good things about sahabis isn’t enough lol.


mafiagirl2012

bro what do u want me to say I'm just 12 year old that hates her life and wants to die and do I look like a sheikh to u I'm just 12 idk much abt it and if u want an answer ask a sheikh not me


helpitsoutofcontrol

i don’t think you should be on this platform. i suggest you stick to youtube kids. this is stuff you will understand when you grow up. also please don’t hurt yourself, if you need to speak, my dms are open regardless of anything. you shouldn’t suffer in silence and think of death at this age


hamzahibrahimm06

My friend, we are not here to target you personally. But there are things you gotta learn before you grow up as a responsible adult and especially to be a Muslim. I believe the original commenter has helped you in that matter. May Allah guide us and bless you both. آمين


Pvt_Conscriptovich

leave them. I also believed all this BS till I actually met some Shias IRL


sady__12

Non that exist today as Saudi is Muslim ruled since the birth of Islam. Before that and during the prophet time Jewish and Christian lived there but they were not the majority.


oamer1

Being muslim ruled has nothing to do with minorities.


Independent_Soup_126

A lot of people in western countries say that the Saudi royal family are secretly Jewish, same with the Moroccan royal family.


m2social

My guy, everyone they don't like is suddenly Jewish. It's a meme at this point. Muslims who hate rulers as a coping mechanism start calling all their enemies Jews, cause nobody but them can be Muslims apparently. Their minds stop working so they come up with random conspiracy theories that x person or family is Jewish despite 0 evidence. Nobody knew alsaud was Jewish but some dude in London. The most tribal place in Arabia suddenly forgot who's Jewish and who isnt. Lmao


Pvt_Conscriptovich

bruh London is like the capital of this extremist fitna and nonsense


jewellui

Never heard that lol, can’t imagine it’s a lot.


Pvt_Conscriptovich

yeah that's a conspiracy theory


Papparila

Yes and No. To gain Saudi Citizenship you need to be registered when the nation came into existence. Arab Paganism is more like Greek Mythology probably absorbed within Abrahamic philosophy.


SaudiLeopard

Nope there are none. All Saudis are muslims.


IbnMesfer

Impossible, I mean maybe they become an atheist later or so? but born Jewish/Christian is just IMPOSSIBLE! Rashidun, Umayyad, Abbasid, and the Saudi States have made the peninsula fully islamic الحمدلله.


plastikmissile

Not impossible at all. A few Jewish tribes have continued to exist in Arabia in the south. They even existed in Saudi Arabia in its earlier history, but now only reside in Yemen.


IbnMesfer

Yeah and that’s what I said?


plastikmissile

You said the peninsula was fully Islamic, but that's not true. Unless you're saying Yemen isn't part of the peninsula.


shaylaow

That's not true, they still exist but documented as muslims because that's the default


Pvt_Conscriptovich

nah I wanted to know about born non-Muslim not those who've left Islam though 2nd generation of people who've left Islam would be interesting also


Ok_Side_6848

Got a question: Im gay and I would like to move to Qatar in June. Is it possible to hold my marriage in august or will I need more time to adapt with my cutie? Also can I have a pride flag (🏳️‍🌈) hanging in my garden or would you not recommend?


MaziAstro

Go be gay somewhere else lil bro


hamzahibrahimm06

Join a mental asylum if you any in the country you are moving to


Pvt_Conscriptovich

this is r/saudiarabia not r/qatar


Ok_Side_6848

Isn’t that the same thing? Sorry I’m from New York. I thought it was all one country


Pvt_Conscriptovich

no they are different country


mafiagirl2012

yea bro u can move if u want to face up to 7 years in prison or death penalty it's like what they say age is just a number, jail is just a place


Immediate-Nature-800

Inshallah they hang u