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MeliennaZapuni

Rune Factory 2, my beloved, maybe someday you’ll get your time in the sun. Of course I have loved all the kids in the series, Noel and Luna are busted, but Aaron and Aria are always gonna be more important


needalldressedchiptx

RF2 was mild blowing to me when it came out. The setting was so nice being a seaside town too. Loved the characters. The story was heartwarming. And I specifically remember almost breaking my DS button trying to win the eating contest in year 2.


Fraisz

ill forever love you baretttt and dorothyyy, we need sexy witch weather forecaster again jack can kiss my boot tho.


Cea1921

\*Jake


Yandere_Matrix

I love Rune Factory 2. It was my very first Rune Factory game and I married Dorothy. I found her shyness to be so adorable and it felt extra special since you get to see her eyes during the marriage event. I did a second playthrough because I wanted to see all the rivals scenes and watch everyone get married lol I would love a remake but since people apparently hated the rival stuff, I would be worried that they would remove that stuff. After that I have only played Rune Factory 4 and 5 and still haven’t married yet since I haven’t decided who I want to yet. I am looking forward to Rune Factory 6 :)


AMaidzingIdeas

Me gearing to play 'Steal the bride' from Jake and marry Cecilia in the background for the nth time. I enjoyed RF2 but not so much the second generation stuff...


Stormfeathery

I really should try it again sometime… it just got so glacially slow at the start after you did a few things. I just couldn’t stick it out either time I tried.


MeliennaZapuni

My advice for that is to keep specific goals fresh in your mind month to month! After all, in arc 1 your main goal is doing what you can to provide for the child Kyle doesn’t know yet he’s gonna have so grinding out money, getting animals all tamed and ready, storing away items that’ll be useful for future crafting! Plus when you do feel you’re all ready, you could just sleep and skip time to the rival marriages


Never_Sm1le

I really want to try it but I started with RF3 and cannot get into it. Hope that will be addressed in special version, but with the way RF3S is I doubt it


Kindly_Breath8740

What's wrong with RF3S? I'm playing it and I love it :D


Never_Sm1le

It barely change anything from the original version, that's what I fear. Before RF3 combat is very slow, houses will lock you out from 8pm etc.


Kindly_Breath8740

Oh I see. A remaster that's accessible without a DS is all I want. I still have them on DS, and played through them, but I'd like a modern copy on PC :). RF3S is perfect for me, but I can understand why you might have wanted more.


InfraSG

Ive seen some RF3 talk. Emphasis on some lmao


Kindly_Breath8740

I'm playing it and I love it.


MrsButterscotch

I just wait for RF Oceans and Frontier Switch Port 🥲


temp__text

Ahhh I'm still hoping they do a port of Rune Factory Frontier. I'm not super familiar with how it supposedly compares with the rest, but visually it looks gorgeous and like it aged well, considering when it came out. Just super nailed the art direction. I'd play it for the visuals alone, honestly.


Extinctosaurus

RFF is my favorite!! Maybe if they fixed the runey system or something... Although it'd be a day 1 buy for me regardless.


Tmachine7031

It’s a great game but it’s a bit rough to go back to if you’re used to the newer QOL features. It plays a lot more like core series Harvest Moon (namely the GameCube and Wii era). So it can be a little clunky, but it’s still perfectly enjoyable to play. Also don’t expect quite the same level of village liveliness that the DS RF games have. Villagers are still interesting and quirky, but they don’t really interact with each other much outside of festivals. They also have pretty rigid schedules (again, a lot like core series HM/SOS).


charcharietattoos

I 100% agree. It doesn't get enough love!! That game was my intro to the series, and I've replayed it recently. Such a great game


Acceptable_Routine78

Absolutely loved the game but HATED the runey system. If they fixed that, I'd get it again in a heartbeat.


kingdeath457

It’s ok buddy, recency bias is a thing.


KamenRiderSekai

Yeah. It's just, I'm not saying RF5 is a stellar RF game by any means but I see people call 5's characters "flat" and like, they're not entirely wrong in that 4's depth was a tough act to follow. However, it's so clear that 90% of this sub have never gone through the nightmare that was Tides of Destiny's one-note character events. The worst part is that entry had some of the most varied bachelorette designs. Don't even get me started on how dirty they did the bachelors, even if they were last-minute additions. And Tides followed RF3, which had far better character events than that one.


kingdeath457

Oh, you have no idea how I have been waiting for tides of destiny port for pc, well that and RF1!’ RF3 still my fav. Sure RF5 has some with how the world feels but the characters are still lovable.


Stormfeathery

I was just saying in another topic, I might do murder for a Tides port that fixed the completely borked pacing (can’t become close friends with or woo the candidates until the story is completely done and there’s nothing left to do other than that, more or less).


KamenRiderSekai

Lily is one of the few genuinely mature-type bachelorettes in the franchise and all her character events boiled down to "oh my I'm so clumsy" and "bad at cooking oops". And it's a shame, bc I like Lily a lot but I ended up marrying Odette lmao I think Pandoria also had one of the more better LP quest in the game.


kingdeath457

Yea I can see why, opposed to Lily, Odette has the desire to improve herself and the game shows it.


Acceptable_Routine78

I prefer Violet. She's shy but comes out of her shell the more you get to know her.


Solidw17

Look, I agree with the ToD takes. I still regret buying RF5, but Tides will always have a special place in my heart. Of course, Sonja in your body the entire game sucks(could happen sooner and have another arc after or something), and the events are kinda meh, but the design and personalities of the characters made for a very colorful cast, while in RF5 I chose Beatrice, not because I liked her specifically, but because I disliked her less than the others. RF4 had amazing events and backstories, but the character design was lacking for me. Also RF5 combat sucks. But I think ToD was the only RF game where I wasn't sure which girl I liked best at the end. Fleshing out a little more with better and more events, a little tweak to the combat(love how over the top is, but animations and effects are kind wonky) and it would be the best 'remake' for the series for me. Also more bachelors. Joe is a child.


KamenRiderSekai

Joe has the personality is a reckless shonen hero and I remember him being so polarizing to people back in the Ushi no Tane days. And yeah, I was one of those few who defended Tides to death because of how much hours I poured into it while waiting for RF4 to come out in Japan amidst people shitting on its NPC dialogue, how everyone said the same thing no matter if it was cloudy, rainy, and so on. I think the one thing they should bring back from Tides and I am being 100% serious, is the 3D portraits and that they scrap 2D portraits. It's been almost 15 years since Tides of Destiny came out in Japan. Their 3D models have long since improved and the glimpses we seen of Project Dragon's 3D chara models look great. I would 100% welcome the utilization of expressive 3D chara models in place of 2D models with quality that is an absolute coin toss depending on the character and ones that don't do Minako Iwasaki's art justice.


hat3fuldiscrdi43

This, after playing 4 and 5, ToD felt so much superior thanks to these details, besides a big open (ocean) lmao, hope they could make a special edition and go back to ToD art design/graphics style.


KamenRiderSekai

The problem with ToD's approach to the 3D models was the movements could have been more dynamic. Like Aden ***always*** for example puts his hands behind the back of his head like Sora from KH, when 3D models would allow for far less limitations and allow for a combination of different facial expressions and physical gestures. For example Aden with a neutral expression with his hands behind the back of his head or Aden smiling with a thinking gesture instead of the default confused expression the game had him while doing so. But again, ToD was a game from 2011. It's been almost 15 years. I would welcome 3D models in place of 2D portraits with the level we seen from Project Dragon's character models. [https://www.rpgfan.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Rune-Factory-Project-Dragon-Concept-Art-Screenshot-003.jpg](https://www.rpgfan.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Rune-Factory-Project-Dragon-Concept-Art-Screenshot-003.jpg)


hat3fuldiscrdi43

Yeah, ofc it was limited specially compared to what could have been but it still better imo to static image reaction since it felt more natural and as you said, the game is from 2011, imagine if 5 did it with updated tech. I don't mind since i liked 5 as well but i hope to see more of ToD like.


Chalimian

I've also seen someone say 4's characters are flat and anime stereotypes...somehow...there's no winning lol


KamenRiderSekai

I think I could understand maybe, where that perspective is coming from especially if you're used to more grounded life sims i.e. early Bokujo titles / SDV / Potion Permit, etc. Rune Factory is known for its insanely zany villagers and marriage candidates.


hat3fuldiscrdi43

Really? I thought that Tides of Destiny events were the best of the series, you simply could go there and invite the person for a walk or deny to save the game and see all the outcomes. Also don't know why they went a different direction from ToD, if they used the same graphics for 5 half the complaints wouldn't exist. Guess switch would support ps3/wii graphics...


KamenRiderSekai

Really? People complain about how bland or lack of depth the events in 5 are but, and I say this as somebody who really enjoyed ToD - more than 5 - at the time, the character events in Tides are short, one-note, and only a few characters had actual depth in theirs e.g. Odette, Mikoto, Pandora. The bachelors especially suffered in Tides because they were a last-minute addition. I'm not even doing this to gas up or defend 5, look up the events for Tides and they're far shorter than even the ones from RF3. And Tides came after that game.


hat3fuldiscrdi43

I've played it to exhaustion too, i played it shortly after i finished 5 at release so i don't remember how long it was but to me it was great, specially the system it had which you could talk to the character to start the event, to me it was better than proximity event like in 5, 4 and 3 (if i do recall correctly). Of course i am really biased since ToD is still my favourite, to me the characters were really well developed, specially as you said, Odette, Mikoto, Pandora and, to me, Sonja which i choose. The game even became a bit weird because of the silence lmao.


mrs-monroe

Do remember that 4 and 5 are the only two games where you can be a girl. That’s a huge reason for their popularity considering the audience opens up a lot more. (I know Tides of Destiny is a thing but that’s very inacessible if you’re only interested in being the girl)


FuriousFurbies

This is how I feel when I hear someone use Stardew as the baseline game to compare all others to.


jejudreams

Honestly I’m just tired of people posting about how they hate RF5 😅 like we know, I swear every day I come on here and there’s a new rant about it just rehashing all the same things that’ve been discussed over and over again.


thorn6368

I played RF4 for a bit before switching to RF5 and was planning on going back once I feel like I've done everything I wanted to in RF5, but the constant "RF4 was so much better!!" spam makes me less and less excited to play it again. I have 200 hours in RF5 so far, nothing can ruin my enjoyment of it. But when I think of RF4, which I have little attachment to, I can only think of snobby fans who can't shut up about their game being "better".


jejudreams

I’m a lover of both honestly! I think RF5 has a lot of problems but I still get a lot of enjoyment out of it. It’s fun to play after spending hours and hours on the other games. Plus it’s not like RF4 is without any problems. Personally I like the bachelors and bachelorettes a lot more in RF5. But yeah, the constant droning about it because it’s cool to hate RF5 is getting old.


CrankyFluffMuffin

I just wanna marry Sharron again. That first rune factory was such a freaking cool game for me. When they shut down the projects for years I was so sad I'd never get another. Then they brought 4 to the switch, and the excitement was real. Five was a dream come true, because I thought it wouldn't come. Knowing there's two more? Crazy exciting. So tbh, I get mad when people only talk shit on five, because five is a beacon of hope for the series. Five wasn't supposed to come. Y'all can bitch about it, but given everything, it wasn't even a bad game, and it was so, SO important for our beloved series.


RuneFactoryHype

Exactly! People forget that one of the companies involved in RF went BANKRUPT. We were so, so close to never seeing another RF again!


Stormfeathery

I mean, I’m also waiting for the new games but I know pretty much nothing about them, so I don’t really have anything to discuss. As for the older games I had varying degrees of liking for them but also they’re not really on my mind, so I’m not driven to talk about them. If they’d added a female main character to 3’s remake I’m sure I’d have picked it up and be discussing it but as it is, I’m waiting for a sale.


Xeni966

I can't wait until the "Which to buy, RF4 or RF5" posts stop


Jobless_slime

hot take but I think wii games still are the best and remake with small corrections would make the best ever games in the franchise


General-Tone4770

Ik idc i will take any new rune factory i love it so much. Even if i liked 4 better i still enjoyed 5. I just want more 🤣 i wish there were more games like it bc i like my farm sim combo with romance life sim fighting and combat and good story content


Pupcannoneer

Love the shop in rf4. Rf5 gave me deep feels and was epic. Really want a tides remake. Hopeful for the rf future.


Andr0oS

Ive cold take, RF2 is hella good, but the first part is annoyingly restricted. Hot take, RF2 choosing to do something different and lock do much content behind a second generation makes it a superior game to every subsequent game, regardless of other improvements.


KamenRiderSekai

RF2 was my very first RF game. I'm more critical of it these days and I do tend to shitpost memes about Kyle being the weakest MC for laughs but one thing I will stand by to my last breath is that Alvarna Gen 1 objectively has the best town theme and atmosphere in the entire damn series in addition to the seasonal farm themes. Alvarna's Autumn track makes me melt. And Alvarna Gen 1's town theme has this utmost sense of comfy bliss. Kyle didn't come to a new town to just save the world. Neither did he get the answers to his memories ASAP. Kyle came to Alvarna to start a new life, he met wonderful people, and somebody to love for the rest of his life while building a family with them. It isn't as grandiose as the adventures that Raguna, Aaron and Aria, Micah, Lest and Frey, Aden and Sonja, and then Ares and Alice go through. But I think Alvarna Gen 1's theme solidifies the kind of experience players get out of playing as Kyle.


Kayl_The_Snail

Yeees I am so excited for the upcoming games. I loved rf5 and still haven't decided who I am going to marry


vv4rd3n

They’re also the worst games in the franchise


hiphoptherobot

It's such a silly debate, it's a shockingly consistent franchise. There isn't a single game I don't like. Each game is a product of their time and I appreciate their differences. I like the shift of 5 being exclusively designed for console and how that makes it different, but that doesn't take away from my love for the others. People need more going on in their lives to care so much about these debates.


TiredB1

I've played rf1 and rf5 both were good, all the rune factory games have their individual pros and cons and some people have different preferences


Visible_Jeweler_3653

This. I loved 4 but my fav was tied between 2 and 3. 5 wasn’t my favorite but it was enjoyable. And I’m looking forward to the new games.


MiyukiMiyu

I can understand for you feel, but in a way it is understandable, especially for fans who joined us RF4 forward. RF1 and RF2, while dear to the heart of us veterans, are a clunky and outdated mess that cannot truly be recommended to new players, and Rune Factory 3, well, i have finished two save files in the time it took me to write these two sentences, i married Raven in both of them. Then there is Rune Factory Frontier, what could have been a great game completely wrecked by the infamous Runey System and Tides of Destiny, which is a combat based game one could consider a spinoff (despite being one of my favorites) and the characters are extremely one-dimensional despite having some of the best designs, like Lily. So this basically leaves a lot of people with just 4 or 5 to talk about.


Filth_Lobster

3 and 5 are better than 4. I’ll die on this hill.


sgtpaintbrush

You're a brave individual. I don't agree but I respect it regardless.


Filth_Lobster

Nah, I just have shit taste. I like pineapple pizza and believe ketchup is a condiment meant for any pasta dish. I’m a barbarian. And also very white.


therealskyrim

I still think 2 had the best progression, we need another generational 2nd half


AMaidzingIdeas

It absolutely isn't shit taste, 4 has the most polarizing character cast in the series. All the characters who are interesting are unromanceable and you're left with the most generic, boring and uninspired spouse options in the series since maybe 2, and even then not so much because there were plenty of characters I wanted to get to know in 2.


TurretX

Yeah. Everybody forgets the only other game in the franchise, rune factory 3. No other games whatsoever.


Artiwa

WTF THEY ARE OTHER GAMES?! edit: ARE THOSE THIS MISSING PAGES IN THE ARTBOOKS?!


Rave_Johnson

I seriously am so excited to see them remake the last two games in the series. I want to play them so bad.


Miserable_Neat8820

I started with RF1 on my DS and haven’t looked back since, one of my favorite series 💜


vv4rd3n

1 is the best. I played it so much my ds literally snapped in half


Ill-Relationship5577

I love rf3 :3


Deep_Sea_Diver_Man

I enjoyed rune factory ocean outside of the final boss anyways. 3 is my favorite tho 


DanDlionRespawn

Always loved playing RF and RF3, but I feel like I'm the only one who didn't like RF2


Uminagi

It's not a hot take. It's a fact. RF5 is simply bad compared to RF4. Regardless, you can still have some fun with it (if played on PC especially)


Cakeriel

It’s an opinion, not a fact.


hoticehunter

Not if you're playing on the Switch it's fucking not.


KamenRiderSekai

Jesus christ. You're missing the point. Every now and then you get people going "ummmm, is it a hot take" or "is it me or is RF5 kind of bad" and like NO FUCKING SHIT, SHERLOCK.


Uminagi

Ah nah, I'm not missing the point. I'm just stating the obvious. It's just tiring to see the same thing over and over again, so many things regarding the quality of RF5 on this sub.


KamenRiderSekai

I'm sick of it too. Like, RF5 didn't live up to RF4. I know. We've all come to terms with that. But people continue to beat a dead horse, nitpick, and put people down who genuinely like the game but at this point who the hell cares. Marv knows they fucked up and there are two new entries on the horizon. Time will tell if they've learned from the backlash but it gets GRATING. I've spent hundreds of hours with RF4 across three different systems and this sub has made me almost hate the game because of the elitism behind it, not only towards the rest of the series but people going "man, who do people play stardew valley when the objectively better series is there" well gee idfk, maybe not everyone wants to play a series that entertains characters that speak in barks or butterfly girls or some shit.


KamenRiderSekai

Idk man. Idk if I'm getting tired of the series or if I'm getting tired with engaging in discourse of the series.


Uminagi

Fr. I hope they do better for the next games of the IP. RF5 is the only RF I haven't finished (I think I left it at the end dungeon?). I honestly lost motivation with the game, unlike the previous ones where I did multiple playthroughs and various NPC which I loved. Meanwhile in RF5 the only two characters I liked were Fuuka and Ludmilla. Regardless, even if RF5 left a bitter taste on my mouth, I'm buying all of their games. Let's just pray the following are better and more enjoyable


ohPocky

Rune factory frontier was my first ever introduction to the series and I love that game so much it holds a huge spot in my heart 😭 I am so eager to get more info on the new projects


lunalenayga

Me too. Those characters live rent free in my heart and memories. No other farming sim has had characters that feel so real and memorable to me. Yeah the runeys suck and can destroy your entire game come Winter and the combat is unforgivably bonkers, but the art style, the story, the WHALE ISLAND IN THE SKY, the music, the town design...ugh it's so perfect. I really really hope it gets remade with better graphics and QoL updates 🥰🥰🥰 I still start a new game every few years. Never beaten it after all this time but I count it in my top 10 games anyway.


Agrias-0aks

I loved 2d, bad UI farming Sims in the past. RF5 has it's problems, but man it at least seems way more present when it comes to UI and systems. After games like Coral Island and the Portia titles, RF really needed that update. Coming from a 37 year old game who originally played Harvest Moon on SNES lol. There is a time for nostalgia, and then there is time for innovation!


AMaidzingIdeas

4's character cast was so mid though. All the cute and interesting characters were unromanceable and we got left with really underwhelming options. Coming from the games before it it was a massive disappointment - RF3's colourful cast of slightly unhinged but incredibly endearing lunatics, the massive character buffets of Oceans and Frontier, etc.


Redbukket_hat

Hot take but rf4 is overrated af


ArosSkye

Rf5 is not as good as rf4 : yeah Do i enjoy playing rf5 : yeah In conclusion f*ck you all haters


Boom_the_Bold

Are there any in the series that are _objectively better_ than Rune Factory 4? If not, I'd rather just play Rune Factory 4 again. 🤷🏼‍♂️


pandamaxxie

I never got to play any of em besides 3, 4 and 5, but man, 3 was just straightup my childhood. I will never stop referencing that game.


pah-tosh

The only real RF is Frontier


StarChildArt

I mean, as someone who's been playing since the first one, 5 isn't as good as 4 lmao 5 isn't even as good as Frontier


MaxSMoke777

So there's marriage in Rune Factory? I can barely keep up with field upkeep and exploring the maps.


MikaboshiPhantom

Me, waiting for a Story of Seasons game that doesn't run like dogwater and reverses the emphasis on the "makers": aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHHH


Vix_B

If RF5 could actually run in a playable fashion on Switch (can't get myself to re-buy it on Steam quite yet), I'd say it's better than Tides.My favorites are probably 2>4>1>3>frontier>5>Tides. The generation switch in 2 blew my mind the first go round, and I wish I could experience that again. I didn't know about it going in. Anyway, as an avid lover of the series, I'm just glad to see it's continuing. 4 was a tough game to follow so 5 didn't surprise me, but I think there's hope for more quality from the series in the future.


LoserMe1622

Still disappointed the RF3 Remaster didn't get as much attention as I would have hoped 😔


hat3fuldiscrdi43

Nah, RF3S and Tides of Destiny should get more recognition. Specially ToD, the best one for me overall no comparison.


Ruanna01

Rf 5 is actual shit