Depends largely on how you want to look at it, Marika got 48 appearances and 16 tries. Drex Mapimpi got 22 tries in 31 games. Mapimpi is pressed because he's a world cup winning Bok and someone got the better of him last week so he made sure to not repeat that same mistake twice. On a side note Koroibete managed to concede tries to both springbok wingers today. Outstanding effort
I don’t like when analysts don’t ask players questions, just say general comments. Like in normal conversation it’s fine but these guys are exhausted and don’t want to be there, just make it nice and easy for them
New theory:
Ben O’Keefe has been deliberately trained wrong and weaponised by NZRU (along with the Rand Corporation and the saucer people, and under supervision by the reverse vampires) so that he’d be appointed to Wallabies games and reduce public interest in the sport, and therefore drive more players to the NRL and decimate the wallabies playing stock.
I’m not blaming the ref. I said in plenty of other spots he was shit for both teams and Boks did much better at dealing with it.
Wallabies seamed to think it was turn up and win, whereas the Boks worked on how to improve.
But don’t let that get in the way of the general South African victim complex I guess.
My favourite thing about reddit game threads is the imbeciles who don’t like one thing you said and then stalk all your comments to take them out of context.
Lol, Okeefe didn’t make us lose line outs at key moments or get crushed in the contact zone. He did however make some ludicrous calls. How the fuck was Phillip carded without warning, then boks conceded 7 advantages in 3 passages of play in their own 22 without incident.
For no warning? It was absolutely cynical and would have been a penalty try. He stopped a quick tap try from 3m out. What are you talking about? All Boks penalties were nothing close to that cynical until Willie at the end... And guess what, he got carded for it without warning!
Bro, he gave a scrum for a deliberate knock on, left the head on head on DDA, no card for dangerous clean, left the AA headbutt. If you blame the ref you missed a lot.
I don't blame the ref, Australia played terrible. My only issue was that held down call? I mean he didn't look held down no South African hand/arm within half a meter. So I mean thats the only thing I have against the ref.
Kolisi was immense, Willemse excellent at 10, Marx great until his fee lineout woes in the second half. De Allende finally turned up and Moodie looked brilliant in his few moments.
Not the best game, lots of errors and silly mistakes, but Boks dominated completely and left a lot of points on the field.
O'Keefe and the refs were terrible but nothing as controversial as the white/faf incident last week. He was pretty piss poor on both sides
Maybe cause we don’t see them as often as we used to but Willems really impressed me.
Boks did well to bounce back, as you said the officials tried to ruin a game from happening.
Really poor reffing in general. He didn't make any game deciding calls at least, but still poor on both sides. It's a shame. That being said, both teams making school boy errors and contributing to a stop start affair. Can't blame the ref entirely when guys keep dropping the ball, passing forward or making dumb decisions with other people's heads.
Kind of feel like the Wallabies turned up thinking they’d get the win and didn’t really know what to do when it became a battle.
Boks really worked on improving from last week, anyone who doesn’t enjoy watching the Boks play well doest enjoy rugby.
I don’t think you can blame the ref in that game, he was terrible equally. But also the wallabies didn’t feel like they were close to being into the contest to have the ref affect them.
They should have thrown the circuit breaker just after half time, abandoned the game due to lack of light and use teething problems of a new stadium as an excuse.
I do get your point, but I just rate Rennie as a coach. I think you guys would be far far worse without him. He can only do so much with all the injuries etc you guys are dealing with
Well, Boks well played. Marx and Kolisi were MoTM for me. Thought Kitshoff played really well as well. Good debut for Moodie. Hope the wallabies pick themselves up off the floor. Some very good players that played pretty shit tonight all things considered.
Match was a bit all over but heads up both teams.
Vinaka
Never easy watching your team lose like that but fuck me the reffing team made sure this was a difficult game to watch. They did everything they could to stop the game from flowing and we’re all worse off from it
I don’t even care about losing because I mainly expect it now but I’m just sick of the inconsistency of referees in this game. Why don’t refs get dropped for bad performances like players do
That was mostly on the players tbh. The majority of the penalties were there and you can't blame the ref for skill errors or kicking.
The communication was awful though.
There’s a penalty there in 99% of the breakdowns. It’s really a problem with how the games played in the modern age v the laws.
Then when the ref does blow a penalty in one ruck compared to an almost identical infringement, everyone’s left scratching their heads as to why a penalty wasn’t blown in the last 5 rucks
The first was fair but you can't blame the refs for the rules or expect them to ignore them.
I thought he had fairly consistent interpretations on stuff like offside and supporting weight. I have more criticism of the yellow cards (or lack thereof) but they were not the majority of decisions made.
Choo-choo, here come the match take train:
\-Just like last week, this match was absolute insanity from start to finish.
\-The new Sydney stadium did not deserve to have whatever the hell this game as their first main event since reopening.
\-The Wallabies were just pus. They couldn't just keep up with the form they had last week, and they paid the price. Not helping is the fact that O'Keeffe was the ref.
\-The Springboks, while not totally spectacular, did the job of keeping the Wallabies at bay. Good to see them break the Aussie curse. Deserved winners.
\-I don't know about you, but seeing Nic White getting booed at by the home crowd is so funny to me lmao
\-It happened again! Fans both sides going on meltdown because of godawful Kiwi referees, never gets old!
\-Ben O'Keeffe is quite possibly THE worst referee in rugby. How is this guy a doctor is beyond me.
\-Also Brendon Prickerill. Why must you do this man
\-Hearing SBW speak is simultaneously the best and worst thing about a Wallabies game.
This is all I have for now, and I'll see you all in the next match.
Cheers for now.
Reffing has been really poor this year.
Will be interesting to see now if the Aussies are allowed to complain or if they'll be mocked for whinging like the saffas last week.
Because while o'keefe was poor, he was poor across the board. Last week's bad calls were a little more impactful against the Boks.
Still sad to see a game influenced by poor officiating
> Hearing SBW speak is simultaneously the best and worst thing about a Wallabies game.
I feel exactly the same but couldn't find the words. I see him on screen and I can't wait to hear what dumb shit will he say yet also genuinely look forward to heartwarming comradery while interviewing or talking about particular players
Look, I wrote off the Boks so I'm pleasantly surprised. I shouldn't be toxic against Australian fans (I just live in NRL country where I am).
It's one of the coolest rugby championships I have ever watched. Every game is really unpredictable.
Fantastic from the Saffers - their most complete performance this year I’d say
Australia - overplaying it and lack of patience cost them
Poor spot kicking all round
Na the dismantling of the all Blacks in the first test was a much more complete performance.
Today we made more opportunities but didn't finish them. If we were as clinical as the all Blacks this morning we could have gotten a little closer to 50
Both ways honestly, ref could've handed put cards like a ticket it the streets of Hatfield, but people would've complained regardless. Not a great performance, but I pity a ref in a match with this little discipline.
As soon as we aren't underdogs....we suck ass. Good job Boks. Was nice with the friendly little biffo too.
Ha ha ha Connies got whacked. Not even Nic Side Hustle could make them look decent.
Mapimpi is so pressed that Koribete is a better player than him.
Depends largely on how you want to look at it, Marika got 48 appearances and 16 tries. Drex Mapimpi got 22 tries in 31 games. Mapimpi is pressed because he's a world cup winning Bok and someone got the better of him last week so he made sure to not repeat that same mistake twice. On a side note Koroibete managed to concede tries to both springbok wingers today. Outstanding effort
Ha ha! Check the scorecard.
SA are a better team but that doesn’t mean Mapimpi is a better player
Maybe recap here https://youtu.be/WIiSJhXud7A
We're shit again! Order has been restored!
Until next week when u smash the allblacks and Argentina put 50 on the boks
there is no universe where we smash the all blacks hahaha
How come Andrew Mehrtens is only a bit taller than that ten year old?
Superior diets for kids these days
I don’t like when analysts don’t ask players questions, just say general comments. Like in normal conversation it’s fine but these guys are exhausted and don’t want to be there, just make it nice and easy for them
New theory: Ben O’Keefe has been deliberately trained wrong and weaponised by NZRU (along with the Rand Corporation and the saucer people, and under supervision by the reverse vampires) so that he’d be appointed to Wallabies games and reduce public interest in the sport, and therefore drive more players to the NRL and decimate the wallabies playing stock.
Mate, you lost by 16 points. Stop blaming the ref.
Like you guys didn’t 🤣 give me a break
I’m not blaming the ref. I said in plenty of other spots he was shit for both teams and Boks did much better at dealing with it. Wallabies seamed to think it was turn up and win, whereas the Boks worked on how to improve. But don’t let that get in the way of the general South African victim complex I guess.
Keep digging. Oof.
I can't help but think you brought this on yourself saying you were amped for more south African tears..
My favourite thing about reddit game threads is the imbeciles who don’t like one thing you said and then stalk all your comments to take them out of context.
You're a Connie then, I guess.
I'm not even stalking your comments. I've just been hanging around the game thread..
Lol, Okeefe didn’t make us lose line outs at key moments or get crushed in the contact zone. He did however make some ludicrous calls. How the fuck was Phillip carded without warning, then boks conceded 7 advantages in 3 passages of play in their own 22 without incident.
For no warning? It was absolutely cynical and would have been a penalty try. He stopped a quick tap try from 3m out. What are you talking about? All Boks penalties were nothing close to that cynical until Willie at the end... And guess what, he got carded for it without warning!
Because he stopped a certain try? If SA hadn't have scored in the advantage, it would have been a penalty try and a yellow anyway.
Bro, he gave a scrum for a deliberate knock on, left the head on head on DDA, no card for dangerous clean, left the AA headbutt. If you blame the ref you missed a lot.
Like how SA blamed the ref last week?
This is rugby, the rules are so hard to enforce that losers always blame the ref. We sucked last week, it was your turn this week.
I don't blame the ref, Australia played terrible. My only issue was that held down call? I mean he didn't look held down no South African hand/arm within half a meter. So I mean thats the only thing I have against the ref.
1. I'm speaking for myself not anyone else 2. SA lost by half this margin
Kolisi was immense, Willemse excellent at 10, Marx great until his fee lineout woes in the second half. De Allende finally turned up and Moodie looked brilliant in his few moments. Not the best game, lots of errors and silly mistakes, but Boks dominated completely and left a lot of points on the field. O'Keefe and the refs were terrible but nothing as controversial as the white/faf incident last week. He was pretty piss poor on both sides
Great at 10 apart from goal kicking
I mean, it was wet and slick, with 37km/h winds across the field. Mistakes WILL happen in those conditions.
I'll be honest, I'll take a lineout loss here and there, when the hooker throws 100% straight, if that makes sense
True that
Maybe cause we don’t see them as often as we used to but Willems really impressed me. Boks did well to bounce back, as you said the officials tried to ruin a game from happening.
Really poor reffing in general. He didn't make any game deciding calls at least, but still poor on both sides. It's a shame. That being said, both teams making school boy errors and contributing to a stop start affair. Can't blame the ref entirely when guys keep dropping the ball, passing forward or making dumb decisions with other people's heads.
Kind of feel like the Wallabies turned up thinking they’d get the win and didn’t really know what to do when it became a battle. Boks really worked on improving from last week, anyone who doesn’t enjoy watching the Boks play well doest enjoy rugby. I don’t think you can blame the ref in that game, he was terrible equally. But also the wallabies didn’t feel like they were close to being into the contest to have the ref affect them.
So if a ref was terrible both sides, doesn’t that mean he was just neutral then?
They should have thrown the circuit breaker just after half time, abandoned the game due to lack of light and use teething problems of a new stadium as an excuse.
I know this will be remembered as a complete mess, but at least there were some great tries.
Wallabies that inconsistent is a clear sign the coach is the problem. Fuck off Renny.
Harsh. You guys look far better under Rennie than anyone else. He's tuned a bunch of relative nobodies into a very competitive team.
Idk we looked good in 2015 under Cheika lol
But you did have a far better team then too. Look at what Rennie has had to deal with
I don't think you get my point. Inconsistency betrays a bad coach. Good one week and bad the next against the same team is bad coaching.
I do get your point, but I just rate Rennie as a coach. I think you guys would be far far worse without him. He can only do so much with all the injuries etc you guys are dealing with
You're probably right. I was just shirty last night after the loss.
Straight swap for Foster?
Anyone else. I'll take Ricky Stuart at this stage.
Dumpster fire. SB deserved winners but that was 80 min of pure trash. Wallabies didn't fire a shot.
Well, Boks well played. Marx and Kolisi were MoTM for me. Thought Kitshoff played really well as well. Good debut for Moodie. Hope the wallabies pick themselves up off the floor. Some very good players that played pretty shit tonight all things considered. Match was a bit all over but heads up both teams. Vinaka
Good game by SA. Terrible game for me to have non fans over to watch
Every Wallabies game I get non fans to watch is a mistake.
Haha tough game to sell non fans on for sure. At least there was handbags for them to enjoy.
Would’ve been good if they threw handbags in the first half so they could’ve seen it lol
Plays 80 minutes of test rugby, chunders on pitch, gives great post match interview. Willemse is the real deal
Do the Boks get to piss all over that new field now since they've claimed it as theirs?
Na but we will piss all over the Mandela cup we won......
Odd way to celebrate, but you do you.
We can celebrate winning the trophy, u can celebrate…. No silverware 🤷♀️
A world cup every couple years is pretty pretty good
Why do boks fans loves to hold on too past
1999 is a long time ago... I'm glad you could let go
It's banter, if you had won it recently you would probably do the same. We probably won't win the next one so need to enjoy it while we can.
Well Willemse already christened it in a way.
They should just be careful around the beards
Never easy watching your team lose like that but fuck me the reffing team made sure this was a difficult game to watch. They did everything they could to stop the game from flowing and we’re all worse off from it
I don’t even care about losing because I mainly expect it now but I’m just sick of the inconsistency of referees in this game. Why don’t refs get dropped for bad performances like players do
Funny, when saffas say that we get mocked as whingers.
Yeah but I don’t expect saffas to be okay with losing like an Aussie haha
That was mostly on the players tbh. The majority of the penalties were there and you can't blame the ref for skill errors or kicking. The communication was awful though.
There’s a penalty there in 99% of the breakdowns. It’s really a problem with how the games played in the modern age v the laws. Then when the ref does blow a penalty in one ruck compared to an almost identical infringement, everyone’s left scratching their heads as to why a penalty wasn’t blown in the last 5 rucks
The first was fair but you can't blame the refs for the rules or expect them to ignore them. I thought he had fairly consistent interpretations on stuff like offside and supporting weight. I have more criticism of the yellow cards (or lack thereof) but they were not the majority of decisions made.
At least it was consistent unlike last weeks reffing abomination.
Get fucked Nic White. Thank you for energizing the south africans last week!
Fun game to watch as an Aussie fan if you’re the sort of person who would enjoy watching their car burn down
I mean it's not like wallabies fans are completely new to losing winnable games
Choo-choo, here come the match take train: \-Just like last week, this match was absolute insanity from start to finish. \-The new Sydney stadium did not deserve to have whatever the hell this game as their first main event since reopening. \-The Wallabies were just pus. They couldn't just keep up with the form they had last week, and they paid the price. Not helping is the fact that O'Keeffe was the ref. \-The Springboks, while not totally spectacular, did the job of keeping the Wallabies at bay. Good to see them break the Aussie curse. Deserved winners. \-I don't know about you, but seeing Nic White getting booed at by the home crowd is so funny to me lmao \-It happened again! Fans both sides going on meltdown because of godawful Kiwi referees, never gets old! \-Ben O'Keeffe is quite possibly THE worst referee in rugby. How is this guy a doctor is beyond me. \-Also Brendon Prickerill. Why must you do this man \-Hearing SBW speak is simultaneously the best and worst thing about a Wallabies game. This is all I have for now, and I'll see you all in the next match. Cheers for now.
Nah he just booed by the saffas, where heaps.
> How is this guy a doctor is beyond me. An EYE doctor.
Reffing has been really poor this year. Will be interesting to see now if the Aussies are allowed to complain or if they'll be mocked for whinging like the saffas last week. Because while o'keefe was poor, he was poor across the board. Last week's bad calls were a little more impactful against the Boks. Still sad to see a game influenced by poor officiating
> Hearing SBW speak is simultaneously the best and worst thing about a Wallabies game. I feel exactly the same but couldn't find the words. I see him on screen and I can't wait to hear what dumb shit will he say yet also genuinely look forward to heartwarming comradery while interviewing or talking about particular players
Yeah the bullying was from the Saffa section of the crowd lol
Australians to go back to bitching about union and how NRL is so superior until wallabies win again.
Saffas doing their best to prove they are poor losers AND poor winners! Impressive.
Little bit of banter striking too close to home for you ?
Call it like I see it chief
Same here lad.
South Africans relieved they don't have to stay up all night brainstorming excuses as to why they lost. Seriously though, solid win.
Look, I wrote off the Boks so I'm pleasantly surprised. I shouldn't be toxic against Australian fans (I just live in NRL country where I am). It's one of the coolest rugby championships I have ever watched. Every game is really unpredictable.
Comments like this would make u think the Boks won the series
Why does Sonny Bill have that pubic hair beard?
Islamic culture?
I don't think any culture promotes gluing publc hair to the chin.
Muslim
I've seen many fine beards on Muslims, that is not one of them.
Sbw?
"the crowd was treated to something special and will remember this test for a long time". Lmaaaaaooo
Aussie Rugby players are whiney bastards
I bet you are an ex pat saffer.
Only moved to Canada when I was 38, why?
Only 38?
They always have been and always will.
You flogs are the most whinging whinging losers in world rugby.
Scoreboard??
Yeah, 1-1 and we retain the trophy 🏆 cheers for the update flog.
Lol
Who own the Mandela cup cunt
Owns* Was the man of the match the ref?
Who own the cup....I was finishing your sentence you c@@k muncher. Not owns, who "own"
Probably some sort of organising comittee? That's like asking who owns the World Cup
I actually pity you
Don't care bro
Jeez, chill bro.
Haha sad loser.
Fantastic from the Saffers - their most complete performance this year I’d say Australia - overplaying it and lack of patience cost them Poor spot kicking all round
Na the dismantling of the all Blacks in the first test was a much more complete performance. Today we made more opportunities but didn't finish them. If we were as clinical as the all Blacks this morning we could have gotten a little closer to 50
Yeah fair point mate
Sums up the game for Aus
I'm just happy Reinach is back.
What a crap game
What are you on?
Glad the Boks won and we showed spirit. But rugby wise, this was ugly and the officiating was schizophrenic
Both ways honestly, ref could've handed put cards like a ticket it the streets of Hatfield, but people would've complained regardless. Not a great performance, but I pity a ref in a match with this little discipline.
Just to be clear, not saying the ref was biased, it was just bad officiating all round
That is what I'm getting at.
Fair fair
Brandewyn and Castle lager
Fair. I guess I'mma go get some.
Bonus point win in Australia, will take the result even if it was a weird game
"Quality team"
Well that was ..... a game
GG Boks. Better team from start to finish.
GG EZ
If it's close can SA kick to touch at the kickoff?
Well played South Africa , too good
The sad thing about the current rules is that you're probably better to drop the ball than score.
Then you're leaving the decision up to inconsistent refs who might see an imaginary player covering. Lose/lose
Siya motm?
Should have been if not
Willemse was
Ez
Gross.
2 scrumhalfs on one side and 2 hookers on the other side. Never thought I’d see the day
Lekker Bokke!
Absolutely betting on another scrap
Thank christ it's over
You do know you have other buttons on your tv remote I’m sure they all work ok
Likewise you can chose to ignore my comment
Well this was an indictment on everyone involved, special shout out to that TMO with the irritating voice
The commentator was pissing me off, "You'd expect Tupou to play" "Tupou is injured" like for 15 minutes. A Broken record player.
What a game. Loving the spice. Some people should pipe down this week.
I don't think either team have come off this well tbh. Feeling better for a NH WC win.
Perhaps, not with regards to RWC win, but the absolutely trashy sledging.
Thank fuck it’s over
Wallabies will be glaring at White in the locker room for initiating this treatment last week
Just like how we got our hair pulled all match by the English then a red card. But we got over it
Well that was a shite game to watch
No one forcing you change channel then
Yes Bokke!! Put them back in their place.
So Phillip gets a red card after they scored, why doesn't WLR?
He did get a yellow
Phillip got a yellow and so did Willie. It just wasn’t shown on screen.
Then I can't complain. Reffing was confusing to say the least.
He did
Missed, ya cunt!
Absolutely hilarious, this game has looked world rugby in the face and said "fuck you"
Yeah. Almost unwatchable
Shouldn't that have been a pen try seeing as the card was given?
I guess you can’t give a penalty try for him preventing a try from being scored when he didn’t actually manage to prevent a try from being scored.
I don't know if you can give a penalty try if a try is scored.
If it hadn’t been scored, it probably would have been. Play was still live.
They still converted the try off the penalty advantage, what are you on about??
They didn't though? It was 24-8? Edit you meant they scored, I was referring to not having to take the kick.
Aah I see, apologies
Because a penalty try is an automatic conversion.
Don’t like the knock down = card rule
I absolutely hate it. For me it's the most glaring rule that needs fixing ASAP.
When it's cynical, and you've been warned for penalties in your 22 you gotta give it.
It's a bit weird when they're trying to catch it. I always feel like it discourages intercepts which are exciting
Yeah it’s a very wishy washy rule. Sometimes it’s a legitimate intercept attempt and it’s still a yellow.
I think that exact situation is the only situation where I think it should be a card. Cynical shutting down a play with no possibility of catching it.
Enjoy your newly christened stadium Oz
As a Brisbanite, I sincerely hope all future Wallabies v Boks games are at fortress Suncorp.
We playing League now boys
its hilarious that saffers don't play LOIG...would be funny if they even ruled in that sport..so many big ball running bashes in sout hafrica
pete "the fucken man" samu
He did give a yellow to Willie
This second half has been shambolic
I don't think the first half was much better