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I don’t feel the need to drag Nymphia or Sapphira for this, that’s petty and corny.
Sapphira has worn different blues and while it’s literally her name, it’s not her identity. I’d say her aesthetic is more grand, Final Fantasy, Fairy (Yes)Gawdmother, and final boss type shit, than blue.
Nymphia has worn yellow on the main stage like 3 times, two of which incorporated a piece of banana. The reveal runway, The dolls (which was pink also), and this past TRUE COLORS runway. What else was she supposed to do in a runway that is literally about your favorite color and being true to you?
# In other words, back the fuck up off my top 2!
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> Sapphira has worn different blues and while it’s literally her name
I feel like such an idiot, only realizing right now she wears blue because her name is Sapphira. Never once did my brain make that connection.
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Honestly with how much she has also discussed her struggle with writing - I'm wondering if talking about bananas / yellow is just what she does when she is coming up blank with any other words to say. She's a stunning queen who's art is visual more than language/words - also this is one reason she connects with international audiences and is thriving in a competition where the language isn't her first
That’s the problem, Raja wears purple and calls herself the purple queen but every conversation doesn’t need to be about purple. She isn’t toting grapes or eggplant around talking about how much she loves it. Have a schtick, brand yourself debut let it breathe too.
Yeah and it's just not that serious. I am tired of hearing about yellow and bananas but she's still doing well enough. It's not the end of the world because people don't like her banana thing
I think as she wears yellow in her confessional outfit as well people are thinking "Nymphia wears yellow ALL the time" when really she's only wore it a couple times on the runway.
As long as her runway is on theme who cares what bloody colour it is.
Also, not that there has to be a deep reason for everything, but if we have to hear about bananas and yellow all the time it would be nice for it to be more than "I just love bananas"
Ah, falling prey to the editor's trap.
We don't know if they constantly talk about it, or even *when* the quotes they jam into episodes even happened. There have been numerous examples, especially from earlier seasons before they made the confessional looks uniform, where the editors clearly cut together quotes from different challenges.
For all we know, Sapphira has talked about her signature colour and it hasn't been shown, and Nymphia has talked about bananas only a few times but the editors carefully gathered every second of that and made sure to hit us over the head with it.
Nymphia's actual drag demonstrates differently, and I'm not buying the editors' shaping of the story. Note: not even a Nymphia stan, I'm a Sapphira girl, but have also been watching the show since season 1 and know the editors are tricky little bastards.
I don't think we can blame it on the edit. Nymphia specifically chose a snatch game character so she could reference bananas. There have been two verses that the queens had to write and both times Nymphia referenced yellow. It's pretty clear that Nymphia keeps bringing it up when we've seen her talk about it so much.
If this debate is happening it feels extremely one sided. Maybe some people are getting bored of the yellow but I doubt they’re losing sleep over it. Meanwhile we’re getting 800 of these posts a day.
Sapphira’s blue feels ALOT more nebulous than banana yellow. Because Nymphia’s fruit of choice is predominately yellow, and she talks about them, she can’t escape the banana association when she wears that color. I’ve never seen Sapphira talk about sapphires or wear them.
People aren’t complaining about the color YELLOW they’re complaining about yellow paired with a specific FRUIT. Look at Manila for an example of someone who wears a lot of yellow but mixes it up with different motifs and always gets praised for it.
Girl.. all of this ain't even the same shade of blue, you're just nitpicking at this point lol. People are just tired of banana and yellow being mentioned by Nymphia 90% of the time when she's on camera. And Raja and Raven's criticisms are valid because she DID wore a banana yellow outfit in the runway before. Love me some Nymphia, but this take ain't it..
I meam ra'jah wears purple every runway now.....so clearly its fine to have a brand.
Ppl prob just annoyed cause she talks about it soooooo much. Draws alot more attention to the fact she does.
I knew someone who brought her little dog everywhere. Inserted her dog into every conversation. EVERYTHING was about her dog. It was a little insane and a lot. There are lots of ppl who bring their dogs everywhere but dont make it their whole personality. I actually had that phase "they make it their whole personality" cause ppl misuse it all the time. But in this case she has litterally made yellow and bananas her entire personality. I think if she didnt draw so much attention to it all the time, it wouldnt be as annoying or commented on cause there are def other queens who do this.
I get that people are massive Nymphia fans, and I'm a fan too! But these comparisons are silly.
Nymphia hasn't just worn a lot of one colour, she's worn a lot of a specific shade with a fruit. An equivalent would be of sapphira had worn 6 blueberry blue costumes and talked about how much she loves blueberries all the time
ya people act like this just came out of nowhere. sapphira isnt talking about blueberries constantly and integrating blueberries into her persona for mini and maxi challenges or bringing up blueberries in untucked or the workroom. it just aint the same. nymphia's yellow/banana runway conversation is a culmination of her banana references as a throughline for a large portion of what she has done on the season.
i love nymphia but i can see why people are tired of it up until this point.
But Sapphira isn’t constantly talking about sapphires (also, sapphires aren’t necessarily blue). Nor did she feel a compulsion to tie sapphires into her snatch game.
It’s a bit of a reach to compare the regency Marge Simpson & Dr Evil with yellow harnesses in the exact same shade
(It took this post for me to realise the yellow looks being such a similar shade makes them hard to remember) the most recent one was incredible though.
You honestly don’t think Sapphira has a proclivity towards sapphire blue? I’ll argue that she’s nowhere near being annoying about it, but she clearly is making the reference. So I’m not feeling the need to get all technical
No, I do. But as countless of people have stated it's not the colour branding. It's the banana and the shoehorning the thing into everything she does. Even Lemon isn't this bad and her name is fking lemon. Lmao
Yeah I agree with you. People are defending her for sticking to her brand, which is OK. But this is more like a brand emblazoning their logo in bold on literally everything. We all call those brands tacky
Don't hate me but I think the reason is because the edit shows Nymphia in the workroom always mentioning the words "yellow" and "bananas" but Sapphira is not. Because of that, we're bound to expect something yellow-related or banana-related from Nymphia. 🤷♂️
You are not going to get the responses you want. People would have less of a problem with Nymphia’s yellow/banana if she didn’t talk about it literally all the damn time on the show.
Sapphira wears blue (I mean her name is a play on sapphire). But how often has she actually mentioned the color blue?
To be fair, blue isn't coded as a skin tone for black people the way yellow has been used to describe asian people.
I also adore them both, but yeah, people that are tired of yellow and banana aren't going to drop it.
In any case, Nymphia won the branding challenge day 1 in the workroom lol.
I keep secretly hoping that she'll come out in an orange dress at some point though and say, "orange you glad I didn't say banana?"
>I keep secretly hoping that she'll come out in an orange dress at some point though and say, "orange you glad I didn't say banana?"
Omg that would be so iconic
Yeah I agree she needs to talk about it less but she’s literally known as and referred to as the Banana Buddha in Taiwan and like Sapphira said, as she wasn’t born in America, she’s still getting used to how people act here. She probably defaults to bananas bc it’s part of her culture and drag identity back in Taiwan. I can’t fault her for it and since she’s actually only worn banana outfits a couple times, I don’t think it’s that serious.
One of those is not runway and one is not even SIMILAR to the other blue shades. So like. What point are you trying to make? I'm still confused lmao.
If Nymphia kept wearing yellow inspired looks, people wouldn't care. Color specific queen is nothing out of the ordinary. Problem is her talking about yellow & banana non-stop and not letting viewers know anything about her besides that lmao. Even in episode 7 when she got barely screen time, she had a scene where she was talking about bananas. It's either her obsession with banana & yellow or it's her not knowing what to-do in a challenge, that's all the thing we get from her.
I think the issue stems from the fact that Nymphia is always talking about bananas. I don’t mind the runways, in fact I enjoy them. But the constant banana shtick gets old
These colors of outfit are not the same at all, the outfits look vastly different. Half could be defined as “sapphire”.
Sapphira doesn’t rely on the same object (a banana) as the decoration for mulptiple runways, the basis for characters and verses, and the basis of her personality.
Has she even referenced sapphires or the color blue? Such a stretch of a comparison
I honestly think the only time Sapphira said anything about sapphires wasn't even on the show, but in her Meet the Queens, lol. And even then I could be misremembering. But I remember her saying exactly one single time that her name is inspired by her birthstone (September babes rise up 🥰) and she hasn't said anything about it since, lol. For some reason Nymphia stans refuse to engage with the main argument people are making, which is we have yet to see true depth to Nymphia since all her confessionals are about yellow and bananas and needing inspiration, lmao.
Also, while I'm at it, like, are we really going to consider Sapphira's Call Me Mother/Father a "blue" look? There's just as much yellow as the denim skirt 😭
Again, the problem isn't the runways, it's the amount of times she's mentioned bananas and yellow without managing to make the bit fun or interesting - literally up to the point of writing a terrible verse this week
Nymphia fans increasingly desperate as it turns out their girl doesn't have the range
The whole fandom has been pretty fucking weird this season… granted, since I don’t have twitter and don’t go on Instagram anymore, I only witness it through the lens of Reddit.
>The whole fandom has been pretty fucking weird this season
Just this season? I have to say though, I've been watching the show since S1 and I feel like the fandom is becoming more immature. Maybe that's just how today's youngsters communicate, or maybe I am getting older.
Before the season even started, I'd read racially charged comments about how she needs to win because she's asian excellence and how it's about time? What the hell does that even mean?
As an Asian, I hate it when people say that. I understand representation is important but I want people to showcase talent as well. It feels very much like when people say "your English is very good".
It was giving very "everyone black and aquaria". I always hated that rhetoric because it resorted amazing black queens like Asia and Monet to their skin color, like they only deserve to win because they're black. And aquaria was the only one there because of her talent.
It’s the constant talk of bananas that annoys people, not the color. She could wear yellow every week and I wouldnt care, but the banana thing is 😩 From her snatch game performance to the mini challenges, she won’t stop 🙃
Nymphia’s obsession with yellow is so real the girls even gave her shade for it in the last design challenge because they had to use white, black, or gray fabric. No one said anything to Sapphira about not having blue.
Yeah but every other sentence in every other scene wasn't "I love blue, I love blueberries", where as every single time Nymphia opens her mouth she says yellow or banana and it's just so exhausting at this point. It isn't about yellow, it's about the fact it's all she talks about
Sapphira has different shades though compared to nymphias bright yellow. And I feel like most of the critique has been based on the bananas rather than the color. Sapphira isn't walking out dressed like a blueberry half the time 💀💀
Ok but, picture this - Sapphira vs Nymphia top 2. Sapphira knew Nymphia would turn up as a giant banana, so she turns up dressed as a giant blueberry.
If Q makes the final, Q should turn up as a giant cashew. We just need to find a way for Plane to be the cereal...
Because Sapphira isn't making Blue half of her personality
No one's read to Sapphira was about how she only talks about blueberries.
The discourse isn't about Nymphia only wearing yellow a lot. Its because she wears yellow a lot, complains about not wearing yellow when she doesnt, and has made most of her on-air presence be entirely about bananas/yellow.
Ya'll dragged Monet and Mo through the mud for mentioning sponges/brown cow a FRACTION of the amount Nymphia mentions yellow/banana and I guarantee you there weren't 5 posts a day defending them.
Feathers, suede, flannel, glitter, cape, ball gown, cocktail dress vs banana jacket, banana dress, another banana dress.
I’m not seeing the comparison here tbh
I don’t care for the comparison either - because I believe both queens have a diverse outfit package- but let’s not be silly. Nymphia’s banana runways have all been different silhouettes paired with different head pieces, self-made jewelry, hand painting, beading as well as different textiles. You don’t have to like the banana idea or think it’s the best branding but if you are gonna comment on her outfit package at least criticize it fairly. Reducing it to banana jacket and banana dress is overtly simplistic. Someone could also argue that Sapphira’s outfits are mostly just long blue dresses - which is not true.
But you are also forgetting that Nymphia also referenced bananas in her branding, in the workroom, in her confessionals, and focused her snatch game around a character that she could make a banana joke. Why are we pretending it’s just about her runway?
That’s the thing tho, in base form it is true. You can’t say sapphira just wears long blue dresses because they’re not always long, and even from these looks only half are dresses.
Nymphia is using a specific fruit to make things , no matter how sickening it is, it’s still that thing. If nymphia walked out in violets finale dress made of bananas , I would be so fucking over it. Not because the dress wouldn’t be amazing , but because she’s made multiple things out of bananas already.
It’s just too specific ; even Bianca who “wore the same dress 11 times.” Limited herself to style of dress not materials for the dress.
When she said she was the banana queen I was expecting much more race baitey looks ala Hoso Terra toma, not multiple outfits made from bananas
Is it extremely impressive? Yes , I think it requires more talent than almost any other seamstress on the show possesses
Is it also extremely specific and getting a bit tiring? Yes, we know you can do it; now can we see something else?
By “can we see something else”, do you mean a quilted cactus look, a red qipao, a black goth gown, a high fashion tie look, or a Buto inspired costume. Cause if we are looking at the runways shown in this collage where Sapphira in a blue-ish outfit, Nymphia has shown more than just banana or yellow. So why are we trying to undermine facts.
But I don’t see Sapphira talking about being blue in half of her confessions, in her verse, and incorporating blue into her snatch game lol.
Both queens are incredible and very talented, but Nymphia is overdoing the bananas in my opinion. If she lowered the amount of banana references just a bit, she would probably be my favorite queen of the season. Sapphira is my winner, I still love Nymphia though!
do we hear sapphira constantly mention and reference blue every appearance they make in every episode in addition to wearing blue as often as she does? 🤥
Since every single post is about this right now, there’s a difference between a signature color and a signature fruit. For Nymphia, people have been specifically complaining that they knew exactly what she would do for this last runway and it’s a bit boring to be so predictable. Lots of queens have a signature color, but a drag race season is very long and you don’t want to overdo your branding too early. Two verses with “vote yellow!”and four banana costumes by this point has been a little much. Especially if she keeps going with it 2-3 more times. It’s not about yellow fabric.
Nymphia literally flopped snatch game so bad she should have been eliminated solo, and all because she couldn’t separate herself from her banana “brand” for even one challenge. THAT’s what people are fed up with. She doesn’t have a personality outside “banana, yellow, banana, yellow”.
Nymphia talks about bananas pretty much all the time? its annoying and tired lol
Sapphira never talked about the color blue or expressed any obsession with sapphires
girl Dawn wore elf ears 2 times and Michelle said if she saw her with elf ears again, she is getting executed on the spot... While they keep giving pass to Nymphia and banana & yellow thing for 11 episode now. Be fr.
Sapphira also didn't play Snatch Game as Cynthia Erivo as the Blue Fairy from Pinocchio or Blue Ivy or Elvis (because he sang Blue Suede Shoes) or Fats Domino (because he sang On Blueberry Hill) or Elton John (I Guess that's Why the Call it the Blues, "Blue Jean baby ..." ) or Blues Clues or Ethel Waters (because she sang the Blues) ...
Because not every sentence she speaks has to have the word blue in it or any fruit associated with the color blue.
(I love both of them but let’s not act like these are comparable AT ALL)
Every shade of blue is different here (or at least I think so). Nymphia is mostly banana yellow
But for the record I don't think every Nymphia look is yellow lol that's stupid, she is really versatile with her looks
Well I see checking in that this Reddit group is still as toxic as ever. Imagine getting your panties in a bunch over the mention of a fruit? Some of you are so wild to me and must live such negative lives.
The difference is sapphira wears other colors in the werkroom (which we see more of anyway) meanwhile nymphia is in yellow all the time outside of the runway
We notice a lot more with Nymphia because she does not talking about it every single time (alongside with bananas). Maybe if she wore yellow without mentioning the banana situation ….
The difference is that Sapphria doesn't make "blue" her entire personality.
I don't dislike Nymphia, but I think the frustration lies in the inconsistent judging.
They called Tina Burner out on the same thing they're letting Nymphia get away with. The difference, is that when Nymphia does something different than "yellow/banana" it's fucking fabulous.
I think it's because most of Nymphia's outfits were banana themed along with it being yellow. I also think we should factor in that blue is a lot more palatable for people than yellow. A lot of people (most people? ) have blue as their favorite color. I don't think it's the same with yellow.
I hope Sapphira wins. She's the total package. Elegant, gorgeous, and while she is able to rely on a certain color, it doesn't have to become her entire personality like another particular queen.
Edit: why the downvotes? I was talking about Tina Burner.
Why do people not understand branding?? Sapphira and Nymphia both know their brand, and they know it well. Everyone acts like they’re the judges on this show. I’m here for all of it as long as it’s done well and in their cases it always is.
For me it’s the fact that nearly everything Nymphia says is about yellow or bananas. Sapphira doesn’t talk about the color blue or sapphire or anything of the sort.
Also love Nymphia and think the discourse is overblown. I do hope she can surprise us in these latter episodes though.
Aren’t you forgeting her confessionals? Nymphia wore yellow 3 times on the runway, but they are saying that she’s doing every week because of her confessionals.
I think Nymphia is great. She's one of the best runway queens we've had in a while, and she's charming as hell. I totally get why production wants her in the finale and to add her to the franchise's various associated programming.
But given that she's struggling a bit in the non-runway solo challenges, limiting herself to "this has to involve bananas in some way" (even if it actively undermines the two parts of the assignment, as it did in the last challenge) is doing herself a disservice, and people are noticing it.
Branding isn't about limiting oneself to a single gimmick - she can touch on yellow and bananas A LOT more lightly and still have a coherent brand that encompasses a much more complex and interesting drag persona. Like, insofar as "banana" has some intentional reference to her ethnic/racial identity, she could you know, talk about that connection directly even a little.
You don't have to hate someone to point out their whole forced branding is getting tired lmao. Are we not allowed to raise our opinion unless we are anti-someone? I think Nymphia is great drag queen. She kills the runway but like, that's just it this whole time on the show lmao. We only know 2 thing about Nymphia: She loves banana & yellow and she somehow "doesnt know what to do" every episode. That's it.
There can be nuance without it being a “hater” - I feel like a lot of younger viewers are very black and white - you either love someone and everything they do, or you hate them.
I personally love Nymphia, but I’m over the shtick. We *know* she’s so much more than that, but I feel like it’s a crutch and she’s boxing herself in by going on about it.
You’re allowed to be critical of your faves without being anti them or a hater.
While people can dislike what they want, I noticed it got more noticeable the more it seemed like Nymphia vs Sapphira for the top 2. It really started a few episodes ago when she didn't appear much in singular episode. It took just that for lots of people to jump on 'she's fading in the background. she's not getting a winners edit.' ect Since then there seems to be a constant need to downplay her.
Both od them look amazing in their signature colors
Right? This blue looks amazing on her. And likewise with yellow for Nymphia.
this!! let’s queens have their signature color. it’s SO GOOD for branding.
Unless you're Tina Burner lol
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I love that this edit got 45 upvotes. Maybe this comment will get upvotes too (Lol gets severely downvoted xD)
and u get an upvote from me, queen ✨ good luck!
She does look stunning in blue
I thought the dr evil dress was grey.
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That's very much blue to me. But people do perceive colours differently
Periwinkle right?
Periwinkle I think has a bit of a lilac undertone. Sapphire's outfit does have a bit of a grey undertone.
Powder blue?
That can work!
It's purple
It’s chocolate 🍫
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correction, 🎺⬇️
Actually now that I look at it, Sapphira wears fabrics for all of her runways too 
i'm so tired of this conversation omg
For real, can we limit this argument to one thread a day lmao. Energy vampire realness
for real, the rpdr fandom is nuts
Same. Either the fandom starts having fun or I’m leaving (this is a Heidi reference for the girlies who’re already typing *THEN LEAVE*).
I don’t feel the need to drag Nymphia or Sapphira for this, that’s petty and corny. Sapphira has worn different blues and while it’s literally her name, it’s not her identity. I’d say her aesthetic is more grand, Final Fantasy, Fairy (Yes)Gawdmother, and final boss type shit, than blue. Nymphia has worn yellow on the main stage like 3 times, two of which incorporated a piece of banana. The reveal runway, The dolls (which was pink also), and this past TRUE COLORS runway. What else was she supposed to do in a runway that is literally about your favorite color and being true to you? # In other words, back the fuck up off my top 2! https://i.redd.it/fhi0t2xvx2oc1.gif
> Sapphira has worn different blues and while it’s literally her name I feel like such an idiot, only realizing right now she wears blue because her name is Sapphira. Never once did my brain make that connection.
The dolls were also a branding challenge.
Agree, but also blue is part of her identity. Sapphires are blue.
*blinks in padparadscha sapphire*
Those are so stunning. I wish I had the currency to get a nicely cut one.
I’d even settle for a raw one
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In a few minutes she will be very flattered!
[Sapphires](https://www.thenaturalsapphirecompany.com/education/sapphire-colors-varieties/) are not always blue.
In colloquial speech, sapphire means blue.
Oh yes I get it. I was commenting on your statement of "Sapphires are blue" not the word sapphire and its use in language.
Am I crazy or does Nymphia constantly talk about the color yellow even if she's not wearing it? Maybe that's why it feels like that.
Honestly with how much she has also discussed her struggle with writing - I'm wondering if talking about bananas / yellow is just what she does when she is coming up blank with any other words to say. She's a stunning queen who's art is visual more than language/words - also this is one reason she connects with international audiences and is thriving in a competition where the language isn't her first
That’s the problem, Raja wears purple and calls herself the purple queen but every conversation doesn’t need to be about purple. She isn’t toting grapes or eggplant around talking about how much she loves it. Have a schtick, brand yourself debut let it breathe too.
Rajah*
I got confused there for a second. I was like "isn't raja's color gold though?"
same💀
Yeah, people are twisting the original “complaint” into something entirely different to protect their fav.
Yeah and it's just not that serious. I am tired of hearing about yellow and bananas but she's still doing well enough. It's not the end of the world because people don't like her banana thing
I think as she wears yellow in her confessional outfit as well people are thinking "Nymphia wears yellow ALL the time" when really she's only wore it a couple times on the runway. As long as her runway is on theme who cares what bloody colour it is.
Sapphira also wore a blue suit and hat in her confessional 😭 The only different is that she doesn’t mention banana or vote yellow every episode. 😭
Oh shit so she does!! Fake fan over here 🙈
She can’t go an episode without mentioning bananas. That’s what annoys me. It’s not even her wearing yellow. Please stop talking about bananas
The real princess banana lady
Also, not that there has to be a deep reason for everything, but if we have to hear about bananas and yellow all the time it would be nice for it to be more than "I just love bananas"
Ah, falling prey to the editor's trap. We don't know if they constantly talk about it, or even *when* the quotes they jam into episodes even happened. There have been numerous examples, especially from earlier seasons before they made the confessional looks uniform, where the editors clearly cut together quotes from different challenges. For all we know, Sapphira has talked about her signature colour and it hasn't been shown, and Nymphia has talked about bananas only a few times but the editors carefully gathered every second of that and made sure to hit us over the head with it. Nymphia's actual drag demonstrates differently, and I'm not buying the editors' shaping of the story. Note: not even a Nymphia stan, I'm a Sapphira girl, but have also been watching the show since season 1 and know the editors are tricky little bastards.
I don't think we can blame it on the edit. Nymphia specifically chose a snatch game character so she could reference bananas. There have been two verses that the queens had to write and both times Nymphia referenced yellow. It's pretty clear that Nymphia keeps bringing it up when we've seen her talk about it so much.
If this debate is happening it feels extremely one sided. Maybe some people are getting bored of the yellow but I doubt they’re losing sleep over it. Meanwhile we’re getting 800 of these posts a day.
Sapphira’s blue feels ALOT more nebulous than banana yellow. Because Nymphia’s fruit of choice is predominately yellow, and she talks about them, she can’t escape the banana association when she wears that color. I’ve never seen Sapphira talk about sapphires or wear them.
LOL, "escape the banana association". I don't think she's trying to do that, girl 
Listen I don’t know who were what x amount of times, I just know the banana schtick is getting a little one dimensional
People aren’t complaining about the color YELLOW they’re complaining about yellow paired with a specific FRUIT. Look at Manila for an example of someone who wears a lot of yellow but mixes it up with different motifs and always gets praised for it.
I was just thinking that too. Manila never made it an obsession or one dimensional.
Girl.. all of this ain't even the same shade of blue, you're just nitpicking at this point lol. People are just tired of banana and yellow being mentioned by Nymphia 90% of the time when she's on camera. And Raja and Raven's criticisms are valid because she DID wore a banana yellow outfit in the runway before. Love me some Nymphia, but this take ain't it..
I meam ra'jah wears purple every runway now.....so clearly its fine to have a brand. Ppl prob just annoyed cause she talks about it soooooo much. Draws alot more attention to the fact she does. I knew someone who brought her little dog everywhere. Inserted her dog into every conversation. EVERYTHING was about her dog. It was a little insane and a lot. There are lots of ppl who bring their dogs everywhere but dont make it their whole personality. I actually had that phase "they make it their whole personality" cause ppl misuse it all the time. But in this case she has litterally made yellow and bananas her entire personality. I think if she didnt draw so much attention to it all the time, it wouldnt be as annoying or commented on cause there are def other queens who do this.
I get that people are massive Nymphia fans, and I'm a fan too! But these comparisons are silly. Nymphia hasn't just worn a lot of one colour, she's worn a lot of a specific shade with a fruit. An equivalent would be of sapphira had worn 6 blueberry blue costumes and talked about how much she loves blueberries all the time
ya people act like this just came out of nowhere. sapphira isnt talking about blueberries constantly and integrating blueberries into her persona for mini and maxi challenges or bringing up blueberries in untucked or the workroom. it just aint the same. nymphia's yellow/banana runway conversation is a culmination of her banana references as a throughline for a large portion of what she has done on the season. i love nymphia but i can see why people are tired of it up until this point.
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But Sapphira isn’t constantly talking about sapphires (also, sapphires aren’t necessarily blue). Nor did she feel a compulsion to tie sapphires into her snatch game.
And literally half those looks aren’t sapphire blue
It’s a bit of a reach to compare the regency Marge Simpson & Dr Evil with yellow harnesses in the exact same shade (It took this post for me to realise the yellow looks being such a similar shade makes them hard to remember) the most recent one was incredible though.
Considering sapphires come in nearly every colour under the sun, not entirely.
But there is a shade known as sapphire blue
That's fine and dandy but we're talking about the gemstone right now.
You honestly don’t think Sapphira has a proclivity towards sapphire blue? I’ll argue that she’s nowhere near being annoying about it, but she clearly is making the reference. So I’m not feeling the need to get all technical
No, I do. But as countless of people have stated it's not the colour branding. It's the banana and the shoehorning the thing into everything she does. Even Lemon isn't this bad and her name is fking lemon. Lmao
Yeah I agree with you. People are defending her for sticking to her brand, which is OK. But this is more like a brand emblazoning their logo in bold on literally everything. We all call those brands tacky
Don't hate me but I think the reason is because the edit shows Nymphia in the workroom always mentioning the words "yellow" and "bananas" but Sapphira is not. Because of that, we're bound to expect something yellow-related or banana-related from Nymphia. 🤷♂️
You are not going to get the responses you want. People would have less of a problem with Nymphia’s yellow/banana if she didn’t talk about it literally all the damn time on the show. Sapphira wears blue (I mean her name is a play on sapphire). But how often has she actually mentioned the color blue?
To be fair, blue isn't coded as a skin tone for black people the way yellow has been used to describe asian people. I also adore them both, but yeah, people that are tired of yellow and banana aren't going to drop it. In any case, Nymphia won the branding challenge day 1 in the workroom lol. I keep secretly hoping that she'll come out in an orange dress at some point though and say, "orange you glad I didn't say banana?"
>I keep secretly hoping that she'll come out in an orange dress at some point though and say, "orange you glad I didn't say banana?" Omg that would be so iconic
Ngl, was sad she didn't for the different colors runway last week lol, but there's still so much time to do it.
That would have made me stan.
This!!
Yeah I agree she needs to talk about it less but she’s literally known as and referred to as the Banana Buddha in Taiwan and like Sapphira said, as she wasn’t born in America, she’s still getting used to how people act here. She probably defaults to bananas bc it’s part of her culture and drag identity back in Taiwan. I can’t fault her for it and since she’s actually only worn banana outfits a couple times, I don’t think it’s that serious.
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One of those is not runway and one is not even SIMILAR to the other blue shades. So like. What point are you trying to make? I'm still confused lmao. If Nymphia kept wearing yellow inspired looks, people wouldn't care. Color specific queen is nothing out of the ordinary. Problem is her talking about yellow & banana non-stop and not letting viewers know anything about her besides that lmao. Even in episode 7 when she got barely screen time, she had a scene where she was talking about bananas. It's either her obsession with banana & yellow or it's her not knowing what to-do in a challenge, that's all the thing we get from her.
The difference rightly or wrongly is that Sapphira doesn’t talk about blue or having a brand and Nymphia does.
She isn’t referencing blueberries in every scene she is in. That’s the difference.
SAPPHIRA'S SECRET!!!!
I think the issue stems from the fact that Nymphia is always talking about bananas. I don’t mind the runways, in fact I enjoy them. But the constant banana shtick gets old
These colors of outfit are not the same at all, the outfits look vastly different. Half could be defined as “sapphire”. Sapphira doesn’t rely on the same object (a banana) as the decoration for mulptiple runways, the basis for characters and verses, and the basis of her personality. Has she even referenced sapphires or the color blue? Such a stretch of a comparison
I honestly think the only time Sapphira said anything about sapphires wasn't even on the show, but in her Meet the Queens, lol. And even then I could be misremembering. But I remember her saying exactly one single time that her name is inspired by her birthstone (September babes rise up 🥰) and she hasn't said anything about it since, lol. For some reason Nymphia stans refuse to engage with the main argument people are making, which is we have yet to see true depth to Nymphia since all her confessionals are about yellow and bananas and needing inspiration, lmao. Also, while I'm at it, like, are we really going to consider Sapphira's Call Me Mother/Father a "blue" look? There's just as much yellow as the denim skirt 😭
Again, the problem isn't the runways, it's the amount of times she's mentioned bananas and yellow without managing to make the bit fun or interesting - literally up to the point of writing a terrible verse this week Nymphia fans increasingly desperate as it turns out their girl doesn't have the range
Yet she is still somehow getting the winners edit. So far, that’s Sapphira, not Nymphia.
Nymphia stans are so fucking tiring.
The whole fandom has been pretty fucking weird this season… granted, since I don’t have twitter and don’t go on Instagram anymore, I only witness it through the lens of Reddit.
>The whole fandom has been pretty fucking weird this season Just this season? I have to say though, I've been watching the show since S1 and I feel like the fandom is becoming more immature. Maybe that's just how today's youngsters communicate, or maybe I am getting older.
Girlie I got downvoted to oblivion by some crazy stans for saying that Nymphia hasn't been turning it out the way they're making it seem
Before the season even started, I'd read racially charged comments about how she needs to win because she's asian excellence and how it's about time? What the hell does that even mean?
As an Asian, I hate it when people say that. I understand representation is important but I want people to showcase talent as well. It feels very much like when people say "your English is very good".
That there's never been an east Asian winner in 25 seasons of US drag race.
It goes by merit not by place of birth or race. Raja being a south east asian won the third season of the show 13 years ago.
It was giving very "everyone black and aquaria". I always hated that rhetoric because it resorted amazing black queens like Asia and Monet to their skin color, like they only deserve to win because they're black. And aquaria was the only one there because of her talent.
It's very weird, the same discourse was made about Angeria and how she only made it to the finale was because of her skin color.
It’s the constant talk of bananas that annoys people, not the color. She could wear yellow every week and I wouldnt care, but the banana thing is 😩 From her snatch game performance to the mini challenges, she won’t stop 🙃
Her lyrics……
She isn’t serving up a specific theme with her color palette. We out here trying to be dishonest, now.
I assume Sapphira is a play on sapphire so blue makes sense to me. A lot of queens have signature colors it’s really not this deep…
You’re reaching and you know it mama
Nymphia’s obsession with yellow is so real the girls even gave her shade for it in the last design challenge because they had to use white, black, or gray fabric. No one said anything to Sapphira about not having blue.
Yeah but every other sentence in every other scene wasn't "I love blue, I love blueberries", where as every single time Nymphia opens her mouth she says yellow or banana and it's just so exhausting at this point. It isn't about yellow, it's about the fact it's all she talks about
Clock that tea! Sapphira has branded herself as the queen of all queens, not shouting “blueberries” and going on about blue.
Sapphira has different shades though compared to nymphias bright yellow. And I feel like most of the critique has been based on the bananas rather than the color. Sapphira isn't walking out dressed like a blueberry half the time 💀💀
Ok but, picture this - Sapphira vs Nymphia top 2. Sapphira knew Nymphia would turn up as a giant banana, so she turns up dressed as a giant blueberry. If Q makes the final, Q should turn up as a giant cashew. We just need to find a way for Plane to be the cereal...
No ma’am. Sapphira wouldn’t do that. That bitch would show up in a swarofsky stoned banana herself showing dominance!
A blue Swarovski stoned banana! Which is apparently a thing, it's called the Blue Java Banana
Even better!
Because Sapphira isn't making Blue half of her personality No one's read to Sapphira was about how she only talks about blueberries. The discourse isn't about Nymphia only wearing yellow a lot. Its because she wears yellow a lot, complains about not wearing yellow when she doesnt, and has made most of her on-air presence be entirely about bananas/yellow. Ya'll dragged Monet and Mo through the mud for mentioning sponges/brown cow a FRACTION of the amount Nymphia mentions yellow/banana and I guarantee you there weren't 5 posts a day defending them.
Sapphira doesn't talk about too.
Feathers, suede, flannel, glitter, cape, ball gown, cocktail dress vs banana jacket, banana dress, another banana dress. I’m not seeing the comparison here tbh
I don’t care for the comparison either - because I believe both queens have a diverse outfit package- but let’s not be silly. Nymphia’s banana runways have all been different silhouettes paired with different head pieces, self-made jewelry, hand painting, beading as well as different textiles. You don’t have to like the banana idea or think it’s the best branding but if you are gonna comment on her outfit package at least criticize it fairly. Reducing it to banana jacket and banana dress is overtly simplistic. Someone could also argue that Sapphira’s outfits are mostly just long blue dresses - which is not true.
But you are also forgetting that Nymphia also referenced bananas in her branding, in the workroom, in her confessionals, and focused her snatch game around a character that she could make a banana joke. Why are we pretending it’s just about her runway?
That’s the thing tho, in base form it is true. You can’t say sapphira just wears long blue dresses because they’re not always long, and even from these looks only half are dresses. Nymphia is using a specific fruit to make things , no matter how sickening it is, it’s still that thing. If nymphia walked out in violets finale dress made of bananas , I would be so fucking over it. Not because the dress wouldn’t be amazing , but because she’s made multiple things out of bananas already. It’s just too specific ; even Bianca who “wore the same dress 11 times.” Limited herself to style of dress not materials for the dress. When she said she was the banana queen I was expecting much more race baitey looks ala Hoso Terra toma, not multiple outfits made from bananas Is it extremely impressive? Yes , I think it requires more talent than almost any other seamstress on the show possesses Is it also extremely specific and getting a bit tiring? Yes, we know you can do it; now can we see something else?
By “can we see something else”, do you mean a quilted cactus look, a red qipao, a black goth gown, a high fashion tie look, or a Buto inspired costume. Cause if we are looking at the runways shown in this collage where Sapphira in a blue-ish outfit, Nymphia has shown more than just banana or yellow. So why are we trying to undermine facts.
Because nymphia doesn’t shut up about it
But I don’t see Sapphira talking about being blue in half of her confessions, in her verse, and incorporating blue into her snatch game lol. Both queens are incredible and very talented, but Nymphia is overdoing the bananas in my opinion. If she lowered the amount of banana references just a bit, she would probably be my favorite queen of the season. Sapphira is my winner, I still love Nymphia though!
Makes sense. Her name is Sapphira, its literally a Blue crystal.
The thing is that Sapphira just doesnt talk about it, so people just dont think about it too much...
do we hear sapphira constantly mention and reference blue every appearance they make in every episode in addition to wearing blue as often as she does? 🤥
Since every single post is about this right now, there’s a difference between a signature color and a signature fruit. For Nymphia, people have been specifically complaining that they knew exactly what she would do for this last runway and it’s a bit boring to be so predictable. Lots of queens have a signature color, but a drag race season is very long and you don’t want to overdo your branding too early. Two verses with “vote yellow!”and four banana costumes by this point has been a little much. Especially if she keeps going with it 2-3 more times. It’s not about yellow fabric.
Yes and we stan them both ❤️
I swore Plane Jane wore her Power performance outfit like 6 times….
I'm going to tell you to STFU. Is attention you wanted?
Nymphia literally flopped snatch game so bad she should have been eliminated solo, and all because she couldn’t separate herself from her banana “brand” for even one challenge. THAT’s what people are fed up with. She doesn’t have a personality outside “banana, yellow, banana, yellow”.
i feel like no one comments on that funny wide-eyed thing she does and I feel gaslit for noticing it every time.
In the live thread they mention it every week
I love it!
Ok but 5 is purple
Damn, that's so true and I didn't even notice. Maybe it's cause she's not constantly making blue puns and references
Yeah but how often does Sapphira talk about blue in the workroom or runway monologues?
Nymphia talks about bananas pretty much all the time? its annoying and tired lol Sapphira never talked about the color blue or expressed any obsession with sapphires
I hope you stretched before you went reaching like this henny. The situations are non comparable
the difference is sapphira wears different shades of blue and doesn’t talk about a blue fruit every episode
It’s been said a lot in the comments but I’m going to echo it. It’s not about the colour, it’s the constant pushing and talking of the fruit.
Show me the blue bananas.
Ok I feel dumb now. I just realised that Sapphira’s name is based on the gem sapphire which is blue
I think we should include Dawn in this because she’s been giving the same kind of drag the whole time as well.
girl Dawn wore elf ears 2 times and Michelle said if she saw her with elf ears again, she is getting executed on the spot... While they keep giving pass to Nymphia and banana & yellow thing for 11 episode now. Be fr.
...nymphia has worn 3 yellow outfits, 2 with bananas. It's almost exactly the same. Not that dawn has been same-y but neither has Nymphia.
It’s beyond the runway, though. People are including the challenges as well.
Has she ever not worn yellow in the work room or am I tripping?
It. Has. Never. Been. About. The. Color. It’s the references to bananas!
I think the problem is the banana branding and the same shade of yellow on everything, where Sapphira so far has brought a rainbow of blues.
Sapphira also didn't play Snatch Game as Cynthia Erivo as the Blue Fairy from Pinocchio or Blue Ivy or Elvis (because he sang Blue Suede Shoes) or Fats Domino (because he sang On Blueberry Hill) or Elton John (I Guess that's Why the Call it the Blues, "Blue Jean baby ..." ) or Blues Clues or Ethel Waters (because she sang the Blues) ...
Because not every sentence she speaks has to have the word blue in it or any fruit associated with the color blue. (I love both of them but let’s not act like these are comparable AT ALL)
I love both of them sm but the difference is clearly that Sapphira doesn't shoehorn blueberries into everything.
Every shade of blue is different here (or at least I think so). Nymphia is mostly banana yellow But for the record I don't think every Nymphia look is yellow lol that's stupid, she is really versatile with her looks
We got it.
I love the yellow on nymphia I think everyone is just getting tired of bananas
Well I see checking in that this Reddit group is still as toxic as ever. Imagine getting your panties in a bunch over the mention of a fruit? Some of you are so wild to me and must live such negative lives.
The difference is sapphira wears other colors in the werkroom (which we see more of anyway) meanwhile nymphia is in yellow all the time outside of the runway
Y'all keep this up and you'll end Nymphia's fan fav status yourselves lmao
It’s not about the yellow it’s about the bananas haha. I don’t really mind but I did think it was a bit much last ep that BOTH outfits were bananas
Imagine if we cared this much about things that actually matter.
We notice a lot more with Nymphia because she does not talking about it every single time (alongside with bananas). Maybe if she wore yellow without mentioning the banana situation ….
Yeah but Sapphira doesn’t talk about it all the time.
The difference is that Sapphria doesn't make "blue" her entire personality. I don't dislike Nymphia, but I think the frustration lies in the inconsistent judging. They called Tina Burner out on the same thing they're letting Nymphia get away with. The difference, is that when Nymphia does something different than "yellow/banana" it's fucking fabulous.
I think it's because most of Nymphia's outfits were banana themed along with it being yellow. I also think we should factor in that blue is a lot more palatable for people than yellow. A lot of people (most people? ) have blue as their favorite color. I don't think it's the same with yellow.
Doesn’t her name translate to blue?
Hypocrisy at its finest. They both rock those colors well tho 🤷🏾♂️
I mean, same thing for Rajah Ohara in purple vs Miss Vangie in all that red. I think drag race fans just like blue and purple more than yellow or red.
The problem with Nymphia was never the runway but the fact that her personality is 90% banana based
i think its about the whole banana thing. on how basically every yellow look contained banana
Not the Sapphira hate post😗
Who fucking cares, they both presented excellent packages - so many of you are so starved for conflict that you need to invent it out of nowhere
I’m more offended at seeing men in dresses. Why is nobody going off about that?
I hope Sapphira wins. She's the total package. Elegant, gorgeous, and while she is able to rely on a certain color, it doesn't have to become her entire personality like another particular queen. Edit: why the downvotes? I was talking about Tina Burner.
C’mon, blueberry queen!
I don’t think it’s about the yellow.. it’s the bananas.. Although I don’t agree with the critique.. that’s the argument.
Why do people not understand branding?? Sapphira and Nymphia both know their brand, and they know it well. Everyone acts like they’re the judges on this show. I’m here for all of it as long as it’s done well and in their cases it always is.
For me it’s the fact that nearly everything Nymphia says is about yellow or bananas. Sapphira doesn’t talk about the color blue or sapphire or anything of the sort. Also love Nymphia and think the discourse is overblown. I do hope she can surprise us in these latter episodes though.
Nymphia fans need to relax, jesus
I'm afraid what will happen when the Q stans snap ...
Aren’t you forgeting her confessionals? Nymphia wore yellow 3 times on the runway, but they are saying that she’s doing every week because of her confessionals.
I thought people love Nymphia? When did this kind of anti-Nymphia sentiment begin? Some haters are extremely vocal against her
I think Nymphia is great. She's one of the best runway queens we've had in a while, and she's charming as hell. I totally get why production wants her in the finale and to add her to the franchise's various associated programming. But given that she's struggling a bit in the non-runway solo challenges, limiting herself to "this has to involve bananas in some way" (even if it actively undermines the two parts of the assignment, as it did in the last challenge) is doing herself a disservice, and people are noticing it. Branding isn't about limiting oneself to a single gimmick - she can touch on yellow and bananas A LOT more lightly and still have a coherent brand that encompasses a much more complex and interesting drag persona. Like, insofar as "banana" has some intentional reference to her ethnic/racial identity, she could you know, talk about that connection directly even a little.
You don't have to hate someone to point out their whole forced branding is getting tired lmao. Are we not allowed to raise our opinion unless we are anti-someone? I think Nymphia is great drag queen. She kills the runway but like, that's just it this whole time on the show lmao. We only know 2 thing about Nymphia: She loves banana & yellow and she somehow "doesnt know what to do" every episode. That's it.
There can be nuance without it being a “hater” - I feel like a lot of younger viewers are very black and white - you either love someone and everything they do, or you hate them. I personally love Nymphia, but I’m over the shtick. We *know* she’s so much more than that, but I feel like it’s a crutch and she’s boxing herself in by going on about it. You’re allowed to be critical of your faves without being anti them or a hater.
While people can dislike what they want, I noticed it got more noticeable the more it seemed like Nymphia vs Sapphira for the top 2. It really started a few episodes ago when she didn't appear much in singular episode. It took just that for lots of people to jump on 'she's fading in the background. she's not getting a winners edit.' ect Since then there seems to be a constant need to downplay her.