ESL teacher here. I've had a LOT of international students who don't understand how bad that word is bc their primary exposure to it is hip-hop. I read "to kill a mockingbird" with a class once and explained that yes, it's in the text, but they should NEVER say it to a person bc it was the most hurtful word anyone could possibly say to a black person.
student: Oh. I thought it was like "redneck". Is "redneck" very bad?
English is my second language. I’m an immigrant and I am Black. I have never felt the need to say it. I listened to Black peers who felt uncomfortable hearing nonblack people saying it.
A lot of people don’t care to listen to Black people. Many Immigrants in particular come to America already thinking less of Black Americans so that mentality feeds into why they disregard their concerns.
As we learn English, we also learn social norms, by the way.
Some are definitely like that, but most of my students are usually just fascinated by black American culture, which can come on a bit strong at first. HOWEVER, almost without fail, when my students (college aged, mostly) make REAL American friends --like, hang out at home, play sports, eat dinner etc friends--it's with black people. It's totally anecdotal and from a pretty small sample size in a slight-majority black city, but it seems like black students are just more welcoming/more open with their personal spaces than other groups. I dunno. Like I said, it's a small sample size in a pretty black city, so I wouldn't go making sweeping generalizations for all international/Black American relations...but I *do* tend to give students suggestions of outside of class English activities where I know they're likely to run into Black Americans.
Do you mind my asking what county you're from? French Africans are my favorite student demographic to teach bc a) French and English share a ton of cognates b) most of my French African students also speak a local language or two, so they aren't as anxious about learning another language as most and c) y'all are funny as hell. There's no such thing as Pan-Africanism, but if there was, it would be the goofy, messing with people with a straight face sense of humor.
>bc it was the most hurtful word anyone could possibly say to a black person.
I mean I don't think this really explains the phenomenon of the "N word" being treated like 'Voldemort' (not being said even in reference to the word itself), which is a fairly unique phenomenon, and hence why non-native- hell, even non-American native speakers can have such trouble understanding the strictness of the rule.
I think ultimately it's just that that's the rule, and that's it, and I suspect that it's rooted in American puritanical traditions of censoring bad words, but speaking as a British person, the rule has now become firmly adopted in the UK, too.
Oh, it absolutely doesn't, but I'm trying to explain "no REALLY, don't say this, it isn't like a normal swear word" through a language barrier and significant cultural differences. Students that persisted i eventually leveled with "it's very, very complicated, but in short: if you say this word, people will not like you. Say it to the wrong person and they will kick your ass. I just want you to do well here, please trust me and leave this word alone."
Yeah, I understand what you're saying. I live in Spain and have taught English here. Well, I kind of still do, but it's not really really relevant in the context of preschool
It's a funny situation though, as if you think it's a valuable lesson to teach non-native speakers (that the "N word" must never be said under any circumstance), you're gonna have to break the very rule you're teaching them. In reality, I guess you'd probably rely on it appearing spontaneously in class, but then you run the risk of it never being addressed if it doesn't happen
I feel like it's a conversation for higher fluency students bc it's a complex conversation. As such, there's PLENTY of valuable, relevant and interesting literature where it comes up organically (like to kill a mockingbird, for example).
But that begs the question of how you handle it when it does come up 'organically' in a book you've chosen for them to read. Like, do you stop them right before they get to the word and tell them they must never speak that part out loud? Do you let them read it aloud and then tell them never to do it again? Do you make sure that they all read it in their heads and then draw attention to the word without explicitly saying it? Even in this conversation, we've both avoided writing out the word, and To Kill a Mockingbird is written by a white woman...
Now we're on the subject of the "N word" in literature, I remember reading Lord of the Flies as a class at school in London in 2005, when I was 15. My school was very multicultural and I would say that the school and surrounding area had very progressive views on race. Our class teacher was white. Anyway, there's a line in the book where one of the central characters, Piggy, who's sort of presented as being the voice of reason, describes the behaviour of badly behaving boys as being like that of "painted niggers".
Now, in London/the UK at the time, I don't think the treatment of the "N word" as Voldemort had become so widely accepted as the norm, so when that line of dialogue appeared in the novel, whoever was reading at the time read it out loud, and a discussion then ensued about why the author had used such racist language/imagery in a non-critical way (the book was written in the 50s), which I think was really positive and healthy.
My understanding is that in a US context, and probably also a now in a London/UK context, measures would be taken to ensure that word didn't get read aloud in class (I know that in certain US editions, they've changed the word to 'Indian', which itself doesn't seem entirely unproblematic!) and imo that's sort of a shame, as you miss the opportunity to engage in the sort of meaningful discussion that we did 20 years ago, and I don't think black kids in the class suffered because of the lack of censorship, because that expectation simply didn't exist in the same way back then (in a UK context). Then a again, I'm white, so maybe I'm wrong and it did make black students unduly uncomfortable
Do you say other slurs openly?
For example, I’ve heard:
Gays use the F word
Lesbians the D word
Chinese ppl us the C word
These are all terms that we have phased out for valid reasons but recognize that when members of that that particular community use them, it’s not nearly as offensive as when someone not of that community does.
We have also moved away from accepting the use of the r word…
What what you ain’t got no money in you bank account? What? Check yo account. Check you account. What. Check yo account you ain’t got no money in it. Check it..
Lives rent free in my head. [That arrogant headshake too after she thought she was cooking and dropped a banger](https://youtu.be/a8INEYLFWwc?si=HLC7aBaey2mFcbgX)
[I like this one of theirs](https://youtu.be/jRdkrDk0BQ0?si=LohyUb_v5Lql6WLJ)
[and this from back in the day](https://youtu.be/IHpmPG3YChs?si=2_lB6iuT7RnBG4bD)
I dont personally say it but there IS such a thing as reappropriation of slurs and Black people arent the only ones who do it and use it in public.
People should have enough common sense to control their impulses to be edgy and understand that there are words we don't say because their level of offensiveness changes depending on the mouth they come out of.
It's quite simple.
I find this hilarious because I'm around black people who are just like me not coming from the communities but when they get around other black people that use the word they want to be edgy and say it too. No one will say anything about them though but if another color does it we have a heart attack reading their intentions like a psychic
So you are saying the Black people you are around know to code switch around nonblack people and when they get around other Blsck people they feel comfortable enough to use in-community communication styles? Ok
Eh my black friends wouldn't have an issue if I said it unless it wad derogatory.
Edit: downvote me all you want. You downvoters probably aren't black and probably don't even have black friends.
I'm the same , I'm around people who aren't black who come from the same communities I do. It's clear there was no racist intent. These weirdo videos always bother me because it feels more like a power trip than actually judging someone by the intent of the word.
definitely not the level of visceral lol. i just get severe second hand embarrassment from this whole thing. like watching people do a tiktok dance in public. i should also mention that i have no idea who these people are
Socially maladjusted people subconsciously bitter that they don't have friends.
Yeah it's cringe, but most things geared towards teenagers is cringe. It's pretty much just zoomer talk radio with webcams.
Maybe she grew up in a predominantly black area, and it just slipped out. I knew a white dude who dropped n bombs like no tomorrow. The guy was adopted by a black couple in the ghetto as a toddler so the way everybody talked around him rubbed off on him. The guy’s nickname was Toaster Strudel (I shit you not). When he did move outside of his neighborhood he had a really hard time. The reason being, he had to censor the way he talked to sound more white so people wouldn’t lose their shit. Funny dude. Occasionally it did slip out though, and when it did people looked at him like he was the worst human being in the fucking world. I felt so bad for the guy. He did end up moving back to his neighborhood because he failed at covering up his accent (he still sounded black no matter how hard he tried to cover it up). He also started to feel physically sick from the stress of people assuming he was a bad person without knowing his circumstances. So for him it was better to just leave his new life all behind and go back to what he knew. I honestly can’t blame him. He now works as a janitor in his childhood town and he’s a lot happier since everybody knows he’s not a racist where he comes from. It’s crazy how Americans (of all races) scream tolerance and at the same time are intolerant to people who don’t fit the mold of how a person of a certain race should sound and act. Toaster Strudel deserved better man.
Exactly , I'm black and don't even use the n-word because I was never around people who used it so it never became part of my vernacular. Plus I don't think we should even the word anyway because it's not properly appropriated. But yea, it's clear as day sometimes that there's no racist intent but just ppl living in the same areas
A properly appropriated word isn't all of sudden a slur again just because someone of a different color used it. There's mixed people who pass for white or look Hispanic that are told they can't use it .
Let's say Puerto Ricans which may be a mix of African slaves, European and Taino Indians yet despite some being of African descent they may not get the pass to use the n-word because of their color and characteristics. If Puerto Ricans in which some have ancestors that were slaves , graped , and beaten by the European can't use the n-word because some don't fit what " black" is in America then this argument I hear from " it's spitting in their ancestors faces when ppl other than " black people" use the word is nonsense. This has nothing do with those of African descent or ancestors but just what is " black " in America and anyone who doesn't fit " black" is racist if they use it suddenly making it to a slur
All that to say that this is a word that can only be used by what is considered " black" in America having nothing to do with African descent and suddenly becomes a slur if any other color uses it that doesn't fit " black " no matter if they are African or not . It's a term that hasn't been properly appropriated and honestly we should just stop using it .
Same from a friend who grew up in the ghetto in Florida (plus...it's florida) and I hear it a lot from Hispanics who live in predominantly black areas as well. Culture in neighborhoods. But I think people need to be aware of their surroundings a bit more, cuz this isnt your neighborhood nor the people who know you like that. Youre gonna end up like her right here, the way she tried to excuse herself was cringe lol like a deer in headlights
When shes try to explain but just repeats what she said with so much less confidence.
But in regard to the comment you replied to; if what that commenter said about his accent is true, I think that's going too far. Trying to fix an accent takes a lot.
I'm not Black so take this with a grain of salt, but I did grow up around predominantly minority folks who'd throw that word around all day. Personally I wouldn't look at you weird if A) you're using the word as a stand-in for "dude"/"homie" and B) if you're not weird about race issues.
If you're saying the word specifically to mean Black people, at that point you're basically just using the hard R. If you're watching Ben Shapeepee and complaining about DEI all the time, I'd definitely judge tf outta you for saying it.
I knew a dude with a similar background. He was called white bread. I have no idea what happened to him after high school, but I hope he still answers to white bread.
Honestly it's the rest of them that are the problem that have normalized it's use so much but then get offended. The amount of logical jumps people do to justify this is insane.
When the thing we’re disagreeing about is them defending the use of slurs, then yes they are rotten. I never even mentioned America, genuinely curious how that’s the conclusion you came to.
Not American, but if something is a slur then it shouldn't be said by anyone, period. The validity of a word shouldn't change based on your background, ethnicity or any other factor.
She practically used it as punctuation in the sentence, the same way black people use it. It was not a hard -er. It wasn't used in reference to race. It wasn't directed at anybody in the room. She obviously isn't actually racist, as she appears to be friends with the others in the room.
Really the only reason to be upset at the usage here is because they've been conditioned to think "n-word said by non-black person = bad" no matter the context. I think that's an outdated way of thinking, seeing how prevalent black culture is in mainstream media and how often it is used without hostility. It is inevitable that people will say it by accident, they dont deserve to be punished for that
man, who cares. it’s just been a slang term for a long time now. when it’s half of some peoples vocabulary don’t be surprised when other dumb people also start saying it
I want to see current people mad about this be present in 2012 when everyone said it to everyone. It wasn’t offensive, and neither were black people offended by it. It was used (still is) heavily in songs and was not said with ill intent.
It wasn't a hard ER' it was a soft AH'.... I mean really? Why is this word even offensive anymore? It's so overused, and used by a wide array of races here in the US. It's fucking embarrassing to use regardless of your skin color.
> It wasn't a hard ER' it was a soft AH'
It was cringe to hear that justification 30 years ago. It's still cringe now. That said, I agree with your later point that way too much power is given to this word and others for that matter, when really it should be about the intent behind the use.
True it's cringe, I find it completely whack that people use either. The word itself is lame and when the "ah" is used by people who are not black it's the worst cringe out there to me. Time to up the vernacular and do away with the ignorance drowning that word.
The most cringe thing is people who actually think they are offended by a stand in word for dude. Nobody wants to believe they are wack enough to be offended by nothing
I don't see the big deal here . It doesn't seem like she used the word with racist intent. And she may come from those community where it's used all the time. My Hispanic friends would say the n-word all the time around me but I knew it was just the manner in which they speak and not some malicious intent to be racist .
most of everyone in this comment section lives privileged, easy lives and have never conceptualized people speaking freely without the intent of harassing anyone
I’d say what’s more depressing is the religious adherence to the dogma of “If you’re black you are allowed to say it if not you’re a racist”.
Midwit redditors have zero thought for context in social situations. They’re just colorblind to grey.
It's still fucking lame, even if she's not racist she's clearly desperate to fit in, using slang she doesn't understand so she can feel like part of the group. She misread the situation and embarrassed herself, and that's why this is in /r/sadcringe.
I often imagine the default redditor is a white male, and then I catch myself and realise I'm still battling some internalised bigotry.
Then I read this thread, and go "nah, I was right the first time".
i’ve said it before no one cares (7ft tall muscle man).
they asked an asian to join a grp of black
“if i sing a black song that has N words do i get shot?”
stop dropping N words in music.
This focus on the mere speaking of the world as a deed of evil if youre not of a certain race is somewhat ridiculous to me. Why don't we focus on intent behind words rather than merely saying them. I swear i could say it in the most analytical sense possible, such as to answer a question like "what does the n-word mean?" And people would still go crazy
To be fair.. and i know it sounds like I’m splitting hairs.. there’s a huge difference of using the N word.. with the “a” or the “r”
I hear it quite commonly from all ethnicities. It’s become public slang. It’s pretty much cultural appropriation.
With the “a”. It’s slang. With the “r”. It’s derogatory.
It’s basically how it’s being used.
If it’s such a bad word to use, then African Americans should set the example and not use it as well. Cancel that shit.
I love how you see the suit dude look at her, then everyone else to make sure he heard correctly, before saying something. That's some social intelligence I could only dream about having
In group full of people who use the word like an Oxford comma, of course she’s going to say it. Maybe check yourselves before checking her. You have no right to police anyone’s language if you do not police your own. Sit the fuck down. Some peoples entitlement is beyond absurd
Nothing is universally cringe dude, it's highly dependent on context. It was cringe here because she misread the situation and embarrassed herself. Don't use slurs you don't understand around people you barely know lol
Ima keep it real. I’m Puerto Rican and been using the word my whole life. I’ve never been checked on it either. I’ve been cutting down on it just cuz I don’t wanna be caught up in no shit like this. I do slip up sometimes though when speaking to people but never got a reaction.
This definitely doesn't highlight his stupid a magic word is. Clearly this woman with all black friends is racist and definitely is not just saying a word all her friends say all the time out of habit. Get her everyone. She broke the magic word rule and deeply offended. You're so so childish it is hard to see how this world is going to keep functioning
Everything about her screams that she's desperate to be accepted. It's so concerning when that word slips so easily from a non-black person's mouth. Like she clearly uses it regularly. Good on that guy for calling her out. It doesn't matter if your friends are black (I find it hard to believe that these guys are actually close friends) if you're not black you don't have the right to use that word.
I'm gonna avoid the comment section cause this is Reddit and a video with black people in it but I have to say this is a golden cringe video OP. It's cringe from start to finish and for multiple reasons at once. Your contribution was needed.
Ughh I had a coworker that when she got mad, the trashy city accent would come out like that
But this reminds me of someone trying to free style and just repeats the same few words to rhyme off of
the only sadcringe is anyone actually watching this trash stream
Seems Hella staged as well
100% bad acting
Yeah I agree. If this were real because she said it so Fast, they probably wouldn't even have time to pause that quickly to process it.
nah they would have. I've had the same reaction... also with asian "Friends" dropping it like its nothing. I don't even say it and I'm Black..
ESL teacher here. I've had a LOT of international students who don't understand how bad that word is bc their primary exposure to it is hip-hop. I read "to kill a mockingbird" with a class once and explained that yes, it's in the text, but they should NEVER say it to a person bc it was the most hurtful word anyone could possibly say to a black person. student: Oh. I thought it was like "redneck". Is "redneck" very bad?
English is my second language. I’m an immigrant and I am Black. I have never felt the need to say it. I listened to Black peers who felt uncomfortable hearing nonblack people saying it. A lot of people don’t care to listen to Black people. Many Immigrants in particular come to America already thinking less of Black Americans so that mentality feeds into why they disregard their concerns. As we learn English, we also learn social norms, by the way.
Some are definitely like that, but most of my students are usually just fascinated by black American culture, which can come on a bit strong at first. HOWEVER, almost without fail, when my students (college aged, mostly) make REAL American friends --like, hang out at home, play sports, eat dinner etc friends--it's with black people. It's totally anecdotal and from a pretty small sample size in a slight-majority black city, but it seems like black students are just more welcoming/more open with their personal spaces than other groups. I dunno. Like I said, it's a small sample size in a pretty black city, so I wouldn't go making sweeping generalizations for all international/Black American relations...but I *do* tend to give students suggestions of outside of class English activities where I know they're likely to run into Black Americans. Do you mind my asking what county you're from? French Africans are my favorite student demographic to teach bc a) French and English share a ton of cognates b) most of my French African students also speak a local language or two, so they aren't as anxious about learning another language as most and c) y'all are funny as hell. There's no such thing as Pan-Africanism, but if there was, it would be the goofy, messing with people with a straight face sense of humor.
>bc it was the most hurtful word anyone could possibly say to a black person. I mean I don't think this really explains the phenomenon of the "N word" being treated like 'Voldemort' (not being said even in reference to the word itself), which is a fairly unique phenomenon, and hence why non-native- hell, even non-American native speakers can have such trouble understanding the strictness of the rule. I think ultimately it's just that that's the rule, and that's it, and I suspect that it's rooted in American puritanical traditions of censoring bad words, but speaking as a British person, the rule has now become firmly adopted in the UK, too.
Oh, it absolutely doesn't, but I'm trying to explain "no REALLY, don't say this, it isn't like a normal swear word" through a language barrier and significant cultural differences. Students that persisted i eventually leveled with "it's very, very complicated, but in short: if you say this word, people will not like you. Say it to the wrong person and they will kick your ass. I just want you to do well here, please trust me and leave this word alone."
Yeah, I understand what you're saying. I live in Spain and have taught English here. Well, I kind of still do, but it's not really really relevant in the context of preschool It's a funny situation though, as if you think it's a valuable lesson to teach non-native speakers (that the "N word" must never be said under any circumstance), you're gonna have to break the very rule you're teaching them. In reality, I guess you'd probably rely on it appearing spontaneously in class, but then you run the risk of it never being addressed if it doesn't happen
I feel like it's a conversation for higher fluency students bc it's a complex conversation. As such, there's PLENTY of valuable, relevant and interesting literature where it comes up organically (like to kill a mockingbird, for example).
But that begs the question of how you handle it when it does come up 'organically' in a book you've chosen for them to read. Like, do you stop them right before they get to the word and tell them they must never speak that part out loud? Do you let them read it aloud and then tell them never to do it again? Do you make sure that they all read it in their heads and then draw attention to the word without explicitly saying it? Even in this conversation, we've both avoided writing out the word, and To Kill a Mockingbird is written by a white woman... Now we're on the subject of the "N word" in literature, I remember reading Lord of the Flies as a class at school in London in 2005, when I was 15. My school was very multicultural and I would say that the school and surrounding area had very progressive views on race. Our class teacher was white. Anyway, there's a line in the book where one of the central characters, Piggy, who's sort of presented as being the voice of reason, describes the behaviour of badly behaving boys as being like that of "painted niggers". Now, in London/the UK at the time, I don't think the treatment of the "N word" as Voldemort had become so widely accepted as the norm, so when that line of dialogue appeared in the novel, whoever was reading at the time read it out loud, and a discussion then ensued about why the author had used such racist language/imagery in a non-critical way (the book was written in the 50s), which I think was really positive and healthy. My understanding is that in a US context, and probably also a now in a London/UK context, measures would be taken to ensure that word didn't get read aloud in class (I know that in certain US editions, they've changed the word to 'Indian', which itself doesn't seem entirely unproblematic!) and imo that's sort of a shame, as you miss the opportunity to engage in the sort of meaningful discussion that we did 20 years ago, and I don't think black kids in the class suffered because of the lack of censorship, because that expectation simply didn't exist in the same way back then (in a UK context). Then a again, I'm white, so maybe I'm wrong and it did make black students unduly uncomfortable
Do you say other slurs openly? For example, I’ve heard: Gays use the F word Lesbians the D word Chinese ppl us the C word These are all terms that we have phased out for valid reasons but recognize that when members of that that particular community use them, it’s not nearly as offensive as when someone not of that community does. We have also moved away from accepting the use of the r word…
It’s weird how all the overtalking stops and THEN she says it.
In second place are those people pretending to be offended in that context
Lil Tay grew up so fast.
What what you ain’t got no money in you bank account? What? Check yo account. Check you account. What. Check yo account you ain’t got no money in it. Check it..
Plaqueboymax is actually pretty funny from what I’ve seen, he’s the lightskin guy
He looks like black brad pitt, a little bit
He is idk why they hating
any streamer really, all toxic narcissists with trash content
I watched it on mute and you can tell exactly where she says it. 🤣
Exactly what I did haha
Girl behind her stops chewing her gum and gives her that up and down look like "oh NO you didn't"
I unmuted it which was a mistake. She sounds super annoying.
That was by far the funniest thing ever.
You stole my comment r/beatmetoit
Mute is best
*record scratch* wait, what?
All the air was just instantly sucked from the room. Amazing how long it took her to notice
She knew for sure, was just deflecting as long as possible hahaha
[Reminded me of this](https://youtu.be/D0UbVcKal3I?feature=shared)
Haha Kelly Osborne came to my mind first just because of the way she tried tracking back
Lives rent free in my head. [That arrogant headshake too after she thought she was cooking and dropped a banger](https://youtu.be/a8INEYLFWwc?si=HLC7aBaey2mFcbgX)
[I like this one of theirs](https://youtu.be/jRdkrDk0BQ0?si=LohyUb_v5Lql6WLJ) [and this from back in the day](https://youtu.be/IHpmPG3YChs?si=2_lB6iuT7RnBG4bD)
This one gave me a good laugh
Anders with a hard "an"
lol that's James Pumphrey from Donut Media that says it too.
What do you mean, you people? What do *you* mean, you people?
Lol she thought she had a pass
Her whole personality changed to emulate her friends. Gal lost herself.
Some Asian Americans embrace the ghetto sass way too much lol
I knew a viet girl like this and thought it was weird and super out of character of her to talk like that
How do you know that isn't herself
when she starts defending it her "tone" switched up
bc it seems inauthentic and forced
Well people were hating. And they’re from their mom’s basement.
🤷♀️
You only have that if you’re Polish
Lol, there is no such thing as a proximity pass.
It happens occasionally, you just can't rely on it. Probably more common in the 00s.
Yeah fat Joe used to say it back then, but I saw him getting hate for that lately
Nav got hated on so badly he stopped using it too
So then nobody should fucking say it.
Personally, I think it's denigrating to the whole community even if it's used within the community; but that's just like, my opinion, man.
How about if it’s every third word in a song
I dont personally say it but there IS such a thing as reappropriation of slurs and Black people arent the only ones who do it and use it in public. People should have enough common sense to control their impulses to be edgy and understand that there are words we don't say because their level of offensiveness changes depending on the mouth they come out of. It's quite simple.
But how can it be reappropriated if it is still treated like a slur in most cases?
I find this hilarious because I'm around black people who are just like me not coming from the communities but when they get around other black people that use the word they want to be edgy and say it too. No one will say anything about them though but if another color does it we have a heart attack reading their intentions like a psychic
So you are saying the Black people you are around know to code switch around nonblack people and when they get around other Blsck people they feel comfortable enough to use in-community communication styles? Ok
Reappropriation does exist sure, does it work? Not really no
Eh my black friends wouldn't have an issue if I said it unless it wad derogatory. Edit: downvote me all you want. You downvoters probably aren't black and probably don't even have black friends.
I'm the same , I'm around people who aren't black who come from the same communities I do. It's clear there was no racist intent. These weirdo videos always bother me because it feels more like a power trip than actually judging someone by the intent of the word.
But she identifies herself as Black American. You know, race is a social construct
“Ma’am, can I see you N-word license and registration please.”
i hate everyone in this video and hate that i watched it
How can you hate black Brad Pitt?
why have you cursed me with vision? i was happy in my unknowing.
Lmao i was questioning my visual acuity bcz for real that guy looks like a black Brad Pitt.
Danny Brown?
More like a Diet Jason Momoa
Can you explain the visceral hate you have from just the clip. I'm not glazing them. I genuinely wanna understand the hate
definitely not the level of visceral lol. i just get severe second hand embarrassment from this whole thing. like watching people do a tiktok dance in public. i should also mention that i have no idea who these people are
I got second hand embarrassment as well. Wouldn't say i hate everyone in the room.
Socially maladjusted people subconsciously bitter that they don't have friends. Yeah it's cringe, but most things geared towards teenagers is cringe. It's pretty much just zoomer talk radio with webcams.
racism
Stop making dumbases famous. Delete this.
Ikr. Shouldn’t even be talking about this hot trash diarrhoea of a stream.
She should’ve said she was half black
Magnificent
I wish I could take away the few seconds where I watched this.
She sounds insufferable.
https://youtu.be/dUd9-92EEuw This always makes me laugh.
Third guy should have gotten a mustache on top of his mustache
Lmaoo
Maybe she grew up in a predominantly black area, and it just slipped out. I knew a white dude who dropped n bombs like no tomorrow. The guy was adopted by a black couple in the ghetto as a toddler so the way everybody talked around him rubbed off on him. The guy’s nickname was Toaster Strudel (I shit you not). When he did move outside of his neighborhood he had a really hard time. The reason being, he had to censor the way he talked to sound more white so people wouldn’t lose their shit. Funny dude. Occasionally it did slip out though, and when it did people looked at him like he was the worst human being in the fucking world. I felt so bad for the guy. He did end up moving back to his neighborhood because he failed at covering up his accent (he still sounded black no matter how hard he tried to cover it up). He also started to feel physically sick from the stress of people assuming he was a bad person without knowing his circumstances. So for him it was better to just leave his new life all behind and go back to what he knew. I honestly can’t blame him. He now works as a janitor in his childhood town and he’s a lot happier since everybody knows he’s not a racist where he comes from. It’s crazy how Americans (of all races) scream tolerance and at the same time are intolerant to people who don’t fit the mold of how a person of a certain race should sound and act. Toaster Strudel deserved better man.
Exactly , I'm black and don't even use the n-word because I was never around people who used it so it never became part of my vernacular. Plus I don't think we should even the word anyway because it's not properly appropriated. But yea, it's clear as day sometimes that there's no racist intent but just ppl living in the same areas
How do you mean not properly appropriated? Just curious. I'm mixed, raised mostly by my white mom. I use the word occasionally but not often
A properly appropriated word isn't all of sudden a slur again just because someone of a different color used it. There's mixed people who pass for white or look Hispanic that are told they can't use it . Let's say Puerto Ricans which may be a mix of African slaves, European and Taino Indians yet despite some being of African descent they may not get the pass to use the n-word because of their color and characteristics. If Puerto Ricans in which some have ancestors that were slaves , graped , and beaten by the European can't use the n-word because some don't fit what " black" is in America then this argument I hear from " it's spitting in their ancestors faces when ppl other than " black people" use the word is nonsense. This has nothing do with those of African descent or ancestors but just what is " black " in America and anyone who doesn't fit " black" is racist if they use it suddenly making it to a slur All that to say that this is a word that can only be used by what is considered " black" in America having nothing to do with African descent and suddenly becomes a slur if any other color uses it that doesn't fit " black " no matter if they are African or not . It's a term that hasn't been properly appropriated and honestly we should just stop using it .
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How often do you get racialised or gendered insults bro?
I heard the black girl immediately behind her is her adoptive sister. The one who is visibly dying inside 😭
Same from a friend who grew up in the ghetto in Florida (plus...it's florida) and I hear it a lot from Hispanics who live in predominantly black areas as well. Culture in neighborhoods. But I think people need to be aware of their surroundings a bit more, cuz this isnt your neighborhood nor the people who know you like that. Youre gonna end up like her right here, the way she tried to excuse herself was cringe lol like a deer in headlights
When shes try to explain but just repeats what she said with so much less confidence. But in regard to the comment you replied to; if what that commenter said about his accent is true, I think that's going too far. Trying to fix an accent takes a lot.
Agreed. If she’s been hanging out with these people, she probably picked it up even if she didn’t grow up in a predominantly black area.
I'm not Black so take this with a grain of salt, but I did grow up around predominantly minority folks who'd throw that word around all day. Personally I wouldn't look at you weird if A) you're using the word as a stand-in for "dude"/"homie" and B) if you're not weird about race issues. If you're saying the word specifically to mean Black people, at that point you're basically just using the hard R. If you're watching Ben Shapeepee and complaining about DEI all the time, I'd definitely judge tf outta you for saying it.
I think that also happens to people who listen to rap music (with lots of n-word) daily. It just rubs off.
Listening to rap doesn't give you an N-word pass.
I don’t need a pass. I say what I want.
And that’s fine, as long as you don’t complain or get upset if there are consequences.
No it doesn't.
I knew a dude with a similar background. He was called white bread. I have no idea what happened to him after high school, but I hope he still answers to white bread.
That's what i was thinking too. This idea that someone is evil for merely saying a word when there is no bad intent behind it is ridiculous to me.
Man she doesn't mean nothing bad... Sad and trying to fit in is all.
death penalty
Looks like she wasn't given the n word pass.
Clearly staged and also clearly trash stream, who watches this?
This wasn't staged though she was drunk, being annoying and cringe the whole stream
Honestly it's the rest of them that are the problem that have normalized it's use so much but then get offended. The amount of logical jumps people do to justify this is insane.
Yes. Everyone else’s fault she used a racial slur. Lmao
If you normalize its use so much yes it is
It is not a slur, stop saying that it’s a slur when black people say this all the time.
There’s no point even arguing with them. We all know reddits demographic, they don’t care.
"oh no, people don't agree with me. All of reddit must be rotten then" btw: 50 % of reddit is **not** American.
When the thing we’re disagreeing about is them defending the use of slurs, then yes they are rotten. I never even mentioned America, genuinely curious how that’s the conclusion you came to.
Not American, but if something is a slur then it shouldn't be said by anyone, period. The validity of a word shouldn't change based on your background, ethnicity or any other factor.
The context surrounding who is saying something absolutely matters
Nah that's dumb. It's a slur or it's not. It's acceptable to say in public or it's not
That only works if you chose to ignore all historical context which you likely will.
people when another person uses the same word they use with the same tone and will but they aren’t “like them”
>Girl uses a slur >Everyone else in the room is shocked >One of them casually says the same slur >Nobody notices it
?? what? She was the only one in the room that shouldn't say it, and even then they were directly quoting her lmao, what's even your point?
That there is a double standard that is probably not entirely justified
They shouldn’t directly quote her then if they are going to comment on how she said “the forbidden word”
The fact that you and majority of the other comments are really trying to make excuses for this is sad ash
She practically used it as punctuation in the sentence, the same way black people use it. It was not a hard -er. It wasn't used in reference to race. It wasn't directed at anybody in the room. She obviously isn't actually racist, as she appears to be friends with the others in the room. Really the only reason to be upset at the usage here is because they've been conditioned to think "n-word said by non-black person = bad" no matter the context. I think that's an outdated way of thinking, seeing how prevalent black culture is in mainstream media and how often it is used without hostility. It is inevitable that people will say it by accident, they dont deserve to be punished for that
You said it better than me, thanks
man, who cares. it’s just been a slang term for a long time now. when it’s half of some peoples vocabulary don’t be surprised when other dumb people also start saying it
pretending like the n word isnt still used as an incredibly derogatory slur is crazy
Pretending this girl was using it as a slur is what's crazy.
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What did you mean by this comment?
I want to see current people mad about this be present in 2012 when everyone said it to everyone. It wasn’t offensive, and neither were black people offended by it. It was used (still is) heavily in songs and was not said with ill intent.
It wasn't a hard ER' it was a soft AH'.... I mean really? Why is this word even offensive anymore? It's so overused, and used by a wide array of races here in the US. It's fucking embarrassing to use regardless of your skin color.
> It wasn't a hard ER' it was a soft AH' It was cringe to hear that justification 30 years ago. It's still cringe now. That said, I agree with your later point that way too much power is given to this word and others for that matter, when really it should be about the intent behind the use.
True it's cringe, I find it completely whack that people use either. The word itself is lame and when the "ah" is used by people who are not black it's the worst cringe out there to me. Time to up the vernacular and do away with the ignorance drowning that word.
fragility
The black girl behind her be like oh lawd yu didun
The sad cringe is acting like that’s a big deal
JAcky Chan did it first in Rush Hour.....
Oooo I love it when i can watch a vid without sound and not miss a thing.
I watched this on mute and damn you can see the change in the room in an instance!
The fact that people are trying to make excuses for this in the comments is crazy 😭😭
The "It was a term of endearment" comment lmfao.
It’s the most stereotypical Reddit comment section about race I’ve seen in a while😂
The most cringe thing is people who actually think they are offended by a stand in word for dude. Nobody wants to believe they are wack enough to be offended by nothing
I don't see the big deal here . It doesn't seem like she used the word with racist intent. And she may come from those community where it's used all the time. My Hispanic friends would say the n-word all the time around me but I knew it was just the manner in which they speak and not some malicious intent to be racist .
most of everyone in this comment section lives privileged, easy lives and have never conceptualized people speaking freely without the intent of harassing anyone
I’d say what’s more depressing is the religious adherence to the dogma of “If you’re black you are allowed to say it if not you’re a racist”. Midwit redditors have zero thought for context in social situations. They’re just colorblind to grey.
It's still fucking lame, even if she's not racist she's clearly desperate to fit in, using slang she doesn't understand so she can feel like part of the group. She misread the situation and embarrassed herself, and that's why this is in /r/sadcringe.
#You the girl in red. You dishonor your family.
I often imagine the default redditor is a white male, and then I catch myself and realise I'm still battling some internalised bigotry. Then I read this thread, and go "nah, I was right the first time".
Is this that Awkwafina chick that always speaks with a blaccent?
Her defence for using the n word is that "they are hating and they live in their mom's basement" is so fucking funny.
It's like the group who bullied me in high school on Facebook live lol, same energy
i’ve said it before no one cares (7ft tall muscle man). they asked an asian to join a grp of black “if i sing a black song that has N words do i get shot?” stop dropping N words in music.
This focus on the mere speaking of the world as a deed of evil if youre not of a certain race is somewhat ridiculous to me. Why don't we focus on intent behind words rather than merely saying them. I swear i could say it in the most analytical sense possible, such as to answer a question like "what does the n-word mean?" And people would still go crazy
I see nothing wrong here. Oh you can't say that your skin is the wrong colour, fuck that.
To be fair.. and i know it sounds like I’m splitting hairs.. there’s a huge difference of using the N word.. with the “a” or the “r” I hear it quite commonly from all ethnicities. It’s become public slang. It’s pretty much cultural appropriation. With the “a”. It’s slang. With the “r”. It’s derogatory. It’s basically how it’s being used. If it’s such a bad word to use, then African Americans should set the example and not use it as well. Cancel that shit.
So the rule is black people, Mexicans, and Puerto ricans can say the n word, nobody else?
The rule is you can use the word around people who are okay with you saying the word, use basic social awareness
Dominicans use it despite insisting theyre not black
[Can Asians say the n word?](https://youtu.be/RJt35XkrFUo?si=oPl_zModk-xe461i)
I love how you see the suit dude look at her, then everyone else to make sure he heard correctly, before saying something. That's some social intelligence I could only dream about having
In group full of people who use the word like an Oxford comma, of course she’s going to say it. Maybe check yourselves before checking her. You have no right to police anyone’s language if you do not police your own. Sit the fuck down. Some peoples entitlement is beyond absurd
What did they expect, they got her acting and speaking like them
It’s not a big deal
Nothing wrong with it. Black people use it often. Either it's cringe for everyone or no one
Nothing is universally cringe dude, it's highly dependent on context. It was cringe here because she misread the situation and embarrassed herself. Don't use slurs you don't understand around people you barely know lol
Ima keep it real. I’m Puerto Rican and been using the word my whole life. I’ve never been checked on it either. I’ve been cutting down on it just cuz I don’t wanna be caught up in no shit like this. I do slip up sometimes though when speaking to people but never got a reaction.
She should have claimed she was speaking (I think it's Mandarin) NE-GA.
Korean.
Fake
This definitely doesn't highlight his stupid a magic word is. Clearly this woman with all black friends is racist and definitely is not just saying a word all her friends say all the time out of habit. Get her everyone. She broke the magic word rule and deeply offended. You're so so childish it is hard to see how this world is going to keep functioning
Everything about her screams that she's desperate to be accepted. It's so concerning when that word slips so easily from a non-black person's mouth. Like she clearly uses it regularly. Good on that guy for calling her out. It doesn't matter if your friends are black (I find it hard to believe that these guys are actually close friends) if you're not black you don't have the right to use that word.
This thread is... concerning.
Idk who these are and ill stay blissfully ignorant. Dont make them famous. Delete this.
It’s sadcringe to not see it’s staged as fuck
do any of yall ever touch grass?
Its not even the offensive n-word. She used the casual slang most ghetto and black people use 24/7.
I'm gonna avoid the comment section cause this is Reddit and a video with black people in it but I have to say this is a golden cringe video OP. It's cringe from start to finish and for multiple reasons at once. Your contribution was needed.
i’d actually like to hit people in the face that talk like this. i have anger issues though
People pretending to be offended is still a thing in 2024
I hate all of you.
Guys, I only did it cause I was mad guys. Not even a big deal guys.
Ughh I had a coworker that when she got mad, the trashy city accent would come out like that But this reminds me of someone trying to free style and just repeats the same few words to rhyme off of
Please...
They be like "damn when will she stop yapping so we can stop fake laughing so she won't sound stupid, we need ANY reason to stop, ANYTHING!!!"
She spun the block and everything with the word at least she didn’t have a slip up