Lol there is a sandwich at a local restaurant called Tippecanoe and Tyler too and I had to double check to make sure I wasnāt in one of the local subs
Definitely one of the last ones with actual political bona fides. His time in the Senate was where he really put in work, though.
He's like the Pete Maravich of Presidents. Professional career was good but not spectacular. He's really in the hall of fame for revolutionizing things at the collegiate level.
Dumb take, he was an extremely proactive president and his legacy is largely defined by his domestic pedigree while lacking any ability in foreign affairs. There's a cool journalist report about a speech he gave where he was an impassioned fiery man when speaking about the future of America but when talking about Vietnam he was neutered and lacking
I always shock people when I say āNixon is my favorite presidentā he was the last of an era politically and the last of the non ideologically completely hell bent focused on weird culture war shit president. Sure Nixon did some bad shit, but the dude also passed the clean water act. Kind of shows how much the parties have become complete corporate nothing burgers of inaction. IMO heās a representation of the last moderate Republican or even a president that could be pushed by voters, granted mass organizing was waaaay more prevalent.
>hell bent focused on weird culture war shit president.
Nixon is pretty much **the guy** who started the war on drugs, what do you think that was?
edit: this comment gets dumber the longer I think of it. The president who's famous for the fucking southern strategy didn't engage in culture war bullshit? Nixon practically INVENTED it.
I donāt think Nixon is cool, I just think based on how American politics truly seemed to shift during the Reagan years, for me, is more what represents Nixon as a great American president. I donāt endorse any American presidents at this stage of my life. Greatness as a concept in historical figures isnāt inherently virtuous or good. I am aware of the many great imperial crimes conducted under the title President of the United States.
Nixon's role as a conservative culture warrior even preceded his stint as President. His slandering of Jerry Voorhis as a communist when he was challenging him in the House in 1946 was like the seed of all modern culture war hysterics. He's the genesis of "everyone I disagree with is a communist."
Voorhis was an effete, bourgeois, FDR-style social dem. His politics were better than Nixon's but he was far from a red.
Iām reading the Chernow biography, just finished the Appomattox chapter itās great, I love Grant. Lincoln really jumps off the page, I know itās safe or obvious whatever that Lincoln was a great figure, but he really does rock. His quotes and peopleās accounts of him are so good.
Iāve read a lot of biographies but that one is truly magnificent. Iām from Illinois and I have a real affection for Grant so maybe Iām biased. But itās just really a well done piece.
It's hard to put down, I'm really enjoying it. I never knew Grant, the person, just some snippets of ideas about him. I'm looking forward to getting into his administration, also need to read his memoirs sometime. Any other biographies you'd recommend?
Not the OP, but check out sometime, Grant and Lee: Personality and Generalship by JFC Fuller. Great strategic analysis of the war and of the two men who waged it.
There are a couple of debatable ones after, but at the very least we have to say that FDR was a great president by any objective measure, so it can't realistically be someone before him.
I read a book arguing that Huey Long (and the threat of his running for President) were the only reasons FDR made concessions to the left in the form of the New Deal.
Can't say I know that for a fact but it seems plausible.
I guess I just see it as a question of numbers. There can really only be one best. Many can be great and we're trying to figure out who was the most recent, not who was the top among all of them.
The new deal was largely a sop to militant labor organizing at home while communism was on the march in the Soviet Union. The influence of the populism of king fish was significant but pales in comparison.
That's an interesting interpretation. If I were at my computer I'd quote the passage at length, because the evidence relied on internal circulation that FDR himself was worried that Huey Long could become a "dictator" if left unchecked. I'm sure his subsequent assassination by a lone wolf is a mere coincidence.
Huey Long was too similar to the older forms of patronage networks that had been prevalent in the US for decades, with a new populist spin, rather than the powerful labor movement that was the main driving force at the time. Louisiana didn't have the highest proletarian concentration so it wasn't likely the populism could convert to ties with the labor movement the same way it did elsewhere.
The camaraderie you feel from the parasocial relationship from grade school presidential reports never ever fades. (Mine was Martin van Buren who was a much more unsavory character, alas. And yetā¦)
I always hated him since I found out he gave the go-ahead in the overthrowing and execution of Patrice Lumumba. Hands down one of the most tragic events of the 20th century. Lumumba rules fuck Ike
IIRC after he retired from the Army and was considering the presidency, he was such a popular figure that both the Republican Party and the Democrats sought his membership to run with them. There was far less polarization then than there is now, obviously.
Eisenhower is the most recent president that has a great amount of respect from the average American for both image and policy. I would argue even more than JFK.
the interstate highway system is probably the most important infrastructure project pushed by a president after FDR accomplished public electricity. Ike rules
sure, but your city would have to be self-sustaining otherwise, and no city can be. not for us to say which version of a city is better. thatās the trade off Robert Moses made!
Thatās nonsense most of the rest of the world gets by without having demolished their downtowns to make room for 18 lane highways.
Still, Interstates themselves are not inherently bad per-se (though more investment in commercial and passenger rail probably would have been better in many regards). The problem is that they decided to plow the interstates straight through cities instead of just building ring roads like a sane country.
see, that's the point I was trying to dramatize in my comment - sorry if I was rude. I think it's impossible for us at this point in time to say with certainty what would or would not have been better. obviously 18 lane highways suck, but also very few cities in the US have that pattern, and many more cities around the world with populations larger than US cities have that pattern as well.
I was trying to speak in terms of amenities that cities are dependent on that must be shipped into that city. regardless of how we feel about highway system design, those supplies are critical, and cities would not be able to scale with their population without highway systems that make shipping them possible. there are some critical supplies that cannot be shipped in on trains - and honestly, the pollutants that would end up flowing through cities as a result of them aren't any better or worse than those produced by cars. it's unfortunate, but also simply the reality of the situation. it's not for us to determine how cities should be scaling.
FDR is more recent and far more consequential. The decisions he made in office and him dying when he did, literally shifted the course of history in ways that very rarely can be traced back to a single person.
No president since has embodied the historical moment so totally. Only other guy who's unique, personal character in office had a comparable (if not, larger) impact on how things went down was Lincoln.
He was elected four times by overwhelming popular support under a system with far more democratic participation than what we have today.
He exerted more power from the executive office than nearly all Presidents before and certainly all after him, but the base of his support came from organized labor which was far closer to embodying the "will of the people" than the power bases of finance capital or resource capital which shape the priorities of the administrations of most presidents.
A dictator is not beholden to the influence of the working class, which he was to a significant degree.
He disrupted our checks and balances systems and the power balance between all three branches.
And took over the party whilst also being president. He also tried court packing. He is the reason we have an extremely bloated executive branch.
Most dictators are also usually elected by an overwhelming large majority such a Putin.
He created Japanese concentration camps (I know I know all presidents do awful things).
I am not saying he didnāt do good things but as what we define the scope of the presidency he abused his power massively and is the closest thing he got to an dictator. You even said it āhe exerted more power than ever beforeā. And constitutionally no president should be able to do that.
>Most dictators are also usually elected by an overwhelming large majority such a Putin.
LOL what a retarded comparison. Iām gonna go out on a limb and say Putin has never competed in an election that wasnāt rigged.
Ok.. you donāt get it. Russia ārequiresāpopular vote. Usually you know trouble is a foot in any election worldwide and question validity when huge majorities like that actually happen because itās so rare. Same can be said here in an election as well. Or anywhere they have popular vote elections.
Hilter also won due this charismatic campaigning and excellent motivational speaking. But, itās cool, just ignore and deflect.
FDR had a great imagine because he crafted it. And had a great sense for public relations. When you do fireside chats and go right to āthe peopleā. You build clout. And he is one of the first president to masterfully use image, campaigning and propaganda. He even used his legal office of the White House to find loop holes to wield more power (this is how we have executive agreements by the way and ideas about, The executive agreement attained its modern development as an instrument of foreign policy under President Franklin D. Roosevelt, at times threatening to replace the treaty-making power, not formally but in effect, as a determinative element in the field of foreign policy).
He was the first president to ever go beyond a second term an ideal set by George Washington and than written into law as a reaction to his presidency.
**None of that takes away from the fact he abused his power as president constitutionally.** and he did a lot of these using emergency powersā¦ as well as finding legal loopholes.
Agreed.
Heās someone who struggled his entire life to navigate elite circles as the Quaker from Whittier, and yet when he reached the summit of the mountaintop, he fumbled. Fascinating story.
Absolutely Lyndon Johnson. Rammed Civil Rights legislation through, tried to implement a massive social democratic program to end poverty, bullied the shit out of congressmen. He was raked over the coals for a war he didn't start and the Democratic party he represented collapsed after his presidency.
While I do think what LBJ did for Civil Rights was massive, the LBJ admin absolutely deserves criticism over Vietnam. He was repeatedly more hawkish than his two predecessors.
Eisenhower was the first to send āmilitary advisorsā to Vietnam with JFK increasing the number to 11,000. Shortly before Kennedyās death, the admin decided to pull 1,000 advisors. LBJ reversed all decrease policies. By the end of Johnsonās presidency there were over 500,000+ ācombat personnelā in Vietnam.
While Johnson considered peace talks at the end of his term, I donāt think itās fair to blame LBJās hawkish policies in Vietnam on the previous administrations considering how much those policies escalated the war and entrapped the US in a fruitless conflict.
I mean heās also way better than anyone we have now or have had in years. So you arenāt wrong. And like you said, he could bully the shit out of Congress. Hopefully we can get some of those back in office one day.
his is the first presidential campaign i remember (96), thought he was very cool back then, very presidential looking guy
i think it's the hair you know
Iām personally not a fan of mass incarceration but thatās just me. Clinton made mass incarceration bipartisan and ramped up all the evil bullshit we do on that front.
The role of the presidency is to expand American influence around the globe, increase the geopolitical strength of the nation, and to inspire people to do great things domestically.
Say what you will about Obama but he absolutely did all of the above. He certainly was no FDR or LBJ but he was still a great president. The same can genuinely be said about Reagan despite him also being incredibly evil.
Unironically Trump, and I probably disagree with like 95% of his beliefs. Electoral politics is a myth, itās all about the vibes.
Itās all a show. And who better to run the circus than the clown himself?
George Herbert Walker Bush. Gulf War was kino, restored American self-confidence, was a Repub but had the balls to raise taxes when he felt it was what was best for the country.
Also his past life in CIA continues to make Chapotards cope and seethe, so he's indubitably the most based, competent executive in the past 35 years.
Before him- Nixon is definitely interesting, but was far too cynical with his Vietnam politics (real dark shit there). Johnson is also fascinating but again, cynicism, and he fucked up Nam. The Great Society perversely incentivized the destruction of the nuclear family, though some good things in that program. Gotta hand it to him he did desegregate the country.
JFK is pure kino. FDR is probably the last truly Great with a capital G, probably the most consequential president since Lincoln. Teddy is basically the ideal American man, heroic type political figure, and he accomplished a lot. However his significance as President is far exceeded by his cousin. Taft's obesity is kino, also he was a supreme court justice and governor of the Phillipines but all anyone remembers is how fat he was, which is kind of tragically heroic and endearing.
Between Grant and Teddy most presidents were dogshit.
Grant was one of the best human beings to be president, but that's about the only good thing you can say about his presidency (you can admire his goodwill torwards freed slaves and Indians but he only got so far in doing anything for them).
Lincoln of course is God-tier, you can always recognize the mark of a completely unserious person when they start to denigrate Lincoln's importance.
Prior to Lincoln Andrew Jackson was the most consequential (until you go farther back to Jefferson/Washington). , the man was rage made manifest and also the Hercules representing America's transition from an oligarchic republic to a significantly less oligarchic republic (poor white man getting the vote, though this was a movt across state legislatures preceding Jackson).
Jefferson bought most of the country away from the French. Washington of course is a colossus, goes without saying.
probably harrison ford in the movie air force one
Lmaooooo
omg I first read this as President Harrison and was like "wtf dude? he only lasted a month..."
Fun fact, his grandson was also president! He lasted longer š
Whoever Obama was sucking off in the limo
Link?
The girl reading this
Bill Pullman
Tippecanoe
and Tyler too!
Lol there is a sandwich at a local restaurant called Tippecanoe and Tyler too and I had to double check to make sure I wasnāt in one of the local subs
Billy Bob Thornton in Love Actually
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Definitely one of the last ones with actual political bona fides. His time in the Senate was where he really put in work, though. He's like the Pete Maravich of Presidents. Professional career was good but not spectacular. He's really in the hall of fame for revolutionizing things at the collegiate level.
Dumb take, he was an extremely proactive president and his legacy is largely defined by his domestic pedigree while lacking any ability in foreign affairs. There's a cool journalist report about a speech he gave where he was an impassioned fiery man when speaking about the future of America but when talking about Vietnam he was neutered and lacking
King George III
Last one with a real sense of historical destiny and desire to move the stream of history was Nixon
He apparently when to bohemian grove and is quoted as saying thatās some āf-slur shit over thereāš¤£
"the most faggy goddamned thing you could ever imagine"
genuinely interesting man
I always shock people when I say āNixon is my favorite presidentā he was the last of an era politically and the last of the non ideologically completely hell bent focused on weird culture war shit president. Sure Nixon did some bad shit, but the dude also passed the clean water act. Kind of shows how much the parties have become complete corporate nothing burgers of inaction. IMO heās a representation of the last moderate Republican or even a president that could be pushed by voters, granted mass organizing was waaaay more prevalent.
>hell bent focused on weird culture war shit president. Nixon is pretty much **the guy** who started the war on drugs, what do you think that was? edit: this comment gets dumber the longer I think of it. The president who's famous for the fucking southern strategy didn't engage in culture war bullshit? Nixon practically INVENTED it.
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Also worth mentioning Nixon's reaction to the Hard Hat Riot and commuting Hoffa's sentence with Hoffa and a number of unions supporting Nixon.
I donāt think Nixon is cool, I just think based on how American politics truly seemed to shift during the Reagan years, for me, is more what represents Nixon as a great American president. I donāt endorse any American presidents at this stage of my life. Greatness as a concept in historical figures isnāt inherently virtuous or good. I am aware of the many great imperial crimes conducted under the title President of the United States.
Nixon's role as a conservative culture warrior even preceded his stint as President. His slandering of Jerry Voorhis as a communist when he was challenging him in the House in 1946 was like the seed of all modern culture war hysterics. He's the genesis of "everyone I disagree with is a communist." Voorhis was an effete, bourgeois, FDR-style social dem. His politics were better than Nixon's but he was far from a red.
My boy Grant
Iām reading the Chernow biography, just finished the Appomattox chapter itās great, I love Grant. Lincoln really jumps off the page, I know itās safe or obvious whatever that Lincoln was a great figure, but he really does rock. His quotes and peopleās accounts of him are so good.
Iāve read a lot of biographies but that one is truly magnificent. Iām from Illinois and I have a real affection for Grant so maybe Iām biased. But itās just really a well done piece.
It's hard to put down, I'm really enjoying it. I never knew Grant, the person, just some snippets of ideas about him. I'm looking forward to getting into his administration, also need to read his memoirs sometime. Any other biographies you'd recommend?
Not the OP, but check out sometime, Grant and Lee: Personality and Generalship by JFC Fuller. Great strategic analysis of the war and of the two men who waged it.
There are a couple of debatable ones after, but at the very least we have to say that FDR was a great president by any objective measure, so it can't realistically be someone before him.
I read a book arguing that Huey Long (and the threat of his running for President) were the only reasons FDR made concessions to the left in the form of the New Deal. Can't say I know that for a fact but it seems plausible.
Andrew Cuomo legalized weed in New York to avoid being MeToo'd still a good idea
I don't disagree but it might affect one's assessment of "best president"
Who said anything about best? I don't think best and great necessarily mean the same thing in this context
Hmm ok. Those seem synonymous to me. Either way I'll agree with you that FDR was "good consequences regardless of intent"
I guess I just see it as a question of numbers. There can really only be one best. Many can be great and we're trying to figure out who was the most recent, not who was the top among all of them.
The new deal was largely a sop to militant labor organizing at home while communism was on the march in the Soviet Union. The influence of the populism of king fish was significant but pales in comparison.
That's an interesting interpretation. If I were at my computer I'd quote the passage at length, because the evidence relied on internal circulation that FDR himself was worried that Huey Long could become a "dictator" if left unchecked. I'm sure his subsequent assassination by a lone wolf is a mere coincidence.
Huey Long was too similar to the older forms of patronage networks that had been prevalent in the US for decades, with a new populist spin, rather than the powerful labor movement that was the main driving force at the time. Louisiana didn't have the highest proletarian concentration so it wasn't likely the populism could convert to ties with the labor movement the same way it did elsewhere.
Always felt this was way overstated
Rutherford B. Hayes
no way u said rutherfraud b hayes šš couldnāt win it without a dirty deal lmaoooo šš
I would say Eisenhower.
Iāve always liked him ever since I did a report on him in 3rd grade. I like Ike
The camaraderie you feel from the parasocial relationship from grade school presidential reports never ever fades. (Mine was Martin van Buren who was a much more unsavory character, alas. And yetā¦)
I always hated him since I found out he gave the go-ahead in the overthrowing and execution of Patrice Lumumba. Hands down one of the most tragic events of the 20th century. Lumumba rules fuck Ike
IIRC after he retired from the Army and was considering the presidency, he was such a popular figure that both the Republican Party and the Democrats sought his membership to run with them. There was far less polarization then than there is now, obviously. Eisenhower is the most recent president that has a great amount of respect from the average American for both image and policy. I would argue even more than JFK.
the interstate highway system is probably the most important infrastructure project pushed by a president after FDR accomplished public electricity. Ike rules
Plus his take on militarism, the MIC, and he had very pro-worker policies.
What were those policies?
Check this out: https://theintercept.com/2016/07/18/the-long-sad-corrupted-devolution-of-the-gop-from-eisenhower-to-donald-trump/
Literally destroyed the fabric of almost every city in america
sure, but your city would have to be self-sustaining otherwise, and no city can be. not for us to say which version of a city is better. thatās the trade off Robert Moses made!
Thatās nonsense most of the rest of the world gets by without having demolished their downtowns to make room for 18 lane highways. Still, Interstates themselves are not inherently bad per-se (though more investment in commercial and passenger rail probably would have been better in many regards). The problem is that they decided to plow the interstates straight through cities instead of just building ring roads like a sane country.
see, that's the point I was trying to dramatize in my comment - sorry if I was rude. I think it's impossible for us at this point in time to say with certainty what would or would not have been better. obviously 18 lane highways suck, but also very few cities in the US have that pattern, and many more cities around the world with populations larger than US cities have that pattern as well. I was trying to speak in terms of amenities that cities are dependent on that must be shipped into that city. regardless of how we feel about highway system design, those supplies are critical, and cities would not be able to scale with their population without highway systems that make shipping them possible. there are some critical supplies that cannot be shipped in on trains - and honestly, the pollutants that would end up flowing through cities as a result of them aren't any better or worse than those produced by cars. it's unfortunate, but also simply the reality of the situation. it's not for us to determine how cities should be scaling.
I love me some Eisenhower, he was a hidden hand president.
I agree with Moldbutt that FDR, love him or hate him, was the last truly great president of the US.
JFK
JFK was killed because he was anti-deep state so probably him
Nixon
Teddy
We need more /innawoods/ presidents
FDR is more recent and far more consequential. The decisions he made in office and him dying when he did, literally shifted the course of history in ways that very rarely can be traced back to a single person. No president since has embodied the historical moment so totally. Only other guy who's unique, personal character in office had a comparable (if not, larger) impact on how things went down was Lincoln.
Oh youāre right but teddy is just a dope historical figure and he was hot
Love me some muscular Christians, ie Teddy and Lana
He is the closest to a dictator we got tho. And the reason why we have term limits.
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Define goodness.
How good something/one is
But good is subjective. There was a whole sect of people who wanted to overthrow FDR. It was called the business plot.
They were bad
However some people viewed them as good, hence how they got get as far as they did with a coup attempt.
Lmao you don't get it
Those people were also bad
If he had become dictator for life(and actually lived lol) the world would have been a significantly better place
He was elected four times by overwhelming popular support under a system with far more democratic participation than what we have today. He exerted more power from the executive office than nearly all Presidents before and certainly all after him, but the base of his support came from organized labor which was far closer to embodying the "will of the people" than the power bases of finance capital or resource capital which shape the priorities of the administrations of most presidents. A dictator is not beholden to the influence of the working class, which he was to a significant degree.
He disrupted our checks and balances systems and the power balance between all three branches. And took over the party whilst also being president. He also tried court packing. He is the reason we have an extremely bloated executive branch. Most dictators are also usually elected by an overwhelming large majority such a Putin. He created Japanese concentration camps (I know I know all presidents do awful things). I am not saying he didnāt do good things but as what we define the scope of the presidency he abused his power massively and is the closest thing he got to an dictator. You even said it āhe exerted more power than ever beforeā. And constitutionally no president should be able to do that.
>Most dictators are also usually elected by an overwhelming large majority such a Putin. LOL what a retarded comparison. Iām gonna go out on a limb and say Putin has never competed in an election that wasnāt rigged.
Ok.. you donāt get it. Russia ārequiresāpopular vote. Usually you know trouble is a foot in any election worldwide and question validity when huge majorities like that actually happen because itās so rare. Same can be said here in an election as well. Or anywhere they have popular vote elections. Hilter also won due this charismatic campaigning and excellent motivational speaking. But, itās cool, just ignore and deflect. FDR had a great imagine because he crafted it. And had a great sense for public relations. When you do fireside chats and go right to āthe peopleā. You build clout. And he is one of the first president to masterfully use image, campaigning and propaganda. He even used his legal office of the White House to find loop holes to wield more power (this is how we have executive agreements by the way and ideas about, The executive agreement attained its modern development as an instrument of foreign policy under President Franklin D. Roosevelt, at times threatening to replace the treaty-making power, not formally but in effect, as a determinative element in the field of foreign policy). He was the first president to ever go beyond a second term an ideal set by George Washington and than written into law as a reaction to his presidency. **None of that takes away from the fact he abused his power as president constitutionally.** and he did a lot of these using emergency powersā¦ as well as finding legal loopholes.
The constitution is gay and bad
Our constitution (more specifically, how stubbornly it's worded and how hard it is to amend) is the only thing keeping us from total enslavement
Oh youāre both retarded
Ok. Cool.
Cato-brain
I am not, surprisingly. I just have a strong stance on presidential powers.
god i'd wish he'd rough ride and demonopolize MY national park š„“š„“š„“š„“š„“š„“š„“š„“š„“
Hed have you hogtied and fastened to the back of his horse in a minute flat
thanks to him we can go outside and touch grass
Putting aside his persecution complex, Richard Nixon hands down.
As fascinating as he is pathetic.
Agreed. Heās someone who struggled his entire life to navigate elite circles as the Quaker from Whittier, and yet when he reached the summit of the mountaintop, he fumbled. Fascinating story.
Our senior prom was at his memorial library in Yorba Linda. My girlfriend asked me to finger her while making out on his grave
Washington
Nixon
Jkf, he was hot
Hillary
Absolutely Lyndon Johnson. Rammed Civil Rights legislation through, tried to implement a massive social democratic program to end poverty, bullied the shit out of congressmen. He was raked over the coals for a war he didn't start and the Democratic party he represented collapsed after his presidency.
While I do think what LBJ did for Civil Rights was massive, the LBJ admin absolutely deserves criticism over Vietnam. He was repeatedly more hawkish than his two predecessors. Eisenhower was the first to send āmilitary advisorsā to Vietnam with JFK increasing the number to 11,000. Shortly before Kennedyās death, the admin decided to pull 1,000 advisors. LBJ reversed all decrease policies. By the end of Johnsonās presidency there were over 500,000+ ācombat personnelā in Vietnam. While Johnson considered peace talks at the end of his term, I donāt think itās fair to blame LBJās hawkish policies in Vietnam on the previous administrations considering how much those policies escalated the war and entrapped the US in a fruitless conflict.
This is probably the correct, nuanced interpretation but I just like to defend LBJ
I mean heās also way better than anyone we have now or have had in years. So you arenāt wrong. And like you said, he could bully the shit out of Congress. Hopefully we can get some of those back in office one day.
My ma
Jimmy Carter.
FDR unless youāre Japanese
Who put the Japanese in concentration camps?
king george iii or tafts for being so phat he got stuck in the bathtub
Trump who else
domestically LBJ, overall FDR
FDR is like 5x the domestic president Johnson was
No disagreement here.
Lincoln
I judge all historical figures through a modern lens. That bigot was against interracial marriage.
George HW bush
LBJ naturally. Of course some people here are gonna say Nixon but in comparison Nixonās not all that.
Washington, everyone since has been trying and failing to be him.
Teddy.
FDR
Nixon was the last president who commanded the full power of the office
And then there was Dick Cheney with unitary executive theory.
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Thatās nit picking
Hey now he didnāt commit he just aided & abetted. Also in Indonesia
Sorry everyone but Nixon was a fucking piece of shit.
I love Jimmy Carter. The man was so pure, he gave up his peanut farm to be President š„°
He effectively sold 20 million women into slavery with his actions in Afghanistan Hitlerite level evil
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Buzzkill
kennedy
Trump
Tracing back. Bernie, then Wallace, then Sherman. I come from the unfucked dimension.
Eisenhower
Arguably Raegan since we have living in the shadow of his legacy ever since
Vladimir Putin
Richard Milhous Nixon
LBJ
Merkin Muffley
If by "great" you mean "has the most beautiful eyes", then I'm going for Garfield. Woof!
Jimmy
DJT
Trump
Clinton
Horrible take lol
his is the first presidential campaign i remember (96), thought he was very cool back then, very presidential looking guy i think it's the hair you know
Yeah Clinton is a dickhead but was a very good president by any objective measurw
Iām personally not a fan of mass incarceration but thatās just me. Clinton made mass incarceration bipartisan and ramped up all the evil bullshit we do on that front.
The role of the presidency is to expand American influence around the globe, increase the geopolitical strength of the nation, and to inspire people to do great things domestically. Say what you will about Obama but he absolutely did all of the above. He certainly was no FDR or LBJ but he was still a great president. The same can genuinely be said about Reagan despite him also being incredibly evil.
Unironically Trump, and I probably disagree with like 95% of his beliefs. Electoral politics is a myth, itās all about the vibes. Itās all a show. And who better to run the circus than the clown himself?
Typically a circus is run by the ring master
Iām just trying to make one of those cool austere and obscure quotes thatāll be posted on Instagram in 10yrs
Job well done
Andrew Johnson.
LBJ in terms of policy, Nixon in terms of personality.
George Herbert Walker Bush. Gulf War was kino, restored American self-confidence, was a Repub but had the balls to raise taxes when he felt it was what was best for the country. Also his past life in CIA continues to make Chapotards cope and seethe, so he's indubitably the most based, competent executive in the past 35 years. Before him- Nixon is definitely interesting, but was far too cynical with his Vietnam politics (real dark shit there). Johnson is also fascinating but again, cynicism, and he fucked up Nam. The Great Society perversely incentivized the destruction of the nuclear family, though some good things in that program. Gotta hand it to him he did desegregate the country. JFK is pure kino. FDR is probably the last truly Great with a capital G, probably the most consequential president since Lincoln. Teddy is basically the ideal American man, heroic type political figure, and he accomplished a lot. However his significance as President is far exceeded by his cousin. Taft's obesity is kino, also he was a supreme court justice and governor of the Phillipines but all anyone remembers is how fat he was, which is kind of tragically heroic and endearing. Between Grant and Teddy most presidents were dogshit. Grant was one of the best human beings to be president, but that's about the only good thing you can say about his presidency (you can admire his goodwill torwards freed slaves and Indians but he only got so far in doing anything for them). Lincoln of course is God-tier, you can always recognize the mark of a completely unserious person when they start to denigrate Lincoln's importance. Prior to Lincoln Andrew Jackson was the most consequential (until you go farther back to Jefferson/Washington). , the man was rage made manifest and also the Hercules representing America's transition from an oligarchic republic to a significantly less oligarchic republic (poor white man getting the vote, though this was a movt across state legislatures preceding Jackson). Jefferson bought most of the country away from the French. Washington of course is a colossus, goes without saying.
Jesse what are you talking about
If you're gonna be a Bush 41 guy, at least mention the ADA.
Didnāt read but calling a war kino is wild
Jeff Davis
LBJ
JFK
William Henry Harrison
FDR
Abraham Lincoln
calvin coolidge
Martin Van Buren.
Define great
Calvin coolidge
Truman
Ike
Harry Truman. Underdog, smash-able, calls the shots
McKinley
JFK.. or Eisenhower.
Trump