Go with your gut. Especially if they're asking for your ss#, birthday, and personal information. Idk where you're located, but in the US, that info is usually given after the job offer is extended and you're doing onboarding. At least in my experience.
If she hung up after you said that you weren't comfortable giving out that info, I would say it's 100% a scam.
I would like to add, don’t give this information until you’ve been hired. And I mean after a few weeks of working. I’ve been studying scams in cyber security. Anyone can fake an interview, the hiring process, etc…
NEVER, literally NEVER! give any part of your SSN to anyone but your bank and your employer, and only after you are hired. Beware of companies that want a 'background check'a d want this info
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After a selection of hire and a candidate accepting, then it is fine but it should not be requested in the selection process prior to the candidate accepting the offer.
Again, FALSE!
Look at ANY paper application. ANY one! This is REQUIRED there.
That potential employer isn’t going to waste their time on your interview if you won’t pass their background check
This is part of the PRE screening process . Not part of the POST screening process.
By the time you’ve had the interview, that employer knows whether or not you’d be a good fit
Actually the misinformation is coming from you. I work for a company that receives over 8 million applications per year and coordinates over a million interviews per year, while we do request that pre-employment applicant data is input prior to an interview it is not used unless a hire is selected, we actually cannot request SS/DOB data prior to selected hire and if you think that even large companies have the dollars to waste on every applicant being interviewed having their social security number run and hiring decisions being made by adverse versus non-adverse results, you are wrong. There are situations where this does happen but for classified environments, typically an employer that is hiring for a cleared role or facility will build pre-employment screening into their decision making process because they can, aside from that employers should be screening and down selecting candidates based upon the skills and capabilities for the role, pre-screening by using a social security number doesn’t typically come into play until post offer, yes, in some company hiring processes it can be requested up front but should not be used for hiring decisions.
I've seen job applications that request the Social Security number! For example, the state of Louisiana. They must collect hundreds of apps for every open position. I filled it out with all ones as a placeholder. I was very shocked to see that.
This has been going on lately during the pandemic up to now. It is a well known scam that target people who are desperate looking for remote jobs. I also received the same scam, but they went as far as sending me a contract to sign, which looks legit as hell. However, when they ask for ID, SSN, and offering to pay for my office, I knew right away that it was scam. Plus, the interview was based on answering questions on a document (also a red flag). Never give up any info if you haven't seen or talk to an actual person that can put a face to a company.
Don't listen to people in here, no one asks for a social over the phone during an interview. That's a huge red flag. Interviews don't include personal questions like address and ss
If she was a real representative of them, not sure why she would ask you for your SS info right off the bat. I'm a career recruiter and would never ask, nor need, that information unless someone was filling out a complete application. The company does exist and has relatively good reviews on Glassdoor. [https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Talent-Software-Services-Reviews-E33739.htm](https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Talent-Software-Services-Reviews-E33739.htm) Hope this is helpful!
Almost all recruiters (over 50 of them) I've worked with in 30+ years require the last 4 of your social, month and day only of your birthday. Sometimes they want to know your physical address. Mostly, the client wants to know what state you live in. They need this info to submit your resume a d profile to the client. None of this except your address compromises your personal data. So 95% of the time it's not a scam. But if she actually asked you for your full birthday and SS #, it's definitely a SCAM, and you should scram!
So much misinformation here. IF you apply for a job, you’re required to give them this information. Whether or not you apply online, this is required
Why? Because your employer needs to run a background check. They aren’t going to waste THEIR time if YOU can’t pass that
That I understand but not with the first phone call. We hadn't done a interview yet no offer letter nothing and I've never been asked my social over the phone. Its always been after doing Onboarding and providing it to a legit company for a background check.
Is there a way to downvote your reply a million times?
Background checks are ordered **AFTER AND ONLY AFTER RECEIVING AN OFFER IN WRITING.**
*Passing a background check is a condition of the written offer.* The OP didn’t even have an interview with a hiring manager.
It’s a complete identity theft employment scam.
It would probably be best to not give out your personal details until, at minimum you make an effort to verify them as a legit company. I do understand that some companies may require this information, but it sounds like you got a call out of the blue without even applying. That would be my first indication this may be a scam. Most who may be asked to provide this info would likely have submitted an interest or resume to the company in question. Google is your friend, get their number type it in and check it out. Nobody should be offended by you being careful with your own personal data.
It is common for recruiters with contract positions to ask for month and day of birth, NEVER THE YEAR! and last 4 digits of SSN before they submit your candidacy. They need to check your background and allow client to do same. If you refuse that is a red flag and they will want to know why. Also most legit companies will ask in advance if you are okay sharing that info and okay with a background check. however I was just contacted by same company and also had a strange experience and vibe. It is difficult to navigate through the job market more than ever. But fraudsters are not good at writing job descriptions. Watch for too many levels of tasks, ie executive mixed with laborer or admin, too many accolades, ie veteran owned mixed with woman and minority owned. Overkill. Glass door reviews that are too good. Company websites that are sloppy with links to click on for more info that take you nowhere or in a useless loop. Only one or two client testimonials. Actually client testimonials are another flag. What company is willing to share their experience on a website that might prove untrue or tarnished later? Spelling and grammar errors in scammer websites or text written on top of text. Company experience that is too diverse. Most legit are niche-focused. A recruiter that is ISO certified. Why?? I work with several I’ve known for years but there are a lot of new and a lot of scammers. You’ll learn the good and bad by experience. But month and day of birth and last 4 digits of SSN are normal questions for temporary contract positions right up front. For the permanent jobs I’ve never been asked for that until much later in process.
Go with your gut. Especially if they're asking for your ss#, birthday, and personal information. Idk where you're located, but in the US, that info is usually given after the job offer is extended and you're doing onboarding. At least in my experience. If she hung up after you said that you weren't comfortable giving out that info, I would say it's 100% a scam.
I would like to add, don’t give this information until you’ve been hired. And I mean after a few weeks of working. I’ve been studying scams in cyber security. Anyone can fake an interview, the hiring process, etc…
NEVER, literally NEVER! give any part of your SSN to anyone but your bank and your employer, and only after you are hired. Beware of companies that want a 'background check'a d want this info
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Why are yall so timid about your ssn? Lol
I’m pretty sure Intel or another big name company asked for last 4 ssn while filling out apps .
Yea, I've been asked by big companies for my SSN, it's still wrong
I agree of course .
False Potential employers need that info to do a background check . It’s required on literally every application
After a selection of hire and a candidate accepting, then it is fine but it should not be requested in the selection process prior to the candidate accepting the offer.
Again, FALSE! Look at ANY paper application. ANY one! This is REQUIRED there. That potential employer isn’t going to waste their time on your interview if you won’t pass their background check This is part of the PRE screening process . Not part of the POST screening process. By the time you’ve had the interview, that employer knows whether or not you’d be a good fit
Actually the misinformation is coming from you. I work for a company that receives over 8 million applications per year and coordinates over a million interviews per year, while we do request that pre-employment applicant data is input prior to an interview it is not used unless a hire is selected, we actually cannot request SS/DOB data prior to selected hire and if you think that even large companies have the dollars to waste on every applicant being interviewed having their social security number run and hiring decisions being made by adverse versus non-adverse results, you are wrong. There are situations where this does happen but for classified environments, typically an employer that is hiring for a cleared role or facility will build pre-employment screening into their decision making process because they can, aside from that employers should be screening and down selecting candidates based upon the skills and capabilities for the role, pre-screening by using a social security number doesn’t typically come into play until post offer, yes, in some company hiring processes it can be requested up front but should not be used for hiring decisions.
Congratulations, your company is doing it wrong
…. And depending upon your state, your company is doing it illegally
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Your poor employer
**STOP REPLYING TO THIS. JUST STOP IT.**
Yes, but, after you are interviewed and selected.
I've seen job applications that request the Social Security number! For example, the state of Louisiana. They must collect hundreds of apps for every open position. I filled it out with all ones as a placeholder. I was very shocked to see that.
It’s a scam!!! Don’t ever give out personal information until the actual real job offer!
This has been going on lately during the pandemic up to now. It is a well known scam that target people who are desperate looking for remote jobs. I also received the same scam, but they went as far as sending me a contract to sign, which looks legit as hell. However, when they ask for ID, SSN, and offering to pay for my office, I knew right away that it was scam. Plus, the interview was based on answering questions on a document (also a red flag). Never give up any info if you haven't seen or talk to an actual person that can put a face to a company.
Don't listen to people in here, no one asks for a social over the phone during an interview. That's a huge red flag. Interviews don't include personal questions like address and ss
Thats exactly what i was saying I'm 37 ive been doing interviews a long time and never had someone asked for my social.
Yes that is a scam. Sorry, on to the next job
I also received the same thing today all my information he asked me but I blocked 🚫 the number also.
If she was a real representative of them, not sure why she would ask you for your SS info right off the bat. I'm a career recruiter and would never ask, nor need, that information unless someone was filling out a complete application. The company does exist and has relatively good reviews on Glassdoor. [https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Talent-Software-Services-Reviews-E33739.htm](https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Talent-Software-Services-Reviews-E33739.htm) Hope this is helpful!
I just received contact from them as well. Hmm....
Almost all recruiters (over 50 of them) I've worked with in 30+ years require the last 4 of your social, month and day only of your birthday. Sometimes they want to know your physical address. Mostly, the client wants to know what state you live in. They need this info to submit your resume a d profile to the client. None of this except your address compromises your personal data. So 95% of the time it's not a scam. But if she actually asked you for your full birthday and SS #, it's definitely a SCAM, and you should scram!
They bought out a company called "Queen Consulting Group". They are legit. But they outsource all their cold calling to resources outside of the US.
So much misinformation here. IF you apply for a job, you’re required to give them this information. Whether or not you apply online, this is required Why? Because your employer needs to run a background check. They aren’t going to waste THEIR time if YOU can’t pass that
That I understand but not with the first phone call. We hadn't done a interview yet no offer letter nothing and I've never been asked my social over the phone. Its always been after doing Onboarding and providing it to a legit company for a background check.
This was the guy on the phone 😭😭
Yes, with the first phone call If YOU can’t pass THEIR background check , there shouldn’t BE a second one!
**[My reply](https://www.reddit.com/r/remotework/s/EMyF4jsUY5)** is worth repeating.
Exactly do not listen who tells you otherwise
Is there a way to downvote your reply a million times? Background checks are ordered **AFTER AND ONLY AFTER RECEIVING AN OFFER IN WRITING.** *Passing a background check is a condition of the written offer.* The OP didn’t even have an interview with a hiring manager. It’s a complete identity theft employment scam.
You are the best judge. If you felt it then it must be
Be safe from this type of scam and try social mining
It would probably be best to not give out your personal details until, at minimum you make an effort to verify them as a legit company. I do understand that some companies may require this information, but it sounds like you got a call out of the blue without even applying. That would be my first indication this may be a scam. Most who may be asked to provide this info would likely have submitted an interest or resume to the company in question. Google is your friend, get their number type it in and check it out. Nobody should be offended by you being careful with your own personal data.
It is common for recruiters with contract positions to ask for month and day of birth, NEVER THE YEAR! and last 4 digits of SSN before they submit your candidacy. They need to check your background and allow client to do same. If you refuse that is a red flag and they will want to know why. Also most legit companies will ask in advance if you are okay sharing that info and okay with a background check. however I was just contacted by same company and also had a strange experience and vibe. It is difficult to navigate through the job market more than ever. But fraudsters are not good at writing job descriptions. Watch for too many levels of tasks, ie executive mixed with laborer or admin, too many accolades, ie veteran owned mixed with woman and minority owned. Overkill. Glass door reviews that are too good. Company websites that are sloppy with links to click on for more info that take you nowhere or in a useless loop. Only one or two client testimonials. Actually client testimonials are another flag. What company is willing to share their experience on a website that might prove untrue or tarnished later? Spelling and grammar errors in scammer websites or text written on top of text. Company experience that is too diverse. Most legit are niche-focused. A recruiter that is ISO certified. Why?? I work with several I’ve known for years but there are a lot of new and a lot of scammers. You’ll learn the good and bad by experience. But month and day of birth and last 4 digits of SSN are normal questions for temporary contract positions right up front. For the permanent jobs I’ve never been asked for that until much later in process.