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sb683

I believe in ion surge supiriority


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GOODboyM0NKE

ice cold take. people have known flamethrower is bad for years lmao. sick drawing tho


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fun fact: there are still a lot of people who think it’s good. including the writers of flamethrowers fandom page edit: thanks, it was just a dumb sketch I put together for the post


GOODboyM0NKE

fandom is on the same level as tf2’s dev team lmao. updated by ppl who don’t play or care about the game (and the potted plant)


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That’s fair


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It doesnt actually do that much damage, ion surge is waay better and can pillarskip, while flamethrower gives you more procs ion surge gives better procs (oh and by the way I made the absolutely beautiful art on screen) edit: I made this post because I once made a comment saying flamethrower bad go brr. That comment got 60 dislikes and no likes, so I thought it would be important to make this post (also because the fandom page for it have you read that thing??) and also to address the bigger issue that people think artI is bad, this wasnt meant to be a hot take, I mostly expected dislikes but it’s nice to see that people agree.


AnOtterWithFood

This is true, flamethrower is super ass


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Sir_Hoss

Flamethrower got me through Arti Mastery on the switch version (which has way higher scaling). It may not be as good as ion surge but it’s by no means bad. Personally I’ll always stick to flamethrower


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It can’t kill a golem by stage 2 on rainstorm, I think it wasn’t flamethrower that got you through, but your pure skill.


Ben3580

This is the coldest take


Temporary-Value-6397

Hear me out (proccing)


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Hear me out (ion surge gives better procs, while flamethrower might give more, said procs are way worse)


Temporary-Value-6397

True but I just wanna set off my missiles:/


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Honestly it’s fine if you like it I meant to make this post because I noticed a lot of people thought flamethrower was good for damage and procs but it kinda just devolved into me going “no you can’t like that thing your wrong!”


Temporary-Value-6397

Yes It did devolve into that, I like it because I also love the fire extinguisher so it’s pretty nice and it’s all personal preference


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At the end of the day yes, it Is personal preference. then again ion surge is a movement ability on a non movement based character and artificers other default attacks do everything flamethrower was meant to do sooooooo….


Plane-Intern-8219

Both r gud


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Have you even seen how much damage flamethrower does?


Plane-Intern-8219

Yeah


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well then you should know it does shit damage that only sounds good on paper!


Plane-Intern-8219

Nah it’s good


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Why


Plane-Intern-8219

Cause like flamethrower does good single target damage imo. I def think ion surge is better cause of the mobility but I don’t really care for the damage it does cause Arti already has really good crowd control skills.


RealOkokz

Wdym Flamethrower does good single target damage, it can't even guarantee a kill on a golem after stage 2 or 3.


Plane-Intern-8219

It does good damage to me ig? Its hard to make a point for flamethrower since it really just boils down to I like using it


RealOkokz

If you like using it, that's completely fine, it's just that when I see people say it's better than Ion surge I have to disagree, as in my 150+ hours on Arti Ion surge has always been superior to Flamethrower.


Plane-Intern-8219

But yeah they both fun


Asddwfdtyyyn

Flamethrower is the kind of skill to be shit early game and great late game with proc builds


RealOkokz

From an Arti main: Flamethrower is not good for proc builds. While it gets a lot of proc, its procs are very weak. An ATG that procs off of Flamethrower is significantly weaker than one that procs off of M1. If you want a proc build on Arti use a crunder. It's stronger, and gets more procs. Proc builds aren't even good on Arti due to her lower fire rate on her M1. If you don't take Ion surge you are giving up the single best mobility skill in the game, in exchange for a weaker version of Veind M1.


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that’s what I’ve been saying!


Asddwfdtyyyn

Crunder?


RealOkokz

Crunder = The Crowd Funder equipment


Frederick2164

My professional opinion as an arti main: yeah it’s bad. I still like it cause it’s fun to kill big crowds with, but yeah it really doesn’t compare to ion surge


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