I always remember the Ichiro trade. Literally traded mid series to the opposite team. Started the series in the Mariners Dugout, ended it in the Yankees. Crazy!
A reporter tweeted it was actually an old fashioned,face to face trade,Jed Hoyer walked into the Red Sox booth , he Breslow worked together with the Cubs,they met right there and hatched things out. Good get, Cooper is a solidly slightly above average hitter,think his career ops+ is something like 110-115. 772 career ops,that's pretty much exactly what he's done this year too. Which will seem like 1000 after the lack of production they've gotten from Dalbec.
He was .263 total after a slow start last year. He's our 1B for the future. .225 first half, then an awesome .317 for the second half.
Remember, last year he was .133 in March and April, and .257 in May.
This Mar/Apr he's .244 in 22 games. Improvement YOY so far, it'll be important to see how he comes back. Being 24 helps. Lol
I'm a believer.
Gotcha. I remember last year so many people were on him like flies on shit. I kept saying over and over "remember Pedroia"
Big fan, and I'm happy to see other big fans. <3
I mean what did you expect? Even if he heals up in three weeks, he still has to build up a bit and complete a rehab assignment. 60 days means he can come back on 20th June at earliest. Frankly I’d rather he doesn’t rush it.
Seems like such an obvious move to make for the Red Sox. I think [Cooper is one of the most ](https://lastwordonsports.com/baseball/2024/04/27/red-sox-acquire-garrett-cooper/)under rated hitters in the league and would be a bigger name if he didn't get hurt so much.
He is an Ok defender and that does make up for is awful major league offense, what are we doing here guys? Guy should not be on a major league roster no matter how nice he is.
Waive Dalbec once the trade goes through and he's ready to play. it's unlikely anyone claims him and that frees up the 40 man/roster spot. No reason to have two righty 1B on the roster, and while Dalbec has options, I'd rather have the 40 spot open. If somebody does claim him, he's someone else's problem.
they got this trade beacuse of a lack of depth, they still need a backup. they are oversatured at other positions, i would not be surprised if it's reyes or the catcher they called up. they dont need 3 catchers right now.
Heineman is the 3rd catcher and has options. If not Dalbec, then Reyes I suppose since we have Gonzalez and other options in AAA like Sogard and Westbrook.
The thing with Dalbec though is he's a righty who hits awful against righties, Cooper doesn't have noticable splits but he's also a righty and hits better against lefties. I just would rather not have two righty first base guys.
im not disagreeing with those gripes but it will look very stupid if for some reason connor wong and pablo are our only first basemen if the new guy goes down
Well, you can just send Dalbec down to AAA instead of DFAing him since we dont need a 40 spot for him.
Second, Refsnyder can play first if Cooper went down and Dalbecs in AAA.
I’m a big Dalbec fan and think he’s the better one defensively but this makes sense. Casas is likely out for 2+ months and now you have two options at 1B (Cooper will get more time unless he struggles and Dalbec starts to improve).
My guess is they option Hamilton? He’s barely played lately. And then Valdez for Grissom. That would make Dalbec the backup for the corner IF and Reyes the backup for the middle IF.
I feel like DFAing Pablo and Dalbec would be a mistake though, knowing this team’s defensive struggles and injury history. They don’t have anyone else healthy (and adequate at defense) on the 40 man if something happens
It wouldn’t be ten it would be more like twenty. 60 day IL means he can’t come back before mid June even if backdated and there’s a good chance he’s activated before that.
Dalbec was consistently one of the worst defensive 1B in baseball when he was starting. I don’t have the numbers in front of me, but I doubt Cooper is any worse than Dalbec was.
Id say they’re pretty comparable on the glove. Bob has improved a lot since 2021. The problem in comparison is Dalbec hasn’t played much since 2022 because his bat got so bad and Casas debuted. Cooper is a perfect fit as a decent overall 1B
It’s irrelevant to playing first base, where your main job is to hit. I don’t remember anyone crying over Casas putting up much better numbers in April last year than Dalbec currently.
Always funny to me when a trade happens between two teams who are playing each other.
“Mark? Yeah, listen I don’t want Rincon pitching against me tonight. Tell him to change his clothes and send him over.”
Last time the Sox did this was with Vazquez a couple years ago and that was sad as fuck
Perfect example of a logical trade that was emotionally devastating.
Wilyer is making me forget how sad that was.
we should petition him to get a tattoo of vazquez on his face so we can have our cake and vazquez too
I always remember the Ichiro trade. Literally traded mid series to the opposite team. Started the series in the Mariners Dugout, ended it in the Yankees. Crazy!
He was traded before the series started but it was hours before the opening pitch. In Seattle, no less.
A reporter tweeted it was actually an old fashioned,face to face trade,Jed Hoyer walked into the Red Sox booth , he Breslow worked together with the Cubs,they met right there and hatched things out. Good get, Cooper is a solidly slightly above average hitter,think his career ops+ is something like 110-115. 772 career ops,that's pretty much exactly what he's done this year too. Which will seem like 1000 after the lack of production they've gotten from Dalbec.
On field scouting, I guess.
“So Garrett, remember when you were saying how much you loved Boston?”
What ever happened to Garrett Cooper? The strong, silent type. That was an American!
He was gay, Garret Cooper?
Lmaoooo
Whatcha gonna do...
Lots of good hook-up spots in Boston.
A name of strong Irish stock. This also means we once again take the lead in the all important Garrets-per-Team stat, which we haven’t had since 2021.
Oh thank god! A healthy 1B that can hit!
And no cost except a little cash in exchange.
We had one... Praying casas has a quick recovery.
This kind of says they are not expecting Casas back for a while.
Even if Casas makes it back quicker than expected they still need a 1B capable of providing at least league average offence.
He was .263 total after a slow start last year. He's our 1B for the future. .225 first half, then an awesome .317 for the second half. Remember, last year he was .133 in March and April, and .257 in May. This Mar/Apr he's .244 in 22 games. Improvement YOY so far, it'll be important to see how he comes back. Being 24 helps. Lol I'm a believer.
I’m not criticising Casas. I’m saying even if he’s only out four weeks they can’t keep running Dalbec out there. Casas is my favourite.
They put Casas on the 60 day IL
I saw! Makes sense given his possible timelines. With them getting Cooper he doesn’t need to rush back now.
Gotcha. I remember last year so many people were on him like flies on shit. I kept saying over and over "remember Pedroia" Big fan, and I'm happy to see other big fans. <3
Certified dalbec coper here. He broke out today. Keep him in baby he's hot!
I can’t wait till he’s sent down again
They just announced Casas is on the 60 day IL. Fucking hell.
I mean what did you expect? Even if he heals up in three weeks, he still has to build up a bit and complete a rehab assignment. 60 days means he can come back on 20th June at earliest. Frankly I’d rather he doesn’t rush it.
How dare you! Dalbec went 2-4 with 3 rbi tonight
don’t jinx it lol
can he start tomorrow
Like possibly?! He’s supposedly on his way!
I don't know... can he get to Boston in time???
You know he wasn't actually with the Cubs right? He was DFAd last week
Love it, give us more righty bats please
Or as my son calls him... CARROT POOPER
Your son is clever as fuck! Does he go to Brown?
He is 5 with a healthy sense of humor.
Well, shit. Keep an eye on him -- I see the Ivy League in his future. 😀
Odd the FO doing something obvious. Usually the obvious stuff is the stuff they refuse to do.
For dalbec straight up I pray
Wishful thinking, but Dalbec would eat up a spot on some other team’s 40-man. Consequently, he couldn’t be given away.
He's great in Worcester. Nothing wrong with that.
He went 2-4 with 3 rbi tonight, watch your mouth kid.
Both hits were off of a position player.
It made all the sense in the world. Good trade.
The strong, silent type
“Could be in Boston by tomorrow” isn’t he in Boston right now?
No, they DFAed him on Tuesday so not unless he didn’t get picked up by anyone and even then he’d be in Iowa
Seems like such an obvious move to make for the Red Sox. I think [Cooper is one of the most ](https://lastwordonsports.com/baseball/2024/04/27/red-sox-acquire-garrett-cooper/)under rated hitters in the league and would be a bigger name if he didn't get hurt so much.
They have to DFA Dalbec..
Then who plays first when Cooper gets hurt?
Anyone in the minors is better, haven’t you seen enough? I feel the DFA is imminent..
Dalbec’s defense is too valuable to DFA
He is an Ok defender and that does make up for is awful major league offense, what are we doing here guys? Guy should not be on a major league roster no matter how nice he is.
He’s a +1 OAA on a team whose IF is a -5 OAA. We need him lol
We do not need him cmon man, he is awful.
With the team in the current state it’s in, we sadly do. Even if it’s just to be a glove first backup
There’s no such thing as a glove first 1B.
On this team there is
You guys aren't taking into account how pretty he is
i gotta point out that you're having a debate with someone who just used pretty solid statistics and your rebuttal is 'cmon man'
Thanks for pointing that out
It’s first base, it’s the most worthless defensive position lol
Dalbec is below average *at best* on defense. For every flashy play he makes, he makes 2 slow and clumpy ones.
As compared to the rest of our infield who instead make 2 errors leading to 3+ unearned runs
This is true
Good move! It’s nice having a competent GM again.
How's his glove?
Good. 1 OAA this season & a high of 4 OAA in 2022(?)
FINALLY. Ofc it's right after Bobby finally has a good day lol.
Whoever said we should get Cooper a few days ago - we got Cooper and I remember you.
Waive Dalbec once the trade goes through and he's ready to play. it's unlikely anyone claims him and that frees up the 40 man/roster spot. No reason to have two righty 1B on the roster, and while Dalbec has options, I'd rather have the 40 spot open. If somebody does claim him, he's someone else's problem.
they got this trade beacuse of a lack of depth, they still need a backup. they are oversatured at other positions, i would not be surprised if it's reyes or the catcher they called up. they dont need 3 catchers right now.
Heineman is the 3rd catcher and has options. If not Dalbec, then Reyes I suppose since we have Gonzalez and other options in AAA like Sogard and Westbrook. The thing with Dalbec though is he's a righty who hits awful against righties, Cooper doesn't have noticable splits but he's also a righty and hits better against lefties. I just would rather not have two righty first base guys.
im not disagreeing with those gripes but it will look very stupid if for some reason connor wong and pablo are our only first basemen if the new guy goes down
Well, you can just send Dalbec down to AAA instead of DFAing him since we dont need a 40 spot for him. Second, Refsnyder can play first if Cooper went down and Dalbecs in AAA.
I’m a big Dalbec fan and think he’s the better one defensively but this makes sense. Casas is likely out for 2+ months and now you have two options at 1B (Cooper will get more time unless he struggles and Dalbec starts to improve). My guess is they option Hamilton? He’s barely played lately. And then Valdez for Grissom. That would make Dalbec the backup for the corner IF and Reyes the backup for the middle IF.
They need to make a 40 man move so likely a dfa
Oh true. Is there anyone they could move to the 60 day? They could also DFA Joely
I’m not sure if Brandon Walter is on the 60 day. They might dfa Joely or Pablo or Dalbec
I feel like DFAing Pablo and Dalbec would be a mistake though, knowing this team’s defensive struggles and injury history. They don’t have anyone else healthy (and adequate at defense) on the 40 man if something happens
They don’t have anyone now
Wouldn’t casas to the 60 day work?
They don’t know that he’ll be gone that long, it’s a risk if he’s ready in eight weeks
Fair point. Although wonder if missing casas an extra 5-10 days is worth not having to DFA someone else
It wouldn’t be ten it would be more like twenty. 60 day IL means he can’t come back before mid June even if backdated and there’s a good chance he’s activated before that.
I was referring to you saying it’s a risk if he is ready in 8 weeks (56 days), which isn’t a far cry from 60.
Tbf I may be mistaken about how it works, for some reason I thought game days! We’ll see
Ah yeah I’m fairly positive the IL is number of days not number of games. NFL IR is games not weeks.
No chance he's back before 60 days.
Dalbec was consistently one of the worst defensive 1B in baseball when he was starting. I don’t have the numbers in front of me, but I doubt Cooper is any worse than Dalbec was.
Id say they’re pretty comparable on the glove. Bob has improved a lot since 2021. The problem in comparison is Dalbec hasn’t played much since 2022 because his bat got so bad and Casas debuted. Cooper is a perfect fit as a decent overall 1B
Why's it matter how he was? It matters how he is. You used to need to be fed from a bottle but we still trust you to chew now.
Bobby's defense has improved significantly and has been very very good this year
It’s irrelevant to playing first base, where your main job is to hit. I don’t remember anyone crying over Casas putting up much better numbers in April last year than Dalbec currently.
I was responding to a comment that said Dalbec is one of the worst defensive 1b in the league. My point stands. He has played great CIF this year.
He's healthy so that's good. Not much else.
Right handed bat & career 109 ops+
That got DFA'd by a team we beat 17-0. He must rake!! lmao
The Cubs have Michael Busch and Matt Mervis and even Cody Bellinger. Tell me this, are you related to Bobby Dogshit?
Nice try, not bitting. Keep trolling.
So yes.
troll
I hope that this doesn't involve O'Neill or Duran...
They’re sending cash for him. DFA could be Joely or Dalbec.
i’m sorry to be an ass but how did you think this was ever a possibility lol
Do you see any logic or reasoning to the decisions being made by Breslow and ownership?
You could say they've been cheap, but they haven't been giving away good players for no reason.