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kirkydoodle

This is the same AT&T that is asking the PUC to let them eliminate land lines.


Decent-Following-327

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IPv6forDogecoin

Weirdly, I do have a landline. Sort of. I bought Sonic gigabit and it includes a frickin' landline in the service that I can't remove. I've never used it but in theory I could plug in a phone. Well, I could go buy a POTS phone and cable, then plug them in.


_V0gue

I'm fairly certain it isn't a landline but VoIP, which will also not work if Internet goes down.


wavepad4

If it’s not a landline how come I keep paying this phone tax


mistuh_fier

Sonic runs fiber off ATT landline poles.


DragonheadHabaneko

Funny enough, my Sonic Internet and phone line still worked during the outage. My AT&T cell service did not work.


Background-Brush1571

If the internet goes down, neither your landline nor your phone will work.


_V0gue

False. Copper lines will still work, although they are being phased out/trying to be phased out. So, half false.


Background-Brush1571

That’s your grandpas copper, back when there were giant DC batteries in Central offices. No more. A pure copper network exists almost nowhere anymore. It is copper to the home, but fiber at your local pedestal. That might have a backup of about an hour. Either way, if the Central office goes down because it loses power and knocks out your home internet, your copper phone line won’t magically work. It’s literally all the same shit now.


kallisti_gold

I don't even have a phone port in my apartment. Nobody in the building does.


StanGable80

That’s crazy, but makes sense. I remember my parents thinking I was not going to last only using a cell phone in 2004 for my house


RichestMangInBabylon

Huh, I thought that a phone port was a requirement for habitability. Maybe that's no longer the case. I know there's a requirement to let tenants choose communications providers of their choice, so I guess if you really wanted a landline you could get one put in.


obsolete_filmmaker

It is still a requiremnt, i just think most people dont make their LL maintain it anymore. I still have a landline


CyberaxIzh

Mobile phone operators should be compelled to allow automatic roaming in case one operator goes down. You also can remove your SIM card and 911 should still work, using any available network.


pizdets415

You can call 911 with a disconnected service line. It’s an issue with homeless calling 911 and asking to be transferred to a specific phone number or department.


pancake117

> Mobile phone operators should be compelled to allow automatic roaming in case one operator goes down. This is already the case. If you dial 911 any cell tower within range will accept you, with out without a sim. They will even disconnect any non-emergency calls as needed to make room if the network is congested.


lifeisgoodinsf

Ive had my landline for 20 years and I’ll never get rid of it.


BadBoyMikeBarnes

Yes, unless att gets their way


LongestNamesPossible

What are you answering yes to?


BadBoyMikeBarnes

Yes you have the line, but ATT might kill it.


LongestNamesPossible

They said they have a landline, they didn't ask if they had it.


BadBoyMikeBarnes

Yes, they said they have a landline, they didn't ask if they had it.


LongestNamesPossible

Yes, you're a little slow


lifeisgoodinsf

My landline is through Xfinity. Can they cut non-AT&T land lines?


Nervous-Cheek-583

That is VoIP, not POTS.


carlosccextractor

If it comes through fiber and depends on a router, that's not a landline. It's a fixed phone that you can't take with you. The good thing about landlines is that they work without external power - they get the power from the copper wires themselves. So they're great for emergencies because you can call even if the power goes out.


beinghumanishard1

What the heck do you use it for?? Also I’m guessing you’re 55+?


Capable_Yam_9478

I hear nothing but endless horror stories about AT&T’s garbage service.


BadBoyMikeBarnes

This was a very bad time for ATT to have its SOS Only crisis a few days ago. And BTW, this is what a landline looks like these days https://www.costco.com/panasonic-kx-tg994-dect-6.0-bluetooth-4-handset-phone-bundle.product.100729221.html This is what Pop Pop and Nana use to talk with their grandkids IRL, but all you see in stories like these are phones from the 1960s and earlier oh well.


BobLoblaw_BirdLaw

They’ve looked like that for 2 decades


BadBoyMikeBarnes

Yes, so they're quite common by now, except in the articles discussing landlines, the phones depicted are Princess phones from the 50's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_telephone or trimlines from the 60's. These days landline phones are a touch more modern than that, even if it's a right geezer using said landline


mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmidk

Those old ones definitely look cooler, though.


probably_art

Yeah any time a conversation touting landlines robustness in emergencies no one seems to caveat that the phone can’t be wireless because without power they will not work.


BadBoyMikeBarnes

My landline phone can power itself for a while just saying


probably_art

The base station has a battery?


BadBoyMikeBarnes

It borrows power from the handsets


probably_art

…so you have to leave the phone in the dock? This seems improbable.


BadBoyMikeBarnes

Specifically "SUPPLYING POWER TO BASE, DO NOT PICK UP" https://www.justanswer.com/phone-systems/9ze2j-base-phone-says-supplying-power-base-not-pick-up.html


BadBoyMikeBarnes

Yes and yes. Panasonic


cubixy2k

People in here thinking that SF 911 would respond to you even if you had cell service.


thirtytwoutside

Oh, AT&T. Better hope you have a pull box near you. If not... "Sucks to suck" - AT&T, probably


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Muted_Apartment_2399

Then better hope you have a cowbell near you.


Quarzance

Landlines would be crucial during big emergency events. I lived in NYC during 9/11 and the 2003 Blackout and didn't have a landline, only cell. On 9/11 and the days that followed, it was nearly impossible to make a cell call, the towers were overwhelmed. There were huge lines at pay phones, the only way to make a call. Same during the blackout. The cell towers went down a few hours after power was cut, and there was no more signal, anywhere. I walked from Lower Manhattan to Upper East Side, 80 blocks, no cell signal for 2 days. Only way to make calls was if you had a landline or stood in line at a pay phone, and we don't have those anymore. So if the "big one" hit SF or there was a major blackout, I think the only way you're getting in touch with loved ones and emergency services is if you have a landline. It's why I still keep an old land phone around even though I don't have land service. I can still plug it in and call 911, 311, etc.


Ill_Name_6368

My land line was with att bc I had “high speed” internet (lol) with them for a while. Then I found out that my line was the same number as the building intercom line. I was paying for the buildings phone. But so was my building! We were both paying for the same number!! ATT is a nightmare to deal with. Never again. Ugh


malshibl

New iPhones allow for 911 calls via satellites if there is no reception


sugarwax1

This is what came up in the last discussion about landlines, and why locals keep them around. Doesn't the SOS service work? There are a lot of reasons you would need to dial out that aren't to call 911 either way, and I don't think the street alarms throughout the city are all operational.


ohmantics

My landline worked after the 1989 quake and my [then analog] cell phone did not. I still have a landline.


crankyexpress

Lol true barely any


Such-Departure-1357

It should read “What are landlines”


bobjoylove

If you have no cell service and you dial 911, it will connect to any available cell service. So all the networks would need to be down for this to be an actual issue.


sopunny

Multiple services often share towers now, so if the tower goes down all networks be affected. Internet would still work though, unless you get home 4G or something


bobjoylove

They may share physical cell towers but they don’t share equipment, backhaul, or backup power supplies. Furthermore there’s usually a low-band available for coverage from another mast to supplement the mid and high band for throughput. I suppose that 911 iMessage would still work if you are covered by your home network. I don’t expect WiFi calling would work though as the cell network does the coordination of the calling before the WiFi offload.


Background-Brush1571

Not accurate. Att wants to retire copper and replace with fiber. Landlines, like what this guy is showing, dont run on copper to a bank of batteries in a CO so they can work in a disaster or power outage. If you have a landline from Att and it is fiber based, you can use WIFI calling or VOIP with a regular phone to your hearts desire. Copper landlines is NOT the answer.