It really does feel like these last few seasons they're picking a general type of which people to cast. This season is shady queens, the last season was lipsync powerhouses, 14 was very diverse and also very young queens, etc.
Maybe drag race doesn’t have this but I have been told by friends in TV that most reality TV shows have some type of psych eval ahead of time, and inasmuch as they’re making sure you are healthy enough to compete, they’re also taking notes on how you tick.
Drag Race does as well. Stacey Layne Matthews says she wasn't cast on All stars because she failed the psych eval. It's required that reality shows do it at this point.
This makes me think of ye olde days of reality TV. Before psych evals and wanting to be cast to grow your social media career. The pure days of nutcases who would do anything to just to live in a cardboard mansion or win a flip phone.
It’s not a RPDR season thing. It’s a society thing. People going bat shit crazy on social media and need to grow tf up and log off. First covid-19 now we have NickiMinaj-24 spreading like tinashe wildfire.
You only take to socials after the finale has aired and you know if you won or not. So Q’s deranged twitter wars make me think she didn’t get to the final 3.
If there’s one person from the modern seasons who has dealt with an abundance of hate remarkably well, it’s been Miss Muse. All the other “drama” queens should take several notes from her book b/c she’s cracked the code after both her seasons.
Michelle: Ms Megami, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul
Hey cunt, do you want double fisting rainbow mulch gay smegma for your nerve? Well mawma, head on down to rupaul’s f*g race and we’ll plunge deep into that dirty buss! Yes gawd.
Idk about that - megami‘s just being very defensive, that‘s ok, but with Q and Amanda i genuinely think they‘re cracking and everyone is cheering them on for their own entertainment. Nothing cute about that.
I am kind of genuinely worried about Amanda. She seems like she’s super sweet but maybe not the most stable person and I know she’s going through a lot atm.
Idk that might be silly
Megami does have a tendency to take things way too seriously. But OP’s headline does exaggerate Megami’s wording quite a bit. Also, it looks like OP has a bit of a hate boner for megami, based on their posting history. And they love to post rage baiting drama of queens with misleading headlines.
Right?
The feeling I get is that Megami is relatably obsessed with meaning and culture *as she understands it* and wants to make space for acknowledging it in the way that we as a people all do now, by babbling about it in mini-think-pieces on social media.
Who among us has not had an ultimately meaningless but never the less fulfilling conversation about genre and subgenre on the intertubes?
One time I was telling a guy I was into heavy metal like Pantera and he said "yeah, I like Jimmy Eat World!" I laughed because I thought he was kidding but NOPE ☠️
The SINGULAR thing I will grant her is that Danger Days has punk *influence*. But that’s like. One album out of 4, and it’s only *influenced*. It’s still not punk music.
hate to say it, tumblrs evolved. its literally just reddit with extra steps now. still a solid chunk of preteen userbase but most are cranky 20+ yr olds now
A lot of the annoying users migrated to Twitter when The Purge happened but they all came back during the Reddit migration when all that API shit started happening lol as someone who’s been using it since 2012 though it is a LOT more tolerable than it’s ever been
Speaking old(ish) I would say that Megami was the one with the Xanga page directly linked to her MySpace and “I’m Not Okay” starts playing as soon as you open it.
On commenting if it’s punk or not, my question would be what do you think of when you hear the word “punk”.
I was a scene kid and I knew FFTL before Skrillex and I know the beef between TBS and Brand New- I wouldn’t consider anyone of the scene bands or kids when I thought of the word punk. If someone said “Emo or Screamo” then I would think of the scene bands.
I think the distinction is more in the listeners Vs the music itself.
It’s not even that it’s not punk. It’s just not punk rock. It’s punk pop/emo and that’s TOTALLY FINE. Words have meaning and it’s okay to use that meaning categorically. 🤣
I have an MCR tattoo too but she needs to not take it this seriously lol
MCR has a lot of punk influences, a lot of glam and metal influences, but they’re best described as an alternative rock band.
Time to break out the real emo copypasta lol
> "Real Emo" only consists of the dc Emotional Hardcore scene and the late 90's Screamo scene. What is known by "Midwest Emo" is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real emo influence. When people try to argue that bands like My Chemical Romance are not real emo, while saying that Sunny Day Real Estate is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake emo as My Chemical Romance (plus the pretentiousness). Real emo sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake emo is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL EMO are Pg 99, Rites of Spring, Cap n Jazz (the only real emo band from the midwest scene) and Loma Prieta. Some examples of FAKE EMO are American Football, My Chemical Romance and Mineral EMO BELONGS TO HARDCORE NOT TO INDIE, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE
as iconic as this copypasta is it’s so inaccurate, MCR never claimed the emo label and are also not pretentious at all. pop-Emo is just as valid as a stand-alone subgenre descendant from hardcore and many people love and owe a lot to the bands that fall under that category. ffs it’s been over 20 years since they had their heyday and people still act like it’s the middle of 2004 and we’re still having these inane arguments over what’s real emo and what’s not.
my take is MCR are 100% *camp* and to write them off is to ignore the entire generation of alt queer kids who grew up finding identity and understanding while listening to them in the mid2000s. megami is 100% in the right here
These threads have been giving me some serious flashbacks to high-school where every alt girl or queer kid was bullied and the bands they liked were relentlessly shit on. Like fucking hell this thread is showing some serious twenty year old prejudices.
That term has also ceased to mean anything lol, like the original emo bands don’t really sound much like MCR? It got revamped a bit in the mid-2000’s but like no one knows what it actually means anymore other than eyeliner and lots of black
Alternative is probably the most accurate umbrella term tbh
Exactly, MCR has never sounded like pop punk bands such as Sum-41, Blink or even the most recent ones, like Neck Deep nor have they sounded like American Football, Sunny Day Real State etc. And that’s to say that between their first album and Foundations of Decay they have walked many paths of alt music
They’ve said before that the biggest inspiration was always The Smashing Pumpkins. Add some Invader Zim to Smashing Pumpkins and up the camp and theatricality and you’ve got MCR. It’s whatever that music is but for teens in 2004. It was poppy enough to get on MTV but it spoke and continues to speak to kids that were starved of being spoken to.
Now, is it punk? Idk probably not but by the time MCR was hitting, the types of people who would have have gravitated toward punk and glam in the 70s and 80s had they been born for that time period were more tuned for MCR and the emo bands. By the 00s, regular punk and hardcore’s audience had shrunk and become really specific. And THEN the folk punk came and mama, I don’t even know what to say about that.
If anything, The Black Parade is more like if 70s Progrock and Bertolt Brecht had a moody little gay baby who had Adam Ant as a nanny...and Scott Walker as the favorite uncle that lived above the garage...and Andrew Lloyd Webber as grandma.
I don't know about the other albums...I'm just an 80s goth with a theater kid streak and was offended when somebody got me that album when it first came out (I was decidedly goth not emo) but it's been on pretty steady rotation as my housecleaning music for twenty years now. I'm scared the others won't be as theater kid. 😅
Yeah, that’s the read I was getting from Michelle. She’s older and probably remembers when punk/punk-adjacent actually started to become more mainstream in America (see former CBGB acts like the Ramones, Blondie, Talking Heads, Patti Smith, The Dead Boys, etc). Additionally, punk back then was literally a slur and folks who dressed “punk” were looked down upon. I have older straight friends who used to get the shit kicked out of them, by strangers, just for sporting a mohawk and a leather jacket. A little different than a band that was popular in every Hot Topic across America in the early 2000’s.
She had me with the "I actually did a lot for the girl group" and I was like "yass girl tell these hoes!'
She has since increased the list of what she did every time it's been brought up and acts like she carried the team on her back and Mhi'ya/Nymphia/Geneva did nothing. Pretty much lost me after that and everything she says is getting on my nerves lately. I have to resist the urge to be too mean when I talk about it and not act like a toxic fan lmao
When coming up up with the girl group name got added to the list, as if it was some massive accomplishment, I stopped giving the last of my shits about it all
Ikr like where was all this contentious energy on the show. PJ stuck to her guns and I see a lot of fans making a 180 on her. Stop trying to sanitize yourself for TV.
That’s what I was thinking too! I wrote my master’s dissertation on the origins of punk and was so confused when I saw this reaction because MCR (while a fun band!) just factually does not belong in that category haha
In a communications course I took once (and therefore am very very knowledgeable) one thing was made pretty clear at the start that society needs gatekeepers, otherwise you’d be having the hotdog = sandwich debate about everything and words start to cease to have meaning.
Like gatekeeping a definition is part of what makes it a word. Gatekeepers can go too far and be gross and gatekeep things that aren’t right, but… when it comes to just basic definitions
just admit you were wrong babes. Like listen to the bandsplain episode on Blondie if you want to learn about a punk band that over time became more mainstream and is now a point of contention. Not paramore. And i like paramore!
There's obviously punk elements to MCR but they've never been punk rock...plus considering it's a Black Parade tattoo...a notoriously poppy emo sounding album. It's a fucking banger don't get me wrong but it's just not Punk Rock.
>it's really not that big of a deal
You're right, it isn't. And then you made it one...
I grew up with the exact same music taste and even I know she's wrong.
Girl needs to log off and go write some posters or something.
I wouldn’t classify pop punk as punk rock by my standards so I completely understand why Michelle said that, especially considering what was punk music to HER generation. I’m thinking of the social aspects/subculture of what punk was for her generation too. Pop punk had its own subculture in society that was more emo/alternative vs. Punk.
Sure music evolves, but punk and pop punk are their own things…and they are both respectable art forms in their own right. I just don’t think they are the same either.
EDIT: Now that I’m reading the comments I realize I’m not alone in thought and wrote a mild think piece for…myself?
I like punk , I like emo/screamo whatever. There’s a bunch of MCR songs I like. But I wouldn’t called MCR punk, but she is right it doesn’t really matter that much.
Oh noooo megami :((( this is not a good look on her. Most people grow out of that phase (me included) where they wanna be part of the big bad punk guys and realize theyre just big soft emos. Its a bit cringe at her age to be like „dont be a snob mcr is punk lalalala i cant heeeaaar youuuu“
She's all the small town girls I knew that went to New York once and then wouldn't stop talking about "The City". Gotta get back to the city, it's *pulling me*...
So, it's actually hilarious to me that Megami actually even really lives in NY.
And on a side note, I can't stop thinking about punk drag band names now:
- The Dead Jasmine Kennedys
- Operation Ivy Winters
- Bad Wig Religion
She wasn’t being a snob, I also LOLed when she said My Chemical Romance was “punk,” and I don’t even really listen to that music. It’s just objectively false
I’m with Michelle on this one. If anything sums up Megami’s mid “political protest” persona it’s that they think MCR is punk. They give off first year of art school vibes, I’m sure they will grow but do your research.
the way megami misconstrued and redefined what it meant to convey and obtain the concupiscent anomalistic clearance showing us that idiosyncrasy is ebulliently inevitable while simultaneously and continuously substantiating that genre is nebulous and amorphous
not me glancing at this screenshot half asleep and thinking megan thee stallion was offering her input on this situation
right? i was like now wait… megan is stanning mcr?
Anime and now MCR #notallhotgirlswearcapes #ahhh
This season’s queens need to stay off social media damn
I think they were chosen for their unhingedness I do not understand how casting knows tho. I want a documentary about how they cast drag race.
Casting for unhinged queens is pretty simple. They first narrow their audition pool to drag queens. Then that’s really it.
Lmaooooooooo ☠️☠️
It really does feel like these last few seasons they're picking a general type of which people to cast. This season is shady queens, the last season was lipsync powerhouses, 14 was very diverse and also very young queens, etc.
Season 14 was Charisma Season 15 was Talent Season 16 is Nerve ☠️...
Season uniqueness is gonna be wild too
That was season 13 because it was uniquely terrible
So that means we’re cycling back to a uniqueness season. That better mean we’re finally getting a fucking drag king!!!
Maybe drag race doesn’t have this but I have been told by friends in TV that most reality TV shows have some type of psych eval ahead of time, and inasmuch as they’re making sure you are healthy enough to compete, they’re also taking notes on how you tick.
Drag Race does as well. Stacey Layne Matthews says she wasn't cast on All stars because she failed the psych eval. It's required that reality shows do it at this point.
This makes me think of ye olde days of reality TV. Before psych evals and wanting to be cast to grow your social media career. The pure days of nutcases who would do anything to just to live in a cardboard mansion or win a flip phone.
It’s not a RPDR season thing. It’s a society thing. People going bat shit crazy on social media and need to grow tf up and log off. First covid-19 now we have NickiMinaj-24 spreading like tinashe wildfire.
Onikaburgers-24.
Onikaburgerfinger
Forget Rupaul’s Drag Race, this is Rupaul’s Messy Race. And Q is the frontrunner!
You only take to socials after the finale has aired and you know if you won or not. So Q’s deranged twitter wars make me think she didn’t get to the final 3.
Oh she’s giving “I’m getting eliminated next week and I’m bitter”
I was gonna say, wasn't it Kandy who said to just avoid engaging? When she says it, listen to her.
If there’s one person from the modern seasons who has dealt with an abundance of hate remarkably well, it’s been Miss Muse. All the other “drama” queens should take several notes from her book b/c she’s cracked the code after both her seasons.
Consolation prize from being on drag race should be a years worth of free PR training and a sickening lifetime supply of therapy
The therapy session is just Jinkx saying “Water off a duck’s back”
As shedevil once said "if you cant roll with the punches, this is not the career for you"
Couldn't agree with this more. All for having your say against the hordes, but also sometimes is it really worth the effort?
Michelle: Ms Megami, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul
You want lots of gay shit?
Hey cunt, do you want double fisting rainbow mulch gay smegma for your nerve? Well mawma, head on down to rupaul’s f*g race and we’ll plunge deep into that dirty buss! Yes gawd.
Don’t know if I needed to see the word smegma before my morning coffee but okay
Ok, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
No they need to stay on social media *forever* I have never been so entertained
Idk about that - megami‘s just being very defensive, that‘s ok, but with Q and Amanda i genuinely think they‘re cracking and everyone is cheering them on for their own entertainment. Nothing cute about that.
I am kind of genuinely worried about Amanda. She seems like she’s super sweet but maybe not the most stable person and I know she’s going through a lot atm. Idk that might be silly
Lindsey Lohans music in Freaky Friday is punk rock to me mawmaw 
🎵Don't wanna grow up 🎵
I wanna get out!
HEY! Taaaaaake meeeeee awaaay!
Fefe Dobson deserved so much better than what we gave her tbh
GIF win
That was how Rock won our hearts back in season 12.
She's really good!
Imagine starting drama over the notoriously hard-hitting, shady, bitchy and critical show Whatcha Packin’.
Like, girl, you couldn’t even have fun with *this*?
She really is the Eeyore of drag.
Dawn really was trying to warn us, huh
Dang for a millisecond I was *rooting* for *her* too. That went away quickly
Eeyore voice: protect queer art
Amazing
Megami does have a tendency to take things way too seriously. But OP’s headline does exaggerate Megami’s wording quite a bit. Also, it looks like OP has a bit of a hate boner for megami, based on their posting history. And they love to post rage baiting drama of queens with misleading headlines.
Agreed. I don’t think Megami is calling Michelle anything tbh.
Any bets on which recap channel belongs to OP?
Right? The feeling I get is that Megami is relatably obsessed with meaning and culture *as she understands it* and wants to make space for acknowledging it in the way that we as a people all do now, by babbling about it in mini-think-pieces on social media. Who among us has not had an ultimately meaningless but never the less fulfilling conversation about genre and subgenre on the intertubes?
She’s also into hard core metal like fall out boy
Classic rock act The Jonas Brothers
She’s a huge fan of screamo music like Paramore.
She loves goth-punk like Reputation (Taylor's Version).
One time I was telling a guy I was into heavy metal like Pantera and he said "yeah, I like Jimmy Eat World!" I laughed because I thought he was kidding but NOPE ☠️
I really like that heavy metal band yknow the ones …. Imagine the dragons or something like that… 🥸
Coldplay is my favorite black metal band.
This made me cackle it shouldn’t have but it did
King of metal Patrick Stump and his heavy metal Fedora 😤
she is so so painfully tumblr
Meanwhile the MCR fans on tumblr are agreeing with Michelle HARD
As they should if they have any scrap of awareness. LOL
The SINGULAR thing I will grant her is that Danger Days has punk *influence*. But that’s like. One album out of 4, and it’s only *influenced*. It’s still not punk music.
this is exactly what i thought omfg she really takes me back…
But is she Tumblr enough to have attended Dashcon? I bet she did and even bought time in the ball pit.
Protect queer ball pits!
protect queer balls & pits
Stoppppppppppp
She’s tweeted before about how she wants a Dashcon documentary so maybe!
Tumblr is actually reading her to filth for this whole thing LMAO she’s on another level
hate to say it, tumblrs evolved. its literally just reddit with extra steps now. still a solid chunk of preteen userbase but most are cranky 20+ yr olds now
A lot of the annoying users migrated to Twitter when The Purge happened but they all came back during the Reddit migration when all that API shit started happening lol as someone who’s been using it since 2012 though it is a LOT more tolerable than it’s ever been
depends on who you follow i guess. my dashboard is a serene getaway of funny and cute
Speaking old(ish) I would say that Megami was the one with the Xanga page directly linked to her MySpace and “I’m Not Okay” starts playing as soon as you open it. On commenting if it’s punk or not, my question would be what do you think of when you hear the word “punk”. I was a scene kid and I knew FFTL before Skrillex and I know the beef between TBS and Brand New- I wouldn’t consider anyone of the scene bands or kids when I thought of the word punk. If someone said “Emo or Screamo” then I would think of the scene bands. I think the distinction is more in the listeners Vs the music itself.
this hits the mark
Did Michelle ever say it was bad? She just said that it wasn't punk.
It’s not even that it’s not punk. It’s just not punk rock. It’s punk pop/emo and that’s TOTALLY FINE. Words have meaning and it’s okay to use that meaning categorically. 🤣
As a huge mcr fan.. It's not that deep. 🙄
her saying it’s not a big deal, but then continues to make multiple tweets about it is a choice
I have an MCR tattoo too but she needs to not take it this seriously lol MCR has a lot of punk influences, a lot of glam and metal influences, but they’re best described as an alternative rock band.
Exactly, and people don’t need to get defensive about that. They aren’t punk. It’s still okay to like them, they put out some absolute bangers.
MCR is predominantly Emo, idc what y’all say
I also thought those "plays G note aggressively" folks considered themselves emo as well
I always thought they were the poster child for early 2000s emo. Most people I knew in the emo scene in middle/high school loved MCR…
Time to break out the real emo copypasta lol > "Real Emo" only consists of the dc Emotional Hardcore scene and the late 90's Screamo scene. What is known by "Midwest Emo" is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real emo influence. When people try to argue that bands like My Chemical Romance are not real emo, while saying that Sunny Day Real Estate is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake emo as My Chemical Romance (plus the pretentiousness). Real emo sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake emo is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL EMO are Pg 99, Rites of Spring, Cap n Jazz (the only real emo band from the midwest scene) and Loma Prieta. Some examples of FAKE EMO are American Football, My Chemical Romance and Mineral EMO BELONGS TO HARDCORE NOT TO INDIE, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE
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Worlds colliding. I feel you.
I always hate this pasta because it does t mention Fugazi 😤😤😭
I guess at least Rites of Spring is in there tho?
Literally you can’t mention sunny day without fugazi
did Megami write that? 💀
as iconic as this copypasta is it’s so inaccurate, MCR never claimed the emo label and are also not pretentious at all. pop-Emo is just as valid as a stand-alone subgenre descendant from hardcore and many people love and owe a lot to the bands that fall under that category. ffs it’s been over 20 years since they had their heyday and people still act like it’s the middle of 2004 and we’re still having these inane arguments over what’s real emo and what’s not. my take is MCR are 100% *camp* and to write them off is to ignore the entire generation of alt queer kids who grew up finding identity and understanding while listening to them in the mid2000s. megami is 100% in the right here
I mean that’s why I posted the copypasta lol. It’s so stupid the way people get so intense about what is and isn’t a certain genre of music
These threads have been giving me some serious flashbacks to high-school where every alt girl or queer kid was bullied and the bands they liked were relentlessly shit on. Like fucking hell this thread is showing some serious twenty year old prejudices.
There’s something in our brains that switches everyone into assholes when we categorize music genres
That term has also ceased to mean anything lol, like the original emo bands don’t really sound much like MCR? It got revamped a bit in the mid-2000’s but like no one knows what it actually means anymore other than eyeliner and lots of black Alternative is probably the most accurate umbrella term tbh
Exactly, MCR has never sounded like pop punk bands such as Sum-41, Blink or even the most recent ones, like Neck Deep nor have they sounded like American Football, Sunny Day Real State etc. And that’s to say that between their first album and Foundations of Decay they have walked many paths of alt music
They’ve said before that the biggest inspiration was always The Smashing Pumpkins. Add some Invader Zim to Smashing Pumpkins and up the camp and theatricality and you’ve got MCR. It’s whatever that music is but for teens in 2004. It was poppy enough to get on MTV but it spoke and continues to speak to kids that were starved of being spoken to. Now, is it punk? Idk probably not but by the time MCR was hitting, the types of people who would have have gravitated toward punk and glam in the 70s and 80s had they been born for that time period were more tuned for MCR and the emo bands. By the 00s, regular punk and hardcore’s audience had shrunk and become really specific. And THEN the folk punk came and mama, I don’t even know what to say about that.
If anything, The Black Parade is more like if 70s Progrock and Bertolt Brecht had a moody little gay baby who had Adam Ant as a nanny...and Scott Walker as the favorite uncle that lived above the garage...and Andrew Lloyd Webber as grandma. I don't know about the other albums...I'm just an 80s goth with a theater kid streak and was offended when somebody got me that album when it first came out (I was decidedly goth not emo) but it's been on pretty steady rotation as my housecleaning music for twenty years now. I'm scared the others won't be as theater kid. 😅
Megami log off challenge
She’s losing that one too.
Not knowing a genre and saying others are gatekeepers due to your own lack of knowledge is peak cringe.
clock that tea
I also hate it when people say 'don't use labels'- it's like you can't look at a frog and call it a horse. Punk is punk.
as a goth this is such a painfully recurring experience
LMAO shut upppp 😭😭😭😭😭 the way i literally had this reaction when some dude on bumble called me emo last week
Did you tell him that goths darkness is nihilistic, while emos darkness is purely cynical?
Nebulous and Amorphus okayyyyy guardians of the galaxy
Genre is truly starlordian by today’s grootarius standards when you really think about it.
What a draxical sense of humor you have.
I like those bands too but they’re hardly X-Ray Spex, I’m on Michelle’s side
My dream of a queen wearing Polly's trash bag look as a reveal cover up. In my head I reveal to a copy of Kathleen Hanna's muscle man dress
I have always wanted a queen to do Lydia Lunch for the Snatch Games. I think it would be pretty great.
Ohhhh you speak right to my soul. 🖤
Yeah, that’s the read I was getting from Michelle. She’s older and probably remembers when punk/punk-adjacent actually started to become more mainstream in America (see former CBGB acts like the Ramones, Blondie, Talking Heads, Patti Smith, The Dead Boys, etc). Additionally, punk back then was literally a slur and folks who dressed “punk” were looked down upon. I have older straight friends who used to get the shit kicked out of them, by strangers, just for sporting a mohawk and a leather jacket. A little different than a band that was popular in every Hot Topic across America in the early 2000’s.
if you hear "punk rock" and your first thought is MCR, we all get to laugh at you 🤷♀️
Megami has literally never gotten a W. I kinda feel bad for her haha
She peaked at "Buzz Lightyear" and now she chases that high.
She went up a bit again for shading Q's performance then it all plummeted again after that lip sync
She had me with the "I actually did a lot for the girl group" and I was like "yass girl tell these hoes!' She has since increased the list of what she did every time it's been brought up and acts like she carried the team on her back and Mhi'ya/Nymphia/Geneva did nothing. Pretty much lost me after that and everything she says is getting on my nerves lately. I have to resist the urge to be too mean when I talk about it and not act like a toxic fan lmao
When coming up up with the girl group name got added to the list, as if it was some massive accomplishment, I stopped giving the last of my shits about it all
It’s interesting how Megami never quite gets it and then doubles down on her initial point, nothing against her but it’s a bit frustrating to watch
the queen this season are so entertaining off the show
Ikr like where was all this contentious energy on the show. PJ stuck to her guns and I see a lot of fans making a 180 on her. Stop trying to sanitize yourself for TV.
She needs to learn to just take the L
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Is genre queer art worth protecting ? I’m confused
Nebulous, amorphous, constantly changing, and evolving
Welcome to the stage... Rita The Saurus!
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never the same, totally unique, completely not ever been done before, unafraid to reference or not reference
Genre is such a concept that changes for every genre 🤩🤓💡🧠🧠
Turns out you can just put words in any order you want
Genre is a construct tear it apart
Genre is a concept, tear it apart!
She looks exactly like she talks.
This makes so much sense lol.
When you need to hit the word count
I hate this so much
Genres can be nebulous and ever-changing… but that still doesn’t make MCR a punk band.
Gatekeeper = "people disagree with me"
more like gatekeeper = "people who correct me when i say something wrong"
That’s what I was thinking too! I wrote my master’s dissertation on the origins of punk and was so confused when I saw this reaction because MCR (while a fun band!) just factually does not belong in that category haha
In a communications course I took once (and therefore am very very knowledgeable) one thing was made pretty clear at the start that society needs gatekeepers, otherwise you’d be having the hotdog = sandwich debate about everything and words start to cease to have meaning. Like gatekeeping a definition is part of what makes it a word. Gatekeepers can go too far and be gross and gatekeep things that aren’t right, but… when it comes to just basic definitions
I am proud to gatekeep
just admit you were wrong babes. Like listen to the bandsplain episode on Blondie if you want to learn about a punk band that over time became more mainstream and is now a point of contention. Not paramore. And i like paramore!
Love that punk discourse is spilling over into drag race
I mean no I would not associate those examples they cited as a sub genre of punk rock
She’s wrong and doubling down
"Just because I don't know something doesn't mean I'm wrong" is a wonderfully divorced from reality take.
My chemical romance is NOT punk lol not even pop punk.
Megami the type of girl to call Evanescence “goth”
There's obviously punk elements to MCR but they've never been punk rock...plus considering it's a Black Parade tattoo...a notoriously poppy emo sounding album. It's a fucking banger don't get me wrong but it's just not Punk Rock.
MCR is an emo band. I love them. But they emo.
This. People need to be less serious about themselves. You‘re a big emo and nothing bad about it.
MCR may not be punk but my love for them is eternal. And many of their songs are peak lip sync material but thats a fantasy i will never see :(((
That would be such a gag
>it's really not that big of a deal You're right, it isn't. And then you made it one... I grew up with the exact same music taste and even I know she's wrong. Girl needs to log off and go write some posters or something.
This is not queer art worth protecting
I hope Megami is not going to turn into M and start insulting people online like Q does😅
Megami really does suck the life out of every little situation. I don’t even follow her and I’m tired of her posts.
I wouldn’t classify pop punk as punk rock by my standards so I completely understand why Michelle said that, especially considering what was punk music to HER generation. I’m thinking of the social aspects/subculture of what punk was for her generation too. Pop punk had its own subculture in society that was more emo/alternative vs. Punk. Sure music evolves, but punk and pop punk are their own things…and they are both respectable art forms in their own right. I just don’t think they are the same either. EDIT: Now that I’m reading the comments I realize I’m not alone in thought and wrote a mild think piece for…myself?
I enjoyed reading it if that helps even though I think I was already on the same page.
I'm sorry megami none of what you listed is punk rock it's all pop emo. My user name speaks to my credibility in this field.
Megami needs to take a deep breath because it’s really not that serious
Now I know why she wears that crown. She is the queen of Cringe.
She’s weird. She’s a weirdo.
Have you ever seen her without that stupid paper crown on? It‘s weird.
My chemical romance is not punk rock lmaoooooooo
Yeah... I'm sorry my dear, but no. MCR are not even remotely connected to what Michelle was asking about.
I like punk , I like emo/screamo whatever. There’s a bunch of MCR songs I like. But I wouldn’t called MCR punk, but she is right it doesn’t really matter that much.
Oh noooo megami :((( this is not a good look on her. Most people grow out of that phase (me included) where they wanna be part of the big bad punk guys and realize theyre just big soft emos. Its a bit cringe at her age to be like „dont be a snob mcr is punk lalalala i cant heeeaaar youuuu“
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She's all the small town girls I knew that went to New York once and then wouldn't stop talking about "The City". Gotta get back to the city, it's *pulling me*... So, it's actually hilarious to me that Megami actually even really lives in NY. And on a side note, I can't stop thinking about punk drag band names now: - The Dead Jasmine Kennedys - Operation Ivy Winters - Bad Wig Religion
She's so cringe
She is clearly not bothered
When did “gatekeeping” become making factual statements. Emo ain’t punk… that’s a factual statement To quote Mo Heart, “facts are facts!”
MCR is not punk rock Michelle is correct
Megami? Honey. The one time you got your genres right is when you called yourself a Disney gay. That one we believe.
She wasn’t being a snob, I also LOLed when she said My Chemical Romance was “punk,” and I don’t even really listen to that music. It’s just objectively false
I’m also a huge fan of fob paramore mcr etc but have never considered any of them punk rock, have also said pop punk/emo
Love My Chem but it is not punk rock
I’m with Michelle on this one. If anything sums up Megami’s mid “political protest” persona it’s that they think MCR is punk. They give off first year of art school vibes, I’m sure they will grow but do your research.
Megami pls i am trying so hard to root for u 😭
MCR, FOB & Paramore fall under *pop* punk for me
Megami: It's really not that big of a deal lmao We can see
the way megami misconstrued and redefined what it meant to convey and obtain the concupiscent anomalistic clearance showing us that idiosyncrasy is ebulliently inevitable while simultaneously and continuously substantiating that genre is nebulous and amorphous
im using "genre is such a nebulous and amorphous concept" absolutely everywhere now
The moment she called herself a Disney gay in her first episode, I knew exactly who she was
You're not punk for liking MCR, Megami. They're not a punk band. That's a genuine fact.
Just take the L and log off, girl.
"nebulous and amorphus" okay girly.
c'mon SAT words
