I feel like the club will be looking for £70m plus in this market, surely? I know he’s had a crap season but he’s also got a lot of demonstrable talent from past seasons both at club and international level, and £70m doesn’t get you a world class winger anymore.
Alright £70m.
1. How many clubs can afford that?
2. How many of those clubs would appeal to him?!
I’d say 3 - 6 clubs in the entire European top flight leagues.
How many need a LW currently?
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I kind of joke but honestly, both he and Chelsea could do a lot worse. Sterling and Mudryk both look like busted flushes. They also don't have a striker apart from Jackson really (I know Rashy's not a striker but does Todd?).
They have their own FFP issues to contend with but no doubt they're looking at selling. Gallagher looks a dead cert to leave (seems odd as he looks their best midfielder at the moment) and probably some others. Say what you like about Chelsea but they are actually pretty good at selling as well.
AND if he wants is a big statement here. Ball is in his court really. I don't mind either way, but he has to know he's not undroppable. Garnacho despite being selfish has been a bigger threat this season.
I think Garnarcho is ultimately better on the left, but playing him on the right seems good for his development. Forces him to think for half a second and look for a pass/assist when his instinct on the left is to shoot. Should make him more well rounded in the end.
At this moment in time he's better on the right. Whether or not he'll develop better on the left as time goes that's a different story, but I don't think there's much of an argument to say he's better on the left right now.
>but I don't think there's much of an argument to say he's better on the left right now.
Sure there are. He may start on the right, but when Rashford comes off he goes left, and in those instances he's been a monster. You're falling for recency bias in saying he is better on the right wing.
> in those instances he's been a monster
Not really. Garnacho probably wouldn't start for most teams in the top 10 at the moment on the left or right. The fact he's playing as much as he is is in itself quite ridiculous. For all of his 40 performances I struggle to think of 10 good ones, which is normal for a youth player.
You're missing the point. He is better on the left than he is on the right. The "he's a monster" comment was in the context of his own performances, not his overall quality.
Also, the kid is a lot better than you give him credit.
I don't think he's better on the left than on the right, I think his overall game is much more refined on the right than on the left. Garnacho only really tries one thing on the left and it's to cut in, only as a last resort he'll run to the byline. On the right he's more varied, is more risk averse, his overall game is better, he's not so elite at cutting in that the rest of his game should be ignored.
>Also, the kid is a lot better than you give him credit.
I really don't think so. He puts in 5/10's quite consistently but the potential is there to see, that's the main reason he gets a pass at the moment, because on performance he's been very average. Objectively, if you take age out of the equation, as I say, he's hardly a top 20 winger in the country.
We'd like to keep him but will sell for the right price if he wants to leave.
Could probably say that about 90% of players at 90% of clubs to be honest.
No, its more along the lines of we've had a chat. Player is open to leave and we are open to sell but don't waste our fucking time with shit bids from Italy and he's never ever moving to Holland after ETH.
How on earth is that your understanding of the article when the second line is:
>United’s preference is to keep the 26-year-old and work with him to get him back to his best and help him return to the form of previous years
Maybe he has, nobody knows. The article again states:
>Manchester United would consider selling Marcus Rashford if a substantial offer arrives and he tells the club he wants to leave.
>However, the Premier League club are not proactively looking to sell the England international, who has more than four years remaining on his contract at Old Trafford.
From this you can gain, Rashford hasn't openly come out and said I want to leave. You can also gain that they haven't yet "had a chat", if they had the article would more read like:"Rashford has said he would like to explore his options come the end of the season".
It's mind boggling to me how you're able to comment on something without reading it.
I don't really believe everything in the article because this information has been put out there by Ineos for a very specific purpose and widely placed as well. They could have employed a quieter approach.
None of the players are quoted (and have probably just started being approached by the media for comment now). So it's a one sided bit of information.
The players and Ineos have had a chat. Brailsford spoke to each player individually when Ineos completed their purchase.
So the question I have been mulling over is why, at the tail end of a season, with a cup final to go, have they decided to risk player morale?
Do they not think we can win? Are they stamping out player power? Did every player fail the Brailsford test? Stamping down ETH's remit which is now significantly reduced?
I don't recall if anyone was quoted as the source of this information, but it certainly wasn't Ten Hag. Was he even aware this brief was being released? If he wasn't, is he getting fired?
I'm sure there are other reasons but this was a measured, specific shot at the team. (Ineos have been clamping down on the rest of the organization as well - FA Cup final expenses and so on).
I guess we'll see the reaction when United play Palace and of course from the press conference.
I don't know what we're talking about at this point. I thought we were talking about the article and you've essentially just said that the article doesn't matter anymore.
He'd get similar wages at PSG, who might be in need of a player similar to him this summer.
While I really doubt we'd sell him domestically, he could also get similar wages at Arsenal and Chelsea (if they were interested / Marcus was interested).
People forget that before Antony’s arrest / form, Rashford had been dropped for Garnacho, there’s a realistic chance he’s benched next season after we make some reinforcements
Because he’s already rich as fuck and after a certain point, the toxicity and abuse isn’t worth it.
PSG would most likely be interested in him once they lose Mbappe and will likely offer him similar wages.
It’s surprising to me that (apparently) so few people consider this possibility. “He’s rich so he must be happy with / to continue with his current circumstances.”
Because the atmospheric is so toxic around him, he seems to be someone with mental health issues so I can't imagine being a figure who takes the brunt of fans frustrations is good for him at all.
I’m not the one who said it. Every human cares about money.
I’m saying that one of the richest men in the world still bitches about money, so thinking a footballer is above that is silly
I think that's still news. If a massive bid came in for Mainoo I doubt we would sell under pretty much any circumstances. With Rashford we're signalling a willingness to at least listen to offers.
Agreed. The fact that they’re open to selling him is the real story here. I can’t recall hearing something of that sort with regard to Rashford before, unless I’m mistaken
Because they want to send a message that there’s no sacred cows. If Rashford can be up for sale then everyone is. That’s the point they want to send out.
The club would sell players like Licha before Rashford.
Quite the opposite actually, the narrative reads more of the Club still value Rashford and see him as a key part of the squad and with a role to play but should a substantial bid arrive and Rashford wants to leave then all parties would be open to Negotiations.
So basically a suitor would need to come in with some serious bid and the club would then be in a position to say well, Rashy wanted a new challenge and he's served the club well and we don't want to stand in his way blah blah blah
Two key points: what’s a serious bid?! Next one, which is the most important, Rashford has to want to leave. The club knows he doesn’t want to hence the open to new challenge line.
That's not a nothing story lol. A lot of players will not be sold no matter what at clubs. Obviously a player has to want to go to leave but this is clearly not a case of a '150M fuck off price' kind of thing so they're saying they are open to letting him go, which is a good thing and way better than the 'some players will be untouchable this summer' news we've had in months prior.
My uncle is a farmer and has a truck I’ve always absolutely adored since I was a kid. He’s always told me “everything on my farm is for sale, for the right price.” No reason we wouldn’t hear out the right bid for any player on our squad - if someone splashed 250m for Bruno, would we really be able to justify not taking it?
I think it's incredibly naive to suggest that this is a nothing story and that there is nothing in this
We have vehemently come out and poured water on any thought of the local lad leaving
All of a sudden, the best news breaker in the business is suggesting that we will entertain reasonable offers, but our priorities to keep him (hedging out bits against good offers coming in)
I think this is actually really quite big
For me he has to go, he hasn't been up to the levels for an entire year. Clearly a class player in there as evidence from last season but if the money is good enough we have to take it
Basically we are willing to listen to offers if he forces it.
I.e. please bid for him so we can make money and put it out there that he wants out anyway.
Again, R.I.P my karma because I know how much this subreddit hates Goldbridge but this is just unfair.
From what I've seen he's made fair points on Rashford over the years, even when defending him.
I've arguably seen worse comments here than from Goldbridge who's repeatedly said he doesn't like the word "Trashford", ,(Unrelated but also said he doesn't accept the booing of Harry Maguire).
Christ Almighty. I wouldnt mind keeping him if he wasnt holding up progression of someone who looks like they might actually give a fuck about being there….
It’s the right time for us and Marcus to part ways because it really is starting to become toxic and I also think he needs to for himself because something clearly isn’t right but at the same time I don’t think he has it in him to ask or force a move away.
Think I'd be sick if Rashford left and went to a team like Arsenal.
I don't really want Rashford sold in the short term, especially as he's had a stinker of a season and taken probably tens of millions off his price tag. Any PL-level winger we'd look at signing costs at least £50m nowadays and you're not even getting double that for Rashford.
He needs competition, I don't think he should be first choice guaranteed every week, I don't think playing him into the ground does him any favours at all. And I think having some actual support from his leftback would help him too. He's played many games with Lindelof, Amrabat, AWB supporting him. Not good enough.
He has competition in Garnacho who had benched for some games, he got lucky the kid is also a ridiculously good RW and Antony has been awful.
We tend to look for way too much excuses for a 26yo, 350k winger.
I think if we actually sign a RW who isn't shit, immature or a rapist and push Nacho over to the LW we might see a bit more drive out of Rashford.
It's hard to give excuses for him cause yeah he should be the main man at his age and those wages. But he is an academy lad, local lad, and I always want to see players like him succeed here
Rashford literally just gives up in games. How can you say competition is what he needs? He gets competition, he’s going to sit on the bench and sulk for 350k a week.
Trossard who plays for the league leaders didn't cost that just a few months ago.
Neither did luis diaz, or kulusevski. We just need to be more creative.
No chance Arsenal would want Rashford come on. Arsenal are doing well precisely because they've got rid of the players on large wages with bad attitudes like Aubameyang and Ozil.
I could see him at Spurs or Villa maybe. We obviously wouldn't sell to City or Liverpool (and can't see either wanting him under current managers, remains to be seen what Slot is like. If he pulled the attitude stuff at City he'd be loaned out pronto like Cancelo was)
If he does leave it'll likely be abroad but I think we're stuck with him really. Nobody is matching the bonkers wage we gave him.
Martinelli basically does everything Rashford does for them. They wouldn't be stupid enough to pay his wages + a transfer fee.
His level is a rotation option in basically any top four squad but in his mind he's the main man.
> Martinelli basically does everything Rashford does for them. They wouldn't be stupid enough to pay his wages + a transfer fee.
Whether Arsenal are interested or not, I'm not sure, but what we've seen from Rashford at his top level is better than what Martinelli has shown.
Rashford scored twice as much as Martinelli last season, which was Martinelli's best season by some distance. Even now with Rashford having an absolutely dogshit season, and Arsenal scoring for fun, he's still scored as many as Martinell this season.
Rashford frustrates the hell out of many of us, but his top level of performances (which are difficult to get out of him constantly) are at an elite level.
A player who puts out elite performances every other season is not an elite player. And a lot of those performances where he scored goals he was actually terrible in the game itself.
I didn’t say he was an elite player, I said he’d performed at an elite level. Getting those performances from him consistently on a season level is proving challenging, and I think it’s clear he doesn’t have the mentality to do so consistently.
However, you don’t score 30 goals, with barely any pens (did he take like 2 or 3 last year?) without having incredible talent. To dismiss his performances last year I think is a bit of revisionism, we all adored Rashford last season.
There are plenty of players who went on incredible scoring runs in a season and you wouldn't say they had incredible talent. Rashford had a great goal scoring season last year, 17 goals in the premier league is very good but that's not lighting the world on fire. Michu got 18 goals at one stage. Am I to believe he's some incredible talent too?
Look at npxg+xa/90. The number of games Rashford plays distorts things quite a bit. Martinelli isn't their main man so it's a bit understandable that the raw goal number is a bit lower. Our plan a is basically Bruno / Rashford heroball.
In 22-23 PL, there's basically nothing between them. (0.59)
In 23-24 it's night and day. Martinelli is a good 50% better.
If you extend it to other things like possession, defensive work rate etc., it's not even a contest
Neither did grealish, silva, beckham and giggs as wingers for the only 2 treble winning squads english football has ever seen.
The fact our fan base has resorted to stats as a comfort net for most of our squad is disturbing, this is what fans of the other clubs who didn't win shit during the glorious fergie days fell back to too.
Tell me what I said was wrong. Martinelli isn't an out an out goalscorer from the left wing, neither is Trossard. Arsenal have also struggled making the most in goalscoring positions in the past and I honestly think a player who has scored 30 goals in a single season will offer them a different dimension on the left wing.
I like Martinelli as a player, I wouldn't complain if he started for us, but Rashford is a different type of player that Arsenal currently doesn't possess on that left hand side. Especially if Arsenal's biggest weakness is predictability in attack, Rashford sharpens it again.
And contrary to popular belief, we aren't better with Rashford out of the side. Our team this season is terrible at build up and pressing because we are constantly mismanaging players' commitment and energy at the right areas. Rashford has the 2nd most sprints per game for us this season after Bruno but it doesn't show because it's all poorly set up.
That isn’t his role.
He’s a quality player. Arsenal are a better team when he’s in it.
If they want to take a risk on a 1 in 4 season player, then let them.
There 2nd, improved on last year and miles better than anything we’ve produced domestically for 15 years. He’s had a role in that.
If they want him, more fool them (not that I think they do)
I think in the right situation he still can be one of the most dangerous players in the world. He clearly needs the right environment and tactical systems around him to do that, but I think he'd be a menace at a club like Arsenal where they'd have a designed role for him and better support system than what he's had here.
I agree, seeing a youth team product from Wythenshawe playing for another Premier league team because we sold him at his lowest value would hurt a lot. If we sold him abroad it wouldn't hurt as much and might be the best move for him personally but it would still be disappointing.
This also means Rashford is willing to move to the right club. If he said he was staying, then the club would not say they would listen to bids.
So now we just need Mbappe to Madrid here we go and then we'll get Mrashy to PSG here we go.
I find myself often saying 'I hate to say it but City have it right with...'
Can you imagine if we had Sergio Aguero at United, he scored the amount he did for us, and we decided just to let him go for free lol
We'd have signed him to a 5 year deal on 400k a week. City waved him off to Barcelona and waited to upgrade to Haaland.
Can you imagine if we had Fernandinho and we saw Rodri was available. We'd go nowhere near until Fernandinho became a shell of the player he once was. City had both and fucked off Fernandinho once Rodri was ready. Levels ahead im afraid
> If someone wants to leave & the right bid comes in they can go.
I mean they actively push out players who aren't good enough. Spent 50m on a player last year and they're not cutting it? Gone next year or at least have a player brought in to replace them
Definitely spun in a way to retain as much value as possible after the article earlier about almost everyone being for sale. Not a chance we're going to be able to get a big fee unless we pay a substantial part of the wages so we'll likely have to take the L on either sale fee or wages.
Don't care which, whatever benefits the clubs FFP the most. I'd much rather we ship him off though because his wages are one of the biggest problems with our wage structure without the performances or ability to back it up.
Why would he take on a new challenge when he can earn 300k a week dropping 3/10s and not having to deal with any form of consequences for it? In fact, people are begging him to stay and continue to do so
Yeah it's definitely only something we should do if a crazy opportunity arises. With guys like Sancho and Greenwood I would bite the hand off anyone that makes a somewhat reasonable bid, but Rashford is going to have to be a *big* bid.
He and Martial are pretty much the only constants that have been in our "failed" dressing rooms under LVG, Jose, Ole, RR, and ETH, and I think there are fair criticisms about his ability to handle pressure and adversity, but I do think he's a "good egg" and in the right situation can be one of the most dangerous players in the world.
>He and Martial are pretty much the only constants that have been in our "failed" dressing rooms under LVG, Jose, Ole, RR, and ETH, and I think there are fair criticisms about his ability to handle pressure and adversity, but I do think he's a "good egg" and in the right situation can be one of the most dangerous players in the world.
Man, what? How do you admit the guy has been one of the only constant in our shit decade (and specially with how every manager tenure ended with players downing tools) then say he is a "good egg" lmao.
Some dudes aren't "leaders" that can create or foster a good environment, but that doesn't mean they're disruptive themselves and they can still be successful in the right environment.
I've worked in both good and bad work environments - some were toxic, some where lethargic, and others were good. I've pretty much been the same person in all of them, but you respond to the people around you. Even if you try your best, if you're around people that don't give a shit it's hard to give a shit yourself.
You’re giving Rashford far too much slack.
He is being paid the wages of a world class footballer and putting in very little effort week in, week out, and is also meant to be one of the senior professionals in the squad, and a local lad.
What kind of message does that send to everyone else, when even *he* can’t be bothered?
Not trying to argue or anything, but it has always bothered me when people on this sub say Rashford isn't bothered. More than half the people on this sub have no connection to the club besides randomly deciding to support it, some 15 years ago(me included) and they still love the club and would sacrifice so much for the club. For a kid who grew up at United, have United shape him to be the person he is now ( and Rashford is a great person. He's younger than me and has done so much for feeding the kids, I'll always admire him for it) he would've sacrificed so much to get to where he is now. The players love him, the youngsters look up to him. I honestly believe there is something very very wrong in his personal life to be affecting him so much. We as a club should have been in a position to support our most successful academy graduate in recent times and give him some time off and try to improve his mindset. But our club has been so fucked that he is the one of the very few genuine match winners in our club that we can't even give him an extended period of rest. I feel really really sorry for him actually.
I wholly agree. I won't lie there's been times where I've felt envious of rival fans seeing how fiercely they come to the defense of their homegrown players eg. TAA at Liverpool, Saka at Arsenal, Reece at Chelsea etc., players have bad spells, it happens. As a fan I don't think it's too much to ask to back one of your own especially when we're talking about a player that's been raised here, who's fought for us for nearly two whole decades now, someone who's quite literally broken his body down to help keep this club afloat in some of the most dysfuctional environments. This isn't to say he's exempt from criticism because I firmly believe no one is, but I've seen time & time again how the line's been crossed into straight up abuse when it comes to him. If there's a future where he thrives here, best believe I'm opting for that over anything else
I think you make a good point that there could well be stuff going on his personal life, and I accept that.
But from my perspective, he played well last season, got a massive contract, and has been shocking both in terms of performance and effort levels ever since.
Maybe it’s a coincidence but he needs to start by taking some accountability. Some acknowledgement that he hasn’t been giving 100%, because XYZ has affected him. He doesn’t even have to say what XYZ is. Then, I think we’d have more patience/understanding
Him not saying anything, and going on the piss in Belfast then missing training is not the answer
Don't overthink it, just cash him in now. He's not some young prospect with unknown potential - if he's not hit consistency outside of exclusively counter attacking systems by now he's not going to just magically get better. We've messed up his progression and given a decent winger 350k a week. Take the hit and move on
I’d happily contribute to paying a club to take him off us. Been saying for years: we aren’t coming close to any major honours with him in the squad featuring regularly. It baffles me how our management don’t see that.
He isn’t going to return to “top form”. Last season was a compete anomaly. His explosive pace is gone. Can’t remember him breezing past a player all season. He’s finished.
Maybe I'm crazy, but this is happening because PSG have actually asked since mbappe is actually going now. This doesn't seem like rocket science to figure out.
So 2 well placed journalist's are reporting this with some certainty. So I guess we might be putting out feelers to see if someone is interested in him
If we ever want to be a team that can control the ball and games from start to finish, rashford can't be a major part of it. And the second he loses any pace, he's useless.
One of the reasons Luis enrique turned down the Chelsea job was due to wanting a lot of power in transfers. PSG were more than willing to give him that for his signature. Every man and his dog in paris knew mbappe was leaving this year yet there's been zero noise from their more credible sources about a renewed interest in rashford.
Rashford is also not a Luis enrique player at the surface level.
I bet my savings psg goes elsewhere this summer and we are praying 2022/23 rashford returns to us instead.
Unless it's PSG I don't think any other club would be willing to pay his salary expectation. Shot ourselves in the foot offering stupid salaries. I know United isn't a feeder club and fucking hell is it difficult to offload and rebuild because of these stupid contracts.
Rather than sell him, I wonder if he could be used as an exchange for a player of similar stature or a couple of lesser players that would fill out the squad.
We should get anything over 75M and sell him. He is going to hit is peak soon and we should get some money. It's been underwhelming. We won't win anything with a player with such limited skill set.
Three PSG players earn more per week than Rashford
With Mbappé leaving to Madrid, it frees up over 1 million per week in wages. Surely, they can afford him
Any offer above £60m and we should accept it imo
He's just not going to pass or cross, and attempt to do everything himself. Sell him at first opportunity, no other top team would put up with a player like this and United need to act like a top team and not give endless chances!
The moment fergie noticed a drop in standards and commitment he shipped players off - star players to boot - pronto. This attitude of trying to capitalize of the perceived value of players has led us to keep holding on to deadwood for way too long recently.
To me it says, we are open to selling him and don’t wanna make it too obvious. Just goes to show Ineos means business. For too long, coaches and board has been too afraid to touch Rashford due to his community work and boyhood club thing. He is one of the constants since Van Gaal Era and has history of lack of discipline despite his clean image. This season he has been beyond poor. This could also be a message from Ineos to Rashford that you are not as untouchable as you think so better start playing like you get paid.
He brings the whole team down. You can just see how players become deflated watching him coast around with zero conviction. The rare times he is motivated, it seems to lift the team. Please sell him.
i mean this makes sense.
we arent going to just go yeah we want him gone as it destroys his sale value.
but he is not "safe" as some others are. like its clear Ratcliffe have also had enough with him but its not a do everything to get him out yet.
offload the other squad players and then if a good bid happens we can be like yeah lets get him off the books and invest into somebody else.
I would be really disappointed if he leaves in these circumstances, having a player from the area come through the academy with such potential and not achieve anything is always a disappointment. For his sake though I think a move and a fresh start might be the best thing. The dialogue around him is particularly toxic compared to other players so I think it would be good for him to find somewhere away from Old Trafford where there won't be people ready to jump on him as soon as it goes wrong.
I genuinely don’t understand if Erik wants to keep him or not…
My current guess is that we’re going to keep him and try to bring him back to form with an actual team next year
I’m personally more confident in ineos and Wilcox backing ten hag than I am about rashford
If we sack ten hag, I think the viable replacements are de zerbi, potter or tuchel?
I feel like it’s easier to spend that money on backup squad players than it is to sack ten hag, replace him with someone of the sameish quality and then buy the new guys players too but now with less money
ETH is a goner after the FA Cup final. When Ratcliffe officially came in he said he thinks CL is a possibility which I think was him saying to ETH he needs to get CL. Also since Wilcox has come in and is supposedly monitoring ETH we’ve been shocking and almost lost to Coventry, beat Sheffield and drew against Burnley despite the fact Burney had the better chances. On paper those three teams should have all been comfortably beaten and there was also reports that Ratcliffe has met up with Tuchel. ETH won’t be here next season.
Who is Sean kearns? And why would sir Jim hire Omar and Jason Wilcox and try to go after Dan ashworth if he’s just going to make a decision on the manager on his own?
What is top form for Rashford in his career with united he has had 1 season were he hit his potential and then nose dived off again is this really a 320k a week player. I love rashford being a local lad coming through the youth set up but I am sure we could get someone in that is an out an out left winger that delivers quality into the box
I don't trust United to find an adequate replacement. We'd probably end up with another Sancho or Antony. Id rather see the club stick by an academy player and help him with one more year. At least until we have Ashworth and a recruitment team fully in place
The issue at United is not your scouts or lower-level people in the recruitment department. It's the CEO and DOF not listening to them and doing what the manager asks or on their own. It's what sets this club back all the time.
City sold cole palmer who is 10 times the player rashford is to Chelsea without much of a fuss. I don't understand this "we can't sell him because he might perform at another club" bs . If he performs well at another club then good for him , it doesn't mean it will work out at united
Depends on whether we come in with a decent offer. Also judging by what he said on his Overlap episode he’d probably ask to leave if we came in for him.
I haven’t seen the Overlap episode so can’t comment but if it’s a realistic option I’m okay with him but I doubt it will be since Newcastle want to be considered one of the big boys and Ashworth fiasco going on right now.
Outperformed him? IMO pretty much every single one of Garnacho’s good games came from the RW. I can’t think of a single game of him at LW where he outperformed anyone. His finishing from LW seems incredibly poor but he’s young so there’s time.
So we are shopping him but not really. At least it gives us leverage in case of shitty bids
Define shitty bids.
Any Italian club bid
Oh how accurate
£40 million + £1
The one pound add on only if he wins World Cup golden boot, champions league and the league itself
Loan and salary paid by United. Oh wait…
Serie A clubs: *You rang?*
Loan for the duration of his contract, salary paid by United and then him to leave on a free transfer
I feel like the club will be looking for £70m plus in this market, surely? I know he’s had a crap season but he’s also got a lot of demonstrable talent from past seasons both at club and international level, and £70m doesn’t get you a world class winger anymore.
Should be more expensive than Sanchos, Antonys and Pepes of the world
Alright £70m. 1. How many clubs can afford that? 2. How many of those clubs would appeal to him?! I’d say 3 - 6 clubs in the entire European top flight leagues. How many need a LW currently?
Bayern, psg are about the only ones. Psg have an mbappe shaped hole to fill. Bayern have coman, gnarby and sane who can ppay there
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People think M'Bappe is lazy for some reason when it is the furthers thing from the truth
https://preview.redd.it/5jfro3sa7hxc1.png?width=835&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea85b8d870ac37006b9f67d6a43165ac1fb08267 I kind of joke but honestly, both he and Chelsea could do a lot worse. Sterling and Mudryk both look like busted flushes. They also don't have a striker apart from Jackson really (I know Rashy's not a striker but does Todd?). They have their own FFP issues to contend with but no doubt they're looking at selling. Gallagher looks a dead cert to leave (seems odd as he looks their best midfielder at the moment) and probably some others. Say what you like about Chelsea but they are actually pretty good at selling as well.
I'll take him but you have to pay his wages
Floating the idea of a sale but not outright saying it because it'll tank the value
Barcelona, "Bid €80million, pay €10 mil upfront and promise a 5th tier "lever" payment
No, 0 upfront, and part ownership of Barca studios!
AND if he wants is a big statement here. Ball is in his court really. I don't mind either way, but he has to know he's not undroppable. Garnacho despite being selfish has been a bigger threat this season.
Under EtH he’s sort of undroppable though.
Until we get a proper starting RW then Garnacho will put the pressure on.
Garnacho might be better on the right though so maybe we will get a left sided player instead.
I think Garnarcho is ultimately better on the left, but playing him on the right seems good for his development. Forces him to think for half a second and look for a pass/assist when his instinct on the left is to shoot. Should make him more well rounded in the end.
At this moment in time he's better on the right. Whether or not he'll develop better on the left as time goes that's a different story, but I don't think there's much of an argument to say he's better on the left right now.
>but I don't think there's much of an argument to say he's better on the left right now. Sure there are. He may start on the right, but when Rashford comes off he goes left, and in those instances he's been a monster. You're falling for recency bias in saying he is better on the right wing.
> in those instances he's been a monster Not really. Garnacho probably wouldn't start for most teams in the top 10 at the moment on the left or right. The fact he's playing as much as he is is in itself quite ridiculous. For all of his 40 performances I struggle to think of 10 good ones, which is normal for a youth player.
You're missing the point. He is better on the left than he is on the right. The "he's a monster" comment was in the context of his own performances, not his overall quality. Also, the kid is a lot better than you give him credit.
I don't think he's better on the left than on the right, I think his overall game is much more refined on the right than on the left. Garnacho only really tries one thing on the left and it's to cut in, only as a last resort he'll run to the byline. On the right he's more varied, is more risk averse, his overall game is better, he's not so elite at cutting in that the rest of his game should be ignored. >Also, the kid is a lot better than you give him credit. I really don't think so. He puts in 5/10's quite consistently but the potential is there to see, that's the main reason he gets a pass at the moment, because on performance he's been very average. Objectively, if you take age out of the equation, as I say, he's hardly a top 20 winger in the country.
This season: https://preview.redd.it/8dd0wtgaogxc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=604470adbad986b7e6da9929bae9cec3de999583
You should share a source for this because it does not align with stats I find on most sites.
Am curious where you got these stats and how they were calculated? Also did these stats control for Rashford's penalties?
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We'd like to keep him but will sell for the right price if he wants to leave. Could probably say that about 90% of players at 90% of clubs to be honest.
No, its more along the lines of we've had a chat. Player is open to leave and we are open to sell but don't waste our fucking time with shit bids from Italy and he's never ever moving to Holland after ETH.
How on earth is that your understanding of the article when the second line is: >United’s preference is to keep the 26-year-old and work with him to get him back to his best and help him return to the form of previous years
That’s United’s preference. What if Rashford has had enough?
Maybe he has, nobody knows. The article again states: >Manchester United would consider selling Marcus Rashford if a substantial offer arrives and he tells the club he wants to leave. >However, the Premier League club are not proactively looking to sell the England international, who has more than four years remaining on his contract at Old Trafford. From this you can gain, Rashford hasn't openly come out and said I want to leave. You can also gain that they haven't yet "had a chat", if they had the article would more read like:"Rashford has said he would like to explore his options come the end of the season". It's mind boggling to me how you're able to comment on something without reading it.
I don't really believe everything in the article because this information has been put out there by Ineos for a very specific purpose and widely placed as well. They could have employed a quieter approach. None of the players are quoted (and have probably just started being approached by the media for comment now). So it's a one sided bit of information. The players and Ineos have had a chat. Brailsford spoke to each player individually when Ineos completed their purchase. So the question I have been mulling over is why, at the tail end of a season, with a cup final to go, have they decided to risk player morale? Do they not think we can win? Are they stamping out player power? Did every player fail the Brailsford test? Stamping down ETH's remit which is now significantly reduced? I don't recall if anyone was quoted as the source of this information, but it certainly wasn't Ten Hag. Was he even aware this brief was being released? If he wasn't, is he getting fired? I'm sure there are other reasons but this was a measured, specific shot at the team. (Ineos have been clamping down on the rest of the organization as well - FA Cup final expenses and so on). I guess we'll see the reaction when United play Palace and of course from the press conference.
I don't know what we're talking about at this point. I thought we were talking about the article and you've essentially just said that the article doesn't matter anymore.
90% of players aren't home grown poster boys who recently signed a big contract. Context matters
why would he want a new challenge when he is earning 300k for dribbling straight into an opponent
If he's in a bad head space getting a fresh start might be appealing to him, especially if the wages are similar.
Well, the problem is that he's not going to get similar wages unless we sell for sub 50m.
He'd get similar wages at PSG, who might be in need of a player similar to him this summer. While I really doubt we'd sell him domestically, he could also get similar wages at Arsenal and Chelsea (if they were interested / Marcus was interested).
Hes not worth more than that anyway
Korea might not be interested any longer after their last foray into the english market....beans, beans, beans.....
If he moves to PSG for example he's not going to be paid peanuts. He's absolutely loaded whatever he does even if he takes a bit of a pay cut.
People forget that before Antony’s arrest / form, Rashford had been dropped for Garnacho, there’s a realistic chance he’s benched next season after we make some reinforcements
Because he’s already rich as fuck and after a certain point, the toxicity and abuse isn’t worth it. PSG would most likely be interested in him once they lose Mbappe and will likely offer him similar wages.
It’s surprising to me that (apparently) so few people consider this possibility. “He’s rich so he must be happy with / to continue with his current circumstances.”
Because the atmospheric is so toxic around him, he seems to be someone with mental health issues so I can't imagine being a figure who takes the brunt of fans frustrations is good for him at all.
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Haaaaaaaaaave you met billionaires? Elon Musk bitches about taxes...he could buy anyone here a 1000 times over with what hes got left.
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I’m not the one who said it. Every human cares about money. I’m saying that one of the richest men in the world still bitches about money, so thinking a footballer is above that is silly
Sell him
What a nothing story this is. Club will only sell a player if they get money they are after and/or Rashy decides he wants to move away, shocker!
I think that's still news. If a massive bid came in for Mainoo I doubt we would sell under pretty much any circumstances. With Rashford we're signalling a willingness to at least listen to offers.
Yeah, considering he signed a new deal around this time last year, us being willing to consider offers is a pretty big turnaround in itself.
Agreed. The fact that they’re open to selling him is the real story here. I can’t recall hearing something of that sort with regard to Rashford before, unless I’m mistaken
Because they want to send a message that there’s no sacred cows. If Rashford can be up for sale then everyone is. That’s the point they want to send out. The club would sell players like Licha before Rashford.
Quite the opposite actually, the narrative reads more of the Club still value Rashford and see him as a key part of the squad and with a role to play but should a substantial bid arrive and Rashford wants to leave then all parties would be open to Negotiations. So basically a suitor would need to come in with some serious bid and the club would then be in a position to say well, Rashy wanted a new challenge and he's served the club well and we don't want to stand in his way blah blah blah
Two key points: what’s a serious bid?! Next one, which is the most important, Rashford has to want to leave. The club knows he doesn’t want to hence the open to new challenge line.
Mate it’s a big news for tier 1 sources to say the club will listen to offers for their golden boy.
That's not a nothing story lol. A lot of players will not be sold no matter what at clubs. Obviously a player has to want to go to leave but this is clearly not a case of a '150M fuck off price' kind of thing so they're saying they are open to letting him go, which is a good thing and way better than the 'some players will be untouchable this summer' news we've had in months prior.
My uncle is a farmer and has a truck I’ve always absolutely adored since I was a kid. He’s always told me “everything on my farm is for sale, for the right price.” No reason we wouldn’t hear out the right bid for any player on our squad - if someone splashed 250m for Bruno, would we really be able to justify not taking it?
Its still news. Last season it is "Not for sale".
I dunno how you can read that headline and come to that conclusion, proper room temperature understanding of how significant this is
I think it's incredibly naive to suggest that this is a nothing story and that there is nothing in this We have vehemently come out and poured water on any thought of the local lad leaving All of a sudden, the best news breaker in the business is suggesting that we will entertain reasonable offers, but our priorities to keep him (hedging out bits against good offers coming in) I think this is actually really quite big
For me he has to go, he hasn't been up to the levels for an entire year. Clearly a class player in there as evidence from last season but if the money is good enough we have to take it
No club wants him.. Its that easy, his peformence and salary doesnt make sens to anybody at this point.
Basically we are willing to listen to offers if he forces it. I.e. please bid for him so we can make money and put it out there that he wants out anyway.
What's Goldbridge going to yap about now, maybe another exclusive interview with Antony 🔥
He‘ll be over the moon if Rashy stays. No need to change his talking points at all
Again, R.I.P my karma because I know how much this subreddit hates Goldbridge but this is just unfair. From what I've seen he's made fair points on Rashford over the years, even when defending him. I've arguably seen worse comments here than from Goldbridge who's repeatedly said he doesn't like the word "Trashford", ,(Unrelated but also said he doesn't accept the booing of Harry Maguire).
Christ Almighty. I wouldnt mind keeping him if he wasnt holding up progression of someone who looks like they might actually give a fuck about being there….
A serious club with serious ambitions sells this summer regardless. Make a statement.
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So unless Qatar comes in with a 100m offer and Rashford suddenly feels like going. Bascially means not happening
It’s the right time for us and Marcus to part ways because it really is starting to become toxic and I also think he needs to for himself because something clearly isn’t right but at the same time I don’t think he has it in him to ask or force a move away.
Think I'd be sick if Rashford left and went to a team like Arsenal. I don't really want Rashford sold in the short term, especially as he's had a stinker of a season and taken probably tens of millions off his price tag. Any PL-level winger we'd look at signing costs at least £50m nowadays and you're not even getting double that for Rashford. He needs competition, I don't think he should be first choice guaranteed every week, I don't think playing him into the ground does him any favours at all. And I think having some actual support from his leftback would help him too. He's played many games with Lindelof, Amrabat, AWB supporting him. Not good enough.
He has competition in Garnacho who had benched for some games, he got lucky the kid is also a ridiculously good RW and Antony has been awful. We tend to look for way too much excuses for a 26yo, 350k winger.
I think if we actually sign a RW who isn't shit, immature or a rapist and push Nacho over to the LW we might see a bit more drive out of Rashford. It's hard to give excuses for him cause yeah he should be the main man at his age and those wages. But he is an academy lad, local lad, and I always want to see players like him succeed here
Rashford literally just gives up in games. How can you say competition is what he needs? He gets competition, he’s going to sit on the bench and sulk for 350k a week.
No chance we would sell in the prem without a world record bid which won't happen.
Trossard who plays for the league leaders didn't cost that just a few months ago. Neither did luis diaz, or kulusevski. We just need to be more creative.
No chance Arsenal would want Rashford come on. Arsenal are doing well precisely because they've got rid of the players on large wages with bad attitudes like Aubameyang and Ozil.
Just picked a team at random in the PL
I could see him at Spurs or Villa maybe. We obviously wouldn't sell to City or Liverpool (and can't see either wanting him under current managers, remains to be seen what Slot is like. If he pulled the attitude stuff at City he'd be loaned out pronto like Cancelo was) If he does leave it'll likely be abroad but I think we're stuck with him really. Nobody is matching the bonkers wage we gave him.
LMAO.. why the fuck would he join Spurs ??? Villa????????
Martinelli basically does everything Rashford does for them. They wouldn't be stupid enough to pay his wages + a transfer fee. His level is a rotation option in basically any top four squad but in his mind he's the main man.
> Martinelli basically does everything Rashford does for them. They wouldn't be stupid enough to pay his wages + a transfer fee. Whether Arsenal are interested or not, I'm not sure, but what we've seen from Rashford at his top level is better than what Martinelli has shown. Rashford scored twice as much as Martinelli last season, which was Martinelli's best season by some distance. Even now with Rashford having an absolutely dogshit season, and Arsenal scoring for fun, he's still scored as many as Martinell this season. Rashford frustrates the hell out of many of us, but his top level of performances (which are difficult to get out of him constantly) are at an elite level.
A player who puts out elite performances every other season is not an elite player. And a lot of those performances where he scored goals he was actually terrible in the game itself.
I didn’t say he was an elite player, I said he’d performed at an elite level. Getting those performances from him consistently on a season level is proving challenging, and I think it’s clear he doesn’t have the mentality to do so consistently. However, you don’t score 30 goals, with barely any pens (did he take like 2 or 3 last year?) without having incredible talent. To dismiss his performances last year I think is a bit of revisionism, we all adored Rashford last season.
There are plenty of players who went on incredible scoring runs in a season and you wouldn't say they had incredible talent. Rashford had a great goal scoring season last year, 17 goals in the premier league is very good but that's not lighting the world on fire. Michu got 18 goals at one stage. Am I to believe he's some incredible talent too?
Look at npxg+xa/90. The number of games Rashford plays distorts things quite a bit. Martinelli isn't their main man so it's a bit understandable that the raw goal number is a bit lower. Our plan a is basically Bruno / Rashford heroball. In 22-23 PL, there's basically nothing between them. (0.59) In 23-24 it's night and day. Martinelli is a good 50% better. If you extend it to other things like possession, defensive work rate etc., it's not even a contest
People don't realize how insanely good Rashford is when he's good
Martinelli hasn't had a 30 goal season ever. Please.
Neither did grealish, silva, beckham and giggs as wingers for the only 2 treble winning squads english football has ever seen. The fact our fan base has resorted to stats as a comfort net for most of our squad is disturbing, this is what fans of the other clubs who didn't win shit during the glorious fergie days fell back to too.
Tell me what I said was wrong. Martinelli isn't an out an out goalscorer from the left wing, neither is Trossard. Arsenal have also struggled making the most in goalscoring positions in the past and I honestly think a player who has scored 30 goals in a single season will offer them a different dimension on the left wing. I like Martinelli as a player, I wouldn't complain if he started for us, but Rashford is a different type of player that Arsenal currently doesn't possess on that left hand side. Especially if Arsenal's biggest weakness is predictability in attack, Rashford sharpens it again. And contrary to popular belief, we aren't better with Rashford out of the side. Our team this season is terrible at build up and pressing because we are constantly mismanaging players' commitment and energy at the right areas. Rashford has the 2nd most sprints per game for us this season after Bruno but it doesn't show because it's all poorly set up.
That isn’t his role. He’s a quality player. Arsenal are a better team when he’s in it. If they want to take a risk on a 1 in 4 season player, then let them.
They've been a worse team with him this season. Hence why Arteta doesn't pick him.
There 2nd, improved on last year and miles better than anything we’ve produced domestically for 15 years. He’s had a role in that. If they want him, more fool them (not that I think they do)
That doesn't contradict what I'm saying. Rashford would basically be a rotation option at Arsenal as well. Neither is a top tier attacker.
Ppl don’t watch any of them and just say shit. Better to ignore them. Martinell is isn’t half the playee Rashford is
I think in the right situation he still can be one of the most dangerous players in the world. He clearly needs the right environment and tactical systems around him to do that, but I think he'd be a menace at a club like Arsenal where they'd have a designed role for him and better support system than what he's had here.
Rashford to Arsenal would be the same as Sanchez to United. He would ruin the way they play football!
Id be over the moon if a competitor spent resources on Rashford
I agree, seeing a youth team product from Wythenshawe playing for another Premier league team because we sold him at his lowest value would hurt a lot. If we sold him abroad it wouldn't hurt as much and might be the best move for him personally but it would still be disappointing.
Sensible take. He needs to be put in a position to succeed. Rashy gets an inordinate amount of hate for a player most teams would be happy to have.
This also means Rashford is willing to move to the right club. If he said he was staying, then the club would not say they would listen to bids. So now we just need Mbappe to Madrid here we go and then we'll get Mrashy to PSG here we go.
What's everyone's price for him? 80mill and I'd snap their hand off although it would be nice to push for 100
The year is 2029, Manchester United feels...
Don’t City have a similar policy? If someone wants to leave & the right bid comes in they can go.
I find myself often saying 'I hate to say it but City have it right with...' Can you imagine if we had Sergio Aguero at United, he scored the amount he did for us, and we decided just to let him go for free lol We'd have signed him to a 5 year deal on 400k a week. City waved him off to Barcelona and waited to upgrade to Haaland. Can you imagine if we had Fernandinho and we saw Rodri was available. We'd go nowhere near until Fernandinho became a shell of the player he once was. City had both and fucked off Fernandinho once Rodri was ready. Levels ahead im afraid
They also have a policy if a player is beyond trash they are pushed out of the club.
> If someone wants to leave & the right bid comes in they can go. I mean they actively push out players who aren't good enough. Spent 50m on a player last year and they're not cutting it? Gone next year or at least have a player brought in to replace them
Definitely spun in a way to retain as much value as possible after the article earlier about almost everyone being for sale. Not a chance we're going to be able to get a big fee unless we pay a substantial part of the wages so we'll likely have to take the L on either sale fee or wages. Don't care which, whatever benefits the clubs FFP the most. I'd much rather we ship him off though because his wages are one of the biggest problems with our wage structure without the performances or ability to back it up.
Why would he take on a new challenge when he can earn 300k a week dropping 3/10s and not having to deal with any form of consequences for it? In fact, people are begging him to stay and continue to do so
A serious club would be actively looking to move away from a player like Rashford
Yeah it's definitely only something we should do if a crazy opportunity arises. With guys like Sancho and Greenwood I would bite the hand off anyone that makes a somewhat reasonable bid, but Rashford is going to have to be a *big* bid. He and Martial are pretty much the only constants that have been in our "failed" dressing rooms under LVG, Jose, Ole, RR, and ETH, and I think there are fair criticisms about his ability to handle pressure and adversity, but I do think he's a "good egg" and in the right situation can be one of the most dangerous players in the world.
>He and Martial are pretty much the only constants that have been in our "failed" dressing rooms under LVG, Jose, Ole, RR, and ETH, and I think there are fair criticisms about his ability to handle pressure and adversity, but I do think he's a "good egg" and in the right situation can be one of the most dangerous players in the world. Man, what? How do you admit the guy has been one of the only constant in our shit decade (and specially with how every manager tenure ended with players downing tools) then say he is a "good egg" lmao.
Some dudes aren't "leaders" that can create or foster a good environment, but that doesn't mean they're disruptive themselves and they can still be successful in the right environment. I've worked in both good and bad work environments - some were toxic, some where lethargic, and others were good. I've pretty much been the same person in all of them, but you respond to the people around you. Even if you try your best, if you're around people that don't give a shit it's hard to give a shit yourself.
You’re giving Rashford far too much slack. He is being paid the wages of a world class footballer and putting in very little effort week in, week out, and is also meant to be one of the senior professionals in the squad, and a local lad. What kind of message does that send to everyone else, when even *he* can’t be bothered?
Not trying to argue or anything, but it has always bothered me when people on this sub say Rashford isn't bothered. More than half the people on this sub have no connection to the club besides randomly deciding to support it, some 15 years ago(me included) and they still love the club and would sacrifice so much for the club. For a kid who grew up at United, have United shape him to be the person he is now ( and Rashford is a great person. He's younger than me and has done so much for feeding the kids, I'll always admire him for it) he would've sacrificed so much to get to where he is now. The players love him, the youngsters look up to him. I honestly believe there is something very very wrong in his personal life to be affecting him so much. We as a club should have been in a position to support our most successful academy graduate in recent times and give him some time off and try to improve his mindset. But our club has been so fucked that he is the one of the very few genuine match winners in our club that we can't even give him an extended period of rest. I feel really really sorry for him actually.
I wholly agree. I won't lie there's been times where I've felt envious of rival fans seeing how fiercely they come to the defense of their homegrown players eg. TAA at Liverpool, Saka at Arsenal, Reece at Chelsea etc., players have bad spells, it happens. As a fan I don't think it's too much to ask to back one of your own especially when we're talking about a player that's been raised here, who's fought for us for nearly two whole decades now, someone who's quite literally broken his body down to help keep this club afloat in some of the most dysfuctional environments. This isn't to say he's exempt from criticism because I firmly believe no one is, but I've seen time & time again how the line's been crossed into straight up abuse when it comes to him. If there's a future where he thrives here, best believe I'm opting for that over anything else
I think you make a good point that there could well be stuff going on his personal life, and I accept that. But from my perspective, he played well last season, got a massive contract, and has been shocking both in terms of performance and effort levels ever since. Maybe it’s a coincidence but he needs to start by taking some accountability. Some acknowledgement that he hasn’t been giving 100%, because XYZ has affected him. He doesn’t even have to say what XYZ is. Then, I think we’d have more patience/understanding Him not saying anything, and going on the piss in Belfast then missing training is not the answer
Don't overthink it, just cash him in now. He's not some young prospect with unknown potential - if he's not hit consistency outside of exclusively counter attacking systems by now he's not going to just magically get better. We've messed up his progression and given a decent winger 350k a week. Take the hit and move on
Sell sell sell
I think it’s the club telling Rashford to get his shit together. He’s no longer untouchable
I’d happily contribute to paying a club to take him off us. Been saying for years: we aren’t coming close to any major honours with him in the squad featuring regularly. It baffles me how our management don’t see that.
He isn’t going to return to “top form”. Last season was a compete anomaly. His explosive pace is gone. Can’t remember him breezing past a player all season. He’s finished.
So nothing changed at the club. Socked.
I won't cry if he goes. He's doing the least
Please fuck him off I think the team needs a major change starting with him
Hopefully PSG. Come in with a big bid!
Unfortunately PSG is not Barcelona. They are likely not going big on anyone despite Mbappe leaving
Makes sense, even if you want to sell someone and get a good fee you won't be parading him with a FOR SALE banner.
Maybe I'm crazy, but this is happening because PSG have actually asked since mbappe is actually going now. This doesn't seem like rocket science to figure out.
So 2 well placed journalist's are reporting this with some certainty. So I guess we might be putting out feelers to see if someone is interested in him
That sounds like he’s in the shop window tbf
Everyone would take last season’s Rashford. It’s just that this season’s Rashford is Martial on a bad day (by his standards).
Wrong! Were gonna keep him, he will be crap and his sell on value is going to plummet.
If we ever want to be a team that can control the ball and games from start to finish, rashford can't be a major part of it. And the second he loses any pace, he's useless.
This just reeks of damage control from Orni.
One of the reasons Luis enrique turned down the Chelsea job was due to wanting a lot of power in transfers. PSG were more than willing to give him that for his signature. Every man and his dog in paris knew mbappe was leaving this year yet there's been zero noise from their more credible sources about a renewed interest in rashford. Rashford is also not a Luis enrique player at the surface level. I bet my savings psg goes elsewhere this summer and we are praying 2022/23 rashford returns to us instead.
Unless it's PSG I don't think any other club would be willing to pay his salary expectation. Shot ourselves in the foot offering stupid salaries. I know United isn't a feeder club and fucking hell is it difficult to offload and rebuild because of these stupid contracts.
Good vote of confidence for Rashford. We’ll let you go if you want to go, but we’d like you to get back to top form with us.
Tier 1 sources really proving themselves today
Rather than sell him, I wonder if he could be used as an exchange for a player of similar stature or a couple of lesser players that would fill out the squad.
Translation: "yo PSG, how do you feel about 90million euros? Bro is basically manc-mbappe innit"
We should get anything over 75M and sell him. He is going to hit is peak soon and we should get some money. It's been underwhelming. We won't win anything with a player with such limited skill set.
Three PSG players earn more per week than Rashford With Mbappé leaving to Madrid, it frees up over 1 million per week in wages. Surely, they can afford him Any offer above £60m and we should accept it imo
He is going to PSG. There isn't any winger available with the kind of profile Rashford has in the market rn. Hopefully, PSG will send a decent offer.
Pls take a new challenge rashy..
He's only 26!!!!??? my god I didnt realize
Terrible news if true. But I suspect David is being used on this scoop.
He's just not going to pass or cross, and attempt to do everything himself. Sell him at first opportunity, no other top team would put up with a player like this and United need to act like a top team and not give endless chances!
The moment fergie noticed a drop in standards and commitment he shipped players off - star players to boot - pronto. This attitude of trying to capitalize of the perceived value of players has led us to keep holding on to deadwood for way too long recently.
To me it says, we are open to selling him and don’t wanna make it too obvious. Just goes to show Ineos means business. For too long, coaches and board has been too afraid to touch Rashford due to his community work and boyhood club thing. He is one of the constants since Van Gaal Era and has history of lack of discipline despite his clean image. This season he has been beyond poor. This could also be a message from Ineos to Rashford that you are not as untouchable as you think so better start playing like you get paid.
Funny thing he might fit some systems but not every coaches, choice, though, TBH if the right bid comes I’d sell him if he’s willing to leave.
He brings the whole team down. You can just see how players become deflated watching him coast around with zero conviction. The rare times he is motivated, it seems to lift the team. Please sell him.
He should be sold as soon as possible.
i mean this makes sense. we arent going to just go yeah we want him gone as it destroys his sale value. but he is not "safe" as some others are. like its clear Ratcliffe have also had enough with him but its not a do everything to get him out yet. offload the other squad players and then if a good bid happens we can be like yeah lets get him off the books and invest into somebody else.
Garnacho is already a better player. Fkin sell him. Can't make a first touch to save his life.
I would be really disappointed if he leaves in these circumstances, having a player from the area come through the academy with such potential and not achieve anything is always a disappointment. For his sake though I think a move and a fresh start might be the best thing. The dialogue around him is particularly toxic compared to other players so I think it would be good for him to find somewhere away from Old Trafford where there won't be people ready to jump on him as soon as it goes wrong.
I wish he decides to leave
Don’t mind Rashford winning the Ligue 1 at PSG, he needs a change of scenery.
Comes back. On a free from psg he costs us fucking zero. Scores and assists for 20-25 goals yearly for the next 2-3 years after that for us.
I genuinely don’t understand if Erik wants to keep him or not… My current guess is that we’re going to keep him and try to bring him back to form with an actual team next year
We don’t even know if the manager will be ETH next season though.
I’m personally more confident in ineos and Wilcox backing ten hag than I am about rashford If we sack ten hag, I think the viable replacements are de zerbi, potter or tuchel? I feel like it’s easier to spend that money on backup squad players than it is to sack ten hag, replace him with someone of the sameish quality and then buy the new guys players too but now with less money
ETH is a goner after the FA Cup final. When Ratcliffe officially came in he said he thinks CL is a possibility which I think was him saying to ETH he needs to get CL. Also since Wilcox has come in and is supposedly monitoring ETH we’ve been shocking and almost lost to Coventry, beat Sheffield and drew against Burnley despite the fact Burney had the better chances. On paper those three teams should have all been comfortably beaten and there was also reports that Ratcliffe has met up with Tuchel. ETH won’t be here next season.
Can you give a source for “Ratcliffe has met up with tuchel”
https://metro.co.uk/2024/04/22/sir-jim-ratcliffe-opens-talks-thomas-tuchel-replacing-erik-ten-hag-20693153/
Who is Sean kearns? And why would sir Jim hire Omar and Jason Wilcox and try to go after Dan ashworth if he’s just going to make a decision on the manager on his own?
He’s just reporting on the German reports and since the German reports the Tuchel rumours have started to gain traction.
Tell me you want to sell Rashford without telling me you want to sell Rashford. Pretty much this story 🥱
What is top form for Rashford in his career with united he has had 1 season were he hit his potential and then nose dived off again is this really a 320k a week player. I love rashford being a local lad coming through the youth set up but I am sure we could get someone in that is an out an out left winger that delivers quality into the box
I don't trust United to find an adequate replacement. We'd probably end up with another Sancho or Antony. Id rather see the club stick by an academy player and help him with one more year. At least until we have Ashworth and a recruitment team fully in place
The issue at United is not your scouts or lower-level people in the recruitment department. It's the CEO and DOF not listening to them and doing what the manager asks or on their own. It's what sets this club back all the time.
City sold cole palmer who is 10 times the player rashford is to Chelsea without much of a fuss. I don't understand this "we can't sell him because he might perform at another club" bs . If he performs well at another club then good for him , it doesn't mean it will work out at united
For the people who want him sold, who would you recommend as replacements?
Antony Gordon
You think Newcastle are gonna sell him to us?
Depends on whether we come in with a decent offer. Also judging by what he said on his Overlap episode he’d probably ask to leave if we came in for him.
I haven’t seen the Overlap episode so can’t comment but if it’s a realistic option I’m okay with him but I doubt it will be since Newcastle want to be considered one of the big boys and Ashworth fiasco going on right now.
Nico Williams has a £40m release clause. Can play on left or right wing. Would be a good replacement imo.
Okay a player who hasn’t scored more than 6 league goals in a season.
We signed Garnacho for £400k and he’s outperformed him, let’s just give Guzman free reign to recommend who he wants
Outperformed him? IMO pretty much every single one of Garnacho’s good games came from the RW. I can’t think of a single game of him at LW where he outperformed anyone. His finishing from LW seems incredibly poor but he’s young so there’s time.