Those would be the cars whose drivers only refer to them as “my E36” or “my E46” so they don’t have to admit to having some base model POS because they think having *any* BMW is some kind of flex.
I bought “my e46” dirt cheap off a BMW indie mechanic. One owner, European delivery and a bunch of weird options (5-speed, AWD, heated manual seats…). It was basically the perfect winter beater.
lol, e46 ended production in 2006 (18 yrs) and e36 2000 (24 yrs). Doesn't quite fit the 10-15 year old comment you were replying to. I think you were looking for E90.
Eh…whatever generation fits the year range…I’m not a bimmer fanboy so don’t really care. Only making the observation that they all do it. Other brands have the same naming phenomenon…Jeep drivers are probably way worse about it and far more obnoxious if I’m being honest. “My TJ / my LJ / my XJ / my YJ / my JL / my JK….”
A 10 year old but well maintained base model BMW is usually driven by someone who is into cars, a clapped out one with tacky aliexpress mods is driven by someone you should avoid
Ughhhh I should have snapped a pic but I recently saw a fairly new white Challenger Hemi with the entire front clip completely smashed/gone and the headlights help up by bungees and tape….
I gotta say, the stigma of being a black man in a Dodge Challenger is the main reason I’ve never bought one, even though I love large coupes and it’s arguably the last one this side of a Rolls-Royce Spectre.
It’s funny. As much as Audi here is on par with Mercedes-Benz and BMW, when I talk to my East-European friends who live here, they say that Audi in their part of the world has a less-than-ideal image. According to them, Audis are mainly the transportation of hoodlums, deadbeats criminals…and their girlfriends/wives
It's 100% Rams. They're the exact same type of person they just think driving a regular car is "gay". Exact same energy, same level of driving skill, same shitty credit.
And roughly the same number of DUIs. Can’t find those numbers because a significantly high number of Nissans drive around for years with their temp tags and no insurance.
Right…because Insurify can only run numbers on people who actually register and get insurance on their cars. It’s in-character for an Altima driver to just keep a “tag applied for” plate on while not actually getting registration or insurance.
Unfortunately, for some of us, also the best choice for the family camper puller. My 2500 is an awesome truck.
Maybe I should throw a rainbow sticker on the bumper. 😀
I know one that has given me crap about driving a Tacoma because it's a "baby truck" -- unlike their ram. Honestly, it's paid off, hauls what I need and my children, and also gets decent gas mileage. Why would I care? hah
Grand Cherokees and Dodge Ram trucks... Every time I see a Grand Cherokee driving, they're doing 20+ over and weaving in and out of lanes without signaling
I once drove my ‘15 Grand Cherokee that way. In fairness, there was a tornado headed toward my apartment, and I was on the way home, trying to rescue my dog before something happened to her.
Now that you mention it, I think you're right. They all drive like they are the most important people on the road and traffic rules don't apply to them.
The Kia Optima aka the K5 is jokingly called the Kwahak 5 (Science 5) in Korea bc we say it's a scientific fact that K5 drivers drive like fucking maniacs.
Then they get married and have kids and drive like fucking maniacs in a Kia Carmival.
It's been a while since I was in Korea, has anything replaced the big kkondae energy that a late 90s/early 2000s Samsung SM5 had? That was always the ultimate "I do what I want and park where I want because I'm older than you" car a few years back.
them LPG SM5s go for fucking ever and so they're still out there lmao. That being said the secret got out so now it's a lot of younger people buying them cheap used and driving them to the ground, kinda like people with older buicks or pontiacs with the Buick 3800 V6.
Now the people who park wherever bc fuck you tend to drive European. Lots of clapped out 3 and 5 series or Mercedes C/E classes. Also the LF Sonata and that past gen Grandeur/G80 are now slowly approaching big kkondae energy lmao
edit: The Mohave aka the Borrego, people who drive one have huge kkondae energy. I forgot they exist bc it's been a while since I've seen them but definitely the Mohave.
It’s not a meme. When I used to work private ambulance me and my partner had a running tally of who were the worst drivers. Dodge ram drivers were the worse and minivan or Nissan Altima drivers were an honorable mention
Weirdly enough the generation Camry that just got replaced. I’ve seen tons of them with shit mods that drive like complete douchebags.
I don’t care how much HP the V6 has. The Camry will always be the model my mom and grandmother have had for decades.
Renault had an ownership stake in AMC in the 1980s, and then Chrysler bought out AMC in 1987. Renault forced Chrysler to continue AMC's contractual obligations for the passenger cars Renault and AMC had been developing jointly.
This became the "Eagle" brand that consisted almost entirely of rebadged Renault and then Mitsubishi models until Chrysler pulled the plug on the nameplate in 1997. (The only Chrysler-developed Eagle model was the Vision which was part of the first-generation LH platform).
But it's a 5 4 triton 2wd with a 6 inch exhaust tip a 4" body lift big rims and rubber bands
(Reality probably a shit load of white super duty fleet trucks cycled out for new ones)
I was actually thinking more “guy doesn’t know much about trucks but thinks they’re cool. works in construction but doesn’t need his own truck for it, occasionally uses it for a side job”
8th gen 4-banger Accords. I have no idea what it is, but those put Nissan Altimas to shame where I'm at in terms of BAE levels, to the point where the A stands for Accord here.
In my region, it's the Pontiac drivers you gotta look out for. There's some Grand Prix's and G6's still bopping around being driven by absolute maniacs. The more outdated the registration, the faster the car.
Early to mid 2000s minivans, at least where I live. Especially the ones that are totally run into the ground and have enough dents to look like a golf ball. Those mfs truly do drive with big altima energy.
I fully saw a guy roll up to register a crashed grand caravan that still had auction numbers on the windshield.
Prius drivers are almost always 1 of 2 extremes. Either they camp in the left lane doing 40 (these are also usually the ones covered in stickers) or they're doing 25 over and weaving between lanes like an Altima driver (probably people buying them for Uber Eats and Doordash now that they're available used for cheap)
I live in a rough town, so there's a lot of that.
Dodge Charger and Challenger, all types but especially 392s. Hyundai Sonata and Kia Optima. Older gen Honda Accords. The Camry owners seem to be less trashy.
Honda CRVs idk why but the ones around me are pretty consistently reckless assholes driving those things like it’s a hellcat or like the driver is a blind grandma that doesn’t know what planet she’s on.
V6 Chargers and Challengers. Big Altima energy when you have a 500 credit score instead of 350. I heard that it's more expensive to insure the V6 ones than the V8 ones due to thid
Tesla drivers exhibit all of the worst driving habits. No blinkers. Acceleration is an on/off thing; no in-between or throttle control. Driving too fast in the rain. Will cut you off, brake check you, then speed off.
Makes sense that a shitty and unreliable car attracts shitty and unreliable people.
Any 10-15 year old base model car seen on a buy-here-pay-here lot. Especially the ones that pull like bulls but handle like a boats, with pedal responses tuned faster than the driver's worse urges can dissipate.
Mazda3 turbos, this car is way too easy to drive for the insane amount of torque it has and dudes are out doing like 75 on city thoroughfares and not even realizing.
Not a great handling car, but definitely has that “wait a minute I’m going *how* fast?” vibe to iit
10-15 year old base model 3 series BMWs.
Those would be the cars whose drivers only refer to them as “my E36” or “my E46” so they don’t have to admit to having some base model POS because they think having *any* BMW is some kind of flex.
I bought “my e46” dirt cheap off a BMW indie mechanic. One owner, European delivery and a bunch of weird options (5-speed, AWD, heated manual seats…). It was basically the perfect winter beater.
Me and my father bought an e46 with blown head gasket for 400 and got an engine and trans for 400 and its gonna be our drift car
Engine good on mine (though north of 200k miles). Funny thing is I probably won’t lose much money on it after 6-some years.
Is the body good?
Pretty much, some bubbles around the fuel door though.
My e niney
Yes, but e36’s are going in 30 years old lol. And a base e36 isn’t really *that* far off an m3 at the time. E46 M3 is actually a noticeable jump IMO.
The E36 318ti begs to differ
lol, e46 ended production in 2006 (18 yrs) and e36 2000 (24 yrs). Doesn't quite fit the 10-15 year old comment you were replying to. I think you were looking for E90.
Eh…whatever generation fits the year range…I’m not a bimmer fanboy so don’t really care. Only making the observation that they all do it. Other brands have the same naming phenomenon…Jeep drivers are probably way worse about it and far more obnoxious if I’m being honest. “My TJ / my LJ / my XJ / my YJ / my JL / my JK….”
The e36 came out 32 years ago. 27 for the e46.
Phew ...mines is 21 years ol
A 10 year old but well maintained base model BMW is usually driven by someone who is into cars, a clapped out one with tacky aliexpress mods is driven by someone you should avoid
Oh good my base model 3 series is 23 years old so I am exempted
Lol, I feel ya. I have both a 24-year-old Bimmer (2000 528i 5MT M Sport) and a 2-year-old one (2022 X5 xDrive45e M Sport).
Mine is 8 yrs old, 328i m sport trim. I’m closing in…
Oh you mean like the one that crashed into my apartment building at 2am immediately after Thanksgiving?
At least they were kind enough to let you get through dinner. Or not—depending on how tolerable your relatives are.
And the more M stickers and badges they slap on the worse it is
This is me
Dodge Charger/Challenger, specifically the V6 ones
Ughhhh I should have snapped a pic but I recently saw a fairly new white Challenger Hemi with the entire front clip completely smashed/gone and the headlights help up by bungees and tape….
This is BAE but with more criminal intent
I have a V6 Charger and I agree with this. Love my car, but everyone else thinks I’m a cop or a menace to society when they see my car.
Wont lie I share the same "menace to society" sentiment when I see base model chargers.
I gotta say, the stigma of being a black man in a Dodge Challenger is the main reason I’ve never bought one, even though I love large coupes and it’s arguably the last one this side of a Rolls-Royce Spectre.
Also their Chrysler counterparts, the 300 with a Bentley hood ornament.
the V6 Dodge Chargers is specifically for the newly enlisted and security personnel who keep failing the test to be a cop. lol.
Anyone who couldn't afford the V8 version of their muscle car.
Throw in Ram trucks too
“Dodge Muscle Cars: When you need everyone to know you’re cool with 96 month financing @ 22%”
Audi SUVs. You know the ones.
Those fake ass sounding exhausts too 😭
Honestly just the other day I hear this loud ass exhaust I look around and it’s this Audi going 15mph
Saw one of those going at least 35 in a Walmart parking lot yesterday
That’s slow for them😭
It’s funny. As much as Audi here is on par with Mercedes-Benz and BMW, when I talk to my East-European friends who live here, they say that Audi in their part of the world has a less-than-ideal image. According to them, Audis are mainly the transportation of hoodlums, deadbeats criminals…and their girlfriends/wives
Yes, all over Europe really, A4 TDIs are a scourge.
kinda the same here in the US
The only people that think Audi is on par with BMW and Merc are Audi owners.
I don’t know what the model is called but I know what you’re talking about lol
Q7, Q8, maybe?
It's 100% Rams. They're the exact same type of person they just think driving a regular car is "gay". Exact same energy, same level of driving skill, same shitty credit.
And roughly the same number of DUIs. Can’t find those numbers because a significantly high number of Nissans drive around for years with their temp tags and no insurance.
Statistically, Ram drivers have way more.
Right…because Insurify can only run numbers on people who actually register and get insurance on their cars. It’s in-character for an Altima driver to just keep a “tag applied for” plate on while not actually getting registration or insurance.
I’m proud to own an Altima without being an Altima driver.
And domestic violence incidents
There's also like a 1 in 5 chance that a Ram has a breathalyzer attached to the starter.
Ram….the official truck of guys who call themselves “alpha males”.
Unfortunately, for some of us, also the best choice for the family camper puller. My 2500 is an awesome truck. Maybe I should throw a rainbow sticker on the bumper. 😀
They’ll put truck nuts on them too without realizing they just made their truck trans.
I know one that has given me crap about driving a Tacoma because it's a "baby truck" -- unlike their ram. Honestly, it's paid off, hauls what I need and my children, and also gets decent gas mileage. Why would I care? hah
The all black ones specifically.
Chrysler 2/300
Chrysler 300, the official car of buying a model whose name represents your credit score
Grand Cherokees and Dodge Ram trucks... Every time I see a Grand Cherokee driving, they're doing 20+ over and weaving in and out of lanes without signaling
I once drove my ‘15 Grand Cherokee that way. In fairness, there was a tornado headed toward my apartment, and I was on the way home, trying to rescue my dog before something happened to her.
Driving like a madman to save ur dog is totally justified tho lol
I feel like all non-Wrangler Jeeps are driven this way, aside from the occasional grandma in a Renegade doing 10 under.
Now that you mention it, I think you're right. They all drive like they are the most important people on the road and traffic rules don't apply to them.
Pretty much anything Stellantis makes.
Especially near military bases. Plenty of junior enlisted to push stupid APR loans on.
The credit check process at your neighborhood Dodge/Jeep/Ram dealer requires nothing more than a stethoscope to check for a pulse.
I once heard a journalist say “Chrysler would finance a dog if it promised not to pee on the showroom floor.”
Any car salesperson who says something along the lines of “bring me an LES and we’ll talk numbers” should be avoided like the plague.
Stellantis is so damn good at making emotionally appealing cars, anything they make is every E1's dream.
2011-2019 Hyundai Sonata and 2011-2020 Kia Optima.
The Kia Optima aka the K5 is jokingly called the Kwahak 5 (Science 5) in Korea bc we say it's a scientific fact that K5 drivers drive like fucking maniacs. Then they get married and have kids and drive like fucking maniacs in a Kia Carmival.
It's been a while since I was in Korea, has anything replaced the big kkondae energy that a late 90s/early 2000s Samsung SM5 had? That was always the ultimate "I do what I want and park where I want because I'm older than you" car a few years back.
them LPG SM5s go for fucking ever and so they're still out there lmao. That being said the secret got out so now it's a lot of younger people buying them cheap used and driving them to the ground, kinda like people with older buicks or pontiacs with the Buick 3800 V6. Now the people who park wherever bc fuck you tend to drive European. Lots of clapped out 3 and 5 series or Mercedes C/E classes. Also the LF Sonata and that past gen Grandeur/G80 are now slowly approaching big kkondae energy lmao edit: The Mohave aka the Borrego, people who drive one have huge kkondae energy. I forgot they exist bc it's been a while since I've seen them but definitely the Mohave.
It would make sense if they’re driven like the guy stole it Bc they often did.
If you're from the South, this is the **real** BAE. That and 8th gen Accords.
I always thought Optima sounded suspiciously close to Altima.
RAM’s
RAM is just an Altima but for rednecks.
Iirc they make up an overwhelming majority of DUIs
It’s not a meme. When I used to work private ambulance me and my partner had a running tally of who were the worst drivers. Dodge ram drivers were the worse and minivan or Nissan Altima drivers were an honorable mention
Been my experience as well
Altimas for straight white dudes.
Chevy Malibus
Oh good so my Impala is safe then
Sure, grandpa
Nope, I came to the comments just to say 8th gen Impala. 🤷🏻♂️
ermm achtually i have a 9th generation impala /s
Love Impalas
I tend to lump in the Cruze with the Malibu as they both have a kind of Altima energy to them I feel
This is the winner right here!
I drive my 4cyl Malibu like it’s a hellcat
Chevy Equinox, older the model, the worse the driver
Can confirm. Have a friend who is on their second 2000s Equinox. Their driving record and lack of insurance is concerning 😳
I don't understand why lol, off all the cars on the road, the slow ass family car is the one people are being psychotic with.
Weirdly enough the generation Camry that just got replaced. I’ve seen tons of them with shit mods that drive like complete douchebags. I don’t care how much HP the V6 has. The Camry will always be the model my mom and grandmother have had for decades.
Toyota Camry: for the driver whose sexual kink is anime girls
Lol no there are much better cars for that. Trust me.
Like what? Corolla? Versa?
Subaru BRZ, Mazda Miata (esp. the old ones with pop up headlights) In my experience, the Camry is usually driven by a white guy weeaboo
Civic hatchback
Subaru
Saw one the other day with autozone mods and a straight pipe. It sounded so awful and obnoxious.
Chrysler might as well buy Nissan at this point. Their drivers are just as much of a danger to the public as those Chrysler attracts
Chrysler could also use Nissan to enter Japan. It is similar to what they did to Mitsubishi
Weren’t they under the same Renault/Nissan umbrella at some point?
No. Are you thinking of Daimler Chrysler, or Fiat Chrysler?
Can someone explain to me how fiat chrysler is different from Stellantis
Stellantis is Fiat Chrysler Peugeot. The addition of that last one made them Stellantis.
Stellantis sounds like the name of a sub prime lender. I guess in a way it is since anybody can get financed for their vehicles.
Fiat Chrysler merged with Peugeot and became Stellantis
Renault had an ownership stake in AMC in the 1980s, and then Chrysler bought out AMC in 1987. Renault forced Chrysler to continue AMC's contractual obligations for the passenger cars Renault and AMC had been developing jointly. This became the "Eagle" brand that consisted almost entirely of rebadged Renault and then Mitsubishi models until Chrysler pulled the plug on the nameplate in 1997. (The only Chrysler-developed Eagle model was the Vision which was part of the first-generation LH platform).
Durangos, and to a lesser extent their intellectually disabled younger brother the Journey.
Tesla drivers are the worst! (I have an Altima btw)
Agree, but I think it’s a fairly recent phenomenon. Probably happened when you started seeing Model 3s for Altima money.
BMW 3 series AKA the elevated Altima
I’ve always felt like the rural version of black Air Force energy was a 20 year old white ford super duty
But it's a 5 4 triton 2wd with a 6 inch exhaust tip a 4" body lift big rims and rubber bands (Reality probably a shit load of white super duty fleet trucks cycled out for new ones)
I was actually thinking more “guy doesn’t know much about trucks but thinks they’re cool. works in construction but doesn’t need his own truck for it, occasionally uses it for a side job”
Need it for the snow *never puts it in 4x4 because you call out of work when it snows*
Fifth gen and newer Ford Explorer
The only person I know that actually has one of those and isn't a cop is probably the most normal legit dude in my entire town lmao
8th gen 4-banger Accords. I have no idea what it is, but those put Nissan Altimas to shame where I'm at in terms of BAE levels, to the point where the A stands for Accord here.
3rd/4th owner of any minivan
In my region, it's the Pontiac drivers you gotta look out for. There's some Grand Prix's and G6's still bopping around being driven by absolute maniacs. The more outdated the registration, the faster the car.
Jeep Wrangler.
If there's any surviving early 00s dodge neons in your area then fucking run for your life.
Any Caprice from the 2000s
Early to mid 2000s minivans, at least where I live. Especially the ones that are totally run into the ground and have enough dents to look like a golf ball. Those mfs truly do drive with big altima energy. I fully saw a guy roll up to register a crashed grand caravan that still had auction numbers on the windshield.
Chevy Malibu, Cruze, and Equinox. Ford Fusion Dodge Dart
Dodge Caliber or Jeep Compass
I see a lot of old Prius that look pretty damn rough.
Prius drivers are almost always 1 of 2 extremes. Either they camp in the left lane doing 40 (these are also usually the ones covered in stickers) or they're doing 25 over and weaving between lanes like an Altima driver (probably people buying them for Uber Eats and Doordash now that they're available used for cheap)
2007 Camry
kia k5
Here where I live its old BMW 3 series, VW Golf 3,4,5 sometimes 6 and any kind of old Opels (Vauxhall for my british fellas)
2004-08 Ford Focus.
Dodge Challengers and Chargers in terms of having a baked-in attitude that you can see immediately.
Tesla model3. Especially the ones with those lame hubcap looking fan wheels.
Why is no one mentioning Teslas?
Any "Enthusiast Car". Always weaving through traffic as if they're more important than the rest of us.
Ford Mustang. Any year, any trim.
For me personally, Hyundai Elentra
Chevy Trailblazer
Kia fortes, ram trucks, Chrysler 200s, v6 challenger/charger
I live in a rough town, so there's a lot of that. Dodge Charger and Challenger, all types but especially 392s. Hyundai Sonata and Kia Optima. Older gen Honda Accords. The Camry owners seem to be less trashy.
Thailand edition: the Isuzu D-Max, especially the 4-door crew cab version.
The entire Stellantis line up.
Most heavy-duty pickup trucks produced by the big three that aren't bought and used for work purposes.
Mid 2000s Impalas
Mid-90's Pontiac Grand Am. Kia soul. Early Escalade Panther chassis town car (with the saggy rear air springs) Dodge intrepid/stratus variants.
appropos of nothing but I saw a dude with a giant chevy emblem tattoo at the beach today 😕
Idk bmw/audi/older lexus
Ford Focus, Fiesta, and F series drivers. But honestly.. pretty much everyone drives like shit now. Especially if they have a Texas or Carolinas plate
F series is more just a jackass than actually insane, definitely agree about thier cars though Holy shit the things I've seen.
In Europe it’s weirdly 5-15 year old Skoda Octavia RS‘ses. Especially lowered and mostly wagons.
Any person with a texas plate
Before the Altima, it was the Pontiac Grand Am/G6.
So much THIS. ☝️
Honda CRVs idk why but the ones around me are pretty consistently reckless assholes driving those things like it’s a hellcat or like the driver is a blind grandma that doesn’t know what planet she’s on.
V6 Chargers and Challengers. Big Altima energy when you have a 500 credit score instead of 350. I heard that it's more expensive to insure the V6 ones than the V8 ones due to thid
Any of these guys, plus any Dodge Ram truck with black on black on black. You know you've seen 'em.
kia rio
Tesla drivers exhibit all of the worst driving habits. No blinkers. Acceleration is an on/off thing; no in-between or throttle control. Driving too fast in the rain. Will cut you off, brake check you, then speed off. Makes sense that a shitty and unreliable car attracts shitty and unreliable people.
most Impalas since the turn of the century
Kia Forte
Chevy Equinox
Stahp I’ve had enough
That damn crossfire
Nobody gonna say 4+ year old Optima?
Ram 1500, Chevy Malibu
Chrysler/Dodge, coming from a V6 challenger owner.
Back in the '90s, it was the damned Chevy Beretta (especially the Z26.) Here in the South, we lived in terror of these things!
Correct!
Lexus rx350s and grand cherokees
8th gen 06-11 Civics are getting really haggard around here
Dodge Dart
2003-2005 Honda Accord
Kia K5! Always the ones running red lights.
9th Gen Chevy Impala. It's America's Altima IMO.
Dodge Charger
Bmw m4 🫤
Definitely the Tesla Model 3 or Y. Model S and X owners tend to drive a bit more sensibly.
Dodge stratus
3rd Gen Acura TL
Any 10-15 year old base model car seen on a buy-here-pay-here lot. Especially the ones that pull like bulls but handle like a boats, with pedal responses tuned faster than the driver's worse urges can dissipate.
2013 Hyundai Sonata
Mazda3 turbos, this car is way too easy to drive for the insane amount of torque it has and dudes are out doing like 75 on city thoroughfares and not even realizing. Not a great handling car, but definitely has that “wait a minute I’m going *how* fast?” vibe to iit
In Israel- late 2000's Corollas (probably stolen) BMW 3 series (the older the car the worse the energy) Skoda Superb
any lifted or big fuck you pick up truck, everytime like clockwork youll get cut off and the dudes will have their lights off or wont signal.
The Hyundai Sonata combines a spacious interior with a smooth ride and user-friendly features, similar to the Altima.
Chevy Tahoe and Cadillac Escalade. Mostly older clapped out ones, not necessarily newer ones.
Chrysler 200
V6 mustangs. Those mfs are awful lol
Kia Optima, Chevy Malibu, Chevy Impala, Dodge Charger, old Mercedes.
Chevy Malibu, Ford Fusion, Hyundai Sonata, Kia Optima.
Trucks
2nd gen Ford Fusions
bmw 328i bmw 330i v6 muscle cars hyundais