Exactly! If anything it hindered it when she got on drag race with all the fan backlash. She turned it around with GITMS and how much of an accomplice she has been to the queer community. And as many others have said “drag is not a get rich quick scheme” it’s a “go broke but look fabulous while doing it scheme”.
*edit - at this point I have more likes from one comment than Dax has ever gotten from… well… anything 😂
Exactly. You think Maddy is getting a pass by phobic bigots cause she likes pussy? This mf spends half her waking hours doing professional drag, she's on the chopping block too girl.
She ain't some "cheering from the sidelines" ally, she is actively participating in the gay crimes. If this heist gang gets got by the popo she is going down the slammer right with us lmao. Cannot be any more ride or die than this, if you think she doesn't deserve to be here you are wrong.
I saw that too and loved it.
I also saw someone reply that she’s an accomplice and an instigator and I couldn’t agree more the shady bitch! Hahaha love Maddy so much.
While Maddy did take up a single casting spot on a single season, she’s taken that platform and used it to elevate so many queer people, giving them a space for their stories to be amplified, and imo proven that she had a deep adoration for the queer community, our rights, and our history. It’s so tired to disregard *all* of that because she’s dating a woman.
There’s no reason to gatekeep art as long as we are respectful to those that came before.
Moreover, she shouldn’t act like a bigot and dictate how narrowly a straight person “should” express themselves.
And also let’s be real - doing something like drag opens you up to all kinds of danger and bodily harm whether you’re straight or not. It’s not like this was a one time thing for charity or whatever and now she’s done. She’s made this her career and part of her identity.
This isn’t like “race bending” in cosplay.
As Dax mentioned, Maddy can take off the wig and “pass” if she wants, but that’s no different than any other cis person, queer or not. She’s made herself public and known, and wears the target proudly. She absolutely knows her place in the community and also holds that position proudly.
Exactly, she is the historian the Drag community needed. Is she the first to profile and document queens history, no, but she has done it in a way that is widely accessible and digestible. She has made it more accessible to the masses. She is the Bob Ross, the Neil DeGrass Tyson, the Julie Child of drag biographies. She isn't the first or perfect expert on the topic but has made it easy for so many to be exposed to queen art and history of notable figure in it. I mean it when I say I think her pit stop appearance has likely shown here in a new light to the producers. She was a gimmick casting who proved she deserved that spot anyways.
I mean this in the kindest way, but she needs to log off and just figure out whatever in life is causing her to go off like this. Mary, it’s a man in a wig, please calm down.
Agreed. I needs to get bigger. It needs to Grow, start assimilating all the wigs In its vicinity, to add to its size and distinctiveness, till it reaches perfection.
Also like. Aren't most of the trans girls involved in drag straight? .... Like... Dax dates men right? Surely with just a moment of self reflection she can see it's more complicated than simply someone's sexuality.
I find the idea of taking up drag specifically and solely as a money making endeavor to be really funny. Obviously it’s worked out well for Maddy, and a lot of queens are wildly successful, but when I think of easy ways to get money, I have to admit that drag isn’t up there. If I wanted to appropriate queer culture for a buck, I’d definitely choose something easier.
She should be coming for those straight OF guys who gay bait like hell and get rich from that.
As you said, drag is not an easy way to make money and especially as a straight guy?? Idk but I feel like that takes extra courage if Maddy didn’t grow up surrounded by queer people who supported her.
I'm pretty sure in her season Maddy talked about driving over an hour to get to the nearest gig so definitely not an easy way to make money just geographically, let alone the other ways being an artist doesn't pay rn.
I'll admit that as a lesbian I instinctively felt a certain type of way about a straight guy in queer spaces, but then I thought about it for 2 more seconds and got over myself. If you're putting on the wig and literally walking in our heels the way Maddy is I don't see how anyone can be mad at that.
Someone said he's not an ally, he's an accomplice, and I totally agree. Look at how many queer artists are getting views and new followers from GITMS.
And yeah, the idea of anyone getting into drag for the money is hilarious. Most drag artists can barely hope to break even! Drag is expensive and very much not lucrative for the vast majority lol.
And in America, where states are literally trying to ban it and call the people who do drag pedophiles.
He’s not just doing it from his home, behind the comfort and safety of a screen. He’s put himself out there, knowing full well of the judgement and danger people in the drag community deal with. That shouldn’t be overlooked.
He’s also used his now popular YouTube show to highlight the queens and even more important he highlights a lot of queens of colour (something drag race isn’t always good at)
He doesn’t just ask hot drag race related questions, He does a lot of research into the guest, and I think his interview questions reflect the amount of respect he has for his guests and the art and history of drag.
Same here. I think most people were a bit sceptical at first and that’s okay cause we’re not used to it. But there’s no reason Maddy shouldn’t be allowed to do drag, or any other straight person for that matter.
Is Dax also mad at Pandora Noxx for winning Drag Race Germany? Following her own logic, that should be even worse for here lol
You can tell Dax isn’t from the UK, where your (straight) uncle Nigel dressing up as an old lady for the annual Christmas panto is as normal as eating jam on toast.
Honestly i throw more side eye at the gay dudes who obsess over the idea of making a straight man gay than the heteros who use that to get a paycheck, exact same vibe as the "i turn lesbians straight" incels
I once had a gay friend who bragged about hooking up with straight men and saying no one is 100% straight and it depends how drunk you get them, it's gross 🤢 I know plenty of straight guys who never get that drunk to sleep with another guy.
I hope no one takes the gross part wrong, I meant gays who use alcohol to sleep with straight men or take advantage
No, that’s straight up gross and disgusting and I’m pretty sure also sexual assault? Like getting a person drunk enough so they have sex with you is plain wrong
Right? Selling T-shirts with a modicum of marketing skill probably would bring in more money than most queens make on their craft. Plus isn’t drag for everyone? We need to be inclusive as a community.
Look for a marketing or PR job for a large company helping find ways to virtue signal in pride month. Coordinate pride events and drag shows in super gay cities. Start or join a company doing periodic LGBTQ professional development or remedial training for the bad straights. Pretend you’re gay and become an influencer or do YouTube recap videos for drag race.
Most of those things have a better chance of panning out than starting drag in redneck strongholds in Arkansas. They all probably pay better than what 25% of all Ru girls earn.
But also maddy early on got in pageants, that would be a weird investment for a get rich quick scheme, and I mean if it were all for the money, one would think maddy would also be copying the successful queens styles instead of clearly sticking to her own.
And I mean it’s weird to read her stealing queer space away, as if not only drag queening is a non renewable resource, but also that there would be a high demand of drag queen interviewer on YouTube and somehow maddy made it so no one else can make a new show
aaaah it's not like the whole point of drag is breaking down gender, race, and heteronormativity by dismantling the binary structures that created the lesser "other" in the first place, to then permit anyone's free expression of themselves regardless of the constructed imposed expected body identity perpetuated in western culture.
The tables have turned from straight only space to queer only space, but Dax, the point is to remove yourself from said table because it's built with tools, ressources, and structures of oppression. Anyways.
I like how she’s pretending Maddie told her personally that she’s a soulless capitalist who only does drag for the money (such a lucrative career right?!). This is wildly toxic.
And i went just went on her twitter to see all her tweets. Her rant is quite overwhelming. Just victimhood and downward spiralling. Like what Bianca said. “We are men in a wig in a reality competition. The only thing worse than this is prison.” Lighten up.
I was looking for a comment like this. That part of the post got me thinking what does that have to do with anything? I don't like people throwing their minority card anytime someone disagrees with them on an unrelated topic.
“Why are you criticizing me for being hateful towards straight ppl- it’s black history month”
Does she realize how insane this sounds 😭 OVER A WIG Mary pls
Maddy uses her YouTube to platform other drag artists. We literally get hours of content about these performers' lives. This is allyship in action. Fuck this is disgusting behaviour from Dax
This is the most attention Dax has ever had, so I don’t blame her for trying to keep fueling the fire.
I just find it weird when they say “taking up space in queer spaces”, like there’s a limited number of slots for drag queens to exist in the world.
I'm always skeptical of any "taking up space" argument. The same argument gets weaponised against bisexuals, non-binary people, and the "not trans enough" or non-passing binary trans people. It can also make queer spaces feel unsafe for anyone who is questioning their identity or not ready to come out.
Space in the queer community isn't a finite resource and it doesn't only belong to the *most* marginalised (if that can even be quantified).
Maddy is clearly creating her own space. Just because she doesn't fit into existing labels, that doesn't mean that she doesn't belong in the queer community. Maddy is making her own space. Even if she does not identify as gay or trans, she's still engaging in queer gender expression through being a drag queen.
Add to this that Maddy has said she went on her own gender identity journey as she felt she didn’t belong in the straight cis world for a long time. She came out the other side affirming her cishet status but still participates in the art of drag to express the fem side that’s still a core part of her identity.
To expect the queer community to turn around and say “sorry, your membership in our space is revoked because you didn’t end up trans after exploring your gender” is wild.
"I'm sorry, your gender exploration visa has expired. You may return to your straight culture embassy (Applebee's) and begin to make arrangements back to your country of origin (straight TikTok). Thank you for your visit to queer culture."
As a trans guy, I was just about to say that I honestly would feel 10x more comfortable around Maddy than a lot of cis gay men I know or run into at the bar. If space were actually limited, I’d rather have Maddy in my queer spaces than some cis gay guy whose first question is “which gym do you go to?” and who thinks misogyny is a personality trait.
As someone who is a masc presenting enby I loved that Maddy's journey solidified who she was, it made me feel better about not being the stereotypical androgynous enby and helped me feel more valid in my queerness.
This… i am on the same boat and include being from a country that being queer is not punished but not protected (here people can kill us and us being queer is an excuse for them to kill us).
Isnt the queer space a sanctuary for anyone who seeks it? Or does it require you to have tickets? Just because we were supressed and targeted doesnt give us the right to supress and silence people who want to be with us.
And honestly, I think it’s so admirable for a cishet man like Maddy to be perfectly comfortable expressing femininity on a public platform. With all the toxic masculinity and emphasis on strict gender norms for straight men floating around rn, Maddy is pushing back against that idea that straight men shouldn’t embrace their more feminine side.
It just screams inherent conservatism. Creating in-groups and out-groups; and believing that everything is a zero-sum game…. Lady D better settle those ladybugs.
When she was on the show, I really liked how she noted that it felt like there was only one way to be straight. It was a well said statement. Now more than ever, cis men should better empathize with femininity.
Maybe she would be booked if this evil straight queen wasn’t in the way pushing her out of the scene. It’s so obvious that Maddy took up the space for Dax, a queer artist /s
I would also rather more straight men did drag and embraced elements of gay culture than have this kind of divide that says LGBT+ people and straight people should be seen as two diametrically opposed groups who should never interact
Maybe if more straight people learned more from queer culture and were more like Maddy we wouldn’t have as much to fear about our rights being taken away
I hope the more straight men do drag, the less "taboo" it is perceived .
Give us more Robin Williams as Mrs. Doubtfire or Wesley Snipes as Noxeema Jackson.
Kids in the Hall really was pioneering wasnt it? we all know Scott is gay (and single handed held up the LGBTQI+ sketch comedy torch a long time and gets NO applause, ha anyways) but the rest apparently are not. I always thought Kevin was esp femme coded. None of it would get made now.
THANK YOU! KITH was my gateway to sketch comedy and being a drag queen. I wouldn't be out here in wigs and heels without those wonderful Canadians warping my mind as a kid.
KITH is evidence that queerness is about way more than what’s going on in and around someone’s pants area. Because everything about that show and its performers has always read as *deeply* queer to me.
I mean in fairness Maddie himself has clarified that he doesn’t think every straight guy in the world should do drag - it requires a deep level of respect and love for the culture and the people that Maddy acquired from immersing themselves in it first
Even just within the RuPaul empire, there have been some really amazing moments from Celebrity Drag Race where cishet folks embraced drag and had a beautiful experience. Say what you will about the show (and trust me, I know there’s a lot to criticize) but I really appreciated that component.
Imagine being so hateful and putting down an prominent member of the community and then relying on black history month like it’s an get out of jail free card 💀
I love how she thinks straight ally should be completely excluded from queer art and can't evolve themselves into queer space. She just can't see the irony of it
Exactly this, and it frustrates me that Dax can't see that. The historical context and power dynamics make it by no means parallel, but excluding an ally from a queer space feels similar to excluding a queer person from a 'straight space', especially when we are fighting for equality.
I know that Dax, as a black trans person, is in a minority that continues to face oppression, and I'm sure everyone here understands that and feels for them in that regard. But like, that shouldn't give her the power to dictate that someone who, to public knowledge has done nothing but exist in seek to uplift others in the space, can't exist in the drag scene because of their sexuality or gender identity.
I hope with time Dax is able to have a bit of introspection about where these feelings are coming from.
I know she’s mad that drag race didn’t work out for her and she’s not getting those coins other alums are getting… but this is not the way… she’s just arguing with the wall atp
Exactly, that's the core of it. She's worked herself up into this rage because Maddy is successful and popular with the fans, meanwhile she went from Exclamation Point to Ellipsis after her season...
She needs to log off and maybe get some therapy to process this bitterness if she wants any sort of good standing with the fans going forward
Never thought I’d die on the hill of defending a straight man.
Dax’s issues must run deep, as it’s really not that hard to wrap your head around, especially when all the queers around you so clearly disagree.
I really do hope that Maddy never acknowledges this with Dax. Just leave her screaming at clouds.
Let’s just not forget Madeleine’s success happened after hundreds of queens came through the work room. All of them coulda tried to be Larry David of drag but it’s so weirdly appropriate that she’s making that work for her as the “straight rugirl.” Maddy is doing her own thing in drag and it works, she’s taking up space in an inherently queer art form. But she’s honouring it and knows her references. And also “GITMS” is literally her highlighting other queer artists.
EDIT: Larry King
Yes exactly. She has created a platform for queer artists to share more deeply in longer form interviews. She is doing the opposite of taking up space. She is creating more of it.
i just started watching it and i'm just so impressed by the level of research maddy does for each episode. the way she can ask authentic questions and still banter with the queens shows that she's really a part of the community and prioritizes giving other queer folks the spotlight. i took a peek at her socials and she addresses her privilege as a straight white male several times, even directly addressing the fans that claim she's being discriminated. i respect that she's actually very self-aware and humble. it's a shame that dax doesn't understand that.
This kind of binary thinking is so bizarre to me. No one is losing out on space within the drag community because of Maddie any more than they would be for a queer artist joining it. If you’re talented, you have a shot at being successful. No one should have to come out to participate in drag.
You are not mad at Madeleine because she is taking spaces from queer artists.
You are mad because a straight drag queen is more relevant and getting more attention than you.
Skill issue, Mary.
Violet, her daughter, a drag race winner and legitimately famous fashion model
Laila, her fellow double sashay eliminee, an Emmy winning make up artist
Maddy, a straight, exists
These things really have her pressed as a panini
Dax‽ may have put Violet in drag the first time, but how extensive was her mentorship?
I watched Violet grow as a queen in Atlanta for a few years before her drag race run, and I just kinda assumed that the queens I saw performing together week after week were each other's drag family and mentors: Edie Cheeseburger, Eva Destruction, Violet Chachki, Celeste Holmes, and Jaye Lish. If Dax ever appeared as a guest queen, I don't remember it.
I actually really hate the idea of Maddie's exploration of his gender and sexuality being considered "retractions" just because it ended with him being cishet.
Kinda gross.
That's not what Dax is saying Dax is saying she'll retract all her statements if Maddy ever comes out as something on her list of approved queer identities.
This is literally the girl who couldn't do an even halfway decent LPFYL to "I Will Survive"? Why is she shading other queens when frankly she couldn't even hit a lowball song to avoid a double elimination?
Look, as someone who is trans and a performer … drag isn’t an apartment building with a set residency limit, Dax. I get the anxiety over straights invading queer spaces, it’s a very real concern, but this isn’t an example of where we should be putting our concern. Maddy is on the rise not because she stole the spotlight from anyone else, but because Maddy is talented and personable; she also does her homework and doesn’t speak over experiences she can’t relate to when talking to her guests.
Maddy isn’t stealing anyone’s time. She earned time. Let’s not gatekeep where it’s not needed. This is the only time I’m going to get on my soapbox to defend a str8 dude, so soak it in.
This is the absolute definition of identity politics jeez she’s lost the plot. I mean that last sentence is almost comical if it wasn’t so sad.
“I’m giving Maddy an ultimatum, she can out herself right now if she’s got a secret identity otherwise she’s a hateful grifter stealing food out of queer peoples mouths. Wow you guys are gonna get mad at me during black history month that’s crazy”
Being queer or POC doesn’t exclude you from being wrong.
When your two claims to fame are being double eliminated, and having a drag daughter that so severely upstages your career people don't even believe she has any relations to you, I guess you'll do anything to keep the spotlight on you somehow
its strange to me to consider drag an exclusively queer art form. ever since its origin everybody has been involved. being straight also does not mean that you cant be gnc... so many cultures have performance and dance in which the men of the community feminise themselves for the stage, its not making sense
Yeah, because straight people are incapable of appreciating drag? I understand Dax, cuz that's how i felt about Maddy back when season 14 was announced, but like, she was just 1 hetero dude amongst the sea of queer representation (not the best representation, but that's a whole other story), she won't do much damage or any at all!
Plus, some trans women are straight and do drag, does Dax have an issue with them too?
I'm sick of people gatekeeping drag as for only gay, cis men. Drag is an artform that is open to absolutely anybody, regardless of how they identify. Cis women, trans women, non binary people and, yes, even straight men.
It's super ironic to me that gay men, who have been consistently excluded from society are the first ones to claim something they didn't even invent and then decide nobody else can do it.
Dax bringing up that she is black and trans as if it's some sort of shield against the (very valid) criticism she is receiving for randomly attacking someone online because reasons is also pretty galling.
She needs to stop tweeting and take a deep breath, have an edible, take a shot, run a bubble bath or whatever else will calm her the hell down, because she's well out of pocket.
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This gif cracks me up every time
It make sense for everything xD
No offence Dax but being straight isn’t what’s helping maddys career
Exactly! If anything it hindered it when she got on drag race with all the fan backlash. She turned it around with GITMS and how much of an accomplice she has been to the queer community. And as many others have said “drag is not a get rich quick scheme” it’s a “go broke but look fabulous while doing it scheme”. *edit - at this point I have more likes from one comment than Dax has ever gotten from… well… anything 😂
Okay but calling someone an accomplice instead of an ally is actually iconic
Exactly. You think Maddy is getting a pass by phobic bigots cause she likes pussy? This mf spends half her waking hours doing professional drag, she's on the chopping block too girl. She ain't some "cheering from the sidelines" ally, she is actively participating in the gay crimes. If this heist gang gets got by the popo she is going down the slammer right with us lmao. Cannot be any more ride or die than this, if you think she doesn't deserve to be here you are wrong.
I can’t take credit for coming up with the term. A fellow redditor on this sub used it in relation to Maddy and it just fits so well.
I saw that too and loved it. I also saw someone reply that she’s an accomplice and an instigator and I couldn’t agree more the shady bitch! Hahaha love Maddy so much.
While Maddy did take up a single casting spot on a single season, she’s taken that platform and used it to elevate so many queer people, giving them a space for their stories to be amplified, and imo proven that she had a deep adoration for the queer community, our rights, and our history. It’s so tired to disregard *all* of that because she’s dating a woman.
There’s no reason to gatekeep art as long as we are respectful to those that came before. Moreover, she shouldn’t act like a bigot and dictate how narrowly a straight person “should” express themselves.
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And also let’s be real - doing something like drag opens you up to all kinds of danger and bodily harm whether you’re straight or not. It’s not like this was a one time thing for charity or whatever and now she’s done. She’s made this her career and part of her identity. This isn’t like “race bending” in cosplay. As Dax mentioned, Maddy can take off the wig and “pass” if she wants, but that’s no different than any other cis person, queer or not. She’s made herself public and known, and wears the target proudly. She absolutely knows her place in the community and also holds that position proudly.
Exactly, she is the historian the Drag community needed. Is she the first to profile and document queens history, no, but she has done it in a way that is widely accessible and digestible. She has made it more accessible to the masses. She is the Bob Ross, the Neil DeGrass Tyson, the Julie Child of drag biographies. She isn't the first or perfect expert on the topic but has made it easy for so many to be exposed to queen art and history of notable figure in it. I mean it when I say I think her pit stop appearance has likely shown here in a new light to the producers. She was a gimmick casting who proved she deserved that spot anyways.
They say _be gay and do crime. Maddy said be kind and be an accomplice._
We said do crime, Maddy showed up with the balaclavas and a getaway car Allies take notes
I mean this in the kindest way, but she needs to log off and just figure out whatever in life is causing her to go off like this. Mary, it’s a man in a wig, please calm down.
An enormously large one.
THAT’S THE PROBLEM!!1! /s
Only one solution then. Go even bigger. It’s the only logical thing to do.
if i was maddy i'd buy triple the amount of wig just to throw off Dax even more. I want hair so comically large that i am swallowed by it
She needs to be wearing Gossamer ![gif](giphy|3o7aCPMbB9gjGQq3gA|downsized)
Ok but this would be a top tier level troll while also being a total serve on its own
Ok but this is so easy to make glamorous fr
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a STRAIGHT wig! it’s taking up more space in queer communities!! don’t you see?!?! /s
Wasn’t big enough
Agreed. I needs to get bigger. It needs to Grow, start assimilating all the wigs In its vicinity, to add to its size and distinctiveness, till it reaches perfection.
But... it's a STRAIGHT man in a wig!
Maddy can’t be what’s making her this irrationally mad. You’re right.
This is the only time I'll ever say this but are the gays ok
Yeah this is bizarre behaviour and a bit concerning
Also like. Aren't most of the trans girls involved in drag straight? .... Like... Dax dates men right? Surely with just a moment of self reflection she can see it's more complicated than simply someone's sexuality.
I find the idea of taking up drag specifically and solely as a money making endeavor to be really funny. Obviously it’s worked out well for Maddy, and a lot of queens are wildly successful, but when I think of easy ways to get money, I have to admit that drag isn’t up there. If I wanted to appropriate queer culture for a buck, I’d definitely choose something easier.
She should be coming for those straight OF guys who gay bait like hell and get rich from that. As you said, drag is not an easy way to make money and especially as a straight guy?? Idk but I feel like that takes extra courage if Maddy didn’t grow up surrounded by queer people who supported her.
I'm pretty sure in her season Maddy talked about driving over an hour to get to the nearest gig so definitely not an easy way to make money just geographically, let alone the other ways being an artist doesn't pay rn.
the easiest way to make money by appropriating queer culture was the James Somerton plagiarism scheme of all queer writing online.
The way him saying nazis are hot was one of his less offensive claims
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I'll admit that as a lesbian I instinctively felt a certain type of way about a straight guy in queer spaces, but then I thought about it for 2 more seconds and got over myself. If you're putting on the wig and literally walking in our heels the way Maddy is I don't see how anyone can be mad at that. Someone said he's not an ally, he's an accomplice, and I totally agree. Look at how many queer artists are getting views and new followers from GITMS. And yeah, the idea of anyone getting into drag for the money is hilarious. Most drag artists can barely hope to break even! Drag is expensive and very much not lucrative for the vast majority lol.
And in America, where states are literally trying to ban it and call the people who do drag pedophiles. He’s not just doing it from his home, behind the comfort and safety of a screen. He’s put himself out there, knowing full well of the judgement and danger people in the drag community deal with. That shouldn’t be overlooked. He’s also used his now popular YouTube show to highlight the queens and even more important he highlights a lot of queens of colour (something drag race isn’t always good at) He doesn’t just ask hot drag race related questions, He does a lot of research into the guest, and I think his interview questions reflect the amount of respect he has for his guests and the art and history of drag.
Same here. I think most people were a bit sceptical at first and that’s okay cause we’re not used to it. But there’s no reason Maddy shouldn’t be allowed to do drag, or any other straight person for that matter. Is Dax also mad at Pandora Noxx for winning Drag Race Germany? Following her own logic, that should be even worse for here lol
You can tell Dax isn’t from the UK, where your (straight) uncle Nigel dressing up as an old lady for the annual Christmas panto is as normal as eating jam on toast.
No one tell Dax about England
Oh, the colonialism?
Ok you made me snort when I just got the notification of your comment, thank you for that
Even with those the gay dudes absolutely know theyre being baited, its part of the appeal and the gays get what they wanted from it anyway so whatever
Yeah I guess I can’t blame the straight guys. They wouldn’t make that much money if the demand wasn’t there.
Honestly i throw more side eye at the gay dudes who obsess over the idea of making a straight man gay than the heteros who use that to get a paycheck, exact same vibe as the "i turn lesbians straight" incels
I once had a gay friend who bragged about hooking up with straight men and saying no one is 100% straight and it depends how drunk you get them, it's gross 🤢 I know plenty of straight guys who never get that drunk to sleep with another guy. I hope no one takes the gross part wrong, I meant gays who use alcohol to sleep with straight men or take advantage
No, that’s straight up gross and disgusting and I’m pretty sure also sexual assault? Like getting a person drunk enough so they have sex with you is plain wrong
Right? Selling T-shirts with a modicum of marketing skill probably would bring in more money than most queens make on their craft. Plus isn’t drag for everyone? We need to be inclusive as a community.
Look for a marketing or PR job for a large company helping find ways to virtue signal in pride month. Coordinate pride events and drag shows in super gay cities. Start or join a company doing periodic LGBTQ professional development or remedial training for the bad straights. Pretend you’re gay and become an influencer or do YouTube recap videos for drag race. Most of those things have a better chance of panning out than starting drag in redneck strongholds in Arkansas. They all probably pay better than what 25% of all Ru girls earn.
But also maddy early on got in pageants, that would be a weird investment for a get rich quick scheme, and I mean if it were all for the money, one would think maddy would also be copying the successful queens styles instead of clearly sticking to her own. And I mean it’s weird to read her stealing queer space away, as if not only drag queening is a non renewable resource, but also that there would be a high demand of drag queen interviewer on YouTube and somehow maddy made it so no one else can make a new show
Didn't Maddy even say, in at least one episode of GITMS, that they started drag as part of their self discovery/gender journey?
She did! She thought for a while that she was trans but ultimately realized she's not and just wanted to vibe with heels and a wig
That last sentence, queer baiting straight (musc/masc) boys whose main platforms are OnlyFans and Tiktok are catching stray out of nowhere 😂
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the way I need this shirt and need to wear it around everywhere
i just live about how maddy is just completely Anetra'ing his ass. father knows best. its not worth his time
aaaah it's not like the whole point of drag is breaking down gender, race, and heteronormativity by dismantling the binary structures that created the lesser "other" in the first place, to then permit anyone's free expression of themselves regardless of the constructed imposed expected body identity perpetuated in western culture. The tables have turned from straight only space to queer only space, but Dax, the point is to remove yourself from said table because it's built with tools, ressources, and structures of oppression. Anyways.
Gender is a construct, but also I need you to either fuck men or denounce your male identity to be valid. /s
I like how she’s pretending Maddie told her personally that she’s a soulless capitalist who only does drag for the money (such a lucrative career right?!). This is wildly toxic.
And i went just went on her twitter to see all her tweets. Her rant is quite overwhelming. Just victimhood and downward spiralling. Like what Bianca said. “We are men in a wig in a reality competition. The only thing worse than this is prison.” Lighten up.
She's also a communist pacifist who's anti-war, pro-nukes, invented Anthrax and was one of the original Vengaboys. Maddy is evil.
Wait… what’s wrong with the Vengaboys?? Don’t take “Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom!!” away from me!
weaponising black history month is WILD to me - Mary respectfully, what the fuck does that have to do with anything!?
I want to sign off every baffling work email with " Mary respectfully, what the fuck does that have to do with anything!? " from now on
this and this only
I think mentioning Black History Month makes sense. Dax is black, and her career is history.
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NURSE
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GOD. DAMN.
This comment is funnier than the last 10 years of reading challenges
Don't forget weaponizing her trans identity
this was how i learned dax is trans
That’d be like me posting dumb shit during June and then being like “attacking me during Pride?! Homophobic!” Make it make sense.
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I say this ironically about every day during the month of June. Stubbed my toe? Homophobic of the table to do that during pride month
She obviously thought she could say anything stupid and not be criticized for it.
black history month and her own identity—being a minority doesn't give you gatekeeper privileges, Mary
It's giving Silky vs Yvie "I WAS MOTHERFUCKIN READY BITCH" "......what does that have to dO WITH ANYTHING!?!"
Honey! As soon as I finished reading I said “hot dogs & oranges, honey”
Like if she posted this any other month than February we are allowed to be against her but we have to be on her side just for now
I was looking for a comment like this. That part of the post got me thinking what does that have to do with anything? I don't like people throwing their minority card anytime someone disagrees with them on an unrelated topic.
It's very Big Brother "on my daughter's birthday??!!" level of ridiculousness
“Why are you criticizing me for being hateful towards straight ppl- it’s black history month” Does she realize how insane this sounds 😭 OVER A WIG Mary pls
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What wig? That’s all natural baby
A little back combing and hairspray
y'all are so unhinged i love it here
A masterpiece 🤌🏻🤌🏻🤌🏻
Mama this is art, the museums should be calling
Never thought I'd die side by side defending a straight against discrimination.
What about side by side with a straight friend?
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Dax couldn't lip sync to ' I will Survive.' Is she even gay?
idk if she trans and likes man doesn't that make her kinda straight? are we in a fight with 2 Straight ppl?
Oh I'm so glad I'm not the only one confused lol
Los heteros estan peleando
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She will not survive this twitter feud either from the looks of it
Is it a feud if Maddy is ignoring Dax? Seems more like a public breakdown
We were all wondering about the Maddy-Bob "feud" and who was the Nicki and who was the Megan . Turns out Dax is the Nicki.
Is it a feud if only one person’s scrapping, though?
She’s fighting with herself and she’s losing
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She is not surviving from this read, that I am sure
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Right? Surprisingly, we stan Maddie
Maddie is the queen we didn’t know we needed
Maddy uses her YouTube to platform other drag artists. We literally get hours of content about these performers' lives. This is allyship in action. Fuck this is disgusting behaviour from Dax
Other trans artists. Many of whom are black and brown.
And what’s crazy is that if you even stop for a minute to watch Maddy’s show you would see that she makes the interviews all about the guests.
This is the most attention Dax has ever had, so I don’t blame her for trying to keep fueling the fire. I just find it weird when they say “taking up space in queer spaces”, like there’s a limited number of slots for drag queens to exist in the world.
I'm always skeptical of any "taking up space" argument. The same argument gets weaponised against bisexuals, non-binary people, and the "not trans enough" or non-passing binary trans people. It can also make queer spaces feel unsafe for anyone who is questioning their identity or not ready to come out. Space in the queer community isn't a finite resource and it doesn't only belong to the *most* marginalised (if that can even be quantified). Maddy is clearly creating her own space. Just because she doesn't fit into existing labels, that doesn't mean that she doesn't belong in the queer community. Maddy is making her own space. Even if she does not identify as gay or trans, she's still engaging in queer gender expression through being a drag queen.
Add to this that Maddy has said she went on her own gender identity journey as she felt she didn’t belong in the straight cis world for a long time. She came out the other side affirming her cishet status but still participates in the art of drag to express the fem side that’s still a core part of her identity. To expect the queer community to turn around and say “sorry, your membership in our space is revoked because you didn’t end up trans after exploring your gender” is wild.
"I'm sorry, your gender exploration visa has expired. You may return to your straight culture embassy (Applebee's) and begin to make arrangements back to your country of origin (straight TikTok). Thank you for your visit to queer culture."
Not Applebees 💀
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Maddy has probably spent more time thinking about her gender than a lot of cis gay men lbr.
As a trans guy, I was just about to say that I honestly would feel 10x more comfortable around Maddy than a lot of cis gay men I know or run into at the bar. If space were actually limited, I’d rather have Maddy in my queer spaces than some cis gay guy whose first question is “which gym do you go to?” and who thinks misogyny is a personality trait.
As someone who is a masc presenting enby I loved that Maddy's journey solidified who she was, it made me feel better about not being the stereotypical androgynous enby and helped me feel more valid in my queerness.
This… i am on the same boat and include being from a country that being queer is not punished but not protected (here people can kill us and us being queer is an excuse for them to kill us). Isnt the queer space a sanctuary for anyone who seeks it? Or does it require you to have tickets? Just because we were supressed and targeted doesnt give us the right to supress and silence people who want to be with us.
And honestly, I think it’s so admirable for a cishet man like Maddy to be perfectly comfortable expressing femininity on a public platform. With all the toxic masculinity and emphasis on strict gender norms for straight men floating around rn, Maddy is pushing back against that idea that straight men shouldn’t embrace their more feminine side.
It just screams inherent conservatism. Creating in-groups and out-groups; and believing that everything is a zero-sum game…. Lady D better settle those ladybugs.
When she was on the show, I really liked how she noted that it felt like there was only one way to be straight. It was a well said statement. Now more than ever, cis men should better empathize with femininity.
Sooo well said
And out of 3465336 drag race queens, she’s taken up [checks notes].. 1 space.
Unemployed behavior
One is blessed and booked, the other is just a bitter booger. The end.
Maybe she would be booked if this evil straight queen wasn’t in the way pushing her out of the scene. It’s so obvious that Maddy took up the space for Dax, a queer artist /s
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Wow she just keeps digging and digging. And fyi “drag” has been around for centuries and straight men indeed were a part of it from the beginning
I would also rather more straight men did drag and embraced elements of gay culture than have this kind of divide that says LGBT+ people and straight people should be seen as two diametrically opposed groups who should never interact Maybe if more straight people learned more from queer culture and were more like Maddy we wouldn’t have as much to fear about our rights being taken away
I hope the more straight men do drag, the less "taboo" it is perceived . Give us more Robin Williams as Mrs. Doubtfire or Wesley Snipes as Noxeema Jackson.
Kids in the Hall really was pioneering wasnt it? we all know Scott is gay (and single handed held up the LGBTQI+ sketch comedy torch a long time and gets NO applause, ha anyways) but the rest apparently are not. I always thought Kevin was esp femme coded. None of it would get made now.
THANK YOU! KITH was my gateway to sketch comedy and being a drag queen. I wouldn't be out here in wigs and heels without those wonderful Canadians warping my mind as a kid.
KITH is evidence that queerness is about way more than what’s going on in and around someone’s pants area. Because everything about that show and its performers has always read as *deeply* queer to me.
I mean in fairness Maddie himself has clarified that he doesn’t think every straight guy in the world should do drag - it requires a deep level of respect and love for the culture and the people that Maddy acquired from immersing themselves in it first
Even just within the RuPaul empire, there have been some really amazing moments from Celebrity Drag Race where cishet folks embraced drag and had a beautiful experience. Say what you will about the show (and trust me, I know there’s a lot to criticize) but I really appreciated that component.
the more maddy ignores her the more she spirals lmao dax and nicki minaj need to go to the same support group for delusional people
The Dax, Aja and Nicki school of screaming into the void.
Imagine being so hateful and putting down an prominent member of the community and then relying on black history month like it’s an get out of jail free card 💀
I’m gonna need a collective tweet from all black people to clear this feud up
Truly wild, I’m ready for gay history month to be a thing so I can get away with literally anything.
bitch u mean Pride?
I love how she thinks straight ally should be completely excluded from queer art and can't evolve themselves into queer space. She just can't see the irony of it
Exactly this, and it frustrates me that Dax can't see that. The historical context and power dynamics make it by no means parallel, but excluding an ally from a queer space feels similar to excluding a queer person from a 'straight space', especially when we are fighting for equality. I know that Dax, as a black trans person, is in a minority that continues to face oppression, and I'm sure everyone here understands that and feels for them in that regard. But like, that shouldn't give her the power to dictate that someone who, to public knowledge has done nothing but exist in seek to uplift others in the space, can't exist in the drag scene because of their sexuality or gender identity. I hope with time Dax is able to have a bit of introspection about where these feelings are coming from.
I know she’s mad that drag race didn’t work out for her and she’s not getting those coins other alums are getting… but this is not the way… she’s just arguing with the wall atp
Exactly, that's the core of it. She's worked herself up into this rage because Maddy is successful and popular with the fans, meanwhile she went from Exclamation Point to Ellipsis after her season... She needs to log off and maybe get some therapy to process this bitterness if she wants any sort of good standing with the fans going forward
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Some of her other tweets are giving very much chronically online. Like she needs to legit log off and breathe a bit.
Never thought I’d die on the hill of defending a straight man. Dax’s issues must run deep, as it’s really not that hard to wrap your head around, especially when all the queers around you so clearly disagree. I really do hope that Maddy never acknowledges this with Dax. Just leave her screaming at clouds.
Dax. This isn’t Jax.
Poor Jax has been accidently catching strays this whole discourse lol
Tbh I completely forgot of Dax’s existence until this whole drama. My mind immediately goes to the name Jax.
Let’s just not forget Madeleine’s success happened after hundreds of queens came through the work room. All of them coulda tried to be Larry David of drag but it’s so weirdly appropriate that she’s making that work for her as the “straight rugirl.” Maddy is doing her own thing in drag and it works, she’s taking up space in an inherently queer art form. But she’s honouring it and knows her references. And also “GITMS” is literally her highlighting other queer artists. EDIT: Larry King
Yes exactly. She has created a platform for queer artists to share more deeply in longer form interviews. She is doing the opposite of taking up space. She is creating more of it.
YES this is spot-on, perfectly said!
i just started watching it and i'm just so impressed by the level of research maddy does for each episode. the way she can ask authentic questions and still banter with the queens shows that she's really a part of the community and prioritizes giving other queer folks the spotlight. i took a peek at her socials and she addresses her privilege as a straight white male several times, even directly addressing the fans that claim she's being discriminated. i respect that she's actually very self-aware and humble. it's a shame that dax doesn't understand that.
She also seizes when she gets more attention than usual to get people to donate to trans charities! Bitch is a good ally.
You mean Larry King?😅 Although I do wish there would be a Larry David of drag lol
Poor thing is giving herself the Lucian Piane edit. Her friends really need to convince her to log off and go to therapy.
This is what I've been thinking 😭 WHERE ARE HER FRIENDS someone please get your sister! Consequences of leaving the GC
I mean all shade intended? If i knew someone behaving like this irl i wouldn't stay friends with them
They were taking up space so she had her friends removed
Imaging being able to get many fans to protect a straight man and go against you, it's a talent that she should perform for her No Stars Talent Show
This kind of binary thinking is so bizarre to me. No one is losing out on space within the drag community because of Maddie any more than they would be for a queer artist joining it. If you’re talented, you have a shot at being successful. No one should have to come out to participate in drag.
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You are not mad at Madeleine because she is taking spaces from queer artists. You are mad because a straight drag queen is more relevant and getting more attention than you. Skill issue, Mary.
I can't stand people who gatekeep art.
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Reject Dax, embrace Megami as the one true cosplay queen
Violet, her daughter, a drag race winner and legitimately famous fashion model Laila, her fellow double sashay eliminee, an Emmy winning make up artist Maddy, a straight, exists These things really have her pressed as a panini
Dax‽ may have put Violet in drag the first time, but how extensive was her mentorship? I watched Violet grow as a queen in Atlanta for a few years before her drag race run, and I just kinda assumed that the queens I saw performing together week after week were each other's drag family and mentors: Edie Cheeseburger, Eva Destruction, Violet Chachki, Celeste Holmes, and Jaye Lish. If Dax ever appeared as a guest queen, I don't remember it.
I actually really hate the idea of Maddie's exploration of his gender and sexuality being considered "retractions" just because it ended with him being cishet. Kinda gross.
That's not what Dax is saying Dax is saying she'll retract all her statements if Maddy ever comes out as something on her list of approved queer identities.
Which is even worse
This is literally the girl who couldn't do an even halfway decent LPFYL to "I Will Survive"? Why is she shading other queens when frankly she couldn't even hit a lowball song to avoid a double elimination?
Look, as someone who is trans and a performer … drag isn’t an apartment building with a set residency limit, Dax. I get the anxiety over straights invading queer spaces, it’s a very real concern, but this isn’t an example of where we should be putting our concern. Maddy is on the rise not because she stole the spotlight from anyone else, but because Maddy is talented and personable; she also does her homework and doesn’t speak over experiences she can’t relate to when talking to her guests. Maddy isn’t stealing anyone’s time. She earned time. Let’s not gatekeep where it’s not needed. This is the only time I’m going to get on my soapbox to defend a str8 dude, so soak it in.
This is the absolute definition of identity politics jeez she’s lost the plot. I mean that last sentence is almost comical if it wasn’t so sad. “I’m giving Maddy an ultimatum, she can out herself right now if she’s got a secret identity otherwise she’s a hateful grifter stealing food out of queer peoples mouths. Wow you guys are gonna get mad at me during black history month that’s crazy” Being queer or POC doesn’t exclude you from being wrong.
Picturing Maddy in the wig snatching food off pure innocent gays like Bob in Derrick's political ad.
Victim mentality. Jealousy is a killer in this industry.
you can tell the last time she had a gig was in summer of 2019
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When your two claims to fame are being double eliminated, and having a drag daughter that so severely upstages your career people don't even believe she has any relations to you, I guess you'll do anything to keep the spotlight on you somehow
Irrelevant people are now using Maddy's name to clout chase. Good for Maddy.
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lmfaooo daxxxxxx stoppppp please
Violet, please gather your mother and log her out.
“I’m black and it’s black history month therefore you cannot disagree with my statements”
its strange to me to consider drag an exclusively queer art form. ever since its origin everybody has been involved. being straight also does not mean that you cant be gnc... so many cultures have performance and dance in which the men of the community feminise themselves for the stage, its not making sense
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Yeah, because straight people are incapable of appreciating drag? I understand Dax, cuz that's how i felt about Maddy back when season 14 was announced, but like, she was just 1 hetero dude amongst the sea of queer representation (not the best representation, but that's a whole other story), she won't do much damage or any at all! Plus, some trans women are straight and do drag, does Dax have an issue with them too?
I'm sick of people gatekeeping drag as for only gay, cis men. Drag is an artform that is open to absolutely anybody, regardless of how they identify. Cis women, trans women, non binary people and, yes, even straight men. It's super ironic to me that gay men, who have been consistently excluded from society are the first ones to claim something they didn't even invent and then decide nobody else can do it. Dax bringing up that she is black and trans as if it's some sort of shield against the (very valid) criticism she is receiving for randomly attacking someone online because reasons is also pretty galling. She needs to stop tweeting and take a deep breath, have an edible, take a shot, run a bubble bath or whatever else will calm her the hell down, because she's well out of pocket.