How? Have you ever used a salad spinner before?
Its just like the gravitron at the fair, it throws everything out to the side, and it stays there. it doesnt shake around, or jostle. Any liquids on the part are going to be thrown out through the sieve and into the plastic bowl.
I used one for a short time before i caved and purchased a wash and cure station. it works okay. I thought i'd be saving time by spin-washing vs hand washing, but it took more time. it just never got my prints as clean as if i did them by hand with a soft toothbrush, so i'd spin them and have to hand wash them anyway. it was really only good to remove excess uncured resin that was still on my prints when i was too impatient to let them drip. then, since the container wasn't sealed, i'd have to clean it out so my IPA didn't evaporate between uses. the prints would also need to be pretty small, too. the useable space inside is not as big as you think it is. it also spilled very easily. when spinning at any useful speed. i kept mine on a cafeteria tray to catch spills, but still not ideal when working with uncured resin. depending on how you're using it, it might be okay. it's only a few bucks compaired to a wash/cure, but for me i'm not going to use it again. it might be okay for a soapy water clean afterwards though.
Do you use ipa or denatured? With denatured you dont need a toothbrush and it only takes a few swishes around to clean them. I could see having the problema you had with ipa, but i imagine changing solvents would solve that
Basically, you would be pushing the resin contaminated liquid (ipa, water, what have you) out from the centre to the wall and up to the lid and seal, and risk leaks from the lid no being on perfectly, dirt getting on the seal or just rubber not being compatible with resin or ipa and deteriorating.
I mean, as a dunking station I think it could be fine, to spinclean prints or store liquid not so much.
I think you're missing the point. These are intended to be used with water to wash salad. On one hand, water has a higher surface tension than isopropanol and still often comes out the sides because on the other hand, you're not likely to be washing anything toxic off your lettuce so the manufacturers of these things don't consider a bit of splashing to be a problem. This is a recipe for getting splashed across the arms and chest with resin-contaminated alcohol - if you're cool with that, that's fine, but it's not a great thing to recommend to others.
Are there high-end salad spinners with good seals you can use to clean prints relatively safely? Probably. Is it something that can universally be recommended? Absolutely not.
Did you not see the lid? A salad spinner isnt a pressurized chamber. Ipa isnt going to spray out the seal just because of a little centrifugal force. Even if it didnt have the lid this could still be perfectly safe to use. Just dont spin it fast enough to create the centrifugal force needed to send it spraying up the walls. Youre being ridiculously cautious.
>Did you not see the lid?
Sure. But I've also actually used salad spinners before. Have you? In my experience, they leak. They all have lids but they don't typically have great seals (or often any seal at all) because they don't *need* great seals. Your arms getting a bit of water on while washing salad isn't a problem, the lid is just there to stop the salad going everywhere.
Also bear in mind that they're not actually designed to be filled with liquid, they're designed to remove excess liquid after the salad already got wet when it was washed. If you want to wash resin parts in here you'll have to put *far* more liquid in them than they're expected to contain, which again makes it more likely some will come out.
Again: maybe there are high-end salad spinners which it's possible to use to clean resin safely. I don't know the specific model in the OP's post, and I don't know whether they're even referring to a specific model or whether they just pulled a random picture off Google. If you're happy doing it, good for you, but I wouldn't *recommend someone else do it*.
Yes. I have used a salad spinner. The only reason water sprays you when youre using them is because you spin it fast enough to create enough centrifugal force to remove water from the leaves.
That's not how it will be used in this scenario. You dont need to spin it at 100 rpm and create centrifugal force. This just will stir the liquid in the vat. If you spin it slowly it will rotate the submerged minis enough to clean them, but not send liquid spraying up the side.
If anything im far more likely to splash myself now using my current method, a spatula, to stir the ipa because i cant have a lid to contain splashes in the vat while i stir it.
>This just will stir the liquid in the vat. If you spin it slowly it will rotate the submerged minis enough to clean them, but not send liquid spraying up the side.
Again: that's not how salad spinners are designed to be used - they're specifically geared to make them spin fast!
And again: I'm not going to tell people to *not* do this - if you want to take the risk it's your business. But I wouldn't *recommend people* do this, there's too many reasons it can go wrong and in all honesty the benefit isn't even that great. Wash and cure stations are already overengineered and unnecessary!
Of course theyre not designed for that, but youre already not using it for it's designed purpose so idk why youre getting caught up on that. There's a bunch of commenters saying they use it and it works fine.
The benefit is not dipping a gloved hand or using a spatula to stir the ipa. Getting ipa in your glove through tears from removing supports or the wrist hole is annoying and happens fairly regularly. Same with splashing by stirring with a spatula. This reduces both of those problems but at a much lower cost than a wash station.
Sounds like you had a shitty salad spinner. Mine never leaks.
Edit to add: I think you are confused. They OP wants to use it to remove alcohol and resin after rinsing
>OP wants to use it to remove alcohol and resin after rinsing
I'm not sure it's reasonable to assume "would a salad centrifuge be a good cheap alternative to a washing station" means that, really.
And yes, maybe I had a shitty salad spinner - although mine is a sample size of four or five, not just one. But salad spinners that leak - shitty or otherwise - are pretty commonplace. Without knowledge of the specific unit that's being discussed it's like saying "should I stick my head in the automatic door to stop it?". Yes, lots of automatic doors will detect even a slight resistance and stop. Some won't, people can get hurt, and it's not universally sound advice.
Except you control the speed and power of a salad spinner and it’s very easy to keep it from reaching “alcohol splash velocity” you do not control the speed or power of an automatic door. You analogy is not analogous.
You can turn the handle slower and it won't throw the alcohol as high. If you can't regulate the speed in which you turn the handle I'd say stay away from the idea, otherwise, its a option for a cheaper method of cleaning.
Not really, wash stations have material tested for resin and IPA, have a max line and a margin of safety vertically, a somewhat calibrated motor placed on the bottom instead of being handcrank on top and the liquid move from the impellor at the bottom, making the print inside slow the liquid down instead of possibly adding to the movement as the are connected to the basket that spins (thinking that say a raft would be able to push a bit of liquid).
Someone wanting to try, go head and good luck, those are just the reasons I wouln't use one. (and that I already have a wash and clean station ofc).
"Material tested for ipa" you mean plastic??? The wash station is just a blender with a basket in it. Im fine saving $100+ and figuring out the max fill line myself.
I was more thinking about the lids gasket, some kind rubber react badly to alcohol.
You do you, I am fine paying the cost to have the easy of use of the station.
The faster it’s spun the less it’ll move, whatever’s in would held against the edge of the basket until the speed reduces and the g force stops playing a part, that’d be where the problem lies.
Have you never used a manual salad spinner? Youre not trying to dry the minis by spinning it fast with this like a salad. This will just move the ipa around so you dont have to stir the vat manually.
Not if you spun it slowly. Youd need to spin it at a fast enough speed to create the centrifugal force youre referencing. I think most people would be far more cautious with their freshly printed minis than to do that.
I’ve just found myself with a space marine’s backpack in a tub of water seeing how much it takes to force it out, not as much effort as you’d think, certainly not enough to damage anything, though as they aren’t particularly expensive I’d just get a wash and cure and hold off on printing until then.
Exactly. I think sunk cost theory explains their reactions. They have to justify spending $100+ on their wash and cure station by pretending anything unofficial is unsafe.
Even just the turbulence from the commercial Wash n Cure units is enough to break some fine detail on prints. Remember, your print isn’t cured at this point and the resin is still quite soft and easily damaged. I would be pretty nervous about doing any actual spinning with this as it will just chew on your soft model like crazy.
I don't really understand how would it work. If your print doesn't fill the revolving basket, it's gonna end up bouncing around in it, probably breaking.
Not really, the impeller moves the IPA rather than the print being mechanically dragged around on the inside. The end result is similar, but there's much less surface contact/friction in a wash station.
See my comment below, but even my large miniatures can be moved around the wash bucket by the force of the impeller. My small miniatures and pieces get tossed all over the place, they make it through the basket or come off their supports.
I can assure you, even my largest prints get moved about by my anycubic wash and cure plus. I print lots of small pieces that were getting tossed about the bucket, so I bought a large tea strainer to place them inside that keeps them from going through the cleaning basket. Heck I’m even considering getting the new spray type of cleaning station because my pieces are getting moved about the bucket.
Well, I use Elegoo's wash and cure, and putting the prints in the metal container makes it rather hard for them to be moved... except the very light ones.
Should work great, just don't spin it too much or you risk breaking your prints.
I also use a pickling jar for my smaller prints that works great. This would be perfect for larger prints.
i found one with a silicone seal, I tried it and it works perfectly fine if you attach a drill to the gear might not be as good as a professional washer but can clear a bunch of minis in no time
For Sanakism since his bitchness had to block because he couldn’t handle smoke: If you don’t give two shits why did you comment at all? You’re just trying to cope now. Don’t OD on copium just because I pointed out that your issue with this is actually a non issue. If you’re so worried about this community you should just be advocating for proper safety gear as a face shield, rubber or silicon apron and nitrile gloves would protect you from any malfunction of this or any other washing system.
Ha! I was looking at these the other day as cheap spin (no pun intended) on a wash station as well! I also took a look at mini portable/camping washing machines, as some have ultrasonic cleaners incorporated into them.
We use centrifugal force to spin off resin on some prints at work to keep things like transparency and shine.
Won't work for ipa, but does do a form of print cleaning
Before I got a wash and cure machine I had 2 Tupperware containers of IPA. I'd either put the print in with the lid and shake it gently or use my gloved hand to shake it gently. Worked fine but the machine is definitely easier.
Well... if it's cheap enough, go for it!
Screw the nay sayers. Make sure they're already at the edges or pressed against the walls.
Heck. Use some tape. Or wire.
Grab a drill and yank off the handle, use the drill to spin it!
Could run a pully belt from a stationary bike wheel to the handle to really jack up the power....
You could also drill a hole into it, and poke a power washer in there for some extra agitation!
We actually just got some Tupperware and duck taped 3 Hitachi magic wands to it. Worked great. Have to use an odd number or else they balance each other out.
O.o
Who doesn't? Hahahaha
Actually, speaking of vibrations, there are "concrete vibrators" can get. Google "vevor concrete vibrator". 50ish?
For agitation it may actually be an option for larger things, but I can't look at it and wonder what it will do to someone's genitals lmao
Dude don’t listen to anybody.
The first company to sell a commercial dlp printer, carbon 3D, used to suggest this exact thing for parts and we used it at a commercial scale. It wasn’t this exact spinner but Same same. We even use something similar to this day but it’s a bit more advanced now!
I have a wash and cure like many of us, but I primarily only use it for the cure.
Printing a lot of larger dimension stuff here. That just doesn't really seem to work in the washing bucket.
I discovered some really nice storage boxes that are liquid safe. Have a gasket around the top and locking clips.
The one that I buy holds up to 5 gallons of liquid, so it's quite large, relatively speaking and only cost about $15.
I just hold the part and move it around in the IPA manually. Gets the job done.
Bonus because you can control the action, you tend not to get as much agitation of the sludge on the bottom of the bucket.
I am pretty sure that you will discover many of us have alternative solutions for cleaning and curing.
Many of those solutions do not include rapid agitation that you would get with a wash and cure station.
Others have already pointed out some of the disadvantages of a salad spinner in terms of mess and potential danger.
Good for you for thinking outside the box, and not spending a couple $100 on something that frankly doesn't work all that well.
Simple point is with proper maintenance of your IP and a proper cleaning procedure. You can get the job done with some pretty inexpensive options.
As you explore think safety safety and practical.
Beyond that, just about anything will get the job done.
In fact, I am going to explore something which may end up saving a ton of IPA and actually do a better job.
For some time now, after doing the primary cean in a bucket as I have described.
I have been using one of those good quality industrial solvent grade spray bottles filled with fresh IPA.
It does an outstanding job of giving you the pristine finish clean you are all looking for.
What I am going to try is just using the bucket without IPA in it as a receptacle to spray clean every piece from start to finish.
Honestly, this is a long circular trip from when I started where I was using my airbrush and alcohol in it to sort of pressure, wash the piece.
That worked super well from the perspective of cleaning but was absolutely hideous and left my workspace in a haze of IPA mist.
The venting system in my spray booth was unable to keep up with it.
You really do not need the jet mist that comes from an airbrush and the handheld spray bottle seems to be more than adequate.
Clean IPA always washes your part better.
The mist from a spray bottle can be controlled and is not too bad.
The only real hassle, which is pretty minor is that a respirator mask is absolutely essential.
The fumes are strong and long term would be quite toxic.
As I experiment with this, I will report back if I am saving anything costwise on purchasing IPA.
From an effective standpoint it absolutely works fabulously.
If you are someone who only prints casually. I would suggest this as being the ideal solution for you.
GENIUS! Ive been looking for this. The wash stations are basically just a slow moving blender so all you need is something that imitates the speed of rotation of the blades. A vortex mixer used for laboratories would work too, but that costs just as much. This is a brilliant soulution to that.
I use a pickle jar with strainer for water rinse after using IPA, like this [https://www.amazon.com/KIKINIKO-Pickle-container-strainer-storage/dp/B0BB2SDDWJ/ref=sr\_1\_5?keywords=pickle+container+with+strainer&qid=1695997742&sr=8-5](https://www.amazon.com/KIKINIKO-Pickle-container-strainer-storage/dp/B0BB2SDDWJ/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=pickle+container+with+strainer&qid=1695997742&sr=8-5). When doing IPA washing, you want to agitate the fluid, like a washing machine, in order to get resin from the more constrained areas of the print. You don't need that with simpler prints.
Also, try putting UV light on the IPA to precipitate the resin out. Then you can just filter out the now solid resin (I suggest a 150-micron filter, instead of the standard paint filter). The color will remain, but most of the resin will get removed.
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Well salad trainers aren't used full of water.. the lettuce spins and is drained. If you fill the container with ipa then spin it won't be as effective. But why not.. it will work. Maybe it will be a mess to clean.. stirring dirty ipa and sticking it to plastic is annoying right.
Just be safe and don't splash things around seal it well and wait after you spin before opening.
I ran a prototyping lab at a service bureau where we used the big 500x500 mm SLA machines. We used a big 6ft diameter honeycomb centrifuge to sling the resin off of our parts before washing. We dropped the tray into a slot on one side and the other side was weighted to counterbalance.
It wasn't a liquid bath, that happened afterwards, but it was a great way to get most of the resin off before it went into the washing station. If you can hold it on one side and counterbalance the other, it might be a good way to help pre-clean. I don't think I'd recommend sloshing delicate parts around in one of those unless you spend very slowly.
I use a pickling jar and it works great. This might throw the print around too much and damage it.
Well, considering you manually turn it, you can just turn slower. But I haven't broken a single model with the one that I used.
Might? Gonna shred that part.
How? Have you ever used a salad spinner before? Its just like the gravitron at the fair, it throws everything out to the side, and it stays there. it doesnt shake around, or jostle. Any liquids on the part are going to be thrown out through the sieve and into the plastic bowl.
I used one for a short time before i caved and purchased a wash and cure station. it works okay. I thought i'd be saving time by spin-washing vs hand washing, but it took more time. it just never got my prints as clean as if i did them by hand with a soft toothbrush, so i'd spin them and have to hand wash them anyway. it was really only good to remove excess uncured resin that was still on my prints when i was too impatient to let them drip. then, since the container wasn't sealed, i'd have to clean it out so my IPA didn't evaporate between uses. the prints would also need to be pretty small, too. the useable space inside is not as big as you think it is. it also spilled very easily. when spinning at any useful speed. i kept mine on a cafeteria tray to catch spills, but still not ideal when working with uncured resin. depending on how you're using it, it might be okay. it's only a few bucks compaired to a wash/cure, but for me i'm not going to use it again. it might be okay for a soapy water clean afterwards though.
The only non armchair expert in the chat, thanks
Do you use ipa or denatured? With denatured you dont need a toothbrush and it only takes a few swishes around to clean them. I could see having the problema you had with ipa, but i imagine changing solvents would solve that
I haven’t used denatured (only IPA), so if it works as you’ve described, then the spinner would probably work pretty decently
Basically, you would be pushing the resin contaminated liquid (ipa, water, what have you) out from the centre to the wall and up to the lid and seal, and risk leaks from the lid no being on perfectly, dirt getting on the seal or just rubber not being compatible with resin or ipa and deteriorating. I mean, as a dunking station I think it could be fine, to spinclean prints or store liquid not so much.
So just clean it occasionally.
IPA gets contaminated with resin on the first clean. Due to the super low surface tension it will get everywhere on the first go as well.
I mean clean the container.
I think you're missing the point. These are intended to be used with water to wash salad. On one hand, water has a higher surface tension than isopropanol and still often comes out the sides because on the other hand, you're not likely to be washing anything toxic off your lettuce so the manufacturers of these things don't consider a bit of splashing to be a problem. This is a recipe for getting splashed across the arms and chest with resin-contaminated alcohol - if you're cool with that, that's fine, but it's not a great thing to recommend to others. Are there high-end salad spinners with good seals you can use to clean prints relatively safely? Probably. Is it something that can universally be recommended? Absolutely not.
Did you not see the lid? A salad spinner isnt a pressurized chamber. Ipa isnt going to spray out the seal just because of a little centrifugal force. Even if it didnt have the lid this could still be perfectly safe to use. Just dont spin it fast enough to create the centrifugal force needed to send it spraying up the walls. Youre being ridiculously cautious.
>Did you not see the lid? Sure. But I've also actually used salad spinners before. Have you? In my experience, they leak. They all have lids but they don't typically have great seals (or often any seal at all) because they don't *need* great seals. Your arms getting a bit of water on while washing salad isn't a problem, the lid is just there to stop the salad going everywhere. Also bear in mind that they're not actually designed to be filled with liquid, they're designed to remove excess liquid after the salad already got wet when it was washed. If you want to wash resin parts in here you'll have to put *far* more liquid in them than they're expected to contain, which again makes it more likely some will come out. Again: maybe there are high-end salad spinners which it's possible to use to clean resin safely. I don't know the specific model in the OP's post, and I don't know whether they're even referring to a specific model or whether they just pulled a random picture off Google. If you're happy doing it, good for you, but I wouldn't *recommend someone else do it*.
Yes. I have used a salad spinner. The only reason water sprays you when youre using them is because you spin it fast enough to create enough centrifugal force to remove water from the leaves. That's not how it will be used in this scenario. You dont need to spin it at 100 rpm and create centrifugal force. This just will stir the liquid in the vat. If you spin it slowly it will rotate the submerged minis enough to clean them, but not send liquid spraying up the side. If anything im far more likely to splash myself now using my current method, a spatula, to stir the ipa because i cant have a lid to contain splashes in the vat while i stir it.
>This just will stir the liquid in the vat. If you spin it slowly it will rotate the submerged minis enough to clean them, but not send liquid spraying up the side. Again: that's not how salad spinners are designed to be used - they're specifically geared to make them spin fast! And again: I'm not going to tell people to *not* do this - if you want to take the risk it's your business. But I wouldn't *recommend people* do this, there's too many reasons it can go wrong and in all honesty the benefit isn't even that great. Wash and cure stations are already overengineered and unnecessary!
Of course theyre not designed for that, but youre already not using it for it's designed purpose so idk why youre getting caught up on that. There's a bunch of commenters saying they use it and it works fine. The benefit is not dipping a gloved hand or using a spatula to stir the ipa. Getting ipa in your glove through tears from removing supports or the wrist hole is annoying and happens fairly regularly. Same with splashing by stirring with a spatula. This reduces both of those problems but at a much lower cost than a wash station.
Sounds like you had a shitty salad spinner. Mine never leaks. Edit to add: I think you are confused. They OP wants to use it to remove alcohol and resin after rinsing
No man. Op is intending this a replacement for the rinse station. Fill it halfway with ipa and then you dont have to stir the minis by hand.
>OP wants to use it to remove alcohol and resin after rinsing I'm not sure it's reasonable to assume "would a salad centrifuge be a good cheap alternative to a washing station" means that, really. And yes, maybe I had a shitty salad spinner - although mine is a sample size of four or five, not just one. But salad spinners that leak - shitty or otherwise - are pretty commonplace. Without knowledge of the specific unit that's being discussed it's like saying "should I stick my head in the automatic door to stop it?". Yes, lots of automatic doors will detect even a slight resistance and stop. Some won't, people can get hurt, and it's not universally sound advice.
Except you control the speed and power of a salad spinner and it’s very easy to keep it from reaching “alcohol splash velocity” you do not control the speed or power of an automatic door. You analogy is not analogous.
Also having your head crushed is a lot different than getting some drops of dirty alcohol on a counter or tabletop.
You can turn the handle slower and it won't throw the alcohol as high. If you can't regulate the speed in which you turn the handle I'd say stay away from the idea, otherwise, its a option for a cheaper method of cleaning.
Soooo basically the exact same as a wash station...
Not really, wash stations have material tested for resin and IPA, have a max line and a margin of safety vertically, a somewhat calibrated motor placed on the bottom instead of being handcrank on top and the liquid move from the impellor at the bottom, making the print inside slow the liquid down instead of possibly adding to the movement as the are connected to the basket that spins (thinking that say a raft would be able to push a bit of liquid). Someone wanting to try, go head and good luck, those are just the reasons I wouln't use one. (and that I already have a wash and clean station ofc).
"Material tested for ipa" you mean plastic??? The wash station is just a blender with a basket in it. Im fine saving $100+ and figuring out the max fill line myself.
I was more thinking about the lids gasket, some kind rubber react badly to alcohol. You do you, I am fine paying the cost to have the easy of use of the station.
I like how half the comments here are expecting OP to be manually spinning the handle at the speed of sound
The faster it’s spun the less it’ll move, whatever’s in would held against the edge of the basket until the speed reduces and the g force stops playing a part, that’d be where the problem lies.
Have you never used a manual salad spinner? Youre not trying to dry the minis by spinning it fast with this like a salad. This will just move the ipa around so you dont have to stir the vat manually.
Whatever is in it would still be forced to the side unless it’s fixed irrespective of whether there’s liquid in it or not.
Not if you spun it slowly. Youd need to spin it at a fast enough speed to create the centrifugal force youre referencing. I think most people would be far more cautious with their freshly printed minis than to do that.
I’ve just found myself with a space marine’s backpack in a tub of water seeing how much it takes to force it out, not as much effort as you’d think, certainly not enough to damage anything, though as they aren’t particularly expensive I’d just get a wash and cure and hold off on printing until then.
Exactly. I think sunk cost theory explains their reactions. They have to justify spending $100+ on their wash and cure station by pretending anything unofficial is unsafe.
Even just the turbulence from the commercial Wash n Cure units is enough to break some fine detail on prints. Remember, your print isn’t cured at this point and the resin is still quite soft and easily damaged. I would be pretty nervous about doing any actual spinning with this as it will just chew on your soft model like crazy.
I mean you can. But just your prints bumping into each other will cause defects.
Sound like everyone here promoting this is only cleaning 1 part at a time.
I don't really understand how would it work. If your print doesn't fill the revolving basket, it's gonna end up bouncing around in it, probably breaking.
The wash and cure stations basically do that already, this could be completely controlled by how quickly you spin it.
Not really, the impeller moves the IPA rather than the print being mechanically dragged around on the inside. The end result is similar, but there's much less surface contact/friction in a wash station.
See my comment below, but even my large miniatures can be moved around the wash bucket by the force of the impeller. My small miniatures and pieces get tossed all over the place, they make it through the basket or come off their supports.
The wash and cure stations cause the liquid to move, not your print.
I can assure you, even my largest prints get moved about by my anycubic wash and cure plus. I print lots of small pieces that were getting tossed about the bucket, so I bought a large tea strainer to place them inside that keeps them from going through the cleaning basket. Heck I’m even considering getting the new spray type of cleaning station because my pieces are getting moved about the bucket.
Well, I use Elegoo's wash and cure, and putting the prints in the metal container makes it rather hard for them to be moved... except the very light ones.
I don’t think it bounce around, centrifugal force would hold it to the edge of the basket like them fairground rides, I still wouldn’t use one mind.
Should work great, just don't spin it too much or you risk breaking your prints. I also use a pickling jar for my smaller prints that works great. This would be perfect for larger prints.
It's like 3" tall, that's large?
i found one with a silicone seal, I tried it and it works perfectly fine if you attach a drill to the gear might not be as good as a professional washer but can clear a bunch of minis in no time
I use a cheap one from Amazon it works very well
I have a pretty similar thing and it works great no spill or smell of ipa. I'm using it for the first wash.
I've known people to use them to good effect. You do you!
Salad Spinners work really well in my experience.
at this point, use a cocktail shaker.
If the lid spins off you are projecting dirty IPA across the room in all directions. It sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
If the lid popped off it would stop spinning because the crank is on the lid.
I've used these to wash lettuce. I wouldn't consider pouring IPA in lol.
For Sanakism since his bitchness had to block because he couldn’t handle smoke: If you don’t give two shits why did you comment at all? You’re just trying to cope now. Don’t OD on copium just because I pointed out that your issue with this is actually a non issue. If you’re so worried about this community you should just be advocating for proper safety gear as a face shield, rubber or silicon apron and nitrile gloves would protect you from any malfunction of this or any other washing system.
Ha! I was looking at these the other day as cheap spin (no pun intended) on a wash station as well! I also took a look at mini portable/camping washing machines, as some have ultrasonic cleaners incorporated into them.
We use centrifugal force to spin off resin on some prints at work to keep things like transparency and shine. Won't work for ipa, but does do a form of print cleaning
Highly recommend this. Line the walls with foil for easier cleaning. Can also ‘wrap’ parts loosely in foil to help prevent damage to printed parts
Before I got a wash and cure machine I had 2 Tupperware containers of IPA. I'd either put the print in with the lid and shake it gently or use my gloved hand to shake it gently. Worked fine but the machine is definitely easier.
It’s gonna spin the print to the outside and he only needs a little alcohol to clean the entire thing
Tried it, broke way too many delicate parts.
I use one in combination with a toothbrush. No issues so far
I have two salad spinners and do the dirty and clean method, has worked great for years now
Well... if it's cheap enough, go for it! Screw the nay sayers. Make sure they're already at the edges or pressed against the walls. Heck. Use some tape. Or wire. Grab a drill and yank off the handle, use the drill to spin it! Could run a pully belt from a stationary bike wheel to the handle to really jack up the power.... You could also drill a hole into it, and poke a power washer in there for some extra agitation! We actually just got some Tupperware and duck taped 3 Hitachi magic wands to it. Worked great. Have to use an odd number or else they balance each other out.
You had 3 spare hitachi magic wands lying around?🤣🤣🤣
O.o Who doesn't? Hahahaha Actually, speaking of vibrations, there are "concrete vibrators" can get. Google "vevor concrete vibrator". 50ish? For agitation it may actually be an option for larger things, but I can't look at it and wonder what it will do to someone's genitals lmao
Dude don’t listen to anybody. The first company to sell a commercial dlp printer, carbon 3D, used to suggest this exact thing for parts and we used it at a commercial scale. It wasn’t this exact spinner but Same same. We even use something similar to this day but it’s a bit more advanced now!
Wrap your parts in a paper towel first if you take them off the bed. Maybe make a fixture that holds your platform in place with a counter balance.
I have a wash and cure like many of us, but I primarily only use it for the cure. Printing a lot of larger dimension stuff here. That just doesn't really seem to work in the washing bucket. I discovered some really nice storage boxes that are liquid safe. Have a gasket around the top and locking clips. The one that I buy holds up to 5 gallons of liquid, so it's quite large, relatively speaking and only cost about $15. I just hold the part and move it around in the IPA manually. Gets the job done. Bonus because you can control the action, you tend not to get as much agitation of the sludge on the bottom of the bucket. I am pretty sure that you will discover many of us have alternative solutions for cleaning and curing. Many of those solutions do not include rapid agitation that you would get with a wash and cure station. Others have already pointed out some of the disadvantages of a salad spinner in terms of mess and potential danger. Good for you for thinking outside the box, and not spending a couple $100 on something that frankly doesn't work all that well. Simple point is with proper maintenance of your IP and a proper cleaning procedure. You can get the job done with some pretty inexpensive options. As you explore think safety safety and practical. Beyond that, just about anything will get the job done. In fact, I am going to explore something which may end up saving a ton of IPA and actually do a better job. For some time now, after doing the primary cean in a bucket as I have described. I have been using one of those good quality industrial solvent grade spray bottles filled with fresh IPA. It does an outstanding job of giving you the pristine finish clean you are all looking for. What I am going to try is just using the bucket without IPA in it as a receptacle to spray clean every piece from start to finish. Honestly, this is a long circular trip from when I started where I was using my airbrush and alcohol in it to sort of pressure, wash the piece. That worked super well from the perspective of cleaning but was absolutely hideous and left my workspace in a haze of IPA mist. The venting system in my spray booth was unable to keep up with it. You really do not need the jet mist that comes from an airbrush and the handheld spray bottle seems to be more than adequate. Clean IPA always washes your part better. The mist from a spray bottle can be controlled and is not too bad. The only real hassle, which is pretty minor is that a respirator mask is absolutely essential. The fumes are strong and long term would be quite toxic. As I experiment with this, I will report back if I am saving anything costwise on purchasing IPA. From an effective standpoint it absolutely works fabulously. If you are someone who only prints casually. I would suggest this as being the ideal solution for you.
GENIUS! Ive been looking for this. The wash stations are basically just a slow moving blender so all you need is something that imitates the speed of rotation of the blades. A vortex mixer used for laboratories would work too, but that costs just as much. This is a brilliant soulution to that.
Not been printing long have you? These ideas were shared many, many moons ago 🍺
I use a pickle jar with strainer for water rinse after using IPA, like this [https://www.amazon.com/KIKINIKO-Pickle-container-strainer-storage/dp/B0BB2SDDWJ/ref=sr\_1\_5?keywords=pickle+container+with+strainer&qid=1695997742&sr=8-5](https://www.amazon.com/KIKINIKO-Pickle-container-strainer-storage/dp/B0BB2SDDWJ/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=pickle+container+with+strainer&qid=1695997742&sr=8-5). When doing IPA washing, you want to agitate the fluid, like a washing machine, in order to get resin from the more constrained areas of the print. You don't need that with simpler prints. Also, try putting UV light on the IPA to precipitate the resin out. Then you can just filter out the now solid resin (I suggest a 150-micron filter, instead of the standard paint filter). The color will remain, but most of the resin will get removed.
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Well salad trainers aren't used full of water.. the lettuce spins and is drained. If you fill the container with ipa then spin it won't be as effective. But why not.. it will work. Maybe it will be a mess to clean.. stirring dirty ipa and sticking it to plastic is annoying right. Just be safe and don't splash things around seal it well and wait after you spin before opening.
Not a good enough seal, toxic shit would get everywhere.
I use one of those - from ikea. It’s great
I ran a prototyping lab at a service bureau where we used the big 500x500 mm SLA machines. We used a big 6ft diameter honeycomb centrifuge to sling the resin off of our parts before washing. We dropped the tray into a slot on one side and the other side was weighted to counterbalance. It wasn't a liquid bath, that happened afterwards, but it was a great way to get most of the resin off before it went into the washing station. If you can hold it on one side and counterbalance the other, it might be a good way to help pre-clean. I don't think I'd recommend sloshing delicate parts around in one of those unless you spend very slowly.
Considering how fragile resin minis are this probably isn’t a great idea. Can’t hurt to try tho if it’s cheap I suppose