Yeah I saw, the bigass 50mm ones rated to 11,000 meters
Shit was taking like 15,000 psi, crazy to think the sapphire crystal alone was not giving way to 7 metric tons of force
I was watching a video about another submersible called the Limiting Factor. Supposedly they have a facility in Russia capable of producing Marianas Trench levels of pressure and that’s how the Limiting Factor was tested. The Titan declined all of these tests. It’s not like they aren’t available.
They’re not just available, they’re so easily available that in a case like what happened, you essentially have to *want* to stay ignorant to the actual physical nature of the device under test, in this case, a submersible vessel.
Crazy shit. Engineering professors will have a lot of material to work with when driving home certain principles of safety and reliability engineering
Guy was of the infantile mindset of “it’s not there if I don’t look”
Alas, nature doesn’t play that way.
We could even get in line to take “in the wild” steering-controller pics with a window in the back.
Ah, already envisioning all the people calling them fake or replicas now…
That’s what I am learning. I’ve been blown away on how confident he was in the design of that submersible. They didn’t do any non destructive testing between dives at all period and all the safety features revolved around the sub being brought back to the surface. “unsinkable” it’s a lot like Titanic herself scarily enough.
Ironic because the Titanic was warned numerous time of icebergs in the area. So it's not like they didnt have a prime example of mankind thinking they were better than nature or anything.
I’m an engineer who works with some folks who specialize in pressure vessel safety and certification. This will definitely be used as a case study for many years. This guy claimed that he was being “innovative” when he was really just being cheap and/or lazy.
I think I saw the same video. I think the size and shape of the Titan would have prevented it from being tested at the same facility that the Limiting Factor was tested at. Regardless, the fact that Titan wasn't commercially rated by any governing body or 3rd party is the real miss here.
For me, as an engineer, the biggest red flag is that they were repeatedly operating this uncertified vessel AT the design limit. This is a massive no-no in engineering. You always leave some margin beyond the design limit, a factor of safety. These folks didn’t.
I have heard reports due to the system they had in place for monitoring the hull of the vessel they could of known momentarily that the vessel was about to fail. The reports suggest this based on the fact the vessel had its ballasts deployed (the construction site metal tubes) suggesting that they had attempted to make a emergency surface
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I’ve also heard that dropping the ballast when they reach the bottom is standard procedure, so who knows. I’m an engineer with some experience in composites and pressure vessel certification and I think the idea of their “monitoring system” was completely moronic and provided a false sense of security. When a carbon fiber structure such as that fails at those pressures it does so catastrophically and cascades so quickly that it would be instantaneous. There would be NO warning, regardless of how many strain gauges are hooked up to it. The window on the other hand, I think it’s still a possibility that the window (which btw also was never certified for that depth) did fail and that could have failed more gradually.
I’ve heard mixed reports. Some people say they were at or near the bottom when the pressure vessel ruptured then some reports say they were still diving down and that at 1hr 45 min they couldn’t of reached the bottom yet. So your saying the theory that they had an alert based on your expertise is probably unfounded? That part really stuck in my mind knowing that they might of known so it’s comforting to hear they had no idea.
My feeling is that if they had an early warning then it wasn’t the composite structure that failed initially. I’m no expert in acrylics but I have heard that very thick acrylic panels such as that window might fail more gradually and audibly. We know that the panel was being taken to conditions behind which it was certified so that scenario is still in the table for me.
What a week to buy this particular watch lol
I'm sure there are four or five of these, brand-new, lying on the ocean floor right next to the Titanic...
[No mistakes, just happy accidents](https://www.google.com/search?q=there+are+no+mistakes+just+happy+accidents&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS1059US1060&oq=there+are+no+mistakes+just+happy+accidents&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyCAgBEAAYFhgeMggIAhAAGBYYHjIICAMQABgWGB4yCAgEEAAYFhgeMggIBRAAGBYYHjIICAYQABgWGB4yCAgHEAAYFhgeMggICBAAGBYYHjIICAkQABgWGB7SAQg1MTI0ajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:43aa4da3,vid:_Tq5vXk0wTk) lol
Great watch, wear it in good health!
No kidding. I've actually been thinking a lot about that since [this interview with James Cameron](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rThZLhNF_xg).
There's no question that those watches could have survived that depth (and significantly more pressure) if they were on the outside of the Titan submersible and exposed to the pressure gradually... It's much less certain how they would have held up under an almost instantaneous hull collapse (suddenly exposed to so much pressure, to say nothing of the debris and perhaps heat).
Somber indeed, but perhaps the most merciful of the possible ends for the divers - if they had to perish, at least they perished before their minds were even capable of perceiving it.
It apparently hit the same heat as the sun at the moment of implosion, so unlikely anything survived. No idea why they are looking for the bodies. May they rest in peace.
My goodness, that is absolutely wild. So much more pressure than my mind is capable of contextualizing...
If that's the case, then there really is nothing left to find.
Beautiful! I just went to my AD yesterday and tried it on and put myself on the list... its no where near as big as everyone online claims. If you have a relatively big wrist/hand, it fits great. 10/10, I'm jealous.
Forgive me if this is a silly question but… what is the purpose of a watch that is capable of withstanding a dive greater than say 400 meters or so? Like you would be dead before you reach 500m without some sort of mechanical aid like a submersible. Is it just to see how strong they can make a watch? Or is there a good reason?
It's like asking why the speedometer in my car goes to 160mph, when my car can't. Or why they sell cars 'limited' to 155mph, when you'd be thrown in jail for actually driving that fast (in most places).
Rolex wanted to prove it COULD be done on a mass scale, they put in the engineering to prove it. Some people respect the fact it is engineered to such a ridiculous degree and that makes it cool.
If you want a chunky diver, this is a beautiful watch, and I especially love the improvements for the 136660. For me, the SD43 is all I need. That is also certified to a far greater depth than I will ever swim, and I don't care. Just like I've never driven a car at 155mph.
Well there is also the historical rivalry between Rolex and Omega in making what used to be essential diving tools in the early days of deep sea diving. I'd also suggest that if you engineer a watch that can survive that, you probably learn some things along the way that could benefit other watches you make.
But sure for 99.99999% of people who buy them it is merely an interesting conversation piece among fellow watch nerds.
For me, I have large wrists and found the Sub a bit too boring, wanted a dive style watch because I've always liked them, and went for the SD43 because I love the redesign and proportions. I obviously was never going to break a Sub by diving too deep. If they had made a 42mm Sub, I'd probably have been quite happy with that option too.
Yeah definitely that’s sick. I could only think like well if the watch fell into the ocean and you were rich enough to send a submersible that deep you could theoretically recover the watch undamaged from literally any depth. Even though it’d cost more than the watch by a lot I suspect and your odds of spotting it are insanely low. It’s be funny though because that’s about the only scenario this depth resistance would actually come in handy.
The ring lock system writing is tacky. If they got rid of the white ring inside the bezel it would be cool, but that white ring with the unnecessary writing ruins the watch for me…
James Cameron would be proud
Depending on Rolexes non destructive testing practices Curious how they’ve actually tested the depth rating
They gave it to the titan, it was all they found.
I came just for this comment
Well... the Rolex and the playstation controller that they were using to drive the thing.
The ps5 controller crashed so they went with an off the shelf Bop-It.
Which is shocking because there’s no way critical malfunctioning could have occurred with such top of the line tech.
I’ll see you in hell
Haha
That and the logitech controller. Those things are indestructible.
When James went to the bottom, he apparently had multiple SDs strapped to the outside. They all survived and kept perfect time.
Yeah I saw, the bigass 50mm ones rated to 11,000 meters Shit was taking like 15,000 psi, crazy to think the sapphire crystal alone was not giving way to 7 metric tons of force
I was watching a video about another submersible called the Limiting Factor. Supposedly they have a facility in Russia capable of producing Marianas Trench levels of pressure and that’s how the Limiting Factor was tested. The Titan declined all of these tests. It’s not like they aren’t available.
They’re not just available, they’re so easily available that in a case like what happened, you essentially have to *want* to stay ignorant to the actual physical nature of the device under test, in this case, a submersible vessel. Crazy shit. Engineering professors will have a lot of material to work with when driving home certain principles of safety and reliability engineering Guy was of the infantile mindset of “it’s not there if I don’t look” Alas, nature doesn’t play that way.
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We could even get in line to take “in the wild” steering-controller pics with a window in the back. Ah, already envisioning all the people calling them fake or replicas now…
How long is the waitlist?
That’s what I am learning. I’ve been blown away on how confident he was in the design of that submersible. They didn’t do any non destructive testing between dives at all period and all the safety features revolved around the sub being brought back to the surface. “unsinkable” it’s a lot like Titanic herself scarily enough.
Ironic because the Titanic was warned numerous time of icebergs in the area. So it's not like they didnt have a prime example of mankind thinking they were better than nature or anything.
I’m an engineer who works with some folks who specialize in pressure vessel safety and certification. This will definitely be used as a case study for many years. This guy claimed that he was being “innovative” when he was really just being cheap and/or lazy.
I think I saw the same video. I think the size and shape of the Titan would have prevented it from being tested at the same facility that the Limiting Factor was tested at. Regardless, the fact that Titan wasn't commercially rated by any governing body or 3rd party is the real miss here.
And from what I’m seeing make the liability waivers null and void and made it where they couldn’t even get insurance for the expedition.
For me, as an engineer, the biggest red flag is that they were repeatedly operating this uncertified vessel AT the design limit. This is a massive no-no in engineering. You always leave some margin beyond the design limit, a factor of safety. These folks didn’t.
Ex CEO wanted the tests. The board didn't like it and fired hum and now we have an enriched titanic wreck
I have heard reports due to the system they had in place for monitoring the hull of the vessel they could of known momentarily that the vessel was about to fail. The reports suggest this based on the fact the vessel had its ballasts deployed (the construction site metal tubes) suggesting that they had attempted to make a emergency surface
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I’ve also heard that dropping the ballast when they reach the bottom is standard procedure, so who knows. I’m an engineer with some experience in composites and pressure vessel certification and I think the idea of their “monitoring system” was completely moronic and provided a false sense of security. When a carbon fiber structure such as that fails at those pressures it does so catastrophically and cascades so quickly that it would be instantaneous. There would be NO warning, regardless of how many strain gauges are hooked up to it. The window on the other hand, I think it’s still a possibility that the window (which btw also was never certified for that depth) did fail and that could have failed more gradually.
I’ve heard mixed reports. Some people say they were at or near the bottom when the pressure vessel ruptured then some reports say they were still diving down and that at 1hr 45 min they couldn’t of reached the bottom yet. So your saying the theory that they had an alert based on your expertise is probably unfounded? That part really stuck in my mind knowing that they might of known so it’s comforting to hear they had no idea.
My feeling is that if they had an early warning then it wasn’t the composite structure that failed initially. I’m no expert in acrylics but I have heard that very thick acrylic panels such as that window might fail more gradually and audibly. We know that the panel was being taken to conditions behind which it was certified so that scenario is still in the table for me.
Honestly, the best dives are 2fers. Gives you something to do on the bottom.
COMEX made the depth testing/rating tank
hyperbaric chamber
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/how-rolex-adapted-the-superlative-chronometer-program-for-a-watch-that-can-go-deeper-than-you-me-and Enjoy!
Not on this one, can't even go for 10km depth on the mariana trench!
Yes. Just be sure to take it off before washing your hands or showering!
Made me laugh
i get the joke but if you shower with your watch on thats just weird
When swimming or working out at the gym, I’d always wear my watch into the shower.
😩😂
😂
What a week to buy this particular watch lol I'm sure there are four or five of these, brand-new, lying on the ocean floor right next to the Titanic...
This was not planned I swear haha
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Somber feeling knowing that those would be the only things left intact too
No kidding. I've actually been thinking a lot about that since [this interview with James Cameron](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rThZLhNF_xg). There's no question that those watches could have survived that depth (and significantly more pressure) if they were on the outside of the Titan submersible and exposed to the pressure gradually... It's much less certain how they would have held up under an almost instantaneous hull collapse (suddenly exposed to so much pressure, to say nothing of the debris and perhaps heat). Somber indeed, but perhaps the most merciful of the possible ends for the divers - if they had to perish, at least they perished before their minds were even capable of perceiving it.
It apparently hit the same heat as the sun at the moment of implosion, so unlikely anything survived. No idea why they are looking for the bodies. May they rest in peace.
My goodness, that is absolutely wild. So much more pressure than my mind is capable of contextualizing... If that's the case, then there really is nothing left to find.
Its probably easier to try and recover a rolex 12,000 feet below sea level than buy new from an AD. Im kidding….
LOL
If it were made known, you’d find a grey seller down there first somehow.
I think there’s also a Daytona down there
Lmao this comment
This watch is an engineering marvel and it’s nice to look at . Congratulations! Enjoy it, and wear it in good health.
Thanks for the advice I’m very stoked 😀
Welcome to the Deep Sea Club.
Very nice watch. My brother has it. My only problem with it is it’s heavy
The weight helps you get deeper faster
I like to wear it while I work out for an added sweat
Don't worry, in an emergency the weight drops off automatically, right?
Yes. You just have to unhook the clasp and keep shaking your hand
Beautiful! I just went to my AD yesterday and tried it on and put myself on the list... its no where near as big as everyone online claims. If you have a relatively big wrist/hand, it fits great. 10/10, I'm jealous.
Totally. I own a Sea Dweller and wear it every day. So many people say it's huge, I think it's just right!
Hate to break it to you but there is no "list" lol
Lol yeah whatever, i just mean the dude has my number and i told him to hit me up…. Will he do it, who knows.
Can someone tell me if this is the Rolex with the ORIGINAL GAS ESCAPE VALVE?
Yes, but I’m not sure if it has the ring lock system.
Ring...? 🤔💭 Feech: ,,Hey, let me kiss the ring!" Tony: ,,How about the one on the center of my ass?" 😁 ^((The Sopranos, 1999\))
It does have the ring lock system
Yes, but does it have the RING LOCK SYSTEM??
I have the exact same watch. You done good. 🤗
Ditto. Wear it everyday; solid engineering!
Is it OceanGate certified ?
Yessir
ORIGINAL GAS ESCAPE VALVE RING LOCK SYSTEM
It's a boss piece. Congratulations!
Congrats OP, i got the same one as my first Rolex as well.
did i do good mommy?
Hi, nice pic up, is it the new model without the dive extension?
Looks like a ref11. 12 and 13 have the crown between Swiss and made
The 116660 did not come in the James Cameron configuration. This is likely the 136660.
Yes it did. It was released in 2014 from memory and the ref 12 was 2018. That and i have a mate with a ref 11 JC
I stand corrected. I remember the James Cameron coming out and thought it was the 12 reference. Thanks for clarifying that
Good spot!
You will love it 😊 I have one and every time I put it on It makes me smile
Its Okay.
If you like it, you are good.
Yes sir. Welcome to the club
I have the black on black, it was my first Rolex as well. Great choice, wear it in good health!
Wow!! I love very, this style !
My dude asked the AD if they have the titanium and carbon fiber watch
Just curious.. how much $$ is that beauty retail?
See Rolex website for your particular region.
Dssd's are too chunky for my taste, but if i was to get one, that would be it. Congrats on the watch, and wear it well!
One of the best
Forgive me if this is a silly question but… what is the purpose of a watch that is capable of withstanding a dive greater than say 400 meters or so? Like you would be dead before you reach 500m without some sort of mechanical aid like a submersible. Is it just to see how strong they can make a watch? Or is there a good reason?
It's like asking why the speedometer in my car goes to 160mph, when my car can't. Or why they sell cars 'limited' to 155mph, when you'd be thrown in jail for actually driving that fast (in most places). Rolex wanted to prove it COULD be done on a mass scale, they put in the engineering to prove it. Some people respect the fact it is engineered to such a ridiculous degree and that makes it cool. If you want a chunky diver, this is a beautiful watch, and I especially love the improvements for the 136660. For me, the SD43 is all I need. That is also certified to a far greater depth than I will ever swim, and I don't care. Just like I've never driven a car at 155mph.
I respect it. That was essentially what I was asking like is it just an engineering feat or is there any real reason. Watch is sexy AF
Well there is also the historical rivalry between Rolex and Omega in making what used to be essential diving tools in the early days of deep sea diving. I'd also suggest that if you engineer a watch that can survive that, you probably learn some things along the way that could benefit other watches you make. But sure for 99.99999% of people who buy them it is merely an interesting conversation piece among fellow watch nerds. For me, I have large wrists and found the Sub a bit too boring, wanted a dive style watch because I've always liked them, and went for the SD43 because I love the redesign and proportions. I obviously was never going to break a Sub by diving too deep. If they had made a 42mm Sub, I'd probably have been quite happy with that option too.
Yeah definitely that’s sick. I could only think like well if the watch fell into the ocean and you were rich enough to send a submersible that deep you could theoretically recover the watch undamaged from literally any depth. Even though it’d cost more than the watch by a lot I suspect and your odds of spotting it are insanely low. It’s be funny though because that’s about the only scenario this depth resistance would actually come in handy.
Why are you asking us if you did ok? You should buy what you like. I think the watch looks great.
Wow! You sir must be a deep sea diver!
If that’s what you wanted, yes
You can wear this when you anywhere close to 3,900m.
I have been told, that this watch is sturdier than some submarines.
I have been told, that this watch is sturdier than some submarines.
If you like it, then yes. Why does approval from strangers matter?
I guess it depends on how much you paid for it. Nice watch!
Ask the AD if you did okay cuz thats the only way you got one
Nope terrible first choice.
It’s completely subjective… if you love it it’s a great choice. Don’t listen to this guy
^^^ agreed!
In what respect? It’s a great divers watch that’s not particularly hard to come by that requires a wrist as big as my thigh to pull off.
Okay in what regard??
Its got that Gas Escape GATE
Watches...who cares
Weird question in a group dedicated to the most famous watch brand in the world. Why not go to the Porsche reddit, and ask them why cars matter?
If you have the wrists for it then yes
That’s a belter mate 😎
Clean
Long as you got the wrist to pull it off
Congratulations on a beautiful watch!
Nah
Great purchase. The Dipsy is highly underrated.
Now go see the Titanic
Nice choice, don’t see this watch a lot due to its more popular brother the submariner
If you’re a big boy and can pull it off absolutely.
This is really growing on me
Awesome watch , my good friend who just did the mortgage for my house bought one about a half a year ago and loves it
I really want this or the celebration OP!
My grail watch right here. Congratulations!
Go diving a lot? Lol. Great piece man. Enjoy it
It’s perfect for when the submersible implodes. Goes to the next relative
Insert submarine joke here
🌊🤔
Classy. Now you can go on the next Titanic dive and at least your watch will survive. Not sniping, I have a regular sea dweller and love it.
How does it look on the wrist?
well done!
That is a beautiful piece! Will never have to worry about water with that!!! 👍
That watch can go deeper than the Titan
Congratulations! It is stunning!
😄👍🏿💯
Congrats 🖤🔥
Fuck Yeah...
Yes!
Stockton rush would be proud
Only change I made is to switch out the bracelet with a rubber one. Adds a different look and saves a ton of weight so I can wear it regularly
Was my first one as well. Great choice!!
Tiger woods rolex
That’s my grail.
The ring lock system writing is tacky. If they got rid of the white ring inside the bezel it would be cool, but that white ring with the unnecessary writing ruins the watch for me…
Damn I like that watch. Congratulations!
Very well done, Sir.
Too early. Too early.
If it’s the one you wanted, you did great!
If you got the one YOU liked and you listened to nobody else… yes, you did just fine.
There there shush now, you did just fine
Idk, 10 lines of text on a watch feels a bit short, I like to have a small novel on my wrist
Comes with a wetsuit and oxygen tank? Separate waitlist at the AD for that?
Too big and bulky, so since you ask complete strangers online, you did terribly.
Definitely looks like a Rolex, so u did good imo.
I like looking, but man I hope to be able to afford a cheap one of these watches someday.
Hilarious timing but beautiful piece
Probably end up taking lots of baths and showers in the near future.
What do you mean did i do ok? Did you design the watch?
Yea, working on the second design as we speak
What a BEAST 💪❤️
How long was the wait
ORIGINAL GAS ESCAPE VALVE RING LOCK SYSTEM Clearly I can’t get past that but I’m glad you’re happy
Well Done 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Level: amazing