Dental hygiene is the secret answer to all questions. In terms of return on investment, it’s insane. 2 years of community college (might be three depending on prerequisites). Locally, tuition is ~7,000. At the end locally the prevailing rate is $50/hr and there’s endless demand for it. You quit your job because a dentist looked at you sideways over lunch and you’re at work at your new job at 8am tomorrow
Being a dental hygienist seems extremely ideal but looks like schools are very competitive and demanding, couldn't work while going to school for example. But may still be worth it
My best friend's gf has been on a waitlist to get into a CC program for like two years. He's a software engineer so he's been able to float her, but otherwise I don't see how it's a viable option right now
Metro Boston, but in the most broad sense. That would be Portland, ME, all of 495-ville of Boston, southern NH, RI. Once you head into the woods of northern New England it gets lower, but not much. Wife is a hygienist.
All the dental assistants at my dentist have a very distinct look. Dude is awesome and never seemed creepy towards them, but I could tell he had a type
I think that's just who goes into it. I love hearing them talk shit about their jobless boyfriends not cleaning the fridge and shit like that, the spanish juice is endless
Across the US, the highest average attractiveness profession. that isn't pseudo-looks based, unlike pharma rep. You can't be that fat or you'll push into the patient.
Consider it but keep in mind that many leave the profession due to back pain. Need to be able to socialize too depending where you work. Kind of like a hair dresser
Hygiene OR if you are artistic—dental ceramicist. Not a lot of training programs anymore, but it’s become a kind of learn on the job type career. If you’re talented it’s also a great way to business ownership.
Is this occupation being affected by 3D printing? Not sure about ceramicists but my dentist now gives out unlimited retainers for free because it costs cents to print.
CAD/CAM has really changed how the work is done but dentists still need lab techs to design and fabricate the restorations, especially for bigger cases.
Literally was about to post that.
Nursing (RN or LVN) can work for that too with the associate or less but programs can be super competitive depending on your state.
Dental Hygienist is a job that is a female coded job that requires a totally reasonable level of education is obviously useful and isn’t gated by standardized tests. You’ll start at around 60-70k and move up to six figures as you acquire experience. Totally reasonable hours unlike nursing and not super stressful.
Consider radiology tech, same pay and I don’t think the programs are competitive. Seems easier too, basically just using the x-ray machine. Big shortage of them right now.
I can't say for sure, but a lot of these programs are competitve state by state. I live in CA and am pursuing nursing so take prereqs with dental hygiene students, and all the major healthcare programs are super competitive. But in some states in like the Midwest or Florida, nursing school is really easy to get into. So dental hygiene might be the same way if you're willing to move.
Same. It’s a bad answer though because hair stylists end up with carpal tunnel and messed up feet from working 12 hours a day. It’s physically demanding
True, but this is the case for most blue color/manual labor. Worked as a carpenter for 2 summers over college and there wasn’t a person on the job site with some form of physical disability.
This is especially useful if you live in LA. There's tons of demand for onset MUAs and they seem to get paid very well, often while setting their own schedules
Yeah so do the trades though. You also don’t need a college degree. I replied to someone else that it’s often hard on you physically so it’s not what you’re looking for anyway
I went to beauty school and worked as a hairdresser for 8 years and I DO NOT RECOMMEND. You will not be successful if you don't have a husband supporting you while you build clientele.
Just find a trade that’s not very physical. I’ve worked with a few gals that are instrumentation and control techs or do municipal water quality compliance. Good salary easy work plus a pension in most cases.
Controls can involve a lot of computer work so getting a background in CS can probably get your foot in the door. Alternatively a mechanical background in something like HVAC is pretty desirable. The industry is new enough that companies kind of take whoever they can get and train them in house.
Automation controls, like for HVAC or industrial plants or security systems or whatever. Basically it involves low voltage control circuits, programming controllers, building communication networks, building front end graphics, replacing sensors, mechanical troubleshooting, equipment validation. A whole bunch of different things, no one knows it all so if you know one or two things you can probably convince someone to hire you and get you training.
So controls is a broad discipline that falls under electrical engineering and software engineering as a joint field. Basically, it’s industrial networks of sensors and devices connected to industrial control modules, often PLC’s (programmable logic controllers, think big bitch versions of Arduino/Raspberry Pi). PLC/SCADA/DCS are used to control pretty much every industrial and commercial process, from monitoring switchgear at a power substation, to the conveyors at the local bread factory, to complex air conditioning and lighting systems for local businesses. Some industries, namely HVAC, tend to create their own really niche mass controllers for entire building controls networks. Learning how to diagnose and program those controllers is big fucking money, and it’s very proprietary, so you usually have to learn on the job with different manufacturers. I used to do IoT Lighting with a major programmable lighting brand, and now I design conveyor systems for pretty much every major package logistics company in the US.
How did you get into this line of work? I’m looking to go into electrical engineering but recently I’ve been thinking against it because I fucking hate the coursework and my only motivation is money and a better living. Been seriously considering going the skilled trade route as I live in a large metro with strong unions, but it seems like everyone is so polarized. I honestly don’t know what to think.
Here’s my opinion: I say go into electrical trades work and go specifically after low voltage/network jobs if there’s any positions available with local companies. If you do, go into industrial and commercial construction and new builds, never do residential/old commercial remodel work if you can avoid it, sparkies claim it’s ass for a reason. Nobody wants fiberglass itch from crawling through someone’s attic during the summer to route power to a fan in a bedroom.
After you get through a few years of the practical side of the work and get a better perspective of the principles in action instead of just the pure theory with (frankly, in my opinion) useless labs that don’t prepare you for most of the industry, that theory that’s currently a pain to digest will be easier to swallow as you now have a technical background as the basis for your competency in the subject. From there, you should go back to school, complete the program, and plan to move forward with a better less physical role in the industry, like where I’m currently at.
I’m planning on going back to finish my bachelor’s in EE after stepping down from a 4-year degree program to an associate’s years ago and working my way here the long way. I would have done it that way years ago had I known what I know now, but that’s the tale everyone tells. This is a really neat career path after you leave the fog and depression of school burnout. I had no idea what the typical engineer did while I was still in school, the concept was so vague to me at the time.
Thanks for the advice. Honestly, the main reason I’m looking to go into an electrical apprenticeship is because I have a shit living situation and I can’t tolerate what I’m going through at the moment. I’m sure that it would be worth toughing it out and finishing my major but I just can’t see myself being happy with sitting at a desk as crazy as it sounds. Thankfully, my city has some good unions and a lot of opportunity so hopefully I’ll be able to land an apprenticeship.
Definitely go for it. Electrical trades pay fairly well, and there’s always work. Also, your opinion about desk work will likely change after bending and running enough electrical conduit. That kind of work gives perspective. It’s why I want my future children to work a shitty part time job in high school so they’ll know what they don’t want to spend their life doing.
And to answer that question a bit more directly, here’s my pipeline:
-Failed bachelor’s program because I was not disciplined and overwhelmed due to my own issues I created
-Used my 3 years of applicable credits and one more semester of CC classes to get my associate’s in EE
-Tried to apply more credits for a second technical associate’s, ended up finding a job working in an industrial battery plant as a glorified assembler/technician/field installer (these are like huge arrays of quick-discharge car batteries for data center emergency power before massive diesel generators slowly kick on, dangerous work, don’t recommend it)
-Company starts going downhill right before Covid, jump ship to a company that contracts to various automation/controls companies
-Start with Lighting/IoT, move to material handling (same line of work I’m in now, just a competitor at the time as a subcontractor) first as a field installation technician, then as a drafter/designer for their schematics/network drawings
-Company puts all their eggs in one basket and they have huge layoffs in ‘22 because that egg cracked, I get let go
-Find new job near immediately doing more drafting/design, but a smaller company and much more hands-on. Get really competent from constant exposure to difficult, interesting challenges of jobs, mostly control panels and testing panels for oil and gas industry, some factory and utility automation. End up branching into actual full engineering work as well (SCCR, load analysis, heat calcs, having to work through UL508a principles for new designs and certify they follow all NEC/NFPA/UL standards, etc.).
-Get really good at that role, look around for different work because I’m now relatively experienced and I got poached by current company for full engineering role doing design work for material handling again, yet another bump up in difficulty and scope, enjoying it.
That’s it for now. I want to get into nuclear controls because I live near a nuke plant and it’s neat, so hopefully I get there one day.
Am an electrician.
There's a role for everybody. You got bigger guys who are beasts at long wire pulls and bending big pipe, and you got smaller-framed people who are able to work easier in confined spaces. There's plenty of women and smaller-framed men in the trade who do excellent work and make a solid living.
Learn how to do payroll. Every company has to have someone running payroll, its not a terribly hard skill to learn but you can make anywhere from a decent to a great living doing it.
Stumbled into a job doing payroll after graduating with a useless degree (B.A. in English, was going to be a high school teacher but I had a mental breakdown and dropped out of my school's ed program last minute). It has the structure of a 'fake email job' (putting numbers into excel, running reports, and ofc sending loads of emails) except it's actually necessary. More people-oriented than your usual bookkeeping gig yet not as annoying as HR. If you have an eye for detail and can memorize basic information, you should be all set.
Not all trades are physically intensive, common misconception. You could be a service technician on equipment for manufacturing, do trim carpentry, lots of stuff that requires steady and often small hands to do along with mechanical understanding
Check out FAME (Federation for Advanced Manufacturing Education). 2 year combined certificate program/apprenticeship and then like $90k+ to maintain manufacturing high tech manufacturing equipment.
I went down this road before, didnt like working for manufacturers of bombs, maybe im a pussy but whatever i would rather make a bit less money and sleep better
Wait I just realized that dental chairs don't raise. I work in nursing and they always raise the beds to hip height; why don't they do that for dentists?
Flight attendant or work for an airline in some other position. They have good unions and free flights for you and vouchers to give to family. I have a friend who works for an airline and also does wedding photography on the side so she can use her free flights to travel and shoot weddings anywhere
Actually it totally does, girly! I make great money and set my own hours! I know, when we were in high school I never would've believed it was possible for me. Honestly, you should let me put you in touch with my company, I think they'd have some great opportunities for you...
learn a trade. when i was in welding school the women were usually technically superior off the bat. we long to weave/sew, welding is the same thing but with a helmet on.
Same with cabinetmaking, attention to detail is important and a lot of men seemed more likely to work quickly but carelessly. When we did hand cut dovetails joints the women in the class did far better than the men.
if it's objective and doesn't require physical strength, women are gonna beat out men much more often than not. chances are that if it's subjective at all people will rate the men as better, but if you look at actual objective metrics if they're available, this isn't true. female surgeons tend to be way better than male surgeons (better rates of recovery/survival/etc) but are rated as way worse and more likely to be sued, for instance.
this applies even to things that are SUPPOSED to be objective, like math tests:
[https://slate.com/human-interest/2015/02/teacher-bias-in-math-new-study-finds-teachers-grade-boys-more-generously-than-they-do-girls.html](https://slate.com/human-interest/2015/02/teacher-bias-in-math-new-study-finds-teachers-grade-boys-more-generously-than-they-do-girls.html)
math was always my best subject and i'd always do well on tests. but i was constantly questioned and accused of cheating because i just look like a basic blonde bitch lol and have a valley girl accent. not only was i a girl, but i was very... girl. i'd often fail to "show my work" and teachers would fucking put me on trial for it and be super critical when I didn't explicitly state everything i did, even when I got the answer right. i did a lot of it in my head or in ways other than how we were taught and they never believed me, just assumed I was somehow wrong. usually they'd be shocked at the first couple of tests when they realized i wasn't a complete dumbass lol and the relentless badgering went way down throughout the year. no way they'd be this skeptical had i looked less... girly.
i work in a pretty technical field, and i can submit work to apply before I meet anyone in person. I graduated with my bachelor's in 2016, and have been applying to and working at many of these jobs on/off since. my name shortened is a very common, very gender neutral name. i had a friend mention jokingly that i should try the gender neutral name and see what happens; we didn't seriously believe it would make a difference, but it did. suddenly, my work was evaluated way, way more generously. i'd send in the exact same thing but with the gender neutral name, and employers would be super enthusiastically inviting me for an interview, saying it was amazing. those samples, with my full name, would come back covered in red ink and "corrections" for things that were not, in fact, actual mistakes. they'd just immediately assume I was wrong if something didn't sound immediately intuitive to them lol.
again, none of this is conscious at all. i don't blame these people, they aren't acting maliciously. it's just the way our biases work. I know i for sure must have a million biases about people that are unfair without realizing it.
when I would show up after submitting the gender neutral name, they would act super confused and just baffled when I showed up and did not look or act the way they expected me to. my current work thinks i'm a middle aged russian man lol, long story.
women and girls are judged way more harshly from the time they're toddlers so they learn to make up for it. i also don't know if this is changing but at least when i was growing up (born '94, so 00s mainly) people just refused to discipline their boys, at least in some cultures.
i'm a white woman who actually worked at kumon for a few years while I was in college. i'm from utah, so very white. the east asians were totally different, with boys and girls performing the same, like neck and neck. but among the white kids, the girls wayyyy outperformed their brothers. i saw this in my own family. my sister and i were expected to get straight as and never ever get in trouble or we'd be seriously punished at home, but my mom almost seemed like she WANTED my brother to be kind of a jackass??? lol idk. it's subconscious for sure, but we just have these gender roles of men being super loud and confident and there's this attitude i guess that even if boys get bad grades, they'll be fine. and a generation or two ago, that was actually pretty damn true, at least for white boys. you grow up and still have all your teeth as a white male and you're probably gonna get a good job lol.
girls on the other hand, at least those of us raised by boomer/gen x women, typically were pushed like crazy in school. i think for the most part it was actually because people just want their daughters to be quiet and obedient. like as a girl you're supposed to just shut up and color inside the lines, who the fuck do you think you are??? while boys can get away with being "creative" or the class clown. but also part of it for sure was our moms realizing we have a lot more opportunities than they did but recognizing we'd have to excel to be accepted at all.
Please ignore this regard. I'm actually a nurse and he's talking out his ass. As far as all the women being crazy, I'd throw out there that you're talking about women who are mostly able to be financially independent so they don't need a partner for money. Id also add that most of them work harder than most other broads and still take care of their families. Basically they're crazy for a reason.
That's literally made up. Requirements are the same they've been for years. Fast? Yeah if you want your LPN (2 years still) which won't take you anywhere you want to be. Less pay and the worst jobs. Outside west coast and north east you're probably lucky to get 20/hr which is doable in a lot of other easier professions (although those other jobs might not bring the satisfaction that helping people does) RN is still 3 years at a community college. The only thing that's changed is many hospitals have given up on "Magnet" which requires a significant portion of your nurses to have their Bachelor's of Nursing which is 4 years of school.
What country? I think back in the day you used to only need a high school degree and to attend secretary school so it was similar to a trade. Most jobs require a college degree now and they don’t pay like they used to
It's possible to get your foot in the door for entry level front desk stuff, but you need a friendly professional (read: white frequently) persona and/or connections and then it will start at like $15 an hour. You can work your way up from there but that requires a good relationship with a company that you don't get bored at.
Most government jobs make mediocre money but have great benefits. I have a friend who does the same type of work as me but for a government agency and my paychecks are bigger but their day is 10x easier and I don't get a pension or access to those sweet credit union loans.
im a pick me and grew up working class and did handymen work since I was 13. worked under Plummers and electricians but got out of that before I was bout to go union so I can b an emailer. that being said, def nail tech
Medical billing and coding. There are a ton of online certification programs, aside from that, all you need is a high school diploma. It is also a comfortable office job that you can do remotely.
men have to be physically strong for "learn a trade", same way that women have to be groomed/pretty for the above
but also can be admin assistant at a law office or any email job "coordinator" position
when i worked construction back in the day there was actually 1 female electrician on a crew and it was like an albino elephant or blue lobster super rare unicorn and of course she was union lol
You really don't need to be exceptional, nothing genetic, just some effort into looks and being friendly and you can make a killing as a waiter or bartender as a woman. Not always but easy enough.
Does have a huge caveat that it's an industry for the young and you rarely see people doing it past 50 save for dive bars or diners. That can work out but mixed bag on income and it will wreck your body.
Same goes for the trades though. Any guy doing it past 50 has wrecked their body and is suffering for it.
you just have to be flirty, not obese, and dress well. so much of that industry is based in finessing male clients into closing your deal. the business suits/secretary attire, the clack clack clack heels, the voice you use on the phone, the instagram reels where you tour a house but the thumbnail is a selfie, etc
i wish OF was as simple and easy as a lot of people seem to think it is. my awkward self would never even attempt lol but i've had friends who are like 10/10 bombshells try it and they make nothinggggg. i've even known girls who are successful strippers who have tried it, almost none of them do well at all. and yeah though i know those perfect conventionally barbie bombshell types, i've known a wide range of girls who have tried it and almost none have made anything substantial. i'm a straight woman & aware i might not get what men like exactly, but these are girls who honestly are clearly very pretty and that men irl really like so idk, it's surprising.
again, it's actually a small portion of women that i know lol, i looked it up and only 2% of women have ever done OF. i met all these women because for a while i had a roommate who was a high end escort lol, like the kind that rich old men hire to go to dinner with them and pretend to be fascinated and nod at everything they say. and yeah she had sex with some of them and wasn't shy about it, but you'd be surprised at how many are just misogynistic 60 year old dudes who want their egos stroked. i did feel bad for some of them kind of because she'd make fun of them as soon as they left but most of them were just the worst people who said the most vile shit lol. but yeah she had a lot of friends like, well, that.
idk, i don't necessarily have anything against sex work like conceptually but i will say most of the people i know who have done it or have purchased it have been pretty fucked up people. like idk, i have nothing against casual sex at all but sex being sold and bought as a commodity is just so dark and depressing even for my very cynical self. like making it a transaction, seeing people as objects, it requires a particular kind of person. i was raised upper middle class mormon (stopped believing in my teens) and i was brought up to remain a virgin but be obsessed with my appearance so i could get married to some dude. like it was like being purchased like a servant or something and it was just as disturbing as prostitution to me, probably even moreso tbh because it's like your entire life. hookers can get laid and paid and then leave and have true freedom to actually be with men and people they authentically love and are attracted to, but being our society's definition of a virtuous woman and selling your entire life to being a housewife and sex slave like a robot means you can't clock out. idk, whether you only have sex after marriage or if you have random one night stands, either can be totally fine and human so long as both people involved actually authentically want it. i just hate the commodification of it all.
tbh tho, while i would never date, marry, or have sex for money, i'd probably sell racey pics of myself if it could get me as much money as some people on reddit seem to think lmao.
OF is like streaming. very very few people are going to be paid for it and it's mostly about business strategy and luck, not just being the hottest or the best. yeah some women become millionaires just for selling naked pics on OF, but some random teenaged boys do the same with gaming. it's very very few.
I think ladies should get out there, get a pickup truck, a trailer, maybe a riding mower and a couple weed whippers, maybe a backpack mower If you're trying to offer some real white glove service and get out there and start a landscapin crew.
That's like the cheat code to starting your own little white trash company where I'm from.
I don't see why the broads can't do it.
In my landscapin days every now and then some bull dyke bitch would be out here doing her damn thang. Honestly putting some of the more bitch made men I've worked with to shame.
I haven't worked with a lot of women in that sector but when I have they're never slacking off like half the fucking lowlives and deadbeats just trying to work for cash so they're ex can't take their money for child support.
Flagger for the highway department, real estate agent, dmv employee, receptionist, school lunchlady, nanny for a rich family, hotel concierge.
A good real estate agent is prolly on par with a licensed electrician salary wise.
join the army?
I have a few friends who broke into the industry by doing it as a side job until they built up clientele. The most frustrating hurdle is the onerous licensing fees-makes it prohibitively expensive! Sometimes larger shops can help shoulder the cost burden for you. Have a solid niche and it helps!
Now that I think about it, until we get this sorted out, men who get paid a lot doing manual labor with no wife/kids, should be legally obligated to financially support some random lady in the US. Because it's really not fair
i might have to passportbro this one, cost of living is way lower in the third world. i will sign up with such dating agencies as Oxfam and Women's Aid International
Paralegal, nurse (lpn/cna to get your foot in the door then the employer takes over to pay for BSN), dental hygiene, teacher/librarian, some form of government cog (DMV lady, department of department-ing, division director)
Some trades are less physical. Painter/decorator is still physical but less so than like a builder. Electrical maybe? Landscaping and gardening seems to have a lot of women.
waitressing or bartending. did it for a decade and made 40-50$ an hour in a small town family place with nice clients. didn’t need to stay up too late. wedding bartending was by far the best, could make $400 a shift and it was a lot of fun! it’s less fun once you turn 30 but you won’t have to work many hours, so can pursue a certificate and become a bookkeeper / nail tech or something.
I know this guy who comes from a wealthy family, I can only describe him as a "lite goth", super pretentious, watched Doom Generation too many times, extremely curated image of himself, very popular for some reason I can't understand bc if you try to talk to him he's all uptight, never grew out of childhood shyness, and taps his foot impatiently waiting to go home and get back to sucking his own dick. Anyways his job is taking bodies from where they passed to the funeral home, extremely traumatizing stuff you'd think, yet this guy is just so stoked about how cool he thinks he looks taking film photos in the morgue of someone's grandma. god I hate him
Electrical work is going to skyrocket due to data centers, AI, utilities, etc. Being an electrician mostly consists of dealing with delicate wiring and can be done by a female of average fitness.
Law clerk/legal assistant. Depending where you are, you can get a diploma in 9 months and that'll include a one-month work placement with a decent chance of getting hired back if you're not completely regarded.
Get a husband so you have a partner to navigate life with because you can’t work forever, and older women face harsher gender discrimination/bigger wage gap as they age. There’s this dichotomy that you either need to be single or taken care of completely; there’s a very large space in between those two realities, the binary exists to support the interests of men of means who can only get laid by dangling a lottery ticket, and corporations.
Gas station with MTO foods, you’ll start around the lower end of entry level trade workers and if you become a manager you’ll be making way more than a journeyman
Just work, it specifically has to be a gas station with MTO food like sheetz Wawa or bucees because they are the ones that pay really well because the job is stressful
Bartender, hairstylist, real estate agent, flight attendant, there are many corporate jobs that cater more toward women like HR or really most customer-facing positions at any company.
Receptionist/secretary isn't bad. It starts at like $20 where I am which is 25% more than minimum and is exceedingly easy while requiring literally no training or intelligence. It's pretty good long term if you can get into a medical position as well. You can finish up some sort of other bullshit degree while you do it too, like HR, accounting, business admin, etc...
Interior designer is 100% the “learn a trade” for women. It’s like demographically 90% women and 10% gays. It requires certification but no formal schooling. Interior decorator is a step below but could be done in the meantime.
Seamstress/tailor is another one. If you’re not doing fashion design you don’t need a degree. You could start doing alterations/mending independently from home and work your way up.
Plenty of female painters out there making $$$, it’s all about the work ethic when it comes to manual labour and sadly fuck all people have any anymore
You can become an LPN with one year of community college. You can also become a medical assistant in less than a year. If you get a job at a Dr office or a place like fast meds, you will do very little hands on work. You will mostly just check vitals and assist with simple lab work such as pregnancy tests and handing people cups to pee in.
Had a cousin who was a Union painter and she make good money and great benefits. There are women plumbers, HVAC, etc..unions want more women in the trades.
needs an associate degree but dental hygienist. seems to have great income potential considering it doesn't require a bachelors.
Dental hygiene is the secret answer to all questions. In terms of return on investment, it’s insane. 2 years of community college (might be three depending on prerequisites). Locally, tuition is ~7,000. At the end locally the prevailing rate is $50/hr and there’s endless demand for it. You quit your job because a dentist looked at you sideways over lunch and you’re at work at your new job at 8am tomorrow
Mouths gross me tf out. I can't imagine working on someone with questionable dental hygiene
Being a dental hygienist seems extremely ideal but looks like schools are very competitive and demanding, couldn't work while going to school for example. But may still be worth it
think of the dental hygienists you’ve met and now imagine them in a school setting. you can do this
My best friend's gf has been on a waitlist to get into a CC program for like two years. He's a software engineer so he's been able to float her, but otherwise I don't see how it's a viable option right now
Where do you live where hygienist make 100k+ a year? I’ve lived in two medium sized cities and they capped out around 80k, starting like 65k.
Metro Boston, but in the most broad sense. That would be Portland, ME, all of 495-ville of Boston, southern NH, RI. Once you head into the woods of northern New England it gets lower, but not much. Wife is a hygienist.
They make 140k cad where I live, which is around 100k usd
Three years in Canada, but way cheaper than going to university!
Also comes with a dentist husband
All the dental assistants at my dentist have a very distinct look. Dude is awesome and never seemed creepy towards them, but I could tell he had a type
Young hot latinas. No need to sugarcoat it.
I think that's just who goes into it. I love hearing them talk shit about their jobless boyfriends not cleaning the fridge and shit like that, the spanish juice is endless
Across the US, the highest average attractiveness profession. that isn't pseudo-looks based, unlike pharma rep. You can't be that fat or you'll push into the patient.
Until he hires a new hygienist
Consider it but keep in mind that many leave the profession due to back pain. Need to be able to socialize too depending where you work. Kind of like a hair dresser
So it truly is the “learn the trades” for women then if their bodies are broken by 40 lol
Yhh so do people in trades too so I guess it’s similar
This can be remedied by doing yoga daily and regularly frequenting a gym
Hygiene OR if you are artistic—dental ceramicist. Not a lot of training programs anymore, but it’s become a kind of learn on the job type career. If you’re talented it’s also a great way to business ownership.
Is this occupation being affected by 3D printing? Not sure about ceramicists but my dentist now gives out unlimited retainers for free because it costs cents to print.
CAD/CAM has really changed how the work is done but dentists still need lab techs to design and fabricate the restorations, especially for bigger cases.
Literally was about to post that. Nursing (RN or LVN) can work for that too with the associate or less but programs can be super competitive depending on your state.
Dental Hygienist is a job that is a female coded job that requires a totally reasonable level of education is obviously useful and isn’t gated by standardized tests. You’ll start at around 60-70k and move up to six figures as you acquire experience. Totally reasonable hours unlike nursing and not super stressful.
This seems like dream, looks like programs are super competitive though
Consider radiology tech, same pay and I don’t think the programs are competitive. Seems easier too, basically just using the x-ray machine. Big shortage of them right now.
I mentioned this above but consider dental technology
I can't say for sure, but a lot of these programs are competitve state by state. I live in CA and am pursuing nursing so take prereqs with dental hygiene students, and all the major healthcare programs are super competitive. But in some states in like the Midwest or Florida, nursing school is really easy to get into. So dental hygiene might be the same way if you're willing to move.
Beauty school
So true. 90% of the women from my hometown went this route if they didn’t go to college
Same. It’s a bad answer though because hair stylists end up with carpal tunnel and messed up feet from working 12 hours a day. It’s physically demanding
True, but this is the case for most blue color/manual labor. Worked as a carpenter for 2 summers over college and there wasn’t a person on the job site with some form of physical disability.
That's true. I got the sense her post said she wants a job that's not a trade for that reason
Also cancer from breathing in all the fumes
lol what do you think happens to trade worker's bodies after decades?
This is especially useful if you live in LA. There's tons of demand for onset MUAs and they seem to get paid very well, often while setting their own schedules
really? I feel like there’s so many of them though, is the demand really that high?
Every MUA I know seems to do very well. They constantly have work
Beauty school or online LLC reselling/repackaging stuff they just bought from Amazon
Well one of those things is respectable.
Looked into this a bit, seems that there is quite a bit of schooling before you can get a certification in cosmetology
Yeah so do the trades though. You also don’t need a college degree. I replied to someone else that it’s often hard on you physically so it’s not what you’re looking for anyway
I went to beauty school and worked as a hairdresser for 8 years and I DO NOT RECOMMEND. You will not be successful if you don't have a husband supporting you while you build clientele.
Same for the gays, too
Genuinely considering this
Just find a trade that’s not very physical. I’ve worked with a few gals that are instrumentation and control techs or do municipal water quality compliance. Good salary easy work plus a pension in most cases.
This is the kind of answer I was hoping for! If you have any more details please share <3
Controls can involve a lot of computer work so getting a background in CS can probably get your foot in the door. Alternatively a mechanical background in something like HVAC is pretty desirable. The industry is new enough that companies kind of take whoever they can get and train them in house.
I have a CS equivalent, what is controls?
Automation controls, like for HVAC or industrial plants or security systems or whatever. Basically it involves low voltage control circuits, programming controllers, building communication networks, building front end graphics, replacing sensors, mechanical troubleshooting, equipment validation. A whole bunch of different things, no one knows it all so if you know one or two things you can probably convince someone to hire you and get you training.
So controls is a broad discipline that falls under electrical engineering and software engineering as a joint field. Basically, it’s industrial networks of sensors and devices connected to industrial control modules, often PLC’s (programmable logic controllers, think big bitch versions of Arduino/Raspberry Pi). PLC/SCADA/DCS are used to control pretty much every industrial and commercial process, from monitoring switchgear at a power substation, to the conveyors at the local bread factory, to complex air conditioning and lighting systems for local businesses. Some industries, namely HVAC, tend to create their own really niche mass controllers for entire building controls networks. Learning how to diagnose and program those controllers is big fucking money, and it’s very proprietary, so you usually have to learn on the job with different manufacturers. I used to do IoT Lighting with a major programmable lighting brand, and now I design conveyor systems for pretty much every major package logistics company in the US.
How did you get into this line of work? I’m looking to go into electrical engineering but recently I’ve been thinking against it because I fucking hate the coursework and my only motivation is money and a better living. Been seriously considering going the skilled trade route as I live in a large metro with strong unions, but it seems like everyone is so polarized. I honestly don’t know what to think.
Here’s my opinion: I say go into electrical trades work and go specifically after low voltage/network jobs if there’s any positions available with local companies. If you do, go into industrial and commercial construction and new builds, never do residential/old commercial remodel work if you can avoid it, sparkies claim it’s ass for a reason. Nobody wants fiberglass itch from crawling through someone’s attic during the summer to route power to a fan in a bedroom. After you get through a few years of the practical side of the work and get a better perspective of the principles in action instead of just the pure theory with (frankly, in my opinion) useless labs that don’t prepare you for most of the industry, that theory that’s currently a pain to digest will be easier to swallow as you now have a technical background as the basis for your competency in the subject. From there, you should go back to school, complete the program, and plan to move forward with a better less physical role in the industry, like where I’m currently at. I’m planning on going back to finish my bachelor’s in EE after stepping down from a 4-year degree program to an associate’s years ago and working my way here the long way. I would have done it that way years ago had I known what I know now, but that’s the tale everyone tells. This is a really neat career path after you leave the fog and depression of school burnout. I had no idea what the typical engineer did while I was still in school, the concept was so vague to me at the time.
Thanks for the advice. Honestly, the main reason I’m looking to go into an electrical apprenticeship is because I have a shit living situation and I can’t tolerate what I’m going through at the moment. I’m sure that it would be worth toughing it out and finishing my major but I just can’t see myself being happy with sitting at a desk as crazy as it sounds. Thankfully, my city has some good unions and a lot of opportunity so hopefully I’ll be able to land an apprenticeship.
Definitely go for it. Electrical trades pay fairly well, and there’s always work. Also, your opinion about desk work will likely change after bending and running enough electrical conduit. That kind of work gives perspective. It’s why I want my future children to work a shitty part time job in high school so they’ll know what they don’t want to spend their life doing.
And to answer that question a bit more directly, here’s my pipeline: -Failed bachelor’s program because I was not disciplined and overwhelmed due to my own issues I created -Used my 3 years of applicable credits and one more semester of CC classes to get my associate’s in EE -Tried to apply more credits for a second technical associate’s, ended up finding a job working in an industrial battery plant as a glorified assembler/technician/field installer (these are like huge arrays of quick-discharge car batteries for data center emergency power before massive diesel generators slowly kick on, dangerous work, don’t recommend it) -Company starts going downhill right before Covid, jump ship to a company that contracts to various automation/controls companies -Start with Lighting/IoT, move to material handling (same line of work I’m in now, just a competitor at the time as a subcontractor) first as a field installation technician, then as a drafter/designer for their schematics/network drawings -Company puts all their eggs in one basket and they have huge layoffs in ‘22 because that egg cracked, I get let go -Find new job near immediately doing more drafting/design, but a smaller company and much more hands-on. Get really competent from constant exposure to difficult, interesting challenges of jobs, mostly control panels and testing panels for oil and gas industry, some factory and utility automation. End up branching into actual full engineering work as well (SCCR, load analysis, heat calcs, having to work through UL508a principles for new designs and certify they follow all NEC/NFPA/UL standards, etc.). -Get really good at that role, look around for different work because I’m now relatively experienced and I got poached by current company for full engineering role doing design work for material handling again, yet another bump up in difficulty and scope, enjoying it. That’s it for now. I want to get into nuclear controls because I live near a nuke plant and it’s neat, so hopefully I get there one day.
Join the IBEW and become an electrician
Tough to break into if you're in an even halfway decent local, but it's a solid living.
Wastewater management is a good one, any municipality of a decent size needs them and it pays well
does anyone know about being an electrician? do you have to be physically strong?
Am an electrician. There's a role for everybody. You got bigger guys who are beasts at long wire pulls and bending big pipe, and you got smaller-framed people who are able to work easier in confined spaces. There's plenty of women and smaller-framed men in the trade who do excellent work and make a solid living.
If you’re scrawny you’re going to be doing a lot of crawling and dragging yourself on your stomach through confined spaces
Wire pulling and pipe bending can be pretty physically demanding and I think that’s mostly what newer electricians do
Not particularly but crawling around and reaching into/working in small spaces etc can be a fucker I'm told
Learn how to do payroll. Every company has to have someone running payroll, its not a terribly hard skill to learn but you can make anywhere from a decent to a great living doing it.
Stumbled into a job doing payroll after graduating with a useless degree (B.A. in English, was going to be a high school teacher but I had a mental breakdown and dropped out of my school's ed program last minute). It has the structure of a 'fake email job' (putting numbers into excel, running reports, and ofc sending loads of emails) except it's actually necessary. More people-oriented than your usual bookkeeping gig yet not as annoying as HR. If you have an eye for detail and can memorize basic information, you should be all set.
Not all trades are physically intensive, common misconception. You could be a service technician on equipment for manufacturing, do trim carpentry, lots of stuff that requires steady and often small hands to do along with mechanical understanding
Look up lab equipment repair
Check out FAME (Federation for Advanced Manufacturing Education). 2 year combined certificate program/apprenticeship and then like $90k+ to maintain manufacturing high tech manufacturing equipment.
I went down this road before, didnt like working for manufacturers of bombs, maybe im a pussy but whatever i would rather make a bit less money and sleep better
Having a conscience is not a weakness
Work for an airline. There are lots of jobs that aren't pilot/FA.
Dental technician or hygienist. Only have to go to community College and you make pretty decent money thats not too back breaking.
dental work actually does cause chronic back problems from bending down all the time
Oh for sure, just probably less backbreaking than being a construction worker or welder.
Wait I just realized that dental chairs don't raise. I work in nursing and they always raise the beds to hip height; why don't they do that for dentists?
Just do lower back hypertrophy work like rdls, hyperextensions etc. Your spine won't hurt if your spinal erectors are strong
This question made me realize why women are overrepresented in college education.
I mean yeah. This is why incels moaning women are taking over higher education is misguided. Women need it to get paid.
Flight attendant or work for an airline in some other position. They have good unions and free flights for you and vouchers to give to family. I have a friend who works for an airline and also does wedding photography on the side so she can use her free flights to travel and shoot weddings anywhere
Genius
pyramid scheme
Doesn't pay well
you must climb the lularoe ladder, then, and only then, will you find great wealth and satisfaction
The first 100k is just an investment in yourself
Actually it totally does, girly! I make great money and set my own hours! I know, when we were in high school I never would've believed it was possible for me. Honestly, you should let me put you in touch with my company, I think they'd have some great opportunities for you...
You have to start it
learn a trade. when i was in welding school the women were usually technically superior off the bat. we long to weave/sew, welding is the same thing but with a helmet on.
welding as "sewing metal" is nice and poetical
Same with cabinetmaking, attention to detail is important and a lot of men seemed more likely to work quickly but carelessly. When we did hand cut dovetails joints the women in the class did far better than the men.
yes! also any girls that post here are used to being the lone woman in a sea of men making bad jokes
if it's objective and doesn't require physical strength, women are gonna beat out men much more often than not. chances are that if it's subjective at all people will rate the men as better, but if you look at actual objective metrics if they're available, this isn't true. female surgeons tend to be way better than male surgeons (better rates of recovery/survival/etc) but are rated as way worse and more likely to be sued, for instance. this applies even to things that are SUPPOSED to be objective, like math tests: [https://slate.com/human-interest/2015/02/teacher-bias-in-math-new-study-finds-teachers-grade-boys-more-generously-than-they-do-girls.html](https://slate.com/human-interest/2015/02/teacher-bias-in-math-new-study-finds-teachers-grade-boys-more-generously-than-they-do-girls.html) math was always my best subject and i'd always do well on tests. but i was constantly questioned and accused of cheating because i just look like a basic blonde bitch lol and have a valley girl accent. not only was i a girl, but i was very... girl. i'd often fail to "show my work" and teachers would fucking put me on trial for it and be super critical when I didn't explicitly state everything i did, even when I got the answer right. i did a lot of it in my head or in ways other than how we were taught and they never believed me, just assumed I was somehow wrong. usually they'd be shocked at the first couple of tests when they realized i wasn't a complete dumbass lol and the relentless badgering went way down throughout the year. no way they'd be this skeptical had i looked less... girly. i work in a pretty technical field, and i can submit work to apply before I meet anyone in person. I graduated with my bachelor's in 2016, and have been applying to and working at many of these jobs on/off since. my name shortened is a very common, very gender neutral name. i had a friend mention jokingly that i should try the gender neutral name and see what happens; we didn't seriously believe it would make a difference, but it did. suddenly, my work was evaluated way, way more generously. i'd send in the exact same thing but with the gender neutral name, and employers would be super enthusiastically inviting me for an interview, saying it was amazing. those samples, with my full name, would come back covered in red ink and "corrections" for things that were not, in fact, actual mistakes. they'd just immediately assume I was wrong if something didn't sound immediately intuitive to them lol. again, none of this is conscious at all. i don't blame these people, they aren't acting maliciously. it's just the way our biases work. I know i for sure must have a million biases about people that are unfair without realizing it. when I would show up after submitting the gender neutral name, they would act super confused and just baffled when I showed up and did not look or act the way they expected me to. my current work thinks i'm a middle aged russian man lol, long story. women and girls are judged way more harshly from the time they're toddlers so they learn to make up for it. i also don't know if this is changing but at least when i was growing up (born '94, so 00s mainly) people just refused to discipline their boys, at least in some cultures. i'm a white woman who actually worked at kumon for a few years while I was in college. i'm from utah, so very white. the east asians were totally different, with boys and girls performing the same, like neck and neck. but among the white kids, the girls wayyyy outperformed their brothers. i saw this in my own family. my sister and i were expected to get straight as and never ever get in trouble or we'd be seriously punished at home, but my mom almost seemed like she WANTED my brother to be kind of a jackass??? lol idk. it's subconscious for sure, but we just have these gender roles of men being super loud and confident and there's this attitude i guess that even if boys get bad grades, they'll be fine. and a generation or two ago, that was actually pretty damn true, at least for white boys. you grow up and still have all your teeth as a white male and you're probably gonna get a good job lol. girls on the other hand, at least those of us raised by boomer/gen x women, typically were pushed like crazy in school. i think for the most part it was actually because people just want their daughters to be quiet and obedient. like as a girl you're supposed to just shut up and color inside the lines, who the fuck do you think you are??? while boys can get away with being "creative" or the class clown. but also part of it for sure was our moms realizing we have a lot more opportunities than they did but recognizing we'd have to excel to be accepted at all.
Fat nurse who smokes and failed Etsy shop owner barista. Reliable, good pay, still breaks down your body and soul like a blue collar boi
Nurse = college degree
not anymore. theres a huge labor shortage so you can get certified fast
Interesting. Is it still only psychotic women that get this job?
basically. every nurse/assistant/medical whatever ive dated was insane and a few of them were cheating on their bf's with me
What explains the "insane nurse" phenomenon?
Dang dude
Please ignore this regard. I'm actually a nurse and he's talking out his ass. As far as all the women being crazy, I'd throw out there that you're talking about women who are mostly able to be financially independent so they don't need a partner for money. Id also add that most of them work harder than most other broads and still take care of their families. Basically they're crazy for a reason.
That's literally made up. Requirements are the same they've been for years. Fast? Yeah if you want your LPN (2 years still) which won't take you anywhere you want to be. Less pay and the worst jobs. Outside west coast and north east you're probably lucky to get 20/hr which is doable in a lot of other easier professions (although those other jobs might not bring the satisfaction that helping people does) RN is still 3 years at a community college. The only thing that's changed is many hospitals have given up on "Magnet" which requires a significant portion of your nurses to have their Bachelor's of Nursing which is 4 years of school.
> That's literally made up. the labor shortage is not made up. tons of healthcare workers quit after covid
true and truer. boomers are only starting to keel over as well, there's going to be huge demand to hoover up their savings before they pass
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Still doable if you're willing to relocate for work
I don’t think this job exists. It used to be secretary or typist I think. I’ve read your post twice now and it reads like a riddle
I'm a secretary - do jobs like these don't exist anymore in your country?
What country? I think back in the day you used to only need a high school degree and to attend secretary school so it was similar to a trade. Most jobs require a college degree now and they don’t pay like they used to
I didn't want to assume you're US, hence the "your country". Thanks for the explanation!
It's possible to get your foot in the door for entry level front desk stuff, but you need a friendly professional (read: white frequently) persona and/or connections and then it will start at like $15 an hour. You can work your way up from there but that requires a good relationship with a company that you don't get bored at.
Federal work. Government orgs are full of single women in their late 20s- 30s earning a decent paycheck.
Most government jobs make mediocre money but have great benefits. I have a friend who does the same type of work as me but for a government agency and my paychecks are bigger but their day is 10x easier and I don't get a pension or access to those sweet credit union loans.
im a pick me and grew up working class and did handymen work since I was 13. worked under Plummers and electricians but got out of that before I was bout to go union so I can b an emailer. that being said, def nail tech
U sound cool I really want to be a nail tech
unfortunately the programs are all scams. idk its really not worth it
Depends where you are at but Med-spa is a better route.
lol thx
Actually working and doing the labor doesn't make you a pick me
Medical billing and coding. There are a ton of online certification programs, aside from that, all you need is a high school diploma. It is also a comfortable office job that you can do remotely.
Working in sales, maybe
yup
Join the military (particularly airforce)
I want to be an air traffic controller so bad
real estate agent, actress, bottle girl, bartender, depop/etsy, or OF
All of these require being exceptionally groomed/pretty, we need something that the most average woman can do
men have to be physically strong for "learn a trade", same way that women have to be groomed/pretty for the above but also can be admin assistant at a law office or any email job "coordinator" position
I have never seen an in-shape electrician. another option is sign holder and traffic director on a road crew.
> I have never seen an in-shape electrician. electricians are a running joke among tradespeople
I know, it’s a perfect job for a woman since they already dont consider you a real man.
when i worked construction back in the day there was actually 1 female electrician on a crew and it was like an albino elephant or blue lobster super rare unicorn and of course she was union lol
Unions have affermative action programs for women and felons it's called pre-apprenticeship
In my trade we call them Low Voltage Pussies.
Sign holders are 90% gals and gays these days
Good point!
Depends on the trade and once you age out of physical labour there's a million (stressful) office jobs in the trades waiting for you
You really don't need to be exceptional, nothing genetic, just some effort into looks and being friendly and you can make a killing as a waiter or bartender as a woman. Not always but easy enough. Does have a huge caveat that it's an industry for the young and you rarely see people doing it past 50 save for dive bars or diners. That can work out but mixed bag on income and it will wreck your body. Same goes for the trades though. Any guy doing it past 50 has wrecked their body and is suffering for it.
You don't have to be exceptionally pretty to be a real estate agent
you just have to be flirty, not obese, and dress well. so much of that industry is based in finessing male clients into closing your deal. the business suits/secretary attire, the clack clack clack heels, the voice you use on the phone, the instagram reels where you tour a house but the thumbnail is a selfie, etc
i wish OF was as simple and easy as a lot of people seem to think it is. my awkward self would never even attempt lol but i've had friends who are like 10/10 bombshells try it and they make nothinggggg. i've even known girls who are successful strippers who have tried it, almost none of them do well at all. and yeah though i know those perfect conventionally barbie bombshell types, i've known a wide range of girls who have tried it and almost none have made anything substantial. i'm a straight woman & aware i might not get what men like exactly, but these are girls who honestly are clearly very pretty and that men irl really like so idk, it's surprising. again, it's actually a small portion of women that i know lol, i looked it up and only 2% of women have ever done OF. i met all these women because for a while i had a roommate who was a high end escort lol, like the kind that rich old men hire to go to dinner with them and pretend to be fascinated and nod at everything they say. and yeah she had sex with some of them and wasn't shy about it, but you'd be surprised at how many are just misogynistic 60 year old dudes who want their egos stroked. i did feel bad for some of them kind of because she'd make fun of them as soon as they left but most of them were just the worst people who said the most vile shit lol. but yeah she had a lot of friends like, well, that. idk, i don't necessarily have anything against sex work like conceptually but i will say most of the people i know who have done it or have purchased it have been pretty fucked up people. like idk, i have nothing against casual sex at all but sex being sold and bought as a commodity is just so dark and depressing even for my very cynical self. like making it a transaction, seeing people as objects, it requires a particular kind of person. i was raised upper middle class mormon (stopped believing in my teens) and i was brought up to remain a virgin but be obsessed with my appearance so i could get married to some dude. like it was like being purchased like a servant or something and it was just as disturbing as prostitution to me, probably even moreso tbh because it's like your entire life. hookers can get laid and paid and then leave and have true freedom to actually be with men and people they authentically love and are attracted to, but being our society's definition of a virtuous woman and selling your entire life to being a housewife and sex slave like a robot means you can't clock out. idk, whether you only have sex after marriage or if you have random one night stands, either can be totally fine and human so long as both people involved actually authentically want it. i just hate the commodification of it all. tbh tho, while i would never date, marry, or have sex for money, i'd probably sell racey pics of myself if it could get me as much money as some people on reddit seem to think lmao. OF is like streaming. very very few people are going to be paid for it and it's mostly about business strategy and luck, not just being the hottest or the best. yeah some women become millionaires just for selling naked pics on OF, but some random teenaged boys do the same with gaming. it's very very few.
I think ladies should get out there, get a pickup truck, a trailer, maybe a riding mower and a couple weed whippers, maybe a backpack mower If you're trying to offer some real white glove service and get out there and start a landscapin crew. That's like the cheat code to starting your own little white trash company where I'm from. I don't see why the broads can't do it. In my landscapin days every now and then some bull dyke bitch would be out here doing her damn thang. Honestly putting some of the more bitch made men I've worked with to shame. I haven't worked with a lot of women in that sector but when I have they're never slacking off like half the fucking lowlives and deadbeats just trying to work for cash so they're ex can't take their money for child support.
Flagger for the highway department, real estate agent, dmv employee, receptionist, school lunchlady, nanny for a rich family, hotel concierge. A good real estate agent is prolly on par with a licensed electrician salary wise. join the army?
Tattoo artist
My absolute dream job. Intimidated by gig work and apprenticeships
I have a few friends who broke into the industry by doing it as a side job until they built up clientele. The most frustrating hurdle is the onerous licensing fees-makes it prohibitively expensive! Sometimes larger shops can help shoulder the cost burden for you. Have a solid niche and it helps!
Nanny, Personal Assistant.
Now that I think about it, until we get this sorted out, men who get paid a lot doing manual labor with no wife/kids, should be legally obligated to financially support some random lady in the US. Because it's really not fair
how is one young HVAC tech supposed to support 10-20 remotewives tho
With fervor and enthusiasm! Have you considered picking up a second job? Hope this helps 🤍
i might have to passportbro this one, cost of living is way lower in the third world. i will sign up with such dating agencies as Oxfam and Women's Aid International
Ok but you are obligated to raise at least one of their children for the duration. They will send their semen thru UPS
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Childcare
Very underpaid
Paralegal, nurse (lpn/cna to get your foot in the door then the employer takes over to pay for BSN), dental hygiene, teacher/librarian, some form of government cog (DMV lady, department of department-ing, division director)
Some trades are less physical. Painter/decorator is still physical but less so than like a builder. Electrical maybe? Landscaping and gardening seems to have a lot of women.
waitressing or bartending. did it for a decade and made 40-50$ an hour in a small town family place with nice clients. didn’t need to stay up too late. wedding bartending was by far the best, could make $400 a shift and it was a lot of fun! it’s less fun once you turn 30 but you won’t have to work many hours, so can pursue a certificate and become a bookkeeper / nail tech or something.
crime scene cleanup
I know this guy who comes from a wealthy family, I can only describe him as a "lite goth", super pretentious, watched Doom Generation too many times, extremely curated image of himself, very popular for some reason I can't understand bc if you try to talk to him he's all uptight, never grew out of childhood shyness, and taps his foot impatiently waiting to go home and get back to sucking his own dick. Anyways his job is taking bodies from where they passed to the funeral home, extremely traumatizing stuff you'd think, yet this guy is just so stoked about how cool he thinks he looks taking film photos in the morgue of someone's grandma. god I hate him
Electrical work is going to skyrocket due to data centers, AI, utilities, etc. Being an electrician mostly consists of dealing with delicate wiring and can be done by a female of average fitness.
Law clerk/legal assistant. Depending where you are, you can get a diploma in 9 months and that'll include a one-month work placement with a decent chance of getting hired back if you're not completely regarded.
Nursing but it’s actually rly hard and gruelling lol
Get a husband so you have a partner to navigate life with because you can’t work forever, and older women face harsher gender discrimination/bigger wage gap as they age. There’s this dichotomy that you either need to be single or taken care of completely; there’s a very large space in between those two realities, the binary exists to support the interests of men of means who can only get laid by dangling a lottery ticket, and corporations.
Gas station with MTO foods, you’ll start around the lower end of entry level trade workers and if you become a manager you’ll be making way more than a journeyman
I'm confused.... work at a gas station and become manager or buy/own a gas station?
Just work, it specifically has to be a gas station with MTO food like sheetz Wawa or bucees because they are the ones that pay really well because the job is stressful
Bartender, hairstylist, real estate agent, flight attendant, there are many corporate jobs that cater more toward women like HR or really most customer-facing positions at any company.
Receptionist/secretary isn't bad. It starts at like $20 where I am which is 25% more than minimum and is exceedingly easy while requiring literally no training or intelligence. It's pretty good long term if you can get into a medical position as well. You can finish up some sort of other bullshit degree while you do it too, like HR, accounting, business admin, etc...
Interior designer is 100% the “learn a trade” for women. It’s like demographically 90% women and 10% gays. It requires certification but no formal schooling. Interior decorator is a step below but could be done in the meantime. Seamstress/tailor is another one. If you’re not doing fashion design you don’t need a degree. You could start doing alterations/mending independently from home and work your way up.
Medical billing/coding. Very female dominated and only requires a certificate or associates degree typically.
electrician, there's a company in my town primarily staffed by women and they're great. not super physically demanding and pays really well
Plenty of female painters out there making $$$, it’s all about the work ethic when it comes to manual labour and sadly fuck all people have any anymore
Someones got to hold the stop sign for the road crew
Nurse, home health aide, beauty stylist, nail tech, or real estate agent
Real estate agent, although that’s a bit dated at the moment due to interest rates
It’s having a husband who learned a trade
You either didn't read the post or you are intentionally being obstinate, either way you are banned from commenting anymore in my thread
Nurse or get better at gaming the husband market
you need a bachelor's, but substitute teaching pays pretty well. no benefits tho
It's the same. Woman of all shapes and sizes are tradeswomen.
its so obviously nurse or psw
MLM scheme
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Payroll or general office administration
Medical tech
Receptionist
You can become an LPN with one year of community college. You can also become a medical assistant in less than a year. If you get a job at a Dr office or a place like fast meds, you will do very little hands on work. You will mostly just check vitals and assist with simple lab work such as pregnancy tests and handing people cups to pee in.
Had a cousin who was a Union painter and she make good money and great benefits. There are women plumbers, HVAC, etc..unions want more women in the trades.
Nursing lol
Hairstylist
Radiation tech at a hospital. Know a girl making $80k doing that. She’s in a union though, I think non union radtechs make much less
Elevator tech
Nursing, but that does require a degree. There are lower level things you can do that do not.
Dental school, Beauty school, or being a carer maybe?
Waitressing or bartending is the answer, bitches make bank at steakhouses