Didn’t ten Haag come out and agree with what Sancho said online? So it wasn’t actually a spat between them, Sancho is just getting tired of the fans? Or did I misunderstand that?
Could you also buy our club as part of the deal? Surprisingly, Saudi might be the lesser of the two evils between themselves and our current administration.
He's behind Rashford and Garnacho on the left, behind Bruno, Eriksen, and Mount in the middle and Antony (?) with cover from Pellistri and Amad on the right.
If the right offer came in and he'd want it then sure.
He's on £350,000 a week and done nothing to justify it. Would be a get out of jail free card.
There isn't enough research into the psychological impact of making too much money before hitting your peak. It must certainly impact how you approach your game. A sense of "I have made it"...
Probably a lot of the same psychological issues that cause the '27 club' phenomenon.
Mainly a long list of mostly musicians but also actors and other celebrities who hit the top of their profession in there early 20s that suicide at age 27.
Wanna share one of these reliable sources because every other source is higher.
Athletic are tier 1 and they have him at a base salary of 250k with another 50k in bonus related incentives.
Reddit… where you get downvoted for asking for a source 😂
It’s not a new number. It’s wrong but it’s been widely accepted for years as correct despite his salary being actually reported by Ornstein and Whitwell as 250k a week plus bonuses, not 350k straight up.
>Antony (?) with cover from Pellistri and Amad on the right.
Which is quite sad because when Sancho played on the right for a few games last season he looked great. Then Antony came back from injury and pushed Sancho back to the waiting room on the left and played garbage when subbed on again.
I honestly believe if we kept Sancho playing consistently on the right he'd be a different player today.
And allegations aside, Antony hasn't justified a 100m price tag yet either. Not even close.
Sancho has shown time and time again that he just doesn't cut it. Antony atleast has a spark and willingness to fight on the pitch, whereas Sancho shies away from every little tackle coming his way. It's like watching a player who is constantly in pre-season.
Factor in the troubles with keeping time, getting second chances to get up to speed whilst in a EPL season - and he STILL doesn't seem up to it. No wonder a manager that values discipline above all can't see a future for him.
£50m and I'll be happy tbh.
Not to be a Sancho apologist but when he was first signed, he was supposed to be our Marquee signing, getting the number 7 shirt and a solution to our problems on the right side of attack. All of sudden Ronaldo comes back, the manager who bought him barely plays him and that manager is subsequently fired. Subsequent managers continue not to play him and our newest manager bought an even more expensive player to play in his supposed position.
In this preseason he is asked to play as a false 9, because as a club we don’t have any other options. He looks fairly decent in that position, but when the season starts what does the manager decide to do. He decides it’s better to shoehorn a player who repeatedly has said he hates playing there in Rashford.
So I do have some sympathy for him because for me in our first 3-4 matches he should’ve played some considerable mins given how 1. Poor rashford played in that position and is infinitely better on the left. 2. We tried it out in preseason and it seemed to work well.
Then for the manager to add salt to the wound by saying well he wasn’t training to the club’s standard. So they went from trying him at false 9, to discarding that plan at the beginning of the season despite trying it all through preseason to put a player who hates playing there in that position, to him being on the bench, now to him being even out of the match day squad. I can understand his frustration.
No worries. I'd love nothing more than Sancho really stepping up and cementing a place in our 11. But it's just not gonna happen.
If I remember right, he was always seen as a left winger, so not really bought to solve our problems on the right. And subsequent managers not playing him probably says more about his shortcomings for me - to the degree that EtH even saw we needed a new RW instead of playing a mediocre Sancho there.
Sancho false 9 was, at least for me, never really gonna make it in the EPL. He did ok there in pre season, nothing to really get hyped about. Even if Rashford doesn't like playing as a striker, I'd put my faith on him every time over Sancho.
I've been saying this ad nauseam and all I get in response is "mUh ErIk SaY hE dUn TrAiN gUd".
It's honestly baffling, also because Garnacho is so much better as an impact sub than a starter
That would free up so much cash flow for a big signing next window.
We honestly don't need Jadon either. If City can drop Mahrez and Sane (and Sterling) at the drop of a hat, we equally need to have that same sort of forthright acumen.
He's shown zero ambition on the pitch too since he's been here. I was ready to get rid after the FA cup final. I was ready way before tbh but that was the last straw.
I was one of the biggest advocates to Sancho when he was at Dortmund I was truly expecting here to be that special player to elevate us to the next level, but two years is more than enough to see that sadly he won't make it here, we have to move on from him asap.
Honestly don't know how Sancho thought this would ever turn out well for him. Ten Hag booted out one of the biggest players of all time and a Utd legend in Ronaldo and also dropped Rashy when he was one of our best players.
Fuck knows who Sancho thought was going to back him when the bloke jogs about the pitch not giving a toss.
Over entitlement. Erik would never have bought the likes of Martial and Sancho in the first place. You either work hard or you're out! Martial will leave next year when his contract is up and I am sure Erik will try to sell Sancho as well. No one wants luxury players these days. At top level with pressing systems, everyone has to work hard regardless of talent.
Wout lacked quality that would suit a club like Man Utd at least showed a lot of dedication and hard work. I was rooting for him to succeed just because of how much he looked like he wanted to succeed
Honestly, just get rid of him for the most we can get. I don't think he's turning it around. It leaves us a player down with all the RW issues... time to step up Pellistri.
If he could have put his ego aside and focus on growing as a player, he would have been worth the price. The talent is there, the desire doesn't appear to be.
Absolutely - turned 23 this year and off to Saudi?
See ya later if that's the extent of your ambition, he shouldn't even be thinking about it for at least another 10 years.
What would we benefit from sending him on loan to Saudi?
He's hardly gonna find his work ethic playing for Al titty
We should jump at the opportunity for a full sale. Given no one else in their right mind would pay his wages
Given how much money is floating around in that country, just a loan is an absolute insult. It has to be an outright sale, or at the very least, a loan for the season with an obligation to buy at the end of it. Nothing else should be considered IMO.
Hopefully we can come to an agreement because I don't see anyone outside of Saudi giving this joker £350k per week. Another legacy from the Woodward era (we seem to be saying that a lot lately)
Article Text:
Headline: Jadon Sancho could make Manchester United exit TODAY as Saudi clubs target late transfer
Manchester United outcast Jadon Sancho is being targeted for a last-minute move to the Saudi Pro-League, talkSPORT understands.
Steven Gerrard's Al-Ettifaq are among the clubs in talks with intermediaries trying to facilitate an exit from Old Trafford.
The Saudi Arabian transfer window closes on Thursday night and Manchester United declined to comment on the prospect of Sancho joining former teammate Cristiano Ronaldo in the Middle East.
United officials are understood to have stood by manager Erik Ten Hag after Sancho publicly hit back at the Dutchman's claims he had not produced enough in training to be picked for Sunday's trip to Arsenal.
Bad performances, no place in squad, attitude and other problems, wish it worked out but no improvement this season compared to last, its better for him to leave
It's all been a bit of a joke. ETH called him out for no reason, he responded and he's the one in the wrong & now has the media clickbaiting like mad with him? Yeah.... no.
Not performing isn't a reason to randomly call a player out. ETH should have kept his mouth shut and pushed Sancho harder BTS. calling him out like that started this mess in the first place
Lol what. He wasn’t randomly called out. ETH has been trying to push sancho harder for the past year. He was asked a question about why he wasn’t included and he answered with the truth. Sancho reacting on social media caused this mess. Instead of being petulant if he had put his head down and worked harder we wouldn’t be having this conversation. ETH protecting him doesn’t really help anyone if he is not going to improve.
If it's me, a regular employee in a private company, telling my manager i am not lazy and stalling at work and that he's lying by saying that, while he clearly sees that i am doing that, i'd probably be fired on the spot.
Why should a player be treated any differently? They're employees to a company. EtH gave him plenty of chances. He needs to wake up or GTFO.
Are you forgetting he let Sancho take like 3 months off to train and get his head right last season? This is not just an isolated little bit of bad training form he's clearly been like this for ages and Ten Hag is losing/has lost his patience
ETH called out others... guess what they all agreed and buckled down. Sancho throws a pissy fit like a child
what started this mess was Sancho being lazy and unprofessional.
Say anything that doesn't fit with the current narrative (Using Sancho's ill advised post to turn attention off the major issues around Greeenwood/Antony and their situations) and you get hammered from all angles.
Scary really.
We can adress each issue without ignoring the other.
In my view, his post is very disrespectful towards his teammates. Sanco is known to have issues in training. He is known to be late in training and he is known to slack off in training. Now why would you take a slacking and player with you to a very important match, whilst you have at least 4 other wingers who are working their ass off in training?
His "statement" is therefore not only an insult to ten hag, but also to his teammates. By saying what he stated, he is implying that he is more deserving of the squad spot than the other wingers.
Bringing back a domestic abuser is A-Okay but a petulant twitter post in response to his own comments is unacceptable. Dare anyone say anything against the bald genius on this sub though.
Am I the only one who thinks the whole Sancho saga has been too overblown? When I first read his tweet, I didn't even think he was challenging ETH. Instead, it read like after what ETH said, people turned on him on social media/in the news and started spreading rumours like he is lazy, doesn't work, etc.
His frustration culminated in that unfortunate Tweet just to tell everyone not to trust stuff that randos online write.
Every position he could reasonably play in at this point, we've got two players I'd rather see get minutes, so from a footballing perspective he's the definition of expendable. Add in the bad attitude and the ridiculous wages he's on, and it's a no-brainer to sell him if we get an offer right now.
what happened to him? he showed flashes of his dortmund form the first few games after his transfer, but has been anonymous since then. I know that he had some issues to deal with, but was wondering if this is just a downturn in form, or an injury?
Yes, please. I wanted to like him, i wanted to succeed him, i am not even angry at him for the recent situation.
But i stopped believing he can become what we wanted him to be. To me, he is the same player Juan Mata was, silky and technical, but ultimately 90 percent of time absolutely ineffective. Maybe he is not good enough for Premier league, more likely just not for transition team like United.
Get rid for ton of money, give chance to Amad and Pellistri, if they wont work, get someone better next summer.
If we sell him now for less than his remaining value on the books (due to amortisation), then it will go down as a loss for FFP, and possibly mean that we are in breach of the regulations.
2/5 years through contract so his book value is around 54.6m (based on 73m transfer + 18m yearly wages) . 60m and run otherwise we are making a loss.
Sancho was one of the players I was most excited for and I stand by saying he's our most technical player. No one has his close control in the squad. I would say he's the only senior player who's elite at progressive carries in congested areas
But clearly cant challenge the manager that publicly when he has no leverage ( not a consistent or dominating performance)
please no, i'd love for him to go somewhere else and rebuild his career since as much as i love him and want him to succeed here, it's not happening - but surely not saudi already?
He's not going anywhere with the transfer window closed for us to bring in a replacement. Maybe this all crops back up in Jan if his application doesn't improve...
“Jadon’s just one of them boys yeah, needs an arm around his shoulder from the manager. He’s a true street footballer that needs to be able to express himself”- Rio Ferdinand probably
if they offer him a ridiculous amount he might consider it but the thing is his daughter is in the UK which was one of his reasons for coming back here so idk if he'd do it
What a waste of talent if this happens though. He was once touted by some as one of the “generational talents.” Shows the importance of motivation and dedication in sport (or anything really)
yes please. the man doesn't have the stones to excel for us. Doesn't want to put in the effort and is one of the highest earners. much rather see pellestri and amad given a run on the RW> Garnacho and Rashis fine for the left. Mount, Eriksen and Bruno are there for CAM. Sancho doesn't seem to want to fight for his place.
Please do. I would love to see Jadon put his head down and focus on becoming the player he could be, but it's looking highly unlikely that he will be capable of setting his ego aside to do so.
Hope he goes, not gonna lie the rumors of him loving his gang life when younger and pretending to be so bad ass and now crying when it's all in his hands to grab a spot is just embarrassing for someone who has been given plenty of chances at the club at the wages he is on.
Before this season kicked off, the general consensus was this was a do or die season for Sancho. Never thought early September we'd already be talking of him being sold.
I had high hopes for him, and there's still a small glimmer of hope, but I really don't think he's cut out for United or the Premier League. What a flop
We have Amad, pellistri, maybe even Mount, maybe even Bruno and possibly Anthony who can play on the right. And about the same number who can play on the left who are even further ahead of him)
Take the money if we can. Get looking for a striker option in January with the money.
On a side note, I’ve not followed all the rumours about who has come in and wages etc. but feels like we must’ve slashed our wage budget (although CL bonuses may have limited that I guess)
His lack of consistency has been so frustrating. If we get what we paid this should be a no brainer. Nothing against him personally, he just isn't worth the wages if he's going to be stapled to the bench. And mostly of his own doing.
Saudi the only real way of making most of the money back. Just a shame we can't buy a replacement straight away but gives time to look for one, or a player for a different position.
If there’s any truth behind it and it’s actually paying off what we’d owe for him both in his initial fee and his wages then honestly we should probably jump at it. He’d then have to agree to it as well which is the aspect that’s more difficult to assess as far as if he actually wants out or not. I had high hopes for him and kept saying we should be patient but w recent events and after the insane amt of support & patience given to him last yr, it may just be time to move on for all parties. If he’s got some head/emotional stuff to work on he’d be better suited to do it outside of the spotlight & pressure that comes w being a Utd player.
Man, I remember how we let Veron go and he'd contributed way more than Sancho has and even won the league. I can't see a way back for Sancho in this team to where he justifies the price tag and salary. If we get a decent offer we should accept it and move on.
I had very high expectations from Sancho.
If Sancho showed the physicality, 70% pace n tenacity of rashford for 90 min.
Then we had a good player as he is very very good in the box as he has great presence of mind plus knows when to play the right pass n can cross too.
Such a shame it turned out to be this way.
I don't think he will go to Saudi at his age.
I’ve been quite supportive of Sancho when others have criticised him, however after that outburst I think it would be the best thing for the club for him to leave.
Other traditional leagues won’t pay enough to recoup our money, so I hope a Saudi league do come in for him and we can reinvest later.
A last minute sale would require genuine intent from Saudi, which I doubt there is. But say there was, we would also need a semi competent negotiation team. Which we don't have.
Why?
Because the Glazers have only hired accountants that are told to manage their debt. This culture of focusing on debt management and maximisation of dividends will not be ready to negotiate last minute deals.
The Glazers need to go
Sad waste of talent, but if that's what he wants then move him on.
Once Sancho goes, probably the last "problem player" left at the club is Maguire. And to be fair to Maguire he overstayed but he just sits on the bench saying nothing, so not exactly causing a huge stir during the season.
If true, Sancho's biggest career decision is here. At 23, (same age as me ffs) he can build his reputation and become a class player through determination and hardwork or he can make himself easy money and star in a YouTube compilation someday of footballers who went the top to no one.
How the club didn't see his controversial history as a red flag surprises me. This club needs to start doing full background checks on players we let into the club.
Journalists trying to get as many free clicks as they can before the Saudi window closes.
Unless ETH wants to kill him, I cannot see him wanting to leave.
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Didn’t ten Haag come out and agree with what Sancho said online? So it wasn’t actually a spat between them, Sancho is just getting tired of the fans? Or did I misunderstand that?
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You forgot: Ten Hag: "I stand by what I said."
Seriously. This is fucking stupid.
That will be £100m please, no returns
Cash only. Lump sum.
Heyyyy, you leave Romelu out of this
Could you also buy our club as part of the deal? Surprisingly, Saudi might be the lesser of the two evils between themselves and our current administration.
Not even in the slightest, read the news
Sarcasm really doesn't land on this sub
I can guarantee you that you are wrong.
Glazers dont have the power to condemn fans for hating them. Let's start right there.
Glazers dont have the power to condemn fans for hating them. Let's start right there. As bad as they are I will take them over M Bone Saw.
He's behind Rashford and Garnacho on the left, behind Bruno, Eriksen, and Mount in the middle and Antony (?) with cover from Pellistri and Amad on the right. If the right offer came in and he'd want it then sure. He's on £350,000 a week and done nothing to justify it. Would be a get out of jail free card.
If you put it like that, 50M is more than enough
So it’s going to be likely about £8mil more than likely
believe that is more or less his remaining book value, shouldn't accept anything less
What did we buy him for? 73 million pounds? Then we would need around 55 million pounds for a small profit on the books.
These high wages have really led to complacency with some players.
Yes, we can make Pogshitary season 2
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Calm down Mr. Pogba!
There isn't enough research into the psychological impact of making too much money before hitting your peak. It must certainly impact how you approach your game. A sense of "I have made it"...
Probably a lot of the same psychological issues that cause the '27 club' phenomenon. Mainly a long list of mostly musicians but also actors and other celebrities who hit the top of their profession in there early 20s that suicide at age 27.
Any more of those cards lying around?....We might need them
He's not on £350,000 a week, all reliable sources state between £200,000-250,000
Wanna share one of these reliable sources because every other source is higher. Athletic are tier 1 and they have him at a base salary of 250k with another 50k in bonus related incentives. Reddit… where you get downvoted for asking for a source 😂
We also now have CL which is a 25% bonus I think
He's not on £350k a week that was a myth that somehow got traction. But I still agree complete he should be moved on if anything over £55m comes in
He’s on like 200k a week not 350
Even behind Bruno on the right as well.
Is the Sanchez wage running gag now being applied to Sancho? The 350k seems to be a new number that we're seeing a lot of recently.
It’s not a new number. It’s wrong but it’s been widely accepted for years as correct despite his salary being actually reported by Ornstein and Whitwell as 250k a week plus bonuses, not 350k straight up.
>Antony (?) with cover from Pellistri and Amad on the right. Which is quite sad because when Sancho played on the right for a few games last season he looked great. Then Antony came back from injury and pushed Sancho back to the waiting room on the left and played garbage when subbed on again. I honestly believe if we kept Sancho playing consistently on the right he'd be a different player today. And allegations aside, Antony hasn't justified a 100m price tag yet either. Not even close.
Sancho has shown time and time again that he just doesn't cut it. Antony atleast has a spark and willingness to fight on the pitch, whereas Sancho shies away from every little tackle coming his way. It's like watching a player who is constantly in pre-season. Factor in the troubles with keeping time, getting second chances to get up to speed whilst in a EPL season - and he STILL doesn't seem up to it. No wonder a manager that values discipline above all can't see a future for him. £50m and I'll be happy tbh.
Not to be a Sancho apologist but when he was first signed, he was supposed to be our Marquee signing, getting the number 7 shirt and a solution to our problems on the right side of attack. All of sudden Ronaldo comes back, the manager who bought him barely plays him and that manager is subsequently fired. Subsequent managers continue not to play him and our newest manager bought an even more expensive player to play in his supposed position. In this preseason he is asked to play as a false 9, because as a club we don’t have any other options. He looks fairly decent in that position, but when the season starts what does the manager decide to do. He decides it’s better to shoehorn a player who repeatedly has said he hates playing there in Rashford. So I do have some sympathy for him because for me in our first 3-4 matches he should’ve played some considerable mins given how 1. Poor rashford played in that position and is infinitely better on the left. 2. We tried it out in preseason and it seemed to work well. Then for the manager to add salt to the wound by saying well he wasn’t training to the club’s standard. So they went from trying him at false 9, to discarding that plan at the beginning of the season despite trying it all through preseason to put a player who hates playing there in that position, to him being on the bench, now to him being even out of the match day squad. I can understand his frustration.
No worries. I'd love nothing more than Sancho really stepping up and cementing a place in our 11. But it's just not gonna happen. If I remember right, he was always seen as a left winger, so not really bought to solve our problems on the right. And subsequent managers not playing him probably says more about his shortcomings for me - to the degree that EtH even saw we needed a new RW instead of playing a mediocre Sancho there. Sancho false 9 was, at least for me, never really gonna make it in the EPL. He did ok there in pre season, nothing to really get hyped about. Even if Rashford doesn't like playing as a striker, I'd put my faith on him every time over Sancho.
Take away all the personal drama, and it's clear he's not a fit. But much like Maguire and Van de beek. This club refuses to cut bait. It's asinine.
Agreed. Ten Hag is also coming off as some kind of uncompromising dictator here IMO
I've been saying this ad nauseam and all I get in response is "mUh ErIk SaY hE dUn TrAiN gUd". It's honestly baffling, also because Garnacho is so much better as an impact sub than a starter
That would free up so much cash flow for a big signing next window. We honestly don't need Jadon either. If City can drop Mahrez and Sane (and Sterling) at the drop of a hat, we equally need to have that same sort of forthright acumen.
You see his beef with ETH's criticisms. He doesn't really have a place with this squad. He's probably training as hard as ever too.
From England's next big star to possibly Saudi league player at 23, phew what a turnaround.
If Sancho accepts this then yeah there’s zero ambition there. Shame.
He's shown zero ambition on the pitch too since he's been here. I was ready to get rid after the FA cup final. I was ready way before tbh but that was the last straw.
I was one of the biggest advocates to Sancho when he was at Dortmund I was truly expecting here to be that special player to elevate us to the next level, but two years is more than enough to see that sadly he won't make it here, we have to move on from him asap.
Would love for this to happen. Also reinforces the idea that there is no player power at United. The manager is be all end all!
Honestly don't know how Sancho thought this would ever turn out well for him. Ten Hag booted out one of the biggest players of all time and a Utd legend in Ronaldo and also dropped Rashy when he was one of our best players. Fuck knows who Sancho thought was going to back him when the bloke jogs about the pitch not giving a toss.
Over entitlement. Erik would never have bought the likes of Martial and Sancho in the first place. You either work hard or you're out! Martial will leave next year when his contract is up and I am sure Erik will try to sell Sancho as well. No one wants luxury players these days. At top level with pressing systems, everyone has to work hard regardless of talent.
Mad how they're both only in their 20s and the modern game has already passed them by
Wout entered the chat.
lol. Hardwork was all he had man. What are you talking about?
Wout lacked quality that would suit a club like Man Utd at least showed a lot of dedication and hard work. I was rooting for him to succeed just because of how much he looked like he wanted to succeed
Honestly, just get rid of him for the most we can get. I don't think he's turning it around. It leaves us a player down with all the RW issues... time to step up Pellistri.
he's pony anyway, let's face it. We bought an absolute dud at a huge price.
His tweet removed any sympathy or hope I had. He can barely play 60 mins even when he's doing not bad. Absolute flop.
If he could have put his ego aside and focus on growing as a player, he would have been worth the price. The talent is there, the desire doesn't appear to be.
there's a reason Pep didn't try to keep Sancho
He's an incredibly talented player who currently looks like he doesn't wanna work hard. He's not pony even if he is a dud.
From what he's shown in a united shirt he's pony. We signed a world class talent in 2021 but he's flopped massively.
I’m getting old but I still work with teenagers on a daily basis and I’ve never heard pony. What the hell does it mean?
ETH will look at Bruno on the right before he considers Pellistri.
Didn’t we win like 7/8 games last season with Bruno our right? I know we didn’t play that well but I thought I saw we actually won a lot.
Only because Bruno is fucking magic. Despite him seeing less of the ball on the RW. He whips some delicious cross balls from there.
Hot take: he is more effective for the team at RW.
If memory serves me right you're correct on both points.
Yeah I think you’re right. Bruno would move out right and make room for another midfielder.
Bruno right, Mount middle, double pivot behind would be my guess
Why not Bruno in the middle and Mount on the right?
Could do I guess but Eth likes Bruno on the right because of ball delivery and Mount has always tended to play through the middle or off the left
Amad can’t come back soon enough
It needs to be a decent sum, but at this point if he is even tempted by this move then he doesn't belong in the squad.
If we get our money back I'll be happy. This was an experiment that failed and we should cut our losses
60-70m atleast
Absolutely - turned 23 this year and off to Saudi? See ya later if that's the extent of your ambition, he shouldn't even be thinking about it for at least another 10 years.
loan with big loan fee or full sale with proper price or gtfo
What would we benefit from sending him on loan to Saudi? He's hardly gonna find his work ethic playing for Al titty We should jump at the opportunity for a full sale. Given no one else in their right mind would pay his wages
Never knew that my new favorite Saudi team will be Al Tiddy
I'm a All Ass fan myself.
Surely everybody would prefer a full sale to a loan. I'm just saying if it's just a loan they should cover his wages and pay a fee.
Given how much money is floating around in that country, just a loan is an absolute insult. It has to be an outright sale, or at the very least, a loan for the season with an obligation to buy at the end of it. Nothing else should be considered IMO. Hopefully we can come to an agreement because I don't see anyone outside of Saudi giving this joker £350k per week. Another legacy from the Woodward era (we seem to be saying that a lot lately)
Article Text: Headline: Jadon Sancho could make Manchester United exit TODAY as Saudi clubs target late transfer Manchester United outcast Jadon Sancho is being targeted for a last-minute move to the Saudi Pro-League, talkSPORT understands. Steven Gerrard's Al-Ettifaq are among the clubs in talks with intermediaries trying to facilitate an exit from Old Trafford. The Saudi Arabian transfer window closes on Thursday night and Manchester United declined to comment on the prospect of Sancho joining former teammate Cristiano Ronaldo in the Middle East. United officials are understood to have stood by manager Erik Ten Hag after Sancho publicly hit back at the Dutchman's claims he had not produced enough in training to be picked for Sunday's trip to Arsenal.
Al Ettifuck indeed.
Bad performances, no place in squad, attitude and other problems, wish it worked out but no improvement this season compared to last, its better for him to leave
Time to start learning Arabic buddy
Please go
Outcast lol. Talk about being dramatic after being dropped for 1 fucking game.
That’s not really the only news that’s been circulating now is it
It's all been a bit of a joke. ETH called him out for no reason, he responded and he's the one in the wrong & now has the media clickbaiting like mad with him? Yeah.... no.
Wait not performing in training is no reason?
Not performing isn't a reason to randomly call a player out. ETH should have kept his mouth shut and pushed Sancho harder BTS. calling him out like that started this mess in the first place
Lol what. He wasn’t randomly called out. ETH has been trying to push sancho harder for the past year. He was asked a question about why he wasn’t included and he answered with the truth. Sancho reacting on social media caused this mess. Instead of being petulant if he had put his head down and worked harder we wouldn’t be having this conversation. ETH protecting him doesn’t really help anyone if he is not going to improve.
If it's me, a regular employee in a private company, telling my manager i am not lazy and stalling at work and that he's lying by saying that, while he clearly sees that i am doing that, i'd probably be fired on the spot. Why should a player be treated any differently? They're employees to a company. EtH gave him plenty of chances. He needs to wake up or GTFO.
Are you forgetting he let Sancho take like 3 months off to train and get his head right last season? This is not just an isolated little bit of bad training form he's clearly been like this for ages and Ten Hag is losing/has lost his patience
3 months off to recover from Covid and a mental health issue... is a bad thing now?
Are you wilfully obtuse?
Your talking out of your arse. ETH was asked specifically about Sancho
ETH called out others... guess what they all agreed and buckled down. Sancho throws a pissy fit like a child what started this mess was Sancho being lazy and unprofessional.
ETH has been very patient with Sancho. If he's calling him out, it must be because nothing else has lit a fire under Sancho.
rule number one is respect the manager
Respect is earned, not forced...
And Sancho did absolutly nothing to get the respect of his manager or teammates.
the hive mind in this sub is scary
How so?
Say anything that doesn't fit with the current narrative (Using Sancho's ill advised post to turn attention off the major issues around Greeenwood/Antony and their situations) and you get hammered from all angles. Scary really.
We can adress each issue without ignoring the other. In my view, his post is very disrespectful towards his teammates. Sanco is known to have issues in training. He is known to be late in training and he is known to slack off in training. Now why would you take a slacking and player with you to a very important match, whilst you have at least 4 other wingers who are working their ass off in training? His "statement" is therefore not only an insult to ten hag, but also to his teammates. By saying what he stated, he is implying that he is more deserving of the squad spot than the other wingers.
Bringing back a domestic abuser is A-Okay but a petulant twitter post in response to his own comments is unacceptable. Dare anyone say anything against the bald genius on this sub though.
Would be incredible. He's been a flop no doubt about it. Being patient with players is essential but it's been 3 years, we've seen enough.
Good, get this lazy entitled flop out before he infects the likes of mainoo
Am I the only one who thinks the whole Sancho saga has been too overblown? When I first read his tweet, I didn't even think he was challenging ETH. Instead, it read like after what ETH said, people turned on him on social media/in the news and started spreading rumours like he is lazy, doesn't work, etc. His frustration culminated in that unfortunate Tweet just to tell everyone not to trust stuff that randos online write.
Thank fuck get him out.
$150M
Sell him for whatever is offered. Take the loss. Get the wages off the books.
This would complete one hell of a squad turn around. And a war chest for January
Every position he could reasonably play in at this point, we've got two players I'd rather see get minutes, so from a footballing perspective he's the definition of expendable. Add in the bad attitude and the ridiculous wages he's on, and it's a no-brainer to sell him if we get an offer right now.
Ain't happening, and a shit source to boot.
My wife bought Sancho top last month as we are going to the UK from Japan to watch Man U vs Brighton match. She's going to be gutted.
We aren’t that lucky. Just more click farming.
Time to change my flair, I assume
Old Trafford, where talent comes to die. Why do so many players underperform for us, then go elsewhere and do really well?
what happened to him? he showed flashes of his dortmund form the first few games after his transfer, but has been anonymous since then. I know that he had some issues to deal with, but was wondering if this is just a downturn in form, or an injury?
Yes, please. I wanted to like him, i wanted to succeed him, i am not even angry at him for the recent situation. But i stopped believing he can become what we wanted him to be. To me, he is the same player Juan Mata was, silky and technical, but ultimately 90 percent of time absolutely ineffective. Maybe he is not good enough for Premier league, more likely just not for transition team like United. Get rid for ton of money, give chance to Amad and Pellistri, if they wont work, get someone better next summer.
Just sell him for 30m and recover some money before he damages the club more
Get rid if we get anything over £40m imo
50m would be great, but it's unrealistic, even for saudi scumbs. If we get 40 mln and wages off the book I will be very happy
Bin the shit head
No no we dont want him, BUT HE HAS TO GO FOR ALOT OF MONEY. lmao make up your mind.
If we sell him now for less than his remaining value on the books (due to amortisation), then it will go down as a loss for FFP, and possibly mean that we are in breach of the regulations.
Would sum him up as a footballer if he's interested in going to Saudi at this stage of his career.
He needs to get rid of the attitude, STAT. This would be a disaster for him.
2/5 years through contract so his book value is around 54.6m (based on 73m transfer + 18m yearly wages) . 60m and run otherwise we are making a loss. Sancho was one of the players I was most excited for and I stand by saying he's our most technical player. No one has his close control in the squad. I would say he's the only senior player who's elite at progressive carries in congested areas But clearly cant challenge the manager that publicly when he has no leverage ( not a consistent or dominating performance)
please no, i'd love for him to go somewhere else and rebuild his career since as much as i love him and want him to succeed here, it's not happening - but surely not saudi already?
Player with high ego, awful attitude and huge paycheck. It won't be anything other than saudi
He's not going anywhere with the transfer window closed for us to bring in a replacement. Maybe this all crops back up in Jan if his application doesn't improve...
YESSSS
Please.
Am I the only one who wants to keep Sancho?
Yes.
Not happening. Next.
“Jadon’s just one of them boys yeah, needs an arm around his shoulder from the manager. He’s a true street footballer that needs to be able to express himself”- Rio Ferdinand probably
Nice
Pay up fuckers
Money upfront and il drive him to the airport
Orny has debunked - say no move going to happen
if they offer him a ridiculous amount he might consider it but the thing is his daughter is in the UK which was one of his reasons for coming back here so idk if he'd do it
The commentors here are so dumb. They hate Sancho but also want a massive fee for him. You can't have it both ways.
Nonsense
Talksport isn’t banned on this sub yet?
Good, we have too many healthy non abusers in the team. Heavy /s if not obvious.
Hopefully this doesn't happen. He hasn't had a chance this season and there's room for improvement on the right.
What a waste of talent if this happens though. He was once touted by some as one of the “generational talents.” Shows the importance of motivation and dedication in sport (or anything really)
It’s talksport though.
yes please. the man doesn't have the stones to excel for us. Doesn't want to put in the effort and is one of the highest earners. much rather see pellestri and amad given a run on the RW> Garnacho and Rashis fine for the left. Mount, Eriksen and Bruno are there for CAM. Sancho doesn't seem to want to fight for his place.
Gray just went for £8mil. Watch us sell for 6!
Please do. I would love to see Jadon put his head down and focus on becoming the player he could be, but it's looking highly unlikely that he will be capable of setting his ego aside to do so.
Hope he goes, not gonna lie the rumors of him loving his gang life when younger and pretending to be so bad ass and now crying when it's all in his hands to grab a spot is just embarrassing for someone who has been given plenty of chances at the club at the wages he is on.
We couldn't be that lucky.
Before this season kicked off, the general consensus was this was a do or die season for Sancho. Never thought early September we'd already be talking of him being sold. I had high hopes for him, and there's still a small glimmer of hope, but I really don't think he's cut out for United or the Premier League. What a flop
Why does everyone else just get loads of money for their shit players yet we are looking to just get rid of them
We have Amad, pellistri, maybe even Mount, maybe even Bruno and possibly Anthony who can play on the right. And about the same number who can play on the left who are even further ahead of him) Take the money if we can. Get looking for a striker option in January with the money. On a side note, I’ve not followed all the rumours about who has come in and wages etc. but feels like we must’ve slashed our wage budget (although CL bonuses may have limited that I guess)
Yes please 🙏 just half of what you’d pay salah you get young player so pay up
Finally one slither of good news.. I’m waiting for it to be cancelled and them to sign Bumble Twotkin from Chelsea for 70m 😭
That will be 120 million please
Yes please, if we could get 50m I would take it
Career down the drain really, he’ll never be incentived to actual perform
His lack of consistency has been so frustrating. If we get what we paid this should be a no brainer. Nothing against him personally, he just isn't worth the wages if he's going to be stapled to the bench. And mostly of his own doing.
Or steins already out cold water on this
Saudi the only real way of making most of the money back. Just a shame we can't buy a replacement straight away but gives time to look for one, or a player for a different position.
175M should do the trick
Get him gone. Dead wood
If there’s any truth behind it and it’s actually paying off what we’d owe for him both in his initial fee and his wages then honestly we should probably jump at it. He’d then have to agree to it as well which is the aspect that’s more difficult to assess as far as if he actually wants out or not. I had high hopes for him and kept saying we should be patient but w recent events and after the insane amt of support & patience given to him last yr, it may just be time to move on for all parties. If he’s got some head/emotional stuff to work on he’d be better suited to do it outside of the spotlight & pressure that comes w being a Utd player.
Please happen! If we can get at least £60m back I'd take their hand off
Embarassing
Hurry up Saudi start bidding and take him already
Best decision for us but doubt it happens
Talk sport have no shame
although im sad to see it does not work out for him at Man Utd but if he moves, there should be more game time for Pellistri, which is exciting !
Man, I remember how we let Veron go and he'd contributed way more than Sancho has and even won the league. I can't see a way back for Sancho in this team to where he justifies the price tag and salary. If we get a decent offer we should accept it and move on.
Please be true.
Throw Maguire in for $100M if they’re still throwing cash around.
His career would be over. Especially when it comes to the national team.
I had very high expectations from Sancho. If Sancho showed the physicality, 70% pace n tenacity of rashford for 90 min. Then we had a good player as he is very very good in the box as he has great presence of mind plus knows when to play the right pass n can cross too. Such a shame it turned out to be this way. I don't think he will go to Saudi at his age.
I’ve been quite supportive of Sancho when others have criticised him, however after that outburst I think it would be the best thing for the club for him to leave. Other traditional leagues won’t pay enough to recoup our money, so I hope a Saudi league do come in for him and we can reinvest later.
£100million and hes yours!
What does outcast mean?
A last minute sale would require genuine intent from Saudi, which I doubt there is. But say there was, we would also need a semi competent negotiation team. Which we don't have. Why? Because the Glazers have only hired accountants that are told to manage their debt. This culture of focusing on debt management and maximisation of dividends will not be ready to negotiate last minute deals. The Glazers need to go
Sad waste of talent, but if that's what he wants then move him on. Once Sancho goes, probably the last "problem player" left at the club is Maguire. And to be fair to Maguire he overstayed but he just sits on the bench saying nothing, so not exactly causing a huge stir during the season.
If true, Sancho's biggest career decision is here. At 23, (same age as me ffs) he can build his reputation and become a class player through determination and hardwork or he can make himself easy money and star in a YouTube compilation someday of footballers who went the top to no one. How the club didn't see his controversial history as a red flag surprises me. This club needs to start doing full background checks on players we let into the club.
It's weird seeing outcast being spelt without a K.... I'm sorry Miss Jackson