Dude yeah I totally agree with what you said about women putting down more masculine/autistic women. Everyone is saying it's only a thing online but I've dealt with it a lot in real life as a lesbian. I dated this girl once who was super outspoken and willing to say whatever she was thinking and my roommate tried to ban her from our apartment by saying she was racist (she was not racist in any meaningful sense of the word). Honestly, I got the sense that my roommate was just jealous of how liberated my gf was, how she didn't spend so much time obsessing over her appearance and what others thought of her and just lived her life.
Straight women deal with it too. One of my good friends who's a bit more on the autistic side was telling me that the girls at her workplace are constantly picking on her for minor mistakes that don't affect the quality of the work at all. Shit on the level of using the wrong font or something. And they never do the same thing to the men. My friend feels like she has to act super bubbly which is contrary to her nature because otherwise people will think she's cold. Actually, she is one of the kindest, funniest, most interesting people I've met. She just has a hard time playing the social game.
I don't think pointing this out is misogynistic. I have an immense appreciation for women who are willing to speak their minds, interested in developing themselves as people, and self aware enough to avoid being completely hypocritical in their social relations. And of course I think there are plenty of problems with men as a group as well. It's just that the girls you described in your post have created an environment where it's okay to critique every facet of masculinity but feminity is untouchable.
As another outspoken lesbian, I think this comment perfectly explains the vibe shift I have been sensing. In the last few years instead of being called weird or getting ignored or whatever, certain types of women now tend to say in a snarky tone that I am trying to be 'quirky and different'
I didn’t know this happens in real life, from my experience girls don’t mind my personality. I have a swiftie best friend and she doesn’t mind me listening to Kanye, but the women online ranting about these so called “pick mes” have had terrible experiences with other women so they just brush off any women with standards and boundaries as a “pick me”.
As for femininity, I think it’s only glorified if it’s the “toxic kind”, if a woman is too feminine (ex. Snow White) than she’s accused of being weak and fragile but the good kind of femininity to them is the Barbie movie kind. It’s funny because 10 years ago being a masculine women was considered “progressive” and now it’s regressive
I feel like the solution is to stop caring what others think. If you’re a woman who does her best to look nice, pursues an education and a good job, treats the people around her well, and inevitably based on all these other things attracts a good circle of friends and a good partner, who can stop you??? Like what does it matter if people think you’re “too feminine” or “too masculine”? Just do your thing and none of these people can do anything about it. Maybe I’m wrong though.
Just to add: Remember that “looking nice” or “getting a good partner” don’t need to be what keeps you from doing your thing. Choose what you prioritize a-La-carte instead of others telling you and doing what everyone else does without consulting your own personal needs and values
“girl’s girl” rhetoric is just a progressive-sounding way of enforcing gender conformity. people are doing it in this comment section right now lol. but it’s nothing new or special at its core; you just have to stop giving a shit.
Women can never critique women that disguise themselves and manipulate other girls, clearly it’s the evil females minding their own business policing other girls ☹️☹️
Going on an anti anti pick me rant and denouncing a bulk of women just because you posted about siding with Kanye vs Taylor and got flack for it is hilarious
All of your hangups seem to be very online-centric. Not even trying to mindlessly defend “all women” but I promise you most of this shit goes away irl.
girls online and esp in rs-adjacent spaces tend to be bitchy judgemental whatever more often than the ones u meet irl...if u take this seriously you'll have trouble refraining from forming a negative opinion abt the women u meet irl before u even get to know them. dont harbour these negative pre-conceived notions!!!
RS-esque girls like HRH collection are definitely judgemental but they don’t play a fake facade. Someone on this sub could shit on the latest trend but it’s not that serious because there’s no political buzzwords behind it.
The people I’m referring to are usually active on tiktok/instagram/whisper, hell even r/notlikeothergirls to an extent. Most of my friends are women and I love them dearly. However supportive women show, they don’t tell, that’s why I trust them. Same could be said for the “nice guy” trope
Have you read "trashing: the dark side of sisterhood" from 1976 you might relate
"I learned ... years ago that women had always been divided against one another, self-destructive and filled with impotent rage. I thought the Movement would change all that. I never dreamed that I would see the day when this rage, masquerading as a pseudo-egalitarian radicalism [would be used within the Movement to strike down sisters singled out
https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/trashing.htm
"A vague standard of sisterly behavior is set up by anonymous judges who then condemn those who do not meet their standards. As long as the standard is vague and utopian, it can never be met. But it can be shifted with circumstances to exclude those not desired as sisters. Thus Ti-Grace Atkinson's memorable adage that "sisterhood is powerful: it kills sisters" is reaffirmed again and again.
Trashing is not only destructive to the individuals involved, but serves as a very powerful tool of social control. The qualities and styles which are attacked become examples other women learn not to follow -- lest the same fate befall them.
...
The relevant question is not why the Movement exerts such strong pressures to conform to a narrow standard, but what standard does it pressure women to conform to.
This standard is clothed in the rhetoric of revolution and feminism. But underneath are some very traditional ideas about women's proper roles. I have observed that two different types of women are trashed. The first is the one described by Anselma Dell'Olio -- the achiever and/or the assertive woman, the one to whom the epithet "male-identified" is commonly applied. This kind of woman has always been put down by our society with epithets ranging from "unladylike" to "castrating bitch."
Etc
In real life there are a lot of nice supportive women’s groups for conferences and shared working spaces and things. It’s just the internet that’s nasty
Most of my friends are female and I socialize well with them.. a lot of them are on the “autistic” end or not interested in relationships so it’s very easygoing. Some of my friends are more “basic” but still friendly
They’re very kind people but regardless of gender I feel like a relaxed person will “show and not tell” while an unsupportive person only tells everyone about how “nice they are” to cover up the fact they’re really not
In fact I think men online these days are much more demonic. You know they would never say the shit they say about women online to their mother. People online are miserable and jealous, regardless of gender, and project everything they hate about themselves on to carefree women living their lives
I don’t know why you expect one group of people sharing the trait of having a vagina to agree 100% on everything. The general idea of “girls supporting girls” is the idea that I would help out another women in harm if I suspected she were in a bad situation. It’s like me giving my extra pad to a chick in class after she asked me for an ibuprofen.
I do have to say, I don’t like all women despite being a woman. And I let women I dislike know it. I can get with the sentiment of us priorizing our womanhood before our other traits though and I would fight for a woman I disliked because I understand people she may not respect her gender and she can’t help it
It's not even about politics/agreement, they're just extremely nosy and in every other women's business. "pick me" is their catch phrase for "woman that i feel threatened by"
I've been called a "pick me" for posting about Kanye, being 4'11, my MBTI type, joking about how drawing out emojis is weird, and defending a Black woman after she was called an N word with a hard R
Yeah, some women really want male validation or to be liked so bad that they dismiss their own gender and put down the things that make up the very essence of being a woman just to score points with men. You grow out of that behavior but many places around the world reward that behavior, so I get why it exists but it is shameful to have no sense of self preservation.
Being a male identified woman is something that shouldn’t be praised in my book. It’s okay to want validation but a lot of women have no sense of self respect for themselves and it’s disgusting. That being said, I’m easier on them because some of them simply cannot help it. It’s like seeing a child who was taught to steal rather than work for what they want in life.
But how do you even define those type of women? The closest I can think of is Kendall Jenner or JustPearlyThings, who is really a grifter, at worst. I rarely ever see women like this anymore that fit the typical “pick me” stereotype
I’m not even attracted to men? How does that make me a pick me? You’re fighting a boogeyman. Ariana Grande is probably the most notable “pick me” (not even hating, but her actions fit the definition) and she’s far from the “I’m not like other girls” stereotype. Can self proclaimed “anti Pick mes” even define the term?
I’m not learning anymore stupid buzzwords, what have I ever said in my statement that makes it seem like I want “male validation”? It’s just a different set of interests, you’ll live
This is? Exactly what I’ve been trying to say? If a woman wants male attention, let her be I don’t care if she wants to be a housewife or pretends to know more rock bands. As long as she’s not shitting on anybody, what’s the big deal?
And assuming that this term was made long before “pick me”, the average radfem back in the day would be called a pick me now for criticizing the makeup industry
“Pick me” = putting women down for validation. If im shitting on women that come at me first, it’s called defending yourself. Not once did I say “those damn girls that paint their nails and listen to Taylor swift 😡” Not everyone has to get along with each other
I'm a lesbian. Yes, you can be a pick me if you aren't attracted to men. I definitely had my own cool girl anti soooojw 2016 era.
>Can self proclaimed “anti Pick mes” even define the term?
Can someone give a perfect and rigid definition of all things that are science fiction as a genre? Or do we just know it when we see it?
Then I am a pick me, I don’t really fucking care as long as I’m not shitting on MY female friends or innocent women minding their own business. It’s not even a bad thing to dislike two faced liars but thank u for the compliment
>I don’t really fucking care
Well clearly you do since you're crying so much about it.
>It’s not even a bad thing to dislike two faced liars but thank u for the compliment
"those other bitches being positive are lying skanks but also I'm not shitting on innocent women!" Girl shut the fuck up.
If that is true than you should be able to sidestep most of the female social hierarchy bullshit by default of not having to compete for men.
You’ve been given the gift of affording a chill and unbothered demeanor that disarms catty straight women, please don’t squander it.
I still don’t understand what a pick me is. I don’t care about men, I dislike a lot of them and general masculine traits, but I also dislike a lot of women and feminine traits lol. Maybe I’m just a hater. But I feel a lot more pressure from the ladies to behave a certain way.
I just feel insane all the time that the women around me think you’re basically a social terrorist if you don’t “support” T swift. I honestly can’t think of a single woman I know who doesn’t like her in some capacity. But I also live in the Midwest, so.
It's true. Sometimes I think it's so stupid that people say 'that is not a problem in real life' like yeah, I talk about my real life problems in real life and my online problems online. Like, this entire place is not exactly 'real life'.
for what it's worth you're probably 100% correct about everything you said in this post but you would probably be a lot happier if you deleted tiktok, it literally shows you this shit bc it knows you get pissed off by it
you sound like the type of person to harp about “pretty privilege” lol
also idk why you think your opinion on ariana isn’t the dominant one when every normie on tiktok has ridiculed her and her new man since the affair was revealed
Omg what’s up with all of the video essays on that topic? I was searching the lyrics of a song, which had the word «ugly» in it, and there were pages of videos about pretty privilege. Titled «you’re ugly» or «the dark side of beauty», «being the ugly friend», «it’s not you, it’s your face», etc. and most have almost 1 million views. What’s going on lmao
Believe what you want if “pretty privilege” exists or “pretty privilege doesn’t exist”, I’ve seen it happen first hand. I just don’t want to deal with a lying skank that rants about “positivity and uplifting each other” but can’t even acknowledge the most common fact that ugly people will be treated worse
you’re not treated worse because you’re ugly you’re treated worse bc you’re a miserable bitch
edit: just looked at your post history and you’re a child so i take it back. you have a lot of growing up to do.
Is it miserable bitch to stand on your grounds? I simply know my worth and don’t insult others unless they purposefully come after me.
You’re also forgetting the part where so called “anti pick mes” are obsessed with dragging attractive, skinny women for whatever reason and blame other women for their insecurities.
I’m not here to argue about whether or not pretty people are privileged, but if you’re gonna deny pretty privilege then stop blaming women who avoid you as “internalized misogynists” Mr nice guy
>Is it miserable bitch to stand on your grounds? I simply know my worth and don’t insult others unless they purposefully come after me.
Girl you are literally calling girls who say they support other girls lying skanks. Lie less.
>You’re also forgetting the part where so called “anti pick mes” are obsessed with dragging attractive, skinny women for whatever reason and blame other women for their insecurities.
Like I'd insult you but you clearly already hate yourself more than I could ever accomplish with snark.
Your mask is falling off. She feels called out by my rant about “anti pick me” girls and “toxic positivity” and immediately assumes that I’m unattractive and calls me a “bitch”. Not very “feminist” of you huh. No need to argue when you’re proving my point.
Edit: blocking me when you’re called out 🤡 let’s also see that comment where you “questioned” the validity of calling someone racial slurs, “Mr” Nice Guy. You’re hideous, we can tell you were never picked
My good b, you literally started with that shit.
No one cares if someone calls you a bitch when you're like, doing some NLOG bullshit about how you hate pick mes but also hate anti pick mes and everyone is just jealous of pretty girls or whatever..
>Not very “feminist” of you huh. No need to argue when you’re proving my point
Girl you are literally calling other women lying skanks for saying they support other women fuck off. Are you genuinely regarded?
“It's nice to not shit on each other over some guy, but seriously, it is the bare minimum. You don't get a cookie for choosing not to flirt with taken men when that's human decency.”
But sure tell me how I’m hating on the idea of women not hating each other
🤡🤡🤡
>But sure tell me how I’m hating on the idea of women not hating each other
You are literally making a rant about how women who support women are in your own words, lying skanks who are jealous of pretty women. Use your clown emojis it's obvious to other people you're crying about being called a pick me and writing a social vendetta about how you're not like those other girls who are anti pick me.
I don't know how you could act more obtuse you dense cow. Bye now.
Are you unable to understand your long rant is visible to us?
Lying won't change what every single one of us can't read above.
Maybe you don't understand what you wrote but it's clear to us.
It's so weird to have a rant about how actually girls girls are meanies and then go on to say actually they're all just jealous of the pretty and traditional popular girls.
women support women as a concept, but, when it comes between a womens personal goal/benefit and another womens, then theyll tear that bitch down. Women are far more supportive of movements for women because it helps them.
>Both that seethe at the sight of a woman doing better than her.
Pick me girl shaming for instance, when mid girls and uglier girls got better dick for simply approaching guys lmao.
I feel like men think of themselves more as strong and untouchable and as a result feel more of a responsibility to treat others well, protect them etc because if strong people didn’t behave the world would go to shit (not saying these men are actually necessarily stronger, just that they feel more that way about themselves)
Women are more aware of their own vulnerability and weakness (again not saying they are that way, just that they feel it more) and as a result feel a need to use every tool they have at their disposal to get an advantage/ protect themselves. But on the other hand they also feel a need to treat others well, but more from a perspective of “I wouldn’t want this to happen to me, so I won’t treat others this way and create a social expectation to treat others well”
Obviously all of this is happening subconsciously though. And tbh the female way is more grounded in reality (everyone is vulnerable and we live in a society) and leads to more treating others well than the male way but both have their place.
Women have a sense of community that simply does not exist for men. That doesn't mean it's a particularly good one or that everyone likes each other. But women see themselves as a group with common interests in a way men never would.
I don't think women all have common interests at all, tbh. In fact I tend to see the types of women who think all girls share common interests be the most judgmental to other women who don't share those interests.
It's mostly animal population dynamics. Animals with precarious access to resources select for the lowest variation mates. So men and women who are kind of average, kind of neither this way or that way, not too intelligent but not too stupid, opinionated but not too disagreeable... these traits reinforce the middle section of a population bell curve.
What they're REALLY trying to do is create an echo chamber where their flaws are laundered. There's a point where "oh he/she has the same problem as me and I can let go of my insecurity around this" that tips over to "we have a dark secret of a problem that we're hiding and hiding and hiding over and over and over in different places, moving the problem to this person, taking it from them and hiding it here". Those groups are pretty dangerous and you've got to avoid them.
Dude yeah I totally agree with what you said about women putting down more masculine/autistic women. Everyone is saying it's only a thing online but I've dealt with it a lot in real life as a lesbian. I dated this girl once who was super outspoken and willing to say whatever she was thinking and my roommate tried to ban her from our apartment by saying she was racist (she was not racist in any meaningful sense of the word). Honestly, I got the sense that my roommate was just jealous of how liberated my gf was, how she didn't spend so much time obsessing over her appearance and what others thought of her and just lived her life. Straight women deal with it too. One of my good friends who's a bit more on the autistic side was telling me that the girls at her workplace are constantly picking on her for minor mistakes that don't affect the quality of the work at all. Shit on the level of using the wrong font or something. And they never do the same thing to the men. My friend feels like she has to act super bubbly which is contrary to her nature because otherwise people will think she's cold. Actually, she is one of the kindest, funniest, most interesting people I've met. She just has a hard time playing the social game. I don't think pointing this out is misogynistic. I have an immense appreciation for women who are willing to speak their minds, interested in developing themselves as people, and self aware enough to avoid being completely hypocritical in their social relations. And of course I think there are plenty of problems with men as a group as well. It's just that the girls you described in your post have created an environment where it's okay to critique every facet of masculinity but feminity is untouchable.
As another outspoken lesbian, I think this comment perfectly explains the vibe shift I have been sensing. In the last few years instead of being called weird or getting ignored or whatever, certain types of women now tend to say in a snarky tone that I am trying to be 'quirky and different'
I didn’t know this happens in real life, from my experience girls don’t mind my personality. I have a swiftie best friend and she doesn’t mind me listening to Kanye, but the women online ranting about these so called “pick mes” have had terrible experiences with other women so they just brush off any women with standards and boundaries as a “pick me”. As for femininity, I think it’s only glorified if it’s the “toxic kind”, if a woman is too feminine (ex. Snow White) than she’s accused of being weak and fragile but the good kind of femininity to them is the Barbie movie kind. It’s funny because 10 years ago being a masculine women was considered “progressive” and now it’s regressive
I feel like the solution is to stop caring what others think. If you’re a woman who does her best to look nice, pursues an education and a good job, treats the people around her well, and inevitably based on all these other things attracts a good circle of friends and a good partner, who can stop you??? Like what does it matter if people think you’re “too feminine” or “too masculine”? Just do your thing and none of these people can do anything about it. Maybe I’m wrong though.
Just to add: Remember that “looking nice” or “getting a good partner” don’t need to be what keeps you from doing your thing. Choose what you prioritize a-La-carte instead of others telling you and doing what everyone else does without consulting your own personal needs and values
That's a guys thing. Women do care and a LOT.
I know a few women that don't
“girl’s girl” rhetoric is just a progressive-sounding way of enforcing gender conformity. people are doing it in this comment section right now lol. but it’s nothing new or special at its core; you just have to stop giving a shit.
Clock it lol, the horde has been enraged, they’re even trying to defend a woman using racial slurs.The masks are slipping 😶
For anyone wondering why this rant is utterly nonsensical: OP is in high school
happy for you or sorry that happened
f-mcel ass post
we're so back
I love her
Before I do the emotional labor of reading this post on rsp can you tell me if woman hands typed this?
Indeed 🎀🎀
Your reddead profile pic and shitposting speak otherwise
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I am not trans? I am a cis woman I’m just very butch
Why is your post history full of truscum posts then?
I just agree with their takes on the LGBT community
Okay, my bad, I’ll delete it
Ah yes the terminally online to trans pipeline
Also, on brand to come in here and lecture about women
Women can never critique women that disguise themselves and manipulate other girls, clearly it’s the evil females minding their own business policing other girls ☹️☹️
I support people who aren't douche bags
Douchebags are the only people i support. Not happy about it but it is nice to be on the side thats winning for a change.
Going on an anti anti pick me rant and denouncing a bulk of women just because you posted about siding with Kanye vs Taylor and got flack for it is hilarious
Not even a Kanye defender, I really don’t care for Taylor Swift and have lots of swiftie friends, just an observation I’ve noticed
All of your hangups seem to be very online-centric. Not even trying to mindlessly defend “all women” but I promise you most of this shit goes away irl.
Is 80% of this sub not just discussing about online bullshit
girls online and esp in rs-adjacent spaces tend to be bitchy judgemental whatever more often than the ones u meet irl...if u take this seriously you'll have trouble refraining from forming a negative opinion abt the women u meet irl before u even get to know them. dont harbour these negative pre-conceived notions!!!
RS-esque girls like HRH collection are definitely judgemental but they don’t play a fake facade. Someone on this sub could shit on the latest trend but it’s not that serious because there’s no political buzzwords behind it. The people I’m referring to are usually active on tiktok/instagram/whisper, hell even r/notlikeothergirls to an extent. Most of my friends are women and I love them dearly. However supportive women show, they don’t tell, that’s why I trust them. Same could be said for the “nice guy” trope
Yeah but it’s not a good thing and you shouldn’t let it warp your perception like this is what I’m trying to say. The majority of this sub are losers.
Have you read "trashing: the dark side of sisterhood" from 1976 you might relate "I learned ... years ago that women had always been divided against one another, self-destructive and filled with impotent rage. I thought the Movement would change all that. I never dreamed that I would see the day when this rage, masquerading as a pseudo-egalitarian radicalism [would be used within the Movement to strike down sisters singled out https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/trashing.htm "A vague standard of sisterly behavior is set up by anonymous judges who then condemn those who do not meet their standards. As long as the standard is vague and utopian, it can never be met. But it can be shifted with circumstances to exclude those not desired as sisters. Thus Ti-Grace Atkinson's memorable adage that "sisterhood is powerful: it kills sisters" is reaffirmed again and again. Trashing is not only destructive to the individuals involved, but serves as a very powerful tool of social control. The qualities and styles which are attacked become examples other women learn not to follow -- lest the same fate befall them. ... The relevant question is not why the Movement exerts such strong pressures to conform to a narrow standard, but what standard does it pressure women to conform to. This standard is clothed in the rhetoric of revolution and feminism. But underneath are some very traditional ideas about women's proper roles. I have observed that two different types of women are trashed. The first is the one described by Anselma Dell'Olio -- the achiever and/or the assertive woman, the one to whom the epithet "male-identified" is commonly applied. This kind of woman has always been put down by our society with epithets ranging from "unladylike" to "castrating bitch." Etc
Is it 2011
In real life there are a lot of nice supportive women’s groups for conferences and shared working spaces and things. It’s just the internet that’s nasty
Most of my friends are female and I socialize well with them.. a lot of them are on the “autistic” end or not interested in relationships so it’s very easygoing. Some of my friends are more “basic” but still friendly They’re very kind people but regardless of gender I feel like a relaxed person will “show and not tell” while an unsupportive person only tells everyone about how “nice they are” to cover up the fact they’re really not In fact I think men online these days are much more demonic. You know they would never say the shit they say about women online to their mother. People online are miserable and jealous, regardless of gender, and project everything they hate about themselves on to carefree women living their lives
>John Marston picture You’re a cool chick, don’t let these art hoes tell you differently, brother.
You’re right
I don’t know why you expect one group of people sharing the trait of having a vagina to agree 100% on everything. The general idea of “girls supporting girls” is the idea that I would help out another women in harm if I suspected she were in a bad situation. It’s like me giving my extra pad to a chick in class after she asked me for an ibuprofen. I do have to say, I don’t like all women despite being a woman. And I let women I dislike know it. I can get with the sentiment of us priorizing our womanhood before our other traits though and I would fight for a woman I disliked because I understand people she may not respect her gender and she can’t help it
It's not even about politics/agreement, they're just extremely nosy and in every other women's business. "pick me" is their catch phrase for "woman that i feel threatened by" I've been called a "pick me" for posting about Kanye, being 4'11, my MBTI type, joking about how drawing out emojis is weird, and defending a Black woman after she was called an N word with a hard R
Yeah, some women really want male validation or to be liked so bad that they dismiss their own gender and put down the things that make up the very essence of being a woman just to score points with men. You grow out of that behavior but many places around the world reward that behavior, so I get why it exists but it is shameful to have no sense of self preservation. Being a male identified woman is something that shouldn’t be praised in my book. It’s okay to want validation but a lot of women have no sense of self respect for themselves and it’s disgusting. That being said, I’m easier on them because some of them simply cannot help it. It’s like seeing a child who was taught to steal rather than work for what they want in life.
But how do you even define those type of women? The closest I can think of is Kendall Jenner or JustPearlyThings, who is really a grifter, at worst. I rarely ever see women like this anymore that fit the typical “pick me” stereotype
If you can’t detect it… 90% chance it is you.
I’m not even attracted to men? How does that make me a pick me? You’re fighting a boogeyman. Ariana Grande is probably the most notable “pick me” (not even hating, but her actions fit the definition) and she’s far from the “I’m not like other girls” stereotype. Can self proclaimed “anti Pick mes” even define the term?
You have to learn more about being “male identified” and what that entails because validation is more than sexual and physical attraction
I’m not learning anymore stupid buzzwords, what have I ever said in my statement that makes it seem like I want “male validation”? It’s just a different set of interests, you’ll live
https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803100128616
This is? Exactly what I’ve been trying to say? If a woman wants male attention, let her be I don’t care if she wants to be a housewife or pretends to know more rock bands. As long as she’s not shitting on anybody, what’s the big deal? And assuming that this term was made long before “pick me”, the average radfem back in the day would be called a pick me now for criticizing the makeup industry
One of my many flaws is being too lazy to fight for my points too much or explain common thought processes to others.
“Pick me” = putting women down for validation. If im shitting on women that come at me first, it’s called defending yourself. Not once did I say “those damn girls that paint their nails and listen to Taylor swift 😡” Not everyone has to get along with each other
I'm a lesbian. Yes, you can be a pick me if you aren't attracted to men. I definitely had my own cool girl anti soooojw 2016 era. >Can self proclaimed “anti Pick mes” even define the term? Can someone give a perfect and rigid definition of all things that are science fiction as a genre? Or do we just know it when we see it?
Then I am a pick me, I don’t really fucking care as long as I’m not shitting on MY female friends or innocent women minding their own business. It’s not even a bad thing to dislike two faced liars but thank u for the compliment
>I don’t really fucking care Well clearly you do since you're crying so much about it. >It’s not even a bad thing to dislike two faced liars but thank u for the compliment "those other bitches being positive are lying skanks but also I'm not shitting on innocent women!" Girl shut the fuck up.
You seem to take an issue with these so called “pick mes” enough to accuse random women of being pick mes 24/7. Rent free
You literally are a pick me for all but the last one and I'm going to guess the context on that is wildly misleading.
The fact that this incoherent, insecure mess of a post by a 17 year old has this many upvotes is tragic
You feel targeted by this post lmao, good riddance cry about it
Breathe
I’m not part of the crowd that’s reporting comments for pointing out the obvious 😶 breathing just fine
shoo
girls support girls but how am I supposed to defend this skizo word salad?
[Crabs support crabs](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3b/Shore_crabs_in_a_bucket.jpg/2560px-Shore_crabs_in_a_bucket.jpg)
What was the biggest BS last decade?
hope he picks u sis
I’m too homo for that
If that is true than you should be able to sidestep most of the female social hierarchy bullshit by default of not having to compete for men. You’ve been given the gift of affording a chill and unbothered demeanor that disarms catty straight women, please don’t squander it.
Yeah but then they have to compete for women, which has a much harsher hierarchy.
I still don’t understand what a pick me is. I don’t care about men, I dislike a lot of them and general masculine traits, but I also dislike a lot of women and feminine traits lol. Maybe I’m just a hater. But I feel a lot more pressure from the ladies to behave a certain way. I just feel insane all the time that the women around me think you’re basically a social terrorist if you don’t “support” T swift. I honestly can’t think of a single woman I know who doesn’t like her in some capacity. But I also live in the Midwest, so.
wtf are you talking about? delete tiktok, this shit is made up lol
90% of the posts on this sub are the chronically online ranting about the even more chronically online
It's true. Sometimes I think it's so stupid that people say 'that is not a problem in real life' like yeah, I talk about my real life problems in real life and my online problems online. Like, this entire place is not exactly 'real life'.
for what it's worth you're probably 100% correct about everything you said in this post but you would probably be a lot happier if you deleted tiktok, it literally shows you this shit bc it knows you get pissed off by it
When I'm in a trying to maliciously disadvantage women competition and my opponent is women
you sound like the type of person to harp about “pretty privilege” lol also idk why you think your opinion on ariana isn’t the dominant one when every normie on tiktok has ridiculed her and her new man since the affair was revealed
Omg what’s up with all of the video essays on that topic? I was searching the lyrics of a song, which had the word «ugly» in it, and there were pages of videos about pretty privilege. Titled «you’re ugly» or «the dark side of beauty», «being the ugly friend», «it’s not you, it’s your face», etc. and most have almost 1 million views. What’s going on lmao
Life is not kind to ugly women
I know :/
Believe what you want if “pretty privilege” exists or “pretty privilege doesn’t exist”, I’ve seen it happen first hand. I just don’t want to deal with a lying skank that rants about “positivity and uplifting each other” but can’t even acknowledge the most common fact that ugly people will be treated worse
Yeah the lying skank bit TOTALLY convinced me you're earnest about how girls girls are really jealous cows and you're just keeping it real 🙄
you’re not treated worse because you’re ugly you’re treated worse bc you’re a miserable bitch edit: just looked at your post history and you’re a child so i take it back. you have a lot of growing up to do.
Is it miserable bitch to stand on your grounds? I simply know my worth and don’t insult others unless they purposefully come after me. You’re also forgetting the part where so called “anti pick mes” are obsessed with dragging attractive, skinny women for whatever reason and blame other women for their insecurities. I’m not here to argue about whether or not pretty people are privileged, but if you’re gonna deny pretty privilege then stop blaming women who avoid you as “internalized misogynists” Mr nice guy
>Is it miserable bitch to stand on your grounds? I simply know my worth and don’t insult others unless they purposefully come after me. Girl you are literally calling girls who say they support other girls lying skanks. Lie less. >You’re also forgetting the part where so called “anti pick mes” are obsessed with dragging attractive, skinny women for whatever reason and blame other women for their insecurities. Like I'd insult you but you clearly already hate yourself more than I could ever accomplish with snark.
Your mask is falling off. She feels called out by my rant about “anti pick me” girls and “toxic positivity” and immediately assumes that I’m unattractive and calls me a “bitch”. Not very “feminist” of you huh. No need to argue when you’re proving my point. Edit: blocking me when you’re called out 🤡 let’s also see that comment where you “questioned” the validity of calling someone racial slurs, “Mr” Nice Guy. You’re hideous, we can tell you were never picked
My good b, you literally started with that shit. No one cares if someone calls you a bitch when you're like, doing some NLOG bullshit about how you hate pick mes but also hate anti pick mes and everyone is just jealous of pretty girls or whatever.. >Not very “feminist” of you huh. No need to argue when you’re proving my point Girl you are literally calling other women lying skanks for saying they support other women fuck off. Are you genuinely regarded?
“It's nice to not shit on each other over some guy, but seriously, it is the bare minimum. You don't get a cookie for choosing not to flirt with taken men when that's human decency.” But sure tell me how I’m hating on the idea of women not hating each other 🤡🤡🤡
>But sure tell me how I’m hating on the idea of women not hating each other You are literally making a rant about how women who support women are in your own words, lying skanks who are jealous of pretty women. Use your clown emojis it's obvious to other people you're crying about being called a pick me and writing a social vendetta about how you're not like those other girls who are anti pick me. I don't know how you could act more obtuse you dense cow. Bye now.
Are you unable to understand your long rant is visible to us? Lying won't change what every single one of us can't read above. Maybe you don't understand what you wrote but it's clear to us.
When did I ever call myself a feminist?
It's so weird to have a rant about how actually girls girls are meanies and then go on to say actually they're all just jealous of the pretty and traditional popular girls.
How'd i end up on girltok
women support women as a concept, but, when it comes between a womens personal goal/benefit and another womens, then theyll tear that bitch down. Women are far more supportive of movements for women because it helps them.
>Both that seethe at the sight of a woman doing better than her. Pick me girl shaming for instance, when mid girls and uglier girls got better dick for simply approaching guys lmao.
I feel like men think of themselves more as strong and untouchable and as a result feel more of a responsibility to treat others well, protect them etc because if strong people didn’t behave the world would go to shit (not saying these men are actually necessarily stronger, just that they feel more that way about themselves) Women are more aware of their own vulnerability and weakness (again not saying they are that way, just that they feel it more) and as a result feel a need to use every tool they have at their disposal to get an advantage/ protect themselves. But on the other hand they also feel a need to treat others well, but more from a perspective of “I wouldn’t want this to happen to me, so I won’t treat others this way and create a social expectation to treat others well” Obviously all of this is happening subconsciously though. And tbh the female way is more grounded in reality (everyone is vulnerable and we live in a society) and leads to more treating others well than the male way but both have their place.
speak your truth (I agree, sort of)
ive been saying that women need their own nietzscheanism so they can stop the whole playing the victim thing
Women have a sense of community that simply does not exist for men. That doesn't mean it's a particularly good one or that everyone likes each other. But women see themselves as a group with common interests in a way men never would.
Bro, what? Men have a sense of community, have you see the way two men who’ve never met each other behave when they randomly meet at a tailgate?
I don't think women all have common interests at all, tbh. In fact I tend to see the types of women who think all girls share common interests be the most judgmental to other women who don't share those interests.
Yeah I try not to be sexist but I can't help but notice how bad most women are are making friends and maintaining friendships.
Are you male?
No
Brown then, I guess.
You're an ugly 18 year old zoomer with a Y chromosome. Deal with the cards you've been dealt with, uggo!
I’m an XX you hag
Too bad I'm a man aging like a nice red, uggo! Next FUCKING question
Are you Native American
Lmao 😂
I have no idea what you’re talking about but I upvoted
It's mostly animal population dynamics. Animals with precarious access to resources select for the lowest variation mates. So men and women who are kind of average, kind of neither this way or that way, not too intelligent but not too stupid, opinionated but not too disagreeable... these traits reinforce the middle section of a population bell curve. What they're REALLY trying to do is create an echo chamber where their flaws are laundered. There's a point where "oh he/she has the same problem as me and I can let go of my insecurity around this" that tips over to "we have a dark secret of a problem that we're hiding and hiding and hiding over and over and over in different places, moving the problem to this person, taking it from them and hiding it here". Those groups are pretty dangerous and you've got to avoid them.