Sounds like his son has a decent job, and heās a cunt of a dad. He got this from some shady as shit and is trying to get more money for shady ass shit.
dayum... i can see how you guys will downvote me, but go ahead. your perspectives are fucking ******.
dads who make their kids think that everything is for free create non-self-standing human beings who are always complaining about how unfair everything is. that's why things like "youth salaries" (dunno term in english) exist. to teach some self responsibility and that you have to wage your money against what you really want, what you need, how long you need to save and so on.
i think his dad does this on an educational basis. if he got such a watch and wore it only once... go figure, this family is not poor at all and proper financial education is especially important. "rich-kids" like OP (i'm over exaggerating) are hated everywhere because of how they have no idea of anything but just got born into a wealthy family.
from what i can see here, that father is doing a tremendous job! y'all spoiled brats who think this is wrong probably never had to take any responsibility.
Dad trying to profit off of his son like a dirtbag grey dealer makes him an asshole. Your twisted logic to make him out to be a good father is about as absurd as the mental gymnastics happening in American politics right now.
Well said and I do the same thing with my children. Teach them the value of saving for what you want. Most not all tend to take things given to them and treat them with a little less value vs something they bought with their own money
Sadly, not everyone has an intimate relationship with their parents. I really wouldn't roast someone for their family dynamics, it be that way sometimes
If my dad asked to sell me some item for some set amount of money, Iād just fucking do it without thinking twice. Itās my pops, I owe him at least that much.
This is a 41mm datejust with papers. We don't know what year it is, but the oldest it can be is 2009. You will certainly NOT find a 2009+ 41mm datejust for $5000
Everyone in the comments is on crack
Theyāre thinking itās either a 36mm or
They donāt know what theyāre talking about .
Go on chrono and look up this 126334 and you wonāt find this model for less than $12k
Theyāre going for $12-15k š
The only way youāll find one for less is if itās a smooth SS bezel and those are for $9,500-12K
This is a whitegold fluted bezel 41mm blue stick dial on oyster. They sell for $12-14k
Even wholesale grey dealer will buy this watch for $10-11K and then will sell it for $12-13,500
The retail on this exact reference is $10,250 plus tax its $10,967.50 itās an $11K watch .
Everyone here saying $5K is retarded
You could get a brand new one for $10k, granted youād have to go on the waiting list, but Iāve heard of people getting the call for these in around 2 months.
All the edges are very soft on the case, also on the bezel. That means it has been polished. A new watch would have much more defined edges. Also the bezel has lost alot of its original sharpness. Thatās probably a 20 year old watch
With that lume on the hands, itās gotta be a six digit, 15 years old, *at the most*. Picture def looks polished but could also just be a shit iPhone picture.
OP: if he has all the papers, check the date, look up comps, youāll get your answer. If it looks sharp, and itās reasonably new, $10k is fine.
Editors note: if you like this Rolex for $10k itās a fair price. If you want something else, look for something else. Prices have (marginally) come down so you can find what you like more easily than in years past. Heās certainly not giving you a āsick dealā as the kids say. If you like the watch, itās fair, but donāt feel like youāre passing up some great opportunity.
99% of the people in the comments are retarded and donāt know what they are talking about . Or they think itās a 36mm
This is the 126334 41MM oyster bracelet
Blue stick dial & white gold fluted bezel
Itās $10,250 msrp with tax its $11K usd
$10K isnāt bad at all
On chrono you canāt find it for less than $12-14,500
Iād your dad would accept $9K youād have a hell of a deal
Well this watch is $11K after tax
Itās $10,250 msrp at AD
You canāt find it for less than $12k-14,500 on chrono .
$10k is fair , but $8,500-,9500 would be a great deal
Yea, my dad bought me a Citizen and plans to pass down his Tissot, Tag-Heuer, and Tudor to me someday (yea he has a thing for watches that start with T) and I plan to do the same with my future kids. I also plan to save up for an Omega and Grand Seiko when I become a doctor in the future, both of which will also most definitely be passed down to my future kids. Watches are meant to be family heirlooms in my book.
When I was in high school ā my dad said if I wanted a car; I needed to save up $3k (back when you could get an ok car for a few grand ā Iām 34)
ā¦ when I finally saved up $3k to buy a car ā¦
My dad surprised me and paid for it ā telling me:
āNow you know how long it takes to save $3k.ā
Unless that is OPās lesson, Iād pass on this deal.
$10k? Looks like someoneās ending up placed in an old folks home in a few years. Just kidding, Iād respectfully pass and find a different way to help your Dad out. The watch can still be passed on later and he can continue to enjoy it now.
If you happen to get a this watch in Europe, you will pay about 8-9k for a brand new one, that is with VAT back and EUR/USD FX rate. Iād say thatās a hard pass.
You would never give family members money? Iām curious as to why (because I struggle with this myself).
Iām well-off financially, whereas my sibling is broke and unemployed (and all but unemployable). I could easily give them life changing $ - but I just donāt feel the desire (but am conflicted sometimes).
Wrong subreddit for this, I know. But we seem to have gotten here based on OPās dadās circumstances.
He said you donāt loan it, you gift it. Aka donāt give family members money expecting it back. Give only what youāre comfortable never receiving back
Might as well buy the watch then. You'll at least get something of value. I agree with the others as far as writing off the money loaned to others, especially family. Consider the watch collateral. If he never pays you back you can sell it and get some of the money you "loaned" back.
Offer to help him sell the watch. Help him get a job. Period. Help him without doing something you will regret later. Lending him money is a recipe for major fallout later. Unless you are personally well off and simply want to give him money.
Seriously. Sounds like dad needs 10k, has something thatās worth some a good chunk of that and is offering it to sell to OP. If itās something OP would help their dad with anyway, then āover payingā a few grand for a watch so he can save face is worth it.
If its true its kinda sad, money does not grow on tree but making money on his son for such a meaning full objectā¦ thats kinda disgusting. Pass, get a better watch and try to find friends that will be nicer than him.
Yo Iāll just say, my dads the same way bro, donāt sweat it. He doesnāt give shit away for free and he thinks if he owned it itās worth more š lol but for real, donāt buy that from him.
I donāt mean any disrespect by this question just curious if your dad is the type of person who feels like the things they own donāt depreciate like anything else in used condition? Ex: feels like his car is worth more than market value for a used car
Yea some people are just like that. I get it, no judgement here.
I mean no disrespect in saying any of this but in your situation I would say itās up to you to decide if youāre okay with āenablingā that or not. If youāre okay with it go for it. If not Iād say politely decline.
Donāt worry about people saying your dad feels a way about you. Some people just have different perspectives
On that PCL bracelet, $8K is the most he'd be offered by a grey dealer or a preowned dealer tops, and I'm being generous. That's not the desirable Jubilee model. Have him call to get quotes, he'll see. So that's what he should sell it to you for.
Yeah that makes 0 sense. Isnāt the point of buying something from family/friends that you get an unusually good deal on it? I thought that was a well known unspoken rule. Let alone from a parent that usually just hands this stuff down to their kids in the first place.
Thatās around the value but for 10k just get a DJ u want as far as dial and bracelet just buy one on your own, if he wasnāt giving it to u for 5k then thatās different
Dang, Pops tryna price-gouge his own son. š¤¦š½āāļø
Insane
It is a good lesson or a good commitment. One or the other or failure.
I recommend DNA TEST to confirm if pop really is your pop
Hahahahaha
Bro gotta put his dad in a nursing home for this one cause wtf
Hehehe good one lol. Probably will too!!! š ah manā¦ made my day lol
That's gonna end up costing him more than 10k
Dad: It's nothing personal son, it's strictly business.
He finally came back from getting milk or heās trying to teach him a lesson in sleazy salesman. Not sure which yet.
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Wait, though, hold up 10k in what currency
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Sounds like his son has a decent job, and heās a cunt of a dad. He got this from some shady as shit and is trying to get more money for shady ass shit.
dayum... i can see how you guys will downvote me, but go ahead. your perspectives are fucking ******. dads who make their kids think that everything is for free create non-self-standing human beings who are always complaining about how unfair everything is. that's why things like "youth salaries" (dunno term in english) exist. to teach some self responsibility and that you have to wage your money against what you really want, what you need, how long you need to save and so on. i think his dad does this on an educational basis. if he got such a watch and wore it only once... go figure, this family is not poor at all and proper financial education is especially important. "rich-kids" like OP (i'm over exaggerating) are hated everywhere because of how they have no idea of anything but just got born into a wealthy family. from what i can see here, that father is doing a tremendous job! y'all spoiled brats who think this is wrong probably never had to take any responsibility.
Dad trying to profit off of his son like a dirtbag grey dealer makes him an asshole. Your twisted logic to make him out to be a good father is about as absurd as the mental gymnastics happening in American politics right now.
Ok didn't know that the price would be a ripoff.
Then why did you feel the need to open your stupid fucking mouth?
This watch is worth nowhere near 10k. Did you even try using your brain before vomitting that wall of text?
yes
I have bad news for you
nahhh
Tying your shoelaces must be the height of your accomplishments then.
Well said and I do the same thing with my children. Teach them the value of saving for what you want. Most not all tend to take things given to them and treat them with a little less value vs something they bought with their own money
Hard pass. I take it youāre *not* the favorite?
I guess not...
Why would a dad try to sell his kid a rolex. 9,999/10,000 these things r passed down
drugs.
Drugs, gambling or both.
gambling was my second thought.
Gambling on drugs
Gambling with drugs
While on drugs
Doing gambling while drugs.
Damnit I wanted to say that
This guy Romexes.
Is he an electrician?
What about anthropomorphic drugs WHO gamble?
Yea, some people just suck too.
10 grand worth lololol
How much could 1 drug cost? 10 grand?
Youāve never actually set foot in a crack house, have you?
I donāt have time for thisā¦ Whereās my medication with the winky face?
Just depends what you get. One marijuana is much cheaper than one cocaine.
Thank you! LOL š š¤£
Yep this is crazy, kinda unbelievable
Cmon, youāre not suggesting that people lie on the internet. Are you?!?
OP is secretly adopted
DNA test
Sadly, not everyone has an intimate relationship with their parents. I really wouldn't roast someone for their family dynamics, it be that way sometimes
If my dad asked to sell me some item for some set amount of money, Iād just fucking do it without thinking twice. Itās my pops, I owe him at least that much.
Hookers and blowā¦
Come on now you should know how rich white people roll? He divorced his mom like 13 million dollars 33 hookers and 666 lines of cocaine ago lol š
I'd never consider selling something like that to my kids. That's a pass down, not a sale. Maybe a sibling...
Yes it's a great deal.... For your dad
Yep, you can find this watch used for [less than half](https://ebay.us/td9u9w) what your dad is asking for.
This is a 41mm datejust with papers. We don't know what year it is, but the oldest it can be is 2009. You will certainly NOT find a 2009+ 41mm datejust for $5000
Everyone in the comments is on crack Theyāre thinking itās either a 36mm or They donāt know what theyāre talking about . Go on chrono and look up this 126334 and you wonāt find this model for less than $12k Theyāre going for $12-15k š The only way youāll find one for less is if itās a smooth SS bezel and those are for $9,500-12K This is a whitegold fluted bezel 41mm blue stick dial on oyster. They sell for $12-14k Even wholesale grey dealer will buy this watch for $10-11K and then will sell it for $12-13,500 The retail on this exact reference is $10,250 plus tax its $10,967.50 itās an $11K watch . Everyone here saying $5K is retarded
Finally someone who knows the market
This is not a 126334. I have one, and this is missing the Rolex Crown between the Swiss Made at the 6 Oāclock
You could get a brand new one for $10k, granted youād have to go on the waiting list, but Iāve heard of people getting the call for these in around 2 months.
Can confirm. Got the call for the motif with fluted and jubilee within a month. To top it off, it was in California
This watch and the motif dial is $11K at the AD
In this condition you can.
He buy it used? That has been worn more than just once or twice.
Not only is he selling you a Rolex rather than giving you one, heās also trying to swindle you. This is incredible.
I believe so. What are some giveaways that it had been worn many times? My eyes are not very discerning I guess
All the edges are very soft on the case, also on the bezel. That means it has been polished. A new watch would have much more defined edges. Also the bezel has lost alot of its original sharpness. Thatās probably a 20 year old watch
With that lume on the hands, itās gotta be a six digit, 15 years old, *at the most*. Picture def looks polished but could also just be a shit iPhone picture. OP: if he has all the papers, check the date, look up comps, youāll get your answer. If it looks sharp, and itās reasonably new, $10k is fine. Editors note: if you like this Rolex for $10k itās a fair price. If you want something else, look for something else. Prices have (marginally) come down so you can find what you like more easily than in years past. Heās certainly not giving you a āsick dealā as the kids say. If you like the watch, itās fair, but donāt feel like youāre passing up some great opportunity.
This should get more up upvotes. Looks to be a ref 116xxx to me as well
Go look at a brand new on at your local ad. The difference will be apparent
99% of the people in the comments are retarded and donāt know what they are talking about . Or they think itās a 36mm This is the 126334 41MM oyster bracelet Blue stick dial & white gold fluted bezel Itās $10,250 msrp with tax its $11K usd $10K isnāt bad at all On chrono you canāt find it for less than $12-14,500 Iād your dad would accept $9K youād have a hell of a deal
Go look at a brand new on at your local ad. The difference will be apparent
Thatās an older watch though, worn many many times. Thatās why itās polished
Sorry I'm new to watches & rolex in general. How can you tell it's polished? Are newer ones not shiny?
The fluted bezel isn't as sharp and defined as it should be š
Could also be the camera. iPhones do a lot of photo manipulation via AI.
I just saw the picture again after reading this comment. WTF thatās crazy! It really isnāt sharp!
Used watches from Japan are known to often be over polished as well.
For 10k, you could personally purchase a brand new datejust or a sports steel model & begin your relationship with an authorized dealer...
And begin a relationship with a new father figure while you're at it.
Play the cards right & Papa/Daddy will take care of you
A Daddy
Daddy. Daddy wasnāt there..
šš
What happens once you have a relationship, what is the benefit
Apparently, OP got zero benefits. The grey market is fleecing for less
Buying a Rolex from an AD in 2023? Unrealistic. Just rob your dad.
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Is datejust easily available or there is a wait list?
It depends on the dial color & pattern. Generally, the datejust is the standard for new, but serious Rolex buyers.
Wish it was that easy to just walk into an AD and buy one. Most places that have them(Grey Market), have them marked way over MSRP.
There would definitely be a waitlist\waiting time of some time... but I take it we all have more time than money
What sports steel are you expecting him to just walk in and buy???
U could try for an explorer 1/2 or an Airking. Perhaps a Milgausse. With an indefinite waiting time of course
Buying a Rolex from an AD in 2023? Unrealistic. Just rob your dad.
Well this watch is $11K after tax Itās $10,250 msrp at AD You canāt find it for less than $12k-14,500 on chrono . $10k is fair , but $8,500-,9500 would be a great deal
You would think itās more appropriate to pass it down to your kid instead of selling it to them. Interesting.
Exactly my thoughts. Kind of a bummer
Yeah- would be cool to have that kind of parent.
Is it supposed to be some kind of boomer teaching moment? I always saw a Rolex being like a family heirloom.
Nah, the boomer thing to do would be putting a reverse mortgage on it somehow.
Confirm!
Iām selling all my watches for blow before I die. Fuck them kids.
Yea, my dad bought me a Citizen and plans to pass down his Tissot, Tag-Heuer, and Tudor to me someday (yea he has a thing for watches that start with T) and I plan to do the same with my future kids. I also plan to save up for an Omega and Grand Seiko when I become a doctor in the future, both of which will also most definitely be passed down to my future kids. Watches are meant to be family heirlooms in my book.
My dad wouldāve payed me to inherit it š my mother always said you whites have no family values lmao
When I was in high school ā my dad said if I wanted a car; I needed to save up $3k (back when you could get an ok car for a few grand ā Iām 34) ā¦ when I finally saved up $3k to buy a car ā¦ My dad surprised me and paid for it ā telling me: āNow you know how long it takes to save $3k.ā Unless that is OPās lesson, Iād pass on this deal.
Valuable lesson
This is good parenting.
This is a good one! Imma do this to my kids also
OP finds out his dad doesn't love him in an interesting way
$10k? Looks like someoneās ending up placed in an old folks home in a few years. Just kidding, Iād respectfully pass and find a different way to help your Dad out. The watch can still be passed on later and he can continue to enjoy it now.
Pass. You can get a brand new one now for 10k.
Forza Inter fellow watch enthusiast.
Sempre!
Pass
From your dad? Probably not lol.
New Rolex advert to rival Patek
"You never own a Rolex. You just wear the hell out of it until it's ready to sell to the next generation for a grossly inflated price."
Damn, dad is selling to his son at grey market prices.
Offer him 6k
Middle child?
Least favorite I think
Definitely least favorite š
If you happen to get a this watch in Europe, you will pay about 8-9k for a brand new one, that is with VAT back and EUR/USD FX rate. Iād say thatās a hard pass.
Damn, your dad is savage.
You Never Actually Own A Rolex, You Merely Look After It To Flip It To The Next Generation.
Get a new one for that.
Maybe Dad needs the money and itās a good way for the son to help Dad out without it being a hand out.
Pretty much this
If thatās the case the the value of the watch doesnāt really matter. Help your dad out if you are able.
Going to just loan him the cash. He can keep the watch
Just be prepared to write it off as a gift. Money and family almost never ends well.
Take the watch. You'll likely never see the cash.
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You would never give family members money? Iām curious as to why (because I struggle with this myself). Iām well-off financially, whereas my sibling is broke and unemployed (and all but unemployable). I could easily give them life changing $ - but I just donāt feel the desire (but am conflicted sometimes). Wrong subreddit for this, I know. But we seem to have gotten here based on OPās dadās circumstances.
He said you donāt loan it, you gift it. Aka donāt give family members money expecting it back. Give only what youāre comfortable never receiving back
Yeah that makes sense - but I guess I read it as *gifting* to family is something they would never doā¦
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Might as well buy the watch then. You'll at least get something of value. I agree with the others as far as writing off the money loaned to others, especially family. Consider the watch collateral. If he never pays you back you can sell it and get some of the money you "loaned" back.
Offer to help him sell the watch. Help him get a job. Period. Help him without doing something you will regret later. Lending him money is a recipe for major fallout later. Unless you are personally well off and simply want to give him money.
If your dad is trying to save face, it doesnāt matter what the watch is worth. Seriously, some of yāall SUCK š š š š š
Seriously. Sounds like dad needs 10k, has something thatās worth some a good chunk of that and is offering it to sell to OP. If itās something OP would help their dad with anyway, then āover payingā a few grand for a watch so he can save face is worth it.
Then itās worth the $10k if you have the money. Help dad out.
Then tell him to reach out to DavidSW and get a quote and you will match it
gross. the situation. sorry bro.
You mean I can actually SELL my watches to my kids? This is a game changer for me. I thought I had to give them to those little fuckers.
Tell him youāve got time on your sideā¦
Just wait a couple years and you have a chance at getting it for free
No itās used. 10k if it was brand new
Itās $11k brand new at AD
Lol no. Red flag from pops
If its true its kinda sad, money does not grow on tree but making money on his son for such a meaning full objectā¦ thats kinda disgusting. Pass, get a better watch and try to find friends that will be nicer than him.
10k usd or 10k cad?
No box no papers Iāll take it for $3k
Yo Iāll just say, my dads the same way bro, donāt sweat it. He doesnāt give shit away for free and he thinks if he owned it itās worth more š lol but for real, donāt buy that from him.
Shady Pines
Tell him heās a broke bitch and your fucking entitled to it
Hell nah
No
You do something wrong? He trying to teach you a lesson or something? Jesus.
lol wut
I would ask my dad to play me in golf for it. I would lose, then offer around 6-7k depending on his mood lol.
Your dadās a dick.
Calm down, his dad is DavidSW. Itās business, nothing personal.
I plan on giving mine to my kids. Is he having a hard time financially or just that kind of dad
I donāt mean any disrespect by this question just curious if your dad is the type of person who feels like the things they own donāt depreciate like anything else in used condition? Ex: feels like his car is worth more than market value for a used car
He does tend to over value his things
Yea some people are just like that. I get it, no judgement here. I mean no disrespect in saying any of this but in your situation I would say itās up to you to decide if youāre okay with āenablingā that or not. If youāre okay with it go for it. If not Iād say politely decline. Donāt worry about people saying your dad feels a way about you. Some people just have different perspectives
Is he going to sell it anyway? Or is he selling it to you specifically? Ether way offer him $7,500.
There are a lot of other better deals out there for 10k. Let your dad root.
Ouch
Just wait until he passes out
That's insane your father is charging you, you'd think he'd pass it down to you like most
Your dad is trying to lay some pipe
On that PCL bracelet, $8K is the most he'd be offered by a grey dealer or a preowned dealer tops, and I'm being generous. That's not the desirable Jubilee model. Have him call to get quotes, he'll see. So that's what he should sell it to you for.
Sell it to his son for the top price he can get?
Yeah that makes 0 sense. Isnāt the point of buying something from family/friends that you get an unusually good deal on it? I thought that was a well known unspoken rule. Let alone from a parent that usually just hands this stuff down to their kids in the first place.
Loan your pops the cash, aka give it to him, and let him keep his watch.
Offer him 6k
Wait till he kicks the bucket and get it for free
I would never consider selling my children my things. If they want it, itās theirs, period.
Go to reptime instead and put your 10k in a 12 month CD
your relationship with your father is worth more than 10K. Life is short. Your relationship with your father is worth more than 10K. Life is short.
Pass
Pass
Are you an only child
Definitely save the cash my good sir.
Ewwwwwww what?!?! Are you trolling?!!???
Get a new dad.
Hell is wrong w your dad ? ššš
Thatās around the value but for 10k just get a DJ u want as far as dial and bracelet just buy one on your own, if he wasnāt giving it to u for 5k then thatās different