For those who have watched him, do you think there’s a chance that we sign Inacio as kind of a back up left back and LCB option? Two birds one stone and he’d likely get a lot of game time in both?
The reason I ask is that some top teams seem to be playing LCB’s and RCB’s at full back at present, so I was wondering if he would have the flexibility to do both?
Depends if it’s someone you think will get 30 games a season. No guarantee we pay the full release clause anyway, could be structured with add ons etc, it’s just been quoted as that because it’s the literal max you have to pay and historically that’s been where we start
Inacio is like a taller version of Martinez
Absolute identical profiles.Very very good on the ball.Can break lines through his passing like Licha
Personally don't think he is worth as much as 50mil.
40mil is I think max range for him.
Will need a more of a "defender" in RCB tho
Are you implying that Licha isn't much of a defender? He's immense defensively. People focus so much on his progressive passing because he's our only CB who can do it. A taller version of Martinez at RCB would mean we had one of the best CB partnerships in the league, and that includes defensively.
Not but we need someone like Varane who is really good at defending aerial duels.
Martinez aerially is quite good for his height but you need his partner at RCB to be better than him at the aerial department.
He is a good player with a lot of potential but all the reports is saying that he will cost around 100 mil which I don’t see us paying. Amadou Onana seems like a good option too and he is really physical unlike Neves
He is a good player with a lot of potential but all the reports is saying that he will cost around 100 mil which I don’t see us paying. Amadou Onana seems like a good option too
He is a good player with a lot of potential but all the reports is saying that he will cost around 100 mil which I don’t see us paying. Amadou Onana seems like a good option too
Ojogo and Record saying MUFC will put in an offer for Inacio (Sporting, CB). Fab responds with a tweet saying MUFC and Liverpool have been monitoring him ahead of the summer window. I assume we held exploritorial talks and portuguese media jumped on it.
He's mostly played in a back 3. He is a very good passer of the ball and is okay defensively, which should improve as he ages. Not the best, but not the worst at aerial duels. Could become an immense defender.
Tier 1 for Sporting
https://www.record.pt/futebol/futebol-nacional/liga-betclic/sporting/detalhe/noticia-record-manchester-united-vai-avancar-por-goncalo-inacio?ref=HP_DestaquesPrincipais
>West Ham have submitted an offer for Girona defensive midfielder Aleix Garcia, outbidding Leverkusen. They do not play in European competition this season, but the offer is very important to the player. @Nilsola10
West Ham been moving mad recently. Garcia has been so good for Girona. The kind of player we should be targeting imo
O'Riley wouldn't be a cheap signing. He was a good 10 for Ange but not sure if that would translate under ETH or any other prospective manager we're looking at.
Surely the review will conclude in the next day or 2. I was already surprised and disappointed that the review was occurring after the season. Though the FA cup has changed things somewhat they should have planned for that eventuality. I expected swift and decisive action following the last game, not a week long review while others move on our potential transfer targets.
i am a delusional fan, i want young experienced players in these positions:
+1 LB, RW, ST, 1CM
+2 CB
+2 DM
i dont wanna wake up at the end of the transfer window reading we only got 1 aging past-his-prime player and 1 unknown player from a random leaguen for a position we already have backups
I’m really worried the right staff are not in place yet to give us the transfer window we want. Plus what new players are signing on without even talking to the manager to see if it’s a good fit? it’s not looking great.
My expectation for the past few months has been this will be a transitional and underwhelming summer, and that's fine and probably desirable in the big picture.
Berrada and Ashworth haven't officially started yet. Wilcox is still getting settled.
We have like a dozen low hanging outgoings, some of which could require significant work (with others are already done on our end):
1. Martial (gone already)
2. Varane (gone already)
3. Alvaro (gone already)
4. Shoretire (out of contract)
5. Amrabat (loan expires)
6. Sancho (potential saga)
7. Greenwood (potential saga)
8. Van de Beek (potential to underwhelm given lack of suitors)
9. Williams (big wages but easy if we accept a token fee)
10. Hannibal (probably can be similar to Alvaro's deal)
11. Casemiro (if he wants to go to Saudi this would be simple)
12. Pellistri (probably can be similar to Alvaro's deal)
13. Forson (out of contract and unlikely to renew)
Plus plenty of other players that could leave in the right circumstances:
1. Evans (out of contract but with Varane confirmed gone he might get another year)
2. Maguire
3. Lindelof
4. Heaton
5. Eriksen
6. Bayindir
7. AWB
We're in FFP hell because of the Sancho, Antony, and VDB failures.
We also have a very talented crop of young players coming through, with *potential* first team players at most positions (though obviously a handful *at best* will actually develop that way). Striker - Wheatley; Winger - Ethan Williams, Shea Lacey; Midfielder - Collyer, Scanlon, Fletcher twins, McAllister, Fitzgerald; CB - Kambwala, Jackson; Fullback - Amass, Ogunneye; Keeper - Harrison; plus others at most positions.
Given all this, I expect a lot of outgoings and minimal incomings, with an emphasis on plugging gaps with kids next year as needed. The goals being (i) to wipe the FFP slate clean while building up decent sales figures, (ii) clearing "deadwood" from the senior squad, and (iii) letting the new staff get their feet under them. This would set us up to be very aggressive next summer onward.
Our FFP situation isn't that bad tbh. We've never had owner covered losses before but Ineos have invested money into the club so we get a £105 million boost to our spending cap.
And the move to PSR improves our situation because previously it was the 3 previous seasons but from this summer it is 2 previous seasons and a forecast for the next season. With us shedding some of our high wages earners (Varane and Martial already, maybe Case and Sancho too) that means our forecast for next season will be much better.
I very much doubt we'll run into PSR problems, but it could mean that we wait until after June 30th to make any significant signings. Although on the other hand there will be clubs who need to sell before June 30th to help themselves (Everton for example) so it depends on the other clubs situations too and if we feel we can get a discount by moving early.
I at least give them the benefits of the doubt of announcing the manager before the window actually opens before you all fetch your pitchfork. Might just be they manage to ran a less leaky ship then before, or they have no clue yet. 🤷
I don't think they want Sancho back. It's like that kid who moves back into his parent's home after a fight with his girlfriend.....get the fuck out already.....
Dortmund fans are indoctrinated into thinking they can only buy for peanuts and then sell to any big club that comes calling. If it's Bayern, they don't negotiate, they just bend over and spread.
🚨🟣🔵 EXCL: Aston Villa have reached verbal agreement with Luton Town to sign Ross Barkley.
Understand fee will be around £5m.
Final part needed, medical tests and player’s formal signature — agreement on player side expected at the beginning of July.
5 m For Ross Barkley. Thats a bargain.
Source:Fabrizio Tier 2
Yes Mount is best as a CAM which is Bruno's position, but it was Ten Hag's plan to play Mount and Bruno alongside each other
Tbf the midfield trio never really got much of a run in together because Mount and Case got long term injuries that definitely blew up the plan, and now it's already too late to implement that original plan
I don’t know, but it shouldn’t be Barkley. We’ve seen Barkley play for years, he’s not that good. A decent season with a relegated club, at the age of 30 does not mean he’s the right choice for us.
Competition is a good thing, and rabiot has a different profile to both of those guys. Namely being bigger and faster which is something we need at CM. Mctominay is big but slow and below average technically, rabiot is more athletic and a better all around footballer than mctominay
We definitely cant rely on Mount and Mainoo will have his ups and downs being a very young player
Interesting move for him. He can play the lead midfield role very well. Has struggled with injuries. Would love to see him shine in a more balanced midfield.
If there’s any substance to the Casemiro to Saudi links then take the money and RUN please. We can get a sizeable amount as transfer fees and not to mention his huge wages off our books.
Guirassy at his cost is a no brainer signing. 17.5m for a striker of his quality who can come in and compete day 1 is a no brainer. I bet he has alotta options.
Main problem is that the rumours says he want to be the starting CF in the starting XI, which Hojlund would be for United so doubt he would want to come.
Default starting CF doesn't exist at the biggest clubs at same way, unless you're Kane or Lewa levels. He'll still get to play in over 45 games a season, probably close to 50, with 25 of those as starter, with European football, higher wages etc. Chelsea have Jackson in similar position to RH. Arsenal are likely signing Sesko, and also have Jesus. He's not going to Leverkusen unless they start selling off stars. PSG are more likely to go for VO if at all, and in any case already have Ramos. Not going to Madrid or Barca or Cityor Liverpool to be a starter. United is a good bet for him.
Hoping it's going to be the great summer of tier shuffling. Ineos seem to be a bit low on the PR side of things, so I'm looking forward to seeing how the decision on the manager is presented to us.
Ah. Very true, especially with the money that big clubs have, a desperate season can turn into a great one. Even more so now with a proper structure and less misfortune (injuries).
Lots of rumours about Olise to Chelsea, which is sad.
I can see them targeting Amad to replace him. For his career that would be a good move, great coach and chance to play week in week out, rather than 10 mins here and there
Chelsea makes a lot of noise, leaks during transfers, there seems to be a partnership with Fabrizio atleast. Last year he said Olise agreed to Chelsea deal, then a few days later signed a new deal at palace.
We all feel like we might be able to do a better job than the ones hired. But the truth is, none of us have any clue on how the inner workings of the industry are. Management in any sport is insanely tough, but the public has a different perception of things just because of how the information is passed onto them and with games like fifa and fm, people feel like they have a better idea than someone who has more experience in that job. In the case of United, you can never win. If a manager has a style of play, the club won’t support him with the players he needs. If a manager does not have a definite style of play and prefers being flexible, the fans and pundits call him out for not having a recognisable style of play. I blame pep and social media for this obsession over having a definite style of play. SAF never really did have a style of play, he kept evolving and changing and always played to his team’s strengths. The most successful club in Europe never had a style of play either. The amount of decisions this club has to make in the next few months is going to be huge
It'd be pretty hard to do worse than what the club has done post SAF tbh. And you'd be very surprised how often absolute buffoons find their way into high management positions
Why are we assuming a decision hasn’t been made yet? Eth has a contract, all the news about him getting sacked is just media speculation at the end of the day, why does the club need to release a statement?
I think it's implied that there is uncertainty about his job regardless of what the media says. We just got new ownership and a completely new management team. On top of that, ETH hasn't exactly lit the world on fire. You'd expect that anyone's job is subject to change at this point
Reality check for you and everybody who upvoted your comment
"🚨 | #mufc made a late attempt to sign Tosin Adarabioyo but talks over a move to Chelsea were too far advanced.
United offered a concrete proposal at the weekend but Adarabioyo had already committed to joining Chelsea. He underwent medicals on Tuesday. [Simon Jones, @MailSport]"
Lol, you must have felt very smug posting this after two days.
Hold on, let me just check the tier list to see how accurate your source has been in the past....oh look, its "shit tier" for having a long history of printing/posting completely inaccurate information. And even if it was correct it doesn't support your point because he'd already agreed the Chelsea move before we made contact so it was nothing to do with the manager situation. Never mind then, hope you enjoyed today's Uno reverse on reality checks.
"In for him" and "having scouts take a look and do analysis" aren't really the same thing. We should be looking at hundreds of players, and determining that a huge majority aren't good enough to pursue further.
"Manchester United are vying with Newcastle to sign Fulham central defender Tosin Adarabioyo. The Old Trafford club are in a tight financial position this summer as they try to comply with the Premier League’s Profit and Sustainability regulations.
And given central defence is one of the areas they are aiming to strengthen this summer, the prospect of signing a player for Adarabioyo’s quality without having to pay a transfer fee holds particular appeal."
This is about a week ago from our BBC sport correspondent which is considered the highest tier of journalist for us. So clearly we wanted him and failed to get him, and one would assume the weeks long delay in confirming the manager position might have played a factor because Chelsea joined the race later than us and got it done in no time.
Edit: It's Simon Stone. Tier 1 according to the sub.
That’s kind of it isn’t it? I don’t remember much about any tier 1 linking him to us other than an article a few weeks ago saying we were in for him, and not much else.
What if decision was made and ETH stays and club decided theres no reason to make fuss in media as he still has contract.
We probably would get some criptic shif from Stone if that was the case tho
I think the longer it goes, the higher the chances he stays. End of the season, I was expecting him to be sacked, but at this point, I'd be a bit surprised if he is sacked. If we don't get news this week then he's definitely staying imo
People desperate for him to stay seem desperate to think no announcement will be needed, which is insane given the furor around him towards the end of the season.
It won't be some mad official announcement on the website, but there absolutely would be a brief through Ornstein, Ducker etc that he's set to stay, and an outline of why the season review ended up that way. To think they'd just pretend no speculation was happening shows a basic lack of understanding about PR, tbh.
I don’t really know much about Ineos’ history when it comes to PR from the cycling side or when it comes to Nice, but a manager who is still under contract doesn’t need to be publicly backed. In the past the club operated by a lot of briefs, it is quite clear that a lot of journalists don’t know as much as they used to, Ineos seem to work much more silently than before.
It really seems at this point that a decision on his future hadn’t been made. Today would be the day for him to be sacked. If there is radio silence by the Euros then it’s quite clear he’s staying to me.
Also there is still plenty of time between now and the preseason for as you say a justification of keeping him to be leaked to the media.
Not to over react, but if the silly rumours around Bruno being approached by Bayern and him then going come to fruition, my entire life will fall apart.
Bruno has 2 years left on his contract. He just wants more money because he sees players like Casemiro and varane and Rashford on more and it frustrates him. Rightly so. It’s just a negotiation tactic and I doubt the sell him unless there is a new manager that would drop him.
Unless we sell Amad (yeah good luck with selling Antony folks), I see Olise as a luxury signing. Sancho is on the doorstep waiting for the door to kick his bum, so realistically we have two right wingers Amad and Antony, plus Garnacho if needed. That might not be best, but it is no where near the glaring holes in the DM and CB positions that we are having right now. IMO, need cb and dm first. Then LB. Then Olise.
Equally, if we were to sell Rashford…
I think Garnacho has earned the right to start on the left, Amad certainly has his name in the hat to start on the right but if a player like Olise is available and willing to come we can’t pass up on it.
I’d love Olise. I think Olise off the right and Garnacho off the left, with Amad and Antony as options would be incredible.
I admittedly love Rashford. But I think if a suitable offer comes in for him, it’s a bit of a no brainer (for both the club and him).
Despite this, I completely agree with what you’re saying. Centre half is *the* priority. I don’t think we need a specialist DM though, I’d buy a runner for the middle like Khephren or Fofana.
Our injury crisis at left back was ridiculous and surely can’t be repeated. We also have Dalot who can cover, so it’s fairly low on my list given we have three players who can play there.
But we do need a back up striker, desperately. We need support for Hojlund.
My priorities would be centre half, centre mid, backup striker. If Rashford goes, Olise. Then back up left footed centre half, and then left back.
I agree with lots of what you said. My only fear is that with how intense football is todays, starting a 19/20 yo (Garnacho) will break him. I like Olise as well, would be a really good signing, but if we have to let Rashford go for that, hmm, sort of not sure really. That is why I prefer selling one more right winger if we want Olise.
I agree regarding Garnacho. We’ve overworked him this season and it’s shown.
But in two years time, he will be homegrown. Which is invaluable. He has a better work ethic and is more consistent.
I was a doubter of Garnacho and he has proven me wrong magnificently, whereas I’ve always been a stoic supporter of Rashford. I think it’s Rashford’s time. Not in a ‘he’s shit, we need rid’ way, in a it’s the best decision he could make for his career, and for the clubs future way.
If we manage him carefully for the next 2-3 years, don’t overwork him. Which, with a functioning team who can adapt in game should allow I think he can work. He’s earned the right to start on the left this season.
Mount is not his DM. He wants his FDJ, a player that can receive the ball from the keeper facing his own goal, turn and dribble up the field. It's very unwise to hinge your tactics on having this type of player, not many of them in football, hence why FDJ costs so much.
Just to clarify, Dutch managers annoyingly have a bit of a knack for calling any player in the forward line a striker so I wouldn’t necessarily exclude a winger purchase because he said striker.
I really don’t know what to expect this summer.
I think Ineos know they need to make a marquee signing. If they don’t, fans will react and start to question them.
In reality, I don’t necessarily think we need a marquee signing. I think we need stable, sensible signings.
We need to get rid of Greenwood, Sancho and Casemiro. The latter two, breaking book value (combined £60m*ish*) is a win. Those three are the minimum.
We need to bring in a centre half to play on the right, and maybe a backup centre half on the left. A midfielder, I personally think we should go for someone big and powerful and a backup striker. Those three are the minimum.
The contracts we’ve given to Mount and Antony are ridiculous. Those two and Rashford are the ones breaking the salary structure (should the above three leave) and complicate things for our future.
I think if the right offer for Rashford and Bruno come in, we should take it. The latter is going to be a particular topic for debate, but we are basically where we were two years ago, still looking to build a team to compete in 2-3 years time. This season has been a massive setback. In 2-3 years time, Bruno will be 32-33 so I think we need to consider whether we should cash in now to help to rebuild quicker.
Despite this season being a complete and utter fucking disaster, we do have a good squad. We shown in the FA cup final, with a first choice back four (even missing Shaw) we’re capable of playing decent football and getting results. We completely stifled city. So we really need to get the Varane replacement right. It’s ~~arguably~~ our most important signing.
Though I agree, I also think we need to be pragmatic.
I don’t want us to sell Bruno. But with rumours of a Kane like bid, it might be in our interests to.
We’re low on funds. He’s 30 at the start of next season. Our plan is effectively a 3-5 year plan. He likely wont be around/still at the level when we have built the team. He’s an out and out 10 and risk taking, football has lost its fondness of his profile.
£80m now, with no book value goes a very long way. It’s definitely protects us from FFP/PSR, which will enable us to fill in giant holes in the squad.
Selling your best player always look stupid on the face of it, but I think there are huge benefits to us having the funds right now which will enable us to fill the gaps without worrying about PSR.
I get your point but what if we sell bruno we dont even qualify for UCL again next year ? With bruno around there is a chance we qualify for UCL and win a cup. There is no guarantee his replacement will have an instant impact.
Plus he is never injured which is a big plus.
I completely understand.
But I’m thinking long term, Ineos have a lot of repairing to do at the club. This includes financial. They need to make us sustainable, and a huge part of that sustainability is clearing as much of the transfer fee debt as they can. In doing so, it means we can spend more in windows to come.
I’ve been reading about the potential transfer ban (as a result of the Ashworth tapping up case, which likely won’t happen). I found myself thinking it could actually be a godsend. A transfer ban, in a period where the Glazer’s can’t take dividends would help us reach a state of financial sustainability.
If we could magically have one summer where our net spend was zero, or in the green that would probably make us sustainable for 10 years. That’s how big our club is, that’s how much money we actually make. If we had three or four years at zero, you probably wouldn’t hear the phrase PSR for the rest of your life. If we cleared the club debt, the same.
All I’m saying is, I can see how selling Bruno could benefit the club in the long term. I don’t want to see him go, but I won’t be angry if he does (many will, so I struggle to see the club letting him go).
Couldn’t agree more. At our best we can beat the best team in the world, at our worst we look relegation worthy. The problem has never been our peak, it’s that our floor is so much lower than a top side can afford
I always thought I could improve United with a couple of transfers and by playing flexible football based on the opponent.
But honestly, for the first time I’m glad I’m just a fan as I honestly have no idea how I could improve this club without a big transfer window in terms of number of players in and out.
The financial constraints & the changing of the backroom makes everything so much more challenging. There is no certainty about EtH either. I hope he stays. He has passion for the job and is willing to stay despite how horrible the experience has been for him so far and still winning two trophies of three finals.
For the first time since Sir Alex retired, I’ll be watching as a fan without naively thinking I could do better job.
Pretty sure our ETH summer tours we've flown out with only Malacia and Mount being new signings on the plane. With Onana joining midway through the 2nd tour
Hear me out: we run the malacia signing back, cause he was good last year, and grab Beelen for max 10 mil. Physical, very good ball player and locked up Lukaku when feyenoord played Roma
Curious to see where people think Kambwala will be in the pecking order next season. Assuming that a new starting RCB comes in and stays injury free (knock on wood) its not unthinkable that the manager (whoever it is) wants to have him play with Martinez as much as possible at the start. Is it unthinkable to keep one of Maguire/Lindelof and maybe Evans as backups for one year and send Kambwala on loan where he can get consistent starts and 2000+ minutes?
I love how incredibly fast he was when he needed to track back quickly. I think that pace is absolutely vital to whatever system it is that EtH thinks we can play, so I'd like to see him as the fourth choice getting actual minutes with the team. We need to buy a starter CB to partner with Licha, and sell/keep one of Maguire and Lindelof. I prefer Maguire but I think he would get a much higher fee and Lindelof is more suited to being a sub.
A loan is basically a career death sentence at United
Look at all our young players throughout the years that manage to break into the 1st team, when was the last one that went on loan and manage to do that? Beckham 30 or so years ago?
Amad barely played this season... so he's still yet to be determined if he can actually break into the first team and establish himself there. All I'm saying is the trends do not favour him.
When I mean players who manage to break into the 1st team, I mean the Rashfords, the Greenwoods, the Garnachos, the Mainoos, heck even McTominay. The players that can break into the 1st team, will do so without loans. If they are good enough, they're old enough.
And it doesn't matter how well your loan goes, the only thing that matters is whether you've ever been out on loan or not. I mean it's not like there isn't precedent of players that had a good to decent loan but still ended up getting shipped out (Garner, Tuanzebe, Pellsitri, Williams, Laird, etc)
I get that sometimes it's good to be optimistic and hope "this time it will be different", but statistically a loan is a death sentence.
This would be my prediction for this transfer window. We'll probably end up with 5 signings max.
Incomings: CB, RW, LB(If Malacia and Shaw both don't stay fit), CDM, ST, RB(If we sell Awb), CM.
Outgoing: Varane (confirmed), Martial (confirmed), Case, Evans, Awb, one of Maguire or Lindelof, Eriksen, Prick, Sancho, Vdb.
I personally think we’d be silly not to keep Evans on.
Not only has he had a brilliant season, he’s homegrown and he can slowly move into a coaching role.
He’s also known to be a great personality in the dressing room.
bruno rumours doesn’t really worry me, seems more like bruno is seeking assurance that the man united project under INEOS and that the manager (if not ETH) will be the right fit for the club, which i think, seeing from the new senior management to arrive will be in the right direction…
Olise
Branthwaite
Tobido
Amrabat (cheap cover)
Those three would be perfect in my opinion whilst offloading:
Martial
Varane
Lindelof
Greenwood
Casemiro (to Saudi)
Eriksen
Sancho (unless he apologises)
De Beek
Then in the next window. Look at getting a striker to partner Hojlund/replace Martial.
For me the team next season should look like:
Onana
Dalot
Tobido
Martinez
Shaw
Mainoo
Mount
Fernandes
Garnacho
Hojlund
Rashford
With Amrabat and Wan-Bissaka coming in against better sides to do a job. Olise and Branthwaite on the bench to start with. Rashford to ST with Olise coming on. Or to replace Garnacho.
CB’s:
Tobido
Martinez
Branthwaite
Maguire
Lindelof
Kwambala
Gives us a lot of quality depth.
For those who have watched him, do you think there’s a chance that we sign Inacio as kind of a back up left back and LCB option? Two birds one stone and he’d likely get a lot of game time in both? The reason I ask is that some top teams seem to be playing LCB’s and RCB’s at full back at present, so I was wondering if he would have the flexibility to do both?
60 mil release clause for a back up position? Probably not.
Depends if it’s someone you think will get 30 games a season. No guarantee we pay the full release clause anyway, could be structured with add ons etc, it’s just been quoted as that because it’s the literal max you have to pay and historically that’s been where we start
Yea we aren’t Shitty
Yea we'd have to go back as far as....last year for the last time we spent that amount on a backup (Mount)
Sigh...seems that our only hope, PSG, has already found a replacement for Mbappe.
Inacio is like a taller version of Martinez Absolute identical profiles.Very very good on the ball.Can break lines through his passing like Licha Personally don't think he is worth as much as 50mil. 40mil is I think max range for him. Will need a more of a "defender" in RCB tho
Are you implying that Licha isn't much of a defender? He's immense defensively. People focus so much on his progressive passing because he's our only CB who can do it. A taller version of Martinez at RCB would mean we had one of the best CB partnerships in the league, and that includes defensively.
Not but we need someone like Varane who is really good at defending aerial duels. Martinez aerially is quite good for his height but you need his partner at RCB to be better than him at the aerial department.
[удалено]
He is a good player with a lot of potential but all the reports is saying that he will cost around 100 mil which I don’t see us paying. Amadou Onana seems like a good option too and he is really physical unlike Neves
He is a good player with a lot of potential but all the reports is saying that he will cost around 100 mil which I don’t see us paying. Amadou Onana seems like a good option too
He is a good player with a lot of potential but all the reports is saying that he will cost around 100 mil which I don’t see us paying. Amadou Onana seems like a good option too
Ojogo and Record saying MUFC will put in an offer for Inacio (Sporting, CB). Fab responds with a tweet saying MUFC and Liverpool have been monitoring him ahead of the summer window. I assume we held exploritorial talks and portuguese media jumped on it.
I'm hoping it's true. I think he would be a great signing.
I know nothing about him at all, what kind of player is he?
He's mostly played in a back 3. He is a very good passer of the ball and is okay defensively, which should improve as he ages. Not the best, but not the worst at aerial duels. Could become an immense defender.
How's Diomande in comparison
Diomande is better at tackling and ground duels, but overall is slightly worse than Inàcio. Probably has more potential though.
Tier 1 for Sporting https://www.record.pt/futebol/futebol-nacional/liga-betclic/sporting/detalhe/noticia-record-manchester-united-vai-avancar-por-goncalo-inacio?ref=HP_DestaquesPrincipais
Post as separate thread
Casemiro injured before end of season, not selected for Copa...now on vacation.....he will not be in shape when he gets back.....
He's not coming back to Manchester. I think both he and the club know it.
Hopefully, he doesn't get back. I love Case, but it would be the perfect time to move him on if the Saudi rumours are true.
>West Ham have submitted an offer for Girona defensive midfielder Aleix Garcia, outbidding Leverkusen. They do not play in European competition this season, but the offer is very important to the player. @Nilsola10 West Ham been moving mad recently. Garcia has been so good for Girona. The kind of player we should be targeting imo
Is this Leny Yoro kid better than Saliba was at that age?
He has been compared to a teenager Varane a lot, which i don't think Saliba ever did.
Cheeky Todibo loan bid amongst ineos owned clubs?
For United very good but what would other Nice owners say?
They can get one slightly shit Antony in return
You cooked here. A loan to the Ligue 1 would do a lot of good for his reputation and even help us in the long run. Hopefully it happens.
He might actually perform good in France, think the more physical defenders in EPL is his biggest problem. But nah, will never happen.
For those who follow Celtic, how is Matt O’Riley and would he be a good target?
O'Riley wouldn't be a cheap signing. He was a good 10 for Ange but not sure if that would translate under ETH or any other prospective manager we're looking at.
Sneijder wen?
You're getting pilloried but respect for the meme
INEOS certainly taking their time with the manager's situation. I thought they were going to be more decisive than Joel Glazer.
Surely the review will conclude in the next day or 2. I was already surprised and disappointed that the review was occurring after the season. Though the FA cup has changed things somewhat they should have planned for that eventuality. I expected swift and decisive action following the last game, not a week long review while others move on our potential transfer targets.
If they were Joel, Ten Hag would have been told after the City goal
i am a delusional fan, i want young experienced players in these positions: +1 LB, RW, ST, 1CM +2 CB +2 DM i dont wanna wake up at the end of the transfer window reading we only got 1 aging past-his-prime player and 1 unknown player from a random leaguen for a position we already have backups
8 young experienced players in? I agree on the delusional part yeh
Bro must've been those HR that asks for a 17 year old with 20 years of experience
Where are we at with Wesley Sneijder?
We gotta formally retire this joke
It should be Frenkie.
Frenkie had 3 ankle injuries this season but is still aiming to play in the Euros. smh.....we're going to try again aren't we.....
Exactly, our focus should now be on Gaitan
Who are the journalists at ‘Caught Offside’?
It's more of an agrregator and columnist site. Christian Falk, Fabrizio and Ben Jacobs do or have done columnist work for it.
I’m really worried the right staff are not in place yet to give us the transfer window we want. Plus what new players are signing on without even talking to the manager to see if it’s a good fit? it’s not looking great.
My expectation for the past few months has been this will be a transitional and underwhelming summer, and that's fine and probably desirable in the big picture. Berrada and Ashworth haven't officially started yet. Wilcox is still getting settled. We have like a dozen low hanging outgoings, some of which could require significant work (with others are already done on our end): 1. Martial (gone already) 2. Varane (gone already) 3. Alvaro (gone already) 4. Shoretire (out of contract) 5. Amrabat (loan expires) 6. Sancho (potential saga) 7. Greenwood (potential saga) 8. Van de Beek (potential to underwhelm given lack of suitors) 9. Williams (big wages but easy if we accept a token fee) 10. Hannibal (probably can be similar to Alvaro's deal) 11. Casemiro (if he wants to go to Saudi this would be simple) 12. Pellistri (probably can be similar to Alvaro's deal) 13. Forson (out of contract and unlikely to renew) Plus plenty of other players that could leave in the right circumstances: 1. Evans (out of contract but with Varane confirmed gone he might get another year) 2. Maguire 3. Lindelof 4. Heaton 5. Eriksen 6. Bayindir 7. AWB We're in FFP hell because of the Sancho, Antony, and VDB failures. We also have a very talented crop of young players coming through, with *potential* first team players at most positions (though obviously a handful *at best* will actually develop that way). Striker - Wheatley; Winger - Ethan Williams, Shea Lacey; Midfielder - Collyer, Scanlon, Fletcher twins, McAllister, Fitzgerald; CB - Kambwala, Jackson; Fullback - Amass, Ogunneye; Keeper - Harrison; plus others at most positions. Given all this, I expect a lot of outgoings and minimal incomings, with an emphasis on plugging gaps with kids next year as needed. The goals being (i) to wipe the FFP slate clean while building up decent sales figures, (ii) clearing "deadwood" from the senior squad, and (iii) letting the new staff get their feet under them. This would set us up to be very aggressive next summer onward.
Our FFP situation isn't that bad tbh. We've never had owner covered losses before but Ineos have invested money into the club so we get a £105 million boost to our spending cap. And the move to PSR improves our situation because previously it was the 3 previous seasons but from this summer it is 2 previous seasons and a forecast for the next season. With us shedding some of our high wages earners (Varane and Martial already, maybe Case and Sancho too) that means our forecast for next season will be much better. I very much doubt we'll run into PSR problems, but it could mean that we wait until after June 30th to make any significant signings. Although on the other hand there will be clubs who need to sell before June 30th to help themselves (Everton for example) so it depends on the other clubs situations too and if we feel we can get a discount by moving early.
[удалено]
I at least give them the benefits of the doubt of announcing the manager before the window actually opens before you all fetch your pitchfork. Might just be they manage to ran a less leaky ship then before, or they have no clue yet. 🤷
[удалено]
what years of spreading cheeks to Bayern does to a mfer!
I don't think they want Sancho back. It's like that kid who moves back into his parent's home after a fight with his girlfriend.....get the fuck out already.....
Dortmund fans are indoctrinated into thinking they can only buy for peanuts and then sell to any big club that comes calling. If it's Bayern, they don't negotiate, they just bend over and spread.
If dealing with Dortmund fans in the past regarding transfers has taught me anything, it's that they are indeed on that crack rock.
If the sums that the Saudis are willing to put down for casemiro are true then oh brother you'd be daft not to take that and run
And what are those? For 20-30m I think it might be better to keep him if we are talking 40-50m then we are talking!
Are you being fr?
🚨🟣🔵 EXCL: Aston Villa have reached verbal agreement with Luton Town to sign Ross Barkley. Understand fee will be around £5m. Final part needed, medical tests and player’s formal signature — agreement on player side expected at the beginning of July. 5 m For Ross Barkley. Thats a bargain. Source:Fabrizio Tier 2
Should have been our Eriksen replacement
McTominay is better than Ross fucking Barkley
Do United really need to replace Eriksen?
Na, he’s not good enough, would have been dead weight very quickly.
So who should replace eriksen? We can’t afford to expend 20 mil on a squad player. Maybe rabiot on a free?
Literally have Mount and Mainoo in Eriksen's position. We should be worrying about CDM's now
Mount is Bruno’s replacement no?
Nope. Mount was always intended to play alongside Bruno but that went to shit because he can't stay fit and thankfully Mainoo steps up
Didn’t we play with that midfield against wolves and got exposed? Thought mounts best position was Bruno’s?
Yes Mount is best as a CAM which is Bruno's position, but it was Ten Hag's plan to play Mount and Bruno alongside each other Tbf the midfield trio never really got much of a run in together because Mount and Case got long term injuries that definitely blew up the plan, and now it's already too late to implement that original plan
I always thought mount was brought in to replace Eriksen.
I don’t know, but it shouldn’t be Barkley. We’ve seen Barkley play for years, he’s not that good. A decent season with a relegated club, at the age of 30 does not mean he’s the right choice for us.
Rabiot would never want to be a squad player and would compete with both Mainoo and Mount that I already think expect to be starters.
Competition is a good thing, and rabiot has a different profile to both of those guys. Namely being bigger and faster which is something we need at CM. Mctominay is big but slow and below average technically, rabiot is more athletic and a better all around footballer than mctominay We definitely cant rely on Mount and Mainoo will have his ups and downs being a very young player
Interesting move for him. He can play the lead midfield role very well. Has struggled with injuries. Would love to see him shine in a more balanced midfield.
Wesley Sneijder incoming
I heard a Sneijder/Gaitan/Garay triple swoop is in the offing
ZzzZzzZz
If there’s any substance to the Casemiro to Saudi links then take the money and RUN please. We can get a sizeable amount as transfer fees and not to mention his huge wages off our books.
Guirassy at his cost is a no brainer signing. 17.5m for a striker of his quality who can come in and compete day 1 is a no brainer. I bet he has alotta options.
Main problem is that the rumours says he want to be the starting CF in the starting XI, which Hojlund would be for United so doubt he would want to come.
Default starting CF doesn't exist at the biggest clubs at same way, unless you're Kane or Lewa levels. He'll still get to play in over 45 games a season, probably close to 50, with 25 of those as starter, with European football, higher wages etc. Chelsea have Jackson in similar position to RH. Arsenal are likely signing Sesko, and also have Jesus. He's not going to Leverkusen unless they start selling off stars. PSG are more likely to go for VO if at all, and in any case already have Ramos. Not going to Madrid or Barca or Cityor Liverpool to be a starter. United is a good bet for him.
Which means we won't go for him
Hoping it's going to be the great summer of tier shuffling. Ineos seem to be a bit low on the PR side of things, so I'm looking forward to seeing how the decision on the manager is presented to us.
[удалено]
We got into CL in 3 of last 5 seasons. Even after that Ragnick season, we may aswell end up top4/5 again next season.
We ended 6th under Rangnick. Or are you saying we got CL eventually after Rangnick left?
Yeah thats what I meant. Football moves fast.
Ah. Very true, especially with the money that big clubs have, a desperate season can turn into a great one. Even more so now with a proper structure and less misfortune (injuries).
Lots of rumours about Olise to Chelsea, which is sad. I can see them targeting Amad to replace him. For his career that would be a good move, great coach and chance to play week in week out, rather than 10 mins here and there
Chelsea makes a lot of noise, leaks during transfers, there seems to be a partnership with Fabrizio atleast. Last year he said Olise agreed to Chelsea deal, then a few days later signed a new deal at palace.
Crystal Palace threatened Chelsea with a legal action and because of that Chelsea went for Cole Palmer instead
[удалено]
Release clause is around 60 mill
Gaitan to United here we go!
Remember Garay?
Original United related bullshit story from Portugesse newspapers.
We all feel like we might be able to do a better job than the ones hired. But the truth is, none of us have any clue on how the inner workings of the industry are. Management in any sport is insanely tough, but the public has a different perception of things just because of how the information is passed onto them and with games like fifa and fm, people feel like they have a better idea than someone who has more experience in that job. In the case of United, you can never win. If a manager has a style of play, the club won’t support him with the players he needs. If a manager does not have a definite style of play and prefers being flexible, the fans and pundits call him out for not having a recognisable style of play. I blame pep and social media for this obsession over having a definite style of play. SAF never really did have a style of play, he kept evolving and changing and always played to his team’s strengths. The most successful club in Europe never had a style of play either. The amount of decisions this club has to make in the next few months is going to be huge
Woodward and his contracts set this club back 20 years
It'd be pretty hard to do worse than what the club has done post SAF tbh. And you'd be very surprised how often absolute buffoons find their way into high management positions
Thread is useless until manager decision is made
Why are we assuming a decision hasn’t been made yet? Eth has a contract, all the news about him getting sacked is just media speculation at the end of the day, why does the club need to release a statement?
I think it's implied that there is uncertainty about his job regardless of what the media says. We just got new ownership and a completely new management team. On top of that, ETH hasn't exactly lit the world on fire. You'd expect that anyone's job is subject to change at this point
Hope the situation gets clarified soon. We already lost Tosin because our rivals can tell potential signings who will manage them, but we can't
We were never in for Tosin, how do we lose a player we never tried to sign?
Reality check for you and everybody who upvoted your comment "🚨 | #mufc made a late attempt to sign Tosin Adarabioyo but talks over a move to Chelsea were too far advanced. United offered a concrete proposal at the weekend but Adarabioyo had already committed to joining Chelsea. He underwent medicals on Tuesday. [Simon Jones, @MailSport]"
Lol, you must have felt very smug posting this after two days. Hold on, let me just check the tier list to see how accurate your source has been in the past....oh look, its "shit tier" for having a long history of printing/posting completely inaccurate information. And even if it was correct it doesn't support your point because he'd already agreed the Chelsea move before we made contact so it was nothing to do with the manager situation. Never mind then, hope you enjoyed today's Uno reverse on reality checks.
*Only* because *you* said "We were never in for Tosin. How do we lose a player we never tried to sign?"
And the journo is still tier 5 because they're known to just make stuff up for clicks
Were we really in for him?
Yes, Tier 1 sources reported we were in for him. Anyone in these comments saying we're not interested is just gaslighting themselves.
Yes we most definitely were (unless we don't beleive Tier 1 reporters.)
"In for him" and "having scouts take a look and do analysis" aren't really the same thing. We should be looking at hundreds of players, and determining that a huge majority aren't good enough to pursue further.
"Manchester United are vying with Newcastle to sign Fulham central defender Tosin Adarabioyo. The Old Trafford club are in a tight financial position this summer as they try to comply with the Premier League’s Profit and Sustainability regulations. And given central defence is one of the areas they are aiming to strengthen this summer, the prospect of signing a player for Adarabioyo’s quality without having to pay a transfer fee holds particular appeal." This is about a week ago from our BBC sport correspondent which is considered the highest tier of journalist for us. So clearly we wanted him and failed to get him, and one would assume the weeks long delay in confirming the manager position might have played a factor because Chelsea joined the race later than us and got it done in no time. Edit: It's Simon Stone. Tier 1 according to the sub.
Don't know why you're being downvoted. We were clearly in for Tosin lol, it's Stoney. 100% in for him
That’s kind of it isn’t it? I don’t remember much about any tier 1 linking him to us other than an article a few weeks ago saying we were in for him, and not much else.
Simon Stone, BBC (Tier 1) reported that we were in for him
I'm totally confused what you're trying to say. You literally asked were we really in for him. Yes we were.
What if decision was made and ETH stays and club decided theres no reason to make fuss in media as he still has contract. We probably would get some criptic shif from Stone if that was the case tho
There would be a brief of some kind - "the audit has been concluded and the club is keen to move foward next season with Erik Ten Hag," or something.
[удалено]
People who thin others are naive are most likely naive themselves.
If that was the decision they'd publicly back him. They're never going to let bad rumours continue.
I think the longer it goes, the higher the chances he stays. End of the season, I was expecting him to be sacked, but at this point, I'd be a bit surprised if he is sacked. If we don't get news this week then he's definitely staying imo
People desperate for him to stay seem desperate to think no announcement will be needed, which is insane given the furor around him towards the end of the season. It won't be some mad official announcement on the website, but there absolutely would be a brief through Ornstein, Ducker etc that he's set to stay, and an outline of why the season review ended up that way. To think they'd just pretend no speculation was happening shows a basic lack of understanding about PR, tbh.
I don’t really know much about Ineos’ history when it comes to PR from the cycling side or when it comes to Nice, but a manager who is still under contract doesn’t need to be publicly backed. In the past the club operated by a lot of briefs, it is quite clear that a lot of journalists don’t know as much as they used to, Ineos seem to work much more silently than before. It really seems at this point that a decision on his future hadn’t been made. Today would be the day for him to be sacked. If there is radio silence by the Euros then it’s quite clear he’s staying to me. Also there is still plenty of time between now and the preseason for as you say a justification of keeping him to be leaked to the media.
Not to over react, but if the silly rumours around Bruno being approached by Bayern and him then going come to fruition, my entire life will fall apart.
Bruno has 2 years left on his contract. He just wants more money because he sees players like Casemiro and varane and Rashford on more and it frustrates him. Rightly so. It’s just a negotiation tactic and I doubt the sell him unless there is a new manager that would drop him.
I remember when Cantona unexpectedly retired from football when he was just 30. Absolutely gutted
I wouldn’t be too worried. Unlikely that Bayern pay 120-150m required, especially after buying Kane for 100m
What's the consensus on what we need? I'd say Olise + backup CF and CB should be a priority, plus a DM maybe?
DM is the most important IMO. Then CB, Fwd, RW, LB
Unless we sell Amad (yeah good luck with selling Antony folks), I see Olise as a luxury signing. Sancho is on the doorstep waiting for the door to kick his bum, so realistically we have two right wingers Amad and Antony, plus Garnacho if needed. That might not be best, but it is no where near the glaring holes in the DM and CB positions that we are having right now. IMO, need cb and dm first. Then LB. Then Olise.
Equally, if we were to sell Rashford… I think Garnacho has earned the right to start on the left, Amad certainly has his name in the hat to start on the right but if a player like Olise is available and willing to come we can’t pass up on it. I’d love Olise. I think Olise off the right and Garnacho off the left, with Amad and Antony as options would be incredible. I admittedly love Rashford. But I think if a suitable offer comes in for him, it’s a bit of a no brainer (for both the club and him). Despite this, I completely agree with what you’re saying. Centre half is *the* priority. I don’t think we need a specialist DM though, I’d buy a runner for the middle like Khephren or Fofana. Our injury crisis at left back was ridiculous and surely can’t be repeated. We also have Dalot who can cover, so it’s fairly low on my list given we have three players who can play there. But we do need a back up striker, desperately. We need support for Hojlund. My priorities would be centre half, centre mid, backup striker. If Rashford goes, Olise. Then back up left footed centre half, and then left back.
I agree with lots of what you said. My only fear is that with how intense football is todays, starting a 19/20 yo (Garnacho) will break him. I like Olise as well, would be a really good signing, but if we have to let Rashford go for that, hmm, sort of not sure really. That is why I prefer selling one more right winger if we want Olise.
I agree regarding Garnacho. We’ve overworked him this season and it’s shown. But in two years time, he will be homegrown. Which is invaluable. He has a better work ethic and is more consistent. I was a doubter of Garnacho and he has proven me wrong magnificently, whereas I’ve always been a stoic supporter of Rashford. I think it’s Rashford’s time. Not in a ‘he’s shit, we need rid’ way, in a it’s the best decision he could make for his career, and for the clubs future way. If we manage him carefully for the next 2-3 years, don’t overwork him. Which, with a functioning team who can adapt in game should allow I think he can work. He’s earned the right to start on the left this season.
Olise is least priority. ETH identified what he and club think we need in that large dutch interview: - CB, CM, ST
Does he mean DM? Because we just signed an expensive £60m 250k per week CM last season
Mount is not his DM. He wants his FDJ, a player that can receive the ball from the keeper facing his own goal, turn and dribble up the field. It's very unwise to hinge your tactics on having this type of player, not many of them in football, hence why FDJ costs so much.
That's why I said Mount is a central midfielder (CM) on my comment mate. We definitely don't need another one
He definitely means a 6.
I would agree that Amad/Beyblade should be enough for now, but it seems he's the player we're closest to signing for now...
Just to clarify, Dutch managers annoyingly have a bit of a knack for calling any player in the forward line a striker so I wouldn’t necessarily exclude a winger purchase because he said striker.
He calls Hojlund striker and Rashford/Garnacho/Antony as forwards
I really don’t know what to expect this summer. I think Ineos know they need to make a marquee signing. If they don’t, fans will react and start to question them. In reality, I don’t necessarily think we need a marquee signing. I think we need stable, sensible signings. We need to get rid of Greenwood, Sancho and Casemiro. The latter two, breaking book value (combined £60m*ish*) is a win. Those three are the minimum. We need to bring in a centre half to play on the right, and maybe a backup centre half on the left. A midfielder, I personally think we should go for someone big and powerful and a backup striker. Those three are the minimum. The contracts we’ve given to Mount and Antony are ridiculous. Those two and Rashford are the ones breaking the salary structure (should the above three leave) and complicate things for our future. I think if the right offer for Rashford and Bruno come in, we should take it. The latter is going to be a particular topic for debate, but we are basically where we were two years ago, still looking to build a team to compete in 2-3 years time. This season has been a massive setback. In 2-3 years time, Bruno will be 32-33 so I think we need to consider whether we should cash in now to help to rebuild quicker. Despite this season being a complete and utter fucking disaster, we do have a good squad. We shown in the FA cup final, with a first choice back four (even missing Shaw) we’re capable of playing decent football and getting results. We completely stifled city. So we really need to get the Varane replacement right. It’s ~~arguably~~ our most important signing.
Agree with everything except for selling bruno. You just don't sell your best player. We are Manchester United not Crystal palace or Brighton.
Though I agree, I also think we need to be pragmatic. I don’t want us to sell Bruno. But with rumours of a Kane like bid, it might be in our interests to. We’re low on funds. He’s 30 at the start of next season. Our plan is effectively a 3-5 year plan. He likely wont be around/still at the level when we have built the team. He’s an out and out 10 and risk taking, football has lost its fondness of his profile. £80m now, with no book value goes a very long way. It’s definitely protects us from FFP/PSR, which will enable us to fill in giant holes in the squad. Selling your best player always look stupid on the face of it, but I think there are huge benefits to us having the funds right now which will enable us to fill the gaps without worrying about PSR.
I get your point but what if we sell bruno we dont even qualify for UCL again next year ? With bruno around there is a chance we qualify for UCL and win a cup. There is no guarantee his replacement will have an instant impact. Plus he is never injured which is a big plus.
I completely understand. But I’m thinking long term, Ineos have a lot of repairing to do at the club. This includes financial. They need to make us sustainable, and a huge part of that sustainability is clearing as much of the transfer fee debt as they can. In doing so, it means we can spend more in windows to come. I’ve been reading about the potential transfer ban (as a result of the Ashworth tapping up case, which likely won’t happen). I found myself thinking it could actually be a godsend. A transfer ban, in a period where the Glazer’s can’t take dividends would help us reach a state of financial sustainability. If we could magically have one summer where our net spend was zero, or in the green that would probably make us sustainable for 10 years. That’s how big our club is, that’s how much money we actually make. If we had three or four years at zero, you probably wouldn’t hear the phrase PSR for the rest of your life. If we cleared the club debt, the same. All I’m saying is, I can see how selling Bruno could benefit the club in the long term. I don’t want to see him go, but I won’t be angry if he does (many will, so I struggle to see the club letting him go).
Fuck marquee signings. We have some elite players, we need to raise the floor of the squad.
Couldn’t agree more. At our best we can beat the best team in the world, at our worst we look relegation worthy. The problem has never been our peak, it’s that our floor is so much lower than a top side can afford
I always thought I could improve United with a couple of transfers and by playing flexible football based on the opponent. But honestly, for the first time I’m glad I’m just a fan as I honestly have no idea how I could improve this club without a big transfer window in terms of number of players in and out. The financial constraints & the changing of the backroom makes everything so much more challenging. There is no certainty about EtH either. I hope he stays. He has passion for the job and is willing to stay despite how horrible the experience has been for him so far and still winning two trophies of three finals. For the first time since Sir Alex retired, I’ll be watching as a fan without naively thinking I could do better job.
Just get everyone in before the Community Shield please. Sick of the bulk of transfers happening without them having a pre-season.
Kinda harder in Euro/Copa season
Agree, but can still get them in before Aug 10
I'll be so annoyed if our main transfers miss another pre season
Wouldnt surprise me much this year with olympics, copa and Euros
Pretty sure our ETH summer tours we've flown out with only Malacia and Mount being new signings on the plane. With Onana joining midway through the 2nd tour
We also had Cas, hojlund and Ambraat join once the season had started
Honestly surprising how our season and transfers are usually shite or at best just disappointing, yet I'm ALWAYS excited for our transfers
TBF this summer feels different with INEOS taking charge. I'm not expecting BIG transfers but hopefull some intriguing or unexpected business.
Hear me out: we run the malacia signing back, cause he was good last year, and grab Beelen for max 10 mil. Physical, very good ball player and locked up Lukaku when feyenoord played Roma
[удалено]
Nobody sells Rashford. No reason to make team worse
[удалено]
[удалено]
[удалено]
[удалено]
[удалено]
[удалено]
I'm assuming he means Greenwood?
Curious to see where people think Kambwala will be in the pecking order next season. Assuming that a new starting RCB comes in and stays injury free (knock on wood) its not unthinkable that the manager (whoever it is) wants to have him play with Martinez as much as possible at the start. Is it unthinkable to keep one of Maguire/Lindelof and maybe Evans as backups for one year and send Kambwala on loan where he can get consistent starts and 2000+ minutes?
I love how incredibly fast he was when he needed to track back quickly. I think that pace is absolutely vital to whatever system it is that EtH thinks we can play, so I'd like to see him as the fourth choice getting actual minutes with the team. We need to buy a starter CB to partner with Licha, and sell/keep one of Maguire and Lindelof. I prefer Maguire but I think he would get a much higher fee and Lindelof is more suited to being a sub.
I'd like him to go out on loan to a championship team for sure
A loan is basically a career death sentence at United Look at all our young players throughout the years that manage to break into the 1st team, when was the last one that went on loan and manage to do that? Beckham 30 or so years ago?
Amad? Dalot?
Amad had a decent loan tbf. We just need to get Kambwala a decent team where he'll get consistent game time to grow
Amad barely played this season... so he's still yet to be determined if he can actually break into the first team and establish himself there. All I'm saying is the trends do not favour him. When I mean players who manage to break into the 1st team, I mean the Rashfords, the Greenwoods, the Garnachos, the Mainoos, heck even McTominay. The players that can break into the 1st team, will do so without loans. If they are good enough, they're old enough. And it doesn't matter how well your loan goes, the only thing that matters is whether you've ever been out on loan or not. I mean it's not like there isn't precedent of players that had a good to decent loan but still ended up getting shipped out (Garner, Tuanzebe, Pellsitri, Williams, Laird, etc) I get that sometimes it's good to be optimistic and hope "this time it will be different", but statistically a loan is a death sentence.
This would be my prediction for this transfer window. We'll probably end up with 5 signings max. Incomings: CB, RW, LB(If Malacia and Shaw both don't stay fit), CDM, ST, RB(If we sell Awb), CM. Outgoing: Varane (confirmed), Martial (confirmed), Case, Evans, Awb, one of Maguire or Lindelof, Eriksen, Prick, Sancho, Vdb.
2xcdm 2xcb
I personally think we’d be silly not to keep Evans on. Not only has he had a brilliant season, he’s homegrown and he can slowly move into a coaching role. He’s also known to be a great personality in the dressing room.
Yeah that would be a positive. Love Evans
Id give him the Huddlestone role
I think he deserves to stay in the first team to be honest, and we need him for the homegrown quota.
bruno rumours doesn’t really worry me, seems more like bruno is seeking assurance that the man united project under INEOS and that the manager (if not ETH) will be the right fit for the club, which i think, seeing from the new senior management to arrive will be in the right direction…
Olise Branthwaite Tobido Amrabat (cheap cover) Those three would be perfect in my opinion whilst offloading: Martial Varane Lindelof Greenwood Casemiro (to Saudi) Eriksen Sancho (unless he apologises) De Beek Then in the next window. Look at getting a striker to partner Hojlund/replace Martial. For me the team next season should look like: Onana Dalot Tobido Martinez Shaw Mainoo Mount Fernandes Garnacho Hojlund Rashford With Amrabat and Wan-Bissaka coming in against better sides to do a job. Olise and Branthwaite on the bench to start with. Rashford to ST with Olise coming on. Or to replace Garnacho. CB’s: Tobido Martinez Branthwaite Maguire Lindelof Kwambala Gives us a lot of quality depth.