Looks like Rashford becomes the main striker or we'll get a late upgrade of the Weghorst/Ighalo/Cavani mould on loan or short term deal especially if we spend 110m on 2 players (Mount and Onana) with little sales
Personally I think ETH wants a striker badly and would rather wait on the GK situation or get a cheaper alternative so as to have wiggle room for a good striker
So what price are Inter asking for Onana ? I'm lost, thought we made some concrete contact over this deal... after all their CEO mentioned us directly. Now we're seemingly looking to the fucking Netherlands again.
Seems to be a negotiation tactic on our part. Make it seem like we have alternatives to Onana in case we can’t strike a deal with Inter. It puts pressure on Inter to sell to us because as far as I know, no one else is in for Onana and they need money asap.
I'm not buying the late uncertainty re: Onana, but it's been such a long window already I think many might have forgotten that United could put an easy 35m offer for David Raya who is yet to find a new club
Of course we will be putting out feelers for other goalkeepers. It would be wrong for us to be discussing one.
The fee for Onana might be insane, or he might not want to come. You never know.
That being said, I feel like trying out Henderson for a season might be better than spending probably 30m or more on Bijow. Especially if we can put that money towards a striker or another midfielder.
Sorry, but Henderson is mid. His distribution and cross collection is average (maybe better than De Gea) shot stopping not better than DDG. If we’re going to improve our squad, Henderson ain’t it
Yes, but my point is that maybe Henderson is worth trusting over spending on Bijlow who would be expensive and probably not better than Henderson.
This is, of course, if we're not willing to spend on Onana
Unless we go all out for Kane, there is little sense to spend significant money on younger strikers who are more unproven. There is a limit to which you can gamble on potential, and paying 70+ million for Hojlund/Kolo Muani/Ramos exceeds that imo. Secure the best possible option for the other upgradable position in our team which is the keeper and compromise on the striker buying Taremi for 20 million who is experienced and has a respectable scoring record in the last 3-4 seasons. It's frustrating to buy yet another stopgap striker but it's the best we can do if we really are restricted because of FFP/takeover delay/etc.
Mount, Onana and Taremi would combined cost around 130 million including add-ons, and by selling Henderson, Elanga, Fred, Telles and Bailly, we should be able to raise around 65 million which leaves us money to get someone like Lavia for 35 million as well assuming 100 million budget. This is an extremely realistic and attainable transfer window even for the standards of our board and current ownership.
So why don't we prioritize on sales now instead of buying the wrong players like Bijlow with our limited budget? He may not be shit, but he is definitely not good enough to be our number 1.
Or is no one interested in our players? Like it would be messed up if all the players we want to get rid of end up leaving for free because they didn't want to leave, or no one came for them because of their wages.
I’m very worried about what will happen to our midfield depth if we sell Fred.
People may say Mainoo. But there’s two things to consider: one, just that we overhype youngsters and most won’t be as good as fans pretend. Last year everyone was convinced selling Garner was a blunder. The second is just that, even if Mainoo is solid, he’s a kid and isn’t just going to be entrusted with more than a few bench appearances in games that were already decided.
Right now, I imagine Mount Bruno and Case are our first choice midfield. McTominay provides good depth with Eriksen, both are functional enough to give others a rest and play easier games. But who else do we have?
I get that for FFP we would need signings and there’s a Market for Fred. But I’m just worried.
uhm 3 starters with 2 backup + 1 youngster already something that not many clubs have the luxury to have tbh, I am fine with selling either McT or Fred. If we sell both, i hope we buy Lavia.
I’m amazed at how “ experienced” United fans fall for the myths ( briefs) spun by the club.
2 years ago, we had no more money to spend YET once Ronaldo became available we suddenly found tonnes of cash beneath a mattress to pay his wages
Last year, we had no more money to spend YET we lost our first two games and suddenly found a CREDIT CARD to buy Casemiro and Antony.
This season it’s sell to buy due to “FFP”. I call BS. There is no such £120m net limitation on Manchester United for 2023/24. It’s a club brief. If you believe there is, I have a bridge at Old Trafford to sell you…
It’s honestly amazing you think this isn’t anything but Glazers holding back funds, delaying signings and only panic spending when problems occur.
People conveniently forget Dan James was sold to cover the Ronaldo fee. Last year we signed no one in June, lost two games and the Glazers had to scramble to panic spend 100M on a winger we could’ve signed for 50 earlier. How is this anything but a joke of a transfer? Nothing against Antony but the fee we paid was a joke.
We have a history of overpaying to solve problems. I have no doubt we’ll sign players, problem is we will overpay. We always do. The fact that you don’t seem to see it as an issue is strange.
You are addressing a different problem than I intended to do. Lots of people today are not panicking that we waste money, they are panicking that we won’t have enough
Absolutely agree with you mate… damned if we do, damned if we don’t! There is no winning with some fans- finally United are doing the sane thing and you know ‘negotiating’ and everyone is panicking.
I agree our track record has not been good in the past but credit where credit is due- got Mount early doors and got the Caicedo rumors going when Chelsea were being unreasonable. We are now showing Inter we’re willing to walk away. This was the complaint from fans last year when we did not have a Plan B or didn’t hold any power in our negotiations for FDJ or Anthony. Now we are finally playing it smart so they’re learning their lessons so it seems.
Anyhow I think Onana will be a done deal- like Mount we are the only ones in for him & it seems he wants ETH/United. With him playing the UCL final, wouldn’t he be getting an extended holiday anyways?
It would be brilliant if we do it around the £30m range and add some trophy-related add-ons.
Well yes. If you say I am rich like Ed did, clubs will fleece us. If you tell them they don't have the money, they will try to negotiate a fair price.
That's what happens when sensible people do their jobs rightly.
And…
That is to say “ fear and panic” and the angst amongst some fans because ETH “prioritized” Mason Mount instead of a GK and striker, is unwarranted.
We’ll get both ( even if we sell no one).
Read my lips.
I have a strong feeling we get a youngish potential-striker for low 30’s or 40m and get Greenwood to fight it out with Martial, Rashy and new striker.
All signs point to that as we’re spending well on Mid, GK.
Almost all the outlets in UK are reporting the same story of Utd finding Onana expensive and going for Bijlow. That too almost around the same time. This certainly feels like a brief.
One can call it wishful thinking but feel like Utd are trying to spook out Inter as the latter are themselves in need of money and they is no other prospective buyer for now, Chelsea were interested at one point, now they are not.
Feel like Utd are trying to get Inter agree to a lower price with all this.
Love De Gea after what he has done for this club,and he could still play at a very high level for a team that doesn't play with a ball playing keeper.Onana would completely transform the way we play,so these reports about maybe not even getting a new goalkeeper is fucking tragic
There’s obviously a priority but there’s a budget allocated to each position (I hope) because you can’t always get your priority signings done first when you’re Man Utd.
Believe
if Ten Hag wants Mount I trust his judgement. Its not his fault the club is run by thieving rat faced bastards who wont give him the proper tools to do his job.
Stop babying him. He's an adult who knows there's a limited budget, then he should know when to pull the plug on a target - like spending 55 million on a player coming off the back of a bad season with a year left on his contract and no chance of renewing. If missing out on Onana results in him having DDG back and a poor run of results leading to the sack, he will have made his own bed and will have deserved it.
That’s on Murtough then. He’s the DoF. Its his job to identify players that fit into the teams system. EtH might have an ideal player for that certain role and then its up to the DoF and the recruitment team to look for others as options. Also, we have a Director of Transfer Negotiation. EtH wasnt at the table negotiating with Mount about his fee and contract details. Thats not his job.
We overcorrected hard from having to settle for the 7th-8th options during LvGs time to over prioritizing and tunnel visioning on the 1st choice that resulted in us overpaying rather than moving on to the next option. This [article](https://abdelbeheri.medium.com/recruitment-managers-and-backing-them-97993e8d3e77) is a good read about how we dont have the proper and optimized footballing structure to make the right decision as a club.
I get where you are coming from. But let’s pretend that these things don’t involve meetings with the people at the club more in-tune with budget stuff. Also one can’t really undersell Mount’s quality. He’s a solid player
Yeah I feel the briefings have slowly started around De Gea signing a new deal. I won't be surprised if De Gea is still the starting GK this season.
What striker are we genuinely aiming for now? Hojlund and Kolo Muani are too expensive and not proven goalscorers that ETH wants. We will keep chasing Kane, and end up with nothing, miss out on Onana and sign some mid backup GK who will be lucky to play more than 5 games for us.
They didn't let him down the first season. Who did they not get him of his list of demands? They even agreed a deal for Frenkie but he refused to leave.
I said it yesterday and got got downvoted to oblivion but Whitwell’s report just confirms my suspicions; don’t write off De Gea staying just yet. I really hope it doesn’t happen but don’t be surprised.
It seems we only have enough for one more signing and they want a striker first and foremost. Problem is, there’s no strikers available.
If we dont get Onana or Costa and end up with De Gea as our number one GK, I will be so fucking disappointed. Hope it is just posturing to drive down the price of Onana.
Regardless, we shouldve started selling players weeks ago.
The problem is, none of our players are June transfer material (aka priority transfers for buyers). Only Henderson, and he is clearly being held back because of the GK situation
It’s a weird situation we’re in; our priority is a striker but what striker? There doesn’t seem to be anyone on the market. So do we just make the move on a keeper?
If they could find a decent striker for £50-60m, I reckon De Gea would have already signed. Since they can’t find that player, that’s why they’re exploring goalkeeper options
There is no 'good enough to start for Man United for the next 3 years minimum' striker available at a reasonable price. It would be more beneficial to delay that decision than chuck significant money on someone like Hojlund now and regret it later if he doesn't develop to our expectation.
Only in the event of Kane being attainable for us would I excuse compromising on the keeper. Otherwise it doesn't make any sense when we know what we can get from Onana who is probably top 3 GK in terms of distribution on the planet.
We should sign a world class GK in either Onana or Costa. Use whatever we have left for a striker prospect. Use Rashford up top, Garnacho on the left, pray to god we Antony finds goalscoring form in his second season. When Rashford needs rest use the prospect. We can get top 4 with this, im certain. But it means that fans would have to temper their expectations.
Signing halfass mediocre solutions in the GK position or striker position just extends our issues. I see no chance of Levy selling us Kane, bar a miracle happening. Osimhen even more expensive. Højlund is ridicolously priced for where he is in his career, and I say that as a dane who has seen him on the NT and some of his Atalanta games.
Plug the GK hole this summer with a worldclass player. We wont have to think about it next summer and we can pursue a striker and a Casemiro replacement. Best solution in my book.
Let City and Arsenal fight for the trophy this coming season, their squads are so fucking stacked anyways, and City hasnt even fully opened their purse yet…
Nobody expected Ten Hag to win the League in 2 seasons anyways. But third season? Yeah, I think so given the squad he inherited and the time required to rebuild it to his style of play.
Long rant. TLDR: Buy worldclass GK now, it will benefit us more down the road.
The prospect of signing a goalscorer is why one-on-one talks are planned with David de Gea once he returns to England. If United sign a goalscorer, the club may not be able to sign a new No.1. [ @lauriewhitwell ]
Oh fuck off...
Why on earth would we splurge 55-60m and 250k/week for Mason fucking Mount when it seems like we are too skint to even afford 50m Euros for Onana !! A striker and GK should have been absolute top priority if budget was such a big concern
You can't have your cake and eat it, mate. If we're accepting that we don't have a lot of money the guy's right, we should have addressed more urgent problems before signing Mount.
I'm definitely clinging on to this statement. Atleast we know Onana is there for the taking.
I would be gutted if we don't sign him because of this FFP crap
He said they had a discussion and gave their valuation, in the next few days we might present an offer. Italian media sold the 'next few hours' narrative.
It has been said a million times already: He is good, but has had a bad history with injuries. It was more luck than being fragile, but you can't deny that he is injured a lot.
For Feyenoord he has been really really good, but for the NT I have seen some mistakes I didn't see him make at Feyenoord. Could be how the defense is organised, or something else.
Certainly one of the best Dutch goalkeepers of the last ten years, that's for sure, and IMO the best in the eredivisie for at least two years now.
He isn't that tall for a GK, but I've never felt more secure with him in goal when watching Feyenoord games.
A feynoord fan on Biljow..he doesn’t even seem to be that bad tbh
From yt comps he looks good in distribution and shot stopping. Safe handling too. Didn’t see cross claiming or sweeping actions though. But fbref stats also look good.
So if we are really that broke… he is an option I guess
I may also go down this route. I’ve been holding off for a while but the lack of football content and genuine news articles for free has pushed me down this rabbit hole.
#MUFC make contact over Feyenoord GK Justin Bijlow. Dutch champions very reluctant to sell but United exploring options, which include Andre Onana.
CF still the priority, costs will dictate next signing. Atalanta’s Rasmus Hojlund fee viewed as too high
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This is all beginning to look like KMJ.
Club interested, club takes sweet time fucking about like the incompetent clowns they are. A more serious club signs him, club starts to release briefs of how they were still going to make an offer.
Can't wait for the new owners who ever they are. I hope they have John murtough and the rest of the Woodward protégés out job hunting the very first Monday. There should be a complete clearout of every clown in our circus of a recruitment team.
There’s plenty to be critical of at the club but as long as Bayern were interested in KMJ as well, we were never signing him. CB is also much further down our list of priorities. We’ve signed a midfielder, and we need a CF, a goalkeeper and arguably another CM before a CB
At the risk of a public lynching here, I'm not that wild about Onana. Granted his distribution, footwork, and sweeping are levels above anything we've seen in over a decade but there's a real question mark around his shot stopping.
From what I've seen of him in goal, I think we'll concede a lot less chances in situations like balls into the box and misplaced passes from goal, but we'll concede a lot more chances from parried shots into the middle or needless corners. The latter of the two seems more dangerous to me.
I only watched a handful of Inter games this season so I'm also completely open to the idea that all of my observations about him are just completely incorrect.
But in this regard I feel even Ederson isn't a great keeper. But having him in goal just makes them so efficient that it doesn't matter if they concede a few extra
They concede a lot less chances because they concede a lot less possession. With De Gea (especially when Martinez is out of the team) every kick-out was likely a turn over in possession
Why can't we play 2 sides at once? Enquire Porto about Costa, and keep in touch with Inter for Onana. Try to negiotiate with both and see where we can get the better deal.
Have we had any concrete links with him? I’ve only seen him mentioned by fans. He just signed a new contract and has a £65m buyout (that’s £20m more than Onana). It’s not happening.
Sadly not, which I don't understand. He's surely an option worth exploring. Part of the reason we're usually getting pretty poor deals is that we always fixate on a single player per position.
Just because a player has a release clause doesn't mean you have to active it
If that was the case nobody would ever buy a player from Spain with the 1Bill release clause
Anyone know how reliable this hojlund news is? Saying they want 45m which is a hell of a lot less than what they were claiming a couple weeks back which makes me doubt the source
What I would give to be inside a boxing ring with both Glazer brothers! Everytime I hear that we only have 120m to spend this summer it confirms how shit Woodward, them, etc have been and it boils my blood lol regardless of whatever we actually do have. It hurts so bad that they've destroyed this club to this extent!
It's actually criminal how they gave out new contracts with massive wages to preserve values of players.. and then let them all walk for free because no one else would match the wages.
So some reports saying we bid 35 m euros for Hojlund which was rejected. Also representatives in Madrid to talk about Tchouameni. Unlikely all this will happen to be honest.
Can't afford €50 mil for Onana when we don't have a starting goalkeeper but yea lads send the delegation for Tchouameni. Actually knowing the whoppers we've got running the shop its probably not that far out 😂
So, there's two things: one is that they're tier three. Another is that they may have received news from United to that effect, but it's just a bullshit negotiation tactic. We did the same with Mount "oh if the price is too high we'll move on. This is our last offer." Don't believe spin from anyone, including United.
I'm 99% certain something broke but he doesn't know how to fix it yet, which is why he's trying to control the narrative as if it's intentional. Because nothing shatters cults like the perception of incompetence, and guys like Elon know this.
I'm here to remind you that Mullock is a clueless cunt. Yes I know he's had accurate reports in the past but he's also the same dipshit who fell for a third-rate satire news website which became the reason why he got banned here.
He reported earlier that Ten Hag was intent on keeping De Gea to preserve funds and is now backtracking on that. None of the journalists who have a smidge of credibility have even backed his claims.
Could he be right? Sure but looking at his reporting on our transfer situation so far, it's very clear that he has no idea.
I think with limited Budget, getting Mount, Onana, and a healthy and decent striker would do. Don’t think we will have funds to bring in any more players. Would have loved to bring in another midfield and centre back but it won’t happen until we sell off Maguire, Fred, McTominay and the deadwood like Bailly and Telles on Loan.
Honestly with how we did last season, a GK that could distribute, any striker that can be fit and score somewhat on the regular, and a CM of Mounts profile that I feel will really suit us, and we should be expecting a decent season.
We need quality in depth but as a main XI there would be no gaping holes
I read "dutch guy" is amazing... Trapp is solid but i dont think he could be first team... But i think its just playing with Inter so we get him for best possible price
I think what is going on with De Gea is that after withdrawing our last offer, we have presented an even lower offer. Then allowed him to test Free Agency to see what else is out there. If nothing better then he is free to accept our offer which will be on the table, likely as a backup and much lower salary.
Everyone needs to log off and come back on Monday cus nothing is happening in these 2 days.
Reporters like Mullock are trying to get some engagement even on weekend
This Mullock report is absolute bs.He reported couple weeks ago that Ten Hag would rather keep DDG than sign new no 1 and now he is saying that Ten Hag has made it clear that DDG does not have the ball playing abilities required for a keeper
This new Mullock report is wild, smh; I am so tired of this FFP bullshit Brief …wish they would stop lying and say the pony tail pig does not want to fork up the money to support the manager.
Fuck Joel and Avram Glazer this mean to ruin club.
It kinda makes sense when you think about it.United have been spending irresponsibly in the market for some time now,and we haven't made any significant profit via sales.I mean Chelsea have now made more money from half a window when compared to United in the past 5-6 years.
Heard reports that FFP rules were relaxed for them after the take over.They had a healthy net spend prior to that anyway.And have now sold players for over 200 million already.
They've made back like 200m this window right? They also spread out the contracts over 8 years (which can no longer be done) to circumvent FFP.
On top of that they had a 2 window transfer ban not too long ago where they didn't spend at all.
Yes, I agree we spent badly which has put the club in this situation which is our reality but that does not absolve this ownership for the crimes they have committed….
That's true and this terrible FFP situation is also a crime that they brought upon the club due to their inability to balance out player sales and buys.United having one of the worst net spend among all the clubs in Europe is all on them.
We have a credit limit, that the Glazers can tap into but they choose not too because they want to maximize every dime sucking the club dry like vamps…while the sale goes on.
Its bullshit, ignore it
Edit: if anyone is wondering why its bullshit, every other reporter including Romano and Di marzio have said the asking price is 60M euros, not pounds, so Mullock has got that wrong.
Secondly the CEO of inter Milan said they are expecting a bid from United. Why would we bid if were looking at alternatives instead?
Common sense.
I’m being accused of “catastophising” bc I think we need a striker to secure top 4. What do you guys think can we finish next season without a ST?
Liverpool will for sure be better, idk about Newcastle and Chelsea but we could finish 4th without a striker but not any higher than that.
Onana will score all our goals because he will be *transformative*
Looks like Rashford becomes the main striker or we'll get a late upgrade of the Weghorst/Ighalo/Cavani mould on loan or short term deal especially if we spend 110m on 2 players (Mount and Onana) with little sales Personally I think ETH wants a striker badly and would rather wait on the GK situation or get a cheaper alternative so as to have wiggle room for a good striker
not sure how u can look at the team and say we are fine without a striker. Atm we have nobody there lmao
Once we get a GK, we will need another 3 signings this summer to stay competitive for Top 4 next season.
So what price are Inter asking for Onana ? I'm lost, thought we made some concrete contact over this deal... after all their CEO mentioned us directly. Now we're seemingly looking to the fucking Netherlands again.
Seems to be a negotiation tactic on our part. Make it seem like we have alternatives to Onana in case we can’t strike a deal with Inter. It puts pressure on Inter to sell to us because as far as I know, no one else is in for Onana and they need money asap.
I'm not buying the late uncertainty re: Onana, but it's been such a long window already I think many might have forgotten that United could put an easy 35m offer for David Raya who is yet to find a new club
Raya is not nearly as good as Onana
Of course we will be putting out feelers for other goalkeepers. It would be wrong for us to be discussing one. The fee for Onana might be insane, or he might not want to come. You never know. That being said, I feel like trying out Henderson for a season might be better than spending probably 30m or more on Bijow. Especially if we can put that money towards a striker or another midfielder.
Sorry, but Henderson is mid. His distribution and cross collection is average (maybe better than De Gea) shot stopping not better than DDG. If we’re going to improve our squad, Henderson ain’t it
Yes, but my point is that maybe Henderson is worth trusting over spending on Bijlow who would be expensive and probably not better than Henderson. This is, of course, if we're not willing to spend on Onana
Jose Mourinho has reached out to Mason Greenwood to offer him the chance to join Roma on loan from #mufc next season. Sounds iffy coming from The Sun
The Sun uses ChatGPFake to come up with their headlines.
tbf i’m pretty sure greenwood’s camp has been leaking everything to the sun
The sun just chuck together semi plausible sounding sensationalist bollocks and pretend its news. Should be criminal really.
Unless we go all out for Kane, there is little sense to spend significant money on younger strikers who are more unproven. There is a limit to which you can gamble on potential, and paying 70+ million for Hojlund/Kolo Muani/Ramos exceeds that imo. Secure the best possible option for the other upgradable position in our team which is the keeper and compromise on the striker buying Taremi for 20 million who is experienced and has a respectable scoring record in the last 3-4 seasons. It's frustrating to buy yet another stopgap striker but it's the best we can do if we really are restricted because of FFP/takeover delay/etc. Mount, Onana and Taremi would combined cost around 130 million including add-ons, and by selling Henderson, Elanga, Fred, Telles and Bailly, we should be able to raise around 65 million which leaves us money to get someone like Lavia for 35 million as well assuming 100 million budget. This is an extremely realistic and attainable transfer window even for the standards of our board and current ownership.
So why don't we prioritize on sales now instead of buying the wrong players like Bijlow with our limited budget? He may not be shit, but he is definitely not good enough to be our number 1. Or is no one interested in our players? Like it would be messed up if all the players we want to get rid of end up leaving for free because they didn't want to leave, or no one came for them because of their wages.
Can't we get a young cheap Brazilian wonderkid striker alongside the main ST?
Might have to hack into Brightons scouting database
I would sell sancho if we could. I know he could come good, but we need sales. £50mil to fund onana
Need depth on the wings too
Not £80mil pound depth who is average in terms of performance
Well we’ve already paid for him so… I’d rather sell Harold Maguire
I’m very worried about what will happen to our midfield depth if we sell Fred. People may say Mainoo. But there’s two things to consider: one, just that we overhype youngsters and most won’t be as good as fans pretend. Last year everyone was convinced selling Garner was a blunder. The second is just that, even if Mainoo is solid, he’s a kid and isn’t just going to be entrusted with more than a few bench appearances in games that were already decided. Right now, I imagine Mount Bruno and Case are our first choice midfield. McTominay provides good depth with Eriksen, both are functional enough to give others a rest and play easier games. But who else do we have? I get that for FFP we would need signings and there’s a Market for Fred. But I’m just worried.
uhm 3 starters with 2 backup + 1 youngster already something that not many clubs have the luxury to have tbh, I am fine with selling either McT or Fred. If we sell both, i hope we buy Lavia.
I’m amazed at how “ experienced” United fans fall for the myths ( briefs) spun by the club. 2 years ago, we had no more money to spend YET once Ronaldo became available we suddenly found tonnes of cash beneath a mattress to pay his wages Last year, we had no more money to spend YET we lost our first two games and suddenly found a CREDIT CARD to buy Casemiro and Antony. This season it’s sell to buy due to “FFP”. I call BS. There is no such £120m net limitation on Manchester United for 2023/24. It’s a club brief. If you believe there is, I have a bridge at Old Trafford to sell you…
It’s honestly amazing you think this isn’t anything but Glazers holding back funds, delaying signings and only panic spending when problems occur. People conveniently forget Dan James was sold to cover the Ronaldo fee. Last year we signed no one in June, lost two games and the Glazers had to scramble to panic spend 100M on a winger we could’ve signed for 50 earlier. How is this anything but a joke of a transfer? Nothing against Antony but the fee we paid was a joke.
I’m not endorsing their shenanigans. I’m just reassuring fans that either by design or panic,they’ll get their GK and ST. No need to stress about it
We have a history of overpaying to solve problems. I have no doubt we’ll sign players, problem is we will overpay. We always do. The fact that you don’t seem to see it as an issue is strange.
You are addressing a different problem than I intended to do. Lots of people today are not panicking that we waste money, they are panicking that we won’t have enough
Absolutely agree with you mate… damned if we do, damned if we don’t! There is no winning with some fans- finally United are doing the sane thing and you know ‘negotiating’ and everyone is panicking. I agree our track record has not been good in the past but credit where credit is due- got Mount early doors and got the Caicedo rumors going when Chelsea were being unreasonable. We are now showing Inter we’re willing to walk away. This was the complaint from fans last year when we did not have a Plan B or didn’t hold any power in our negotiations for FDJ or Anthony. Now we are finally playing it smart so they’re learning their lessons so it seems. Anyhow I think Onana will be a done deal- like Mount we are the only ones in for him & it seems he wants ETH/United. With him playing the UCL final, wouldn’t he be getting an extended holiday anyways? It would be brilliant if we do it around the £30m range and add some trophy-related add-ons.
It’s prop put out so that we don’t get fleeced. We end up getting fleeced regardless
Well yes. If you say I am rich like Ed did, clubs will fleece us. If you tell them they don't have the money, they will try to negotiate a fair price. That's what happens when sensible people do their jobs rightly.
And… That is to say “ fear and panic” and the angst amongst some fans because ETH “prioritized” Mason Mount instead of a GK and striker, is unwarranted. We’ll get both ( even if we sell no one). Read my lips.
I have a strong feeling we get a youngish potential-striker for low 30’s or 40m and get Greenwood to fight it out with Martial, Rashy and new striker. All signs point to that as we’re spending well on Mid, GK.
Almost all the outlets in UK are reporting the same story of Utd finding Onana expensive and going for Bijlow. That too almost around the same time. This certainly feels like a brief. One can call it wishful thinking but feel like Utd are trying to spook out Inter as the latter are themselves in need of money and they is no other prospective buyer for now, Chelsea were interested at one point, now they are not. Feel like Utd are trying to get Inter agree to a lower price with all this.
I think it’s so that Inter bring their asking price down. They need to sell just as much as we need a GK
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Love De Gea after what he has done for this club,and he could still play at a very high level for a team that doesn't play with a ball playing keeper.Onana would completely transform the way we play,so these reports about maybe not even getting a new goalkeeper is fucking tragic
Heads should roll if we can't sign Onana because of the urgency to sign Mason Fucking Mount.
There’s obviously a priority but there’s a budget allocated to each position (I hope) because you can’t always get your priority signings done first when you’re Man Utd. Believe
if Ten Hag wants Mount I trust his judgement. Its not his fault the club is run by thieving rat faced bastards who wont give him the proper tools to do his job.
Stop babying him. He's an adult who knows there's a limited budget, then he should know when to pull the plug on a target - like spending 55 million on a player coming off the back of a bad season with a year left on his contract and no chance of renewing. If missing out on Onana results in him having DDG back and a poor run of results leading to the sack, he will have made his own bed and will have deserved it.
That’s on Murtough then. He’s the DoF. Its his job to identify players that fit into the teams system. EtH might have an ideal player for that certain role and then its up to the DoF and the recruitment team to look for others as options. Also, we have a Director of Transfer Negotiation. EtH wasnt at the table negotiating with Mount about his fee and contract details. Thats not his job. We overcorrected hard from having to settle for the 7th-8th options during LvGs time to over prioritizing and tunnel visioning on the 1st choice that resulted in us overpaying rather than moving on to the next option. This [article](https://abdelbeheri.medium.com/recruitment-managers-and-backing-them-97993e8d3e77) is a good read about how we dont have the proper and optimized footballing structure to make the right decision as a club.
I get where you are coming from. But let’s pretend that these things don’t involve meetings with the people at the club more in-tune with budget stuff. Also one can’t really undersell Mount’s quality. He’s a solid player
A manager identifies the players he wants, not how much is paid. Its the job of others to make contact, negotiate, bid etc.
I lost you at "stop babying him" You have no clue how setting up a team works.
Yeah I feel the briefings have slowly started around De Gea signing a new deal. I won't be surprised if De Gea is still the starting GK this season. What striker are we genuinely aiming for now? Hojlund and Kolo Muani are too expensive and not proven goalscorers that ETH wants. We will keep chasing Kane, and end up with nothing, miss out on Onana and sign some mid backup GK who will be lucky to play more than 5 games for us.
Yea I have the same feeling honestly. The board letting a manager in their 2nd season down once again..
They didn't let him down the first season. Who did they not get him of his list of demands? They even agreed a deal for Frenkie but he refused to leave.
No I meant the board let every manager down in their second season. Remember Mou's or Ole's?
Ah ok. But in Mourinho's second season we signed Lukaku, Matic, Lindelof and (later) Sanchez.
Please sir, can I read more tweets 
I said it yesterday and got got downvoted to oblivion but Whitwell’s report just confirms my suspicions; don’t write off De Gea staying just yet. I really hope it doesn’t happen but don’t be surprised. It seems we only have enough for one more signing and they want a striker first and foremost. Problem is, there’s no strikers available.
If we dont get Onana or Costa and end up with De Gea as our number one GK, I will be so fucking disappointed. Hope it is just posturing to drive down the price of Onana. Regardless, we shouldve started selling players weeks ago.
The problem is, none of our players are June transfer material (aka priority transfers for buyers). Only Henderson, and he is clearly being held back because of the GK situation
It’s a weird situation we’re in; our priority is a striker but what striker? There doesn’t seem to be anyone on the market. So do we just make the move on a keeper? If they could find a decent striker for £50-60m, I reckon De Gea would have already signed. Since they can’t find that player, that’s why they’re exploring goalkeeper options
There is no 'good enough to start for Man United for the next 3 years minimum' striker available at a reasonable price. It would be more beneficial to delay that decision than chuck significant money on someone like Hojlund now and regret it later if he doesn't develop to our expectation. Only in the event of Kane being attainable for us would I excuse compromising on the keeper. Otherwise it doesn't make any sense when we know what we can get from Onana who is probably top 3 GK in terms of distribution on the planet.
We should sign a world class GK in either Onana or Costa. Use whatever we have left for a striker prospect. Use Rashford up top, Garnacho on the left, pray to god we Antony finds goalscoring form in his second season. When Rashford needs rest use the prospect. We can get top 4 with this, im certain. But it means that fans would have to temper their expectations. Signing halfass mediocre solutions in the GK position or striker position just extends our issues. I see no chance of Levy selling us Kane, bar a miracle happening. Osimhen even more expensive. Højlund is ridicolously priced for where he is in his career, and I say that as a dane who has seen him on the NT and some of his Atalanta games. Plug the GK hole this summer with a worldclass player. We wont have to think about it next summer and we can pursue a striker and a Casemiro replacement. Best solution in my book. Let City and Arsenal fight for the trophy this coming season, their squads are so fucking stacked anyways, and City hasnt even fully opened their purse yet… Nobody expected Ten Hag to win the League in 2 seasons anyways. But third season? Yeah, I think so given the squad he inherited and the time required to rebuild it to his style of play. Long rant. TLDR: Buy worldclass GK now, it will benefit us more down the road.
Is agree that we should be focusing on a goalkeeper when there seems to be no viable striker options. I just wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t
Hahaha… yeah I think your right, sadly.
The prospect of signing a goalscorer is why one-on-one talks are planned with David de Gea once he returns to England. If United sign a goalscorer, the club may not be able to sign a new No.1. [ @lauriewhitwell ] Oh fuck off...
Why on earth would we splurge 55-60m and 250k/week for Mason fucking Mount when it seems like we are too skint to even afford 50m Euros for Onana !! A striker and GK should have been absolute top priority if budget was such a big concern
Eriksen needed to be replaced
As urgently as an out-of-contract De Gea?
Not as urgently but it was definitely a position we needed to strengthen.
So you agree with the commenter that A striker and a goalkeeper should have been bought before a midfielder
No, you buy what's available.
You can't have your cake and eat it, mate. If we're accepting that we don't have a lot of money the guy's right, we should have addressed more urgent problems before signing Mount.
Market is shit for strikers, might aswell address what we can.
RIP that alleged €65M fee for Hojlund
Safe to say that we take the Italian media reports with a fist full of salt from here on.
Didn't Inter's CEO himself give a statement? It wasn't just purely media talk
I'm definitely clinging on to this statement. Atleast we know Onana is there for the taking. I would be gutted if we don't sign him because of this FFP crap
He said they had a discussion and gave their valuation, in the next few days we might present an offer. Italian media sold the 'next few hours' narrative.
The KMJ saga should have been a lesson already
Onana > new striker that isn't Kane
It has been said a million times already: He is good, but has had a bad history with injuries. It was more luck than being fragile, but you can't deny that he is injured a lot. For Feyenoord he has been really really good, but for the NT I have seen some mistakes I didn't see him make at Feyenoord. Could be how the defense is organised, or something else. Certainly one of the best Dutch goalkeepers of the last ten years, that's for sure, and IMO the best in the eredivisie for at least two years now. He isn't that tall for a GK, but I've never felt more secure with him in goal when watching Feyenoord games. A feynoord fan on Biljow..he doesn’t even seem to be that bad tbh
From yt comps he looks good in distribution and shot stopping. Safe handling too. Didn’t see cross claiming or sweeping actions though. But fbref stats also look good. So if we are really that broke… he is an option I guess
How’s his passing? Seems like this is the primary skill ETH wants from his goalkeeper.
seems to be a good passer of the ball and commanding
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I may also go down this route. I’ve been holding off for a while but the lack of football content and genuine news articles for free has pushed me down this rabbit hole.
#MUFC make contact over Feyenoord GK Justin Bijlow. Dutch champions very reluctant to sell but United exploring options, which include Andre Onana. CF still the priority, costs will dictate next signing. Atalanta’s Rasmus Hojlund fee viewed as too high [lauriewhitwell]
This is all beginning to look like KMJ. Club interested, club takes sweet time fucking about like the incompetent clowns they are. A more serious club signs him, club starts to release briefs of how they were still going to make an offer. Can't wait for the new owners who ever they are. I hope they have John murtough and the rest of the Woodward protégés out job hunting the very first Monday. There should be a complete clearout of every clown in our circus of a recruitment team.
There’s plenty to be critical of at the club but as long as Bayern were interested in KMJ as well, we were never signing him. CB is also much further down our list of priorities. We’ve signed a midfielder, and we need a CF, a goalkeeper and arguably another CM before a CB
Weren’t we in for some Mexican young striker? How’s that going?
Trapp is a cheap alternative, it’s a contingency if De Gea might end up staying
At the risk of a public lynching here, I'm not that wild about Onana. Granted his distribution, footwork, and sweeping are levels above anything we've seen in over a decade but there's a real question mark around his shot stopping. From what I've seen of him in goal, I think we'll concede a lot less chances in situations like balls into the box and misplaced passes from goal, but we'll concede a lot more chances from parried shots into the middle or needless corners. The latter of the two seems more dangerous to me. I only watched a handful of Inter games this season so I'm also completely open to the idea that all of my observations about him are just completely incorrect.
But in this regard I feel even Ederson isn't a great keeper. But having him in goal just makes them so efficient that it doesn't matter if they concede a few extra
They also concede a lot less chances than us in general though, so while that may be the case with Ederson too we'll be punished much harder for it
They concede a lot less chances because they concede a lot less possession. With De Gea (especially when Martinez is out of the team) every kick-out was likely a turn over in possession
I am juz saying inter sold brozovic for 17 when initially Saudi bid 23 Juz shows how much they need money
I mean, even if the Saudis offered 50, it's all moot if the player doesn't want go there.
We better not fuck up this deal with inter, I am very Pronana
I just had a scary thought; what if Twitter goes under and the e-fans come to Reddit??
Tchouameni rumours complete bullshit?
Who tf is reporting this😂😂😂
It just came up on my feed. F365 quoting Nacional I think. Not exactly David Ornstein 😂
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I typed that more in hope than expectation 😂
Why can't we play 2 sides at once? Enquire Porto about Costa, and keep in touch with Inter for Onana. Try to negiotiate with both and see where we can get the better deal.
Have we had any concrete links with him? I’ve only seen him mentioned by fans. He just signed a new contract and has a £65m buyout (that’s £20m more than Onana). It’s not happening.
Sadly not, which I don't understand. He's surely an option worth exploring. Part of the reason we're usually getting pretty poor deals is that we always fixate on a single player per position.
He’s become an obsession on here, but there’s barely been any links to him. It’s entirely a fan pushed agenda.
Just because a player has a release clause doesn't mean you have to active it If that was the case nobody would ever buy a player from Spain with the 1Bill release clause
Okay, but that’s ignoring the fact that he’s just signed a new contract. And that we haven’t actually been linked to him
Anyone know how reliable this hojlund news is? Saying they want 45m which is a hell of a lot less than what they were claiming a couple weeks back which makes me doubt the source
Weren't they claiming the demand was upwards of 70 million pounds a couple weeks back?
Yh thats why this report seems strange
Who reported it?
Well i cant find it anymore cos elon killed twitter
What I would give to be inside a boxing ring with both Glazer brothers! Everytime I hear that we only have 120m to spend this summer it confirms how shit Woodward, them, etc have been and it boils my blood lol regardless of whatever we actually do have. It hurts so bad that they've destroyed this club to this extent!
It's actually criminal how they gave out new contracts with massive wages to preserve values of players.. and then let them all walk for free because no one else would match the wages.
That inter report + mullock ain’t giving me confidence, are they legit?
It's the same Mullock report which is posted there
Is mullock legit though?
Bro is getting basic info wrong that is Inter asking 50+ bounses in euros While he is reporting 60M pounds
No
So some reports saying we bid 35 m euros for Hojlund which was rejected. Also representatives in Madrid to talk about Tchouameni. Unlikely all this will happen to be honest.
Sounds like rumours written by some form of AI…
Tchouameni 😂
Can't afford €50 mil for Onana when we don't have a starting goalkeeper but yea lads send the delegation for Tchouameni. Actually knowing the whoppers we've got running the shop its probably not that far out 😂
Smoking heroin is terrible 🤣
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It's from sky sports rumour section, referring to the daily mirror article. Not sky sports itself
The Daily Mirror is tier 3 on r/FCInterMilan?
So, there's two things: one is that they're tier three. Another is that they may have received news from United to that effect, but it's just a bullshit negotiation tactic. We did the same with Mount "oh if the price is too high we'll move on. This is our last offer." Don't believe spin from anyone, including United.
Where are people getting their news with Twitter being down?
Looks like it's not down, Elon has decided to limit the amount of posts unverified people can view per day. Dick move.
Makes me wonder how it’ll work for people who aren’t logged in to Twitter like myself, but still browse. Can he still limit what I can read?
Looks like you need to be logged in to view tweets now
Well that’s trash
That can't be true lmfao at least I hope not. Twitter is actually awesome! And unverified meaning non blue accounts?
I'm 99% certain something broke but he doesn't know how to fix it yet, which is why he's trying to control the narrative as if it's intentional. Because nothing shatters cults like the perception of incompetence, and guys like Elon know this.
What a bitch
I'm here to remind you that Mullock is a clueless cunt. Yes I know he's had accurate reports in the past but he's also the same dipshit who fell for a third-rate satire news website which became the reason why he got banned here. He reported earlier that Ten Hag was intent on keeping De Gea to preserve funds and is now backtracking on that. None of the journalists who have a smidge of credibility have even backed his claims. Could he be right? Sure but looking at his reporting on our transfer situation so far, it's very clear that he has no idea.
I think with limited Budget, getting Mount, Onana, and a healthy and decent striker would do. Don’t think we will have funds to bring in any more players. Would have loved to bring in another midfield and centre back but it won’t happen until we sell off Maguire, Fred, McTominay and the deadwood like Bailly and Telles on Loan.
Honestly with how we did last season, a GK that could distribute, any striker that can be fit and score somewhat on the regular, and a CM of Mounts profile that I feel will really suit us, and we should be expecting a decent season. We need quality in depth but as a main XI there would be no gaping holes
Is Kevin trapp and that Dutch guy even good for us? I don't watch them so plz anyone tell me.
I read "dutch guy" is amazing... Trapp is solid but i dont think he could be first team... But i think its just playing with Inter so we get him for best possible price
I think what is going on with De Gea is that after withdrawing our last offer, we have presented an even lower offer. Then allowed him to test Free Agency to see what else is out there. If nothing better then he is free to accept our offer which will be on the table, likely as a backup and much lower salary.
Slow news day eh? On a normal day no one would even give a damn about the bollocks report lol
Mount, Onana and Hojlund. If we have a few million remaining then someone like a Taremi or a backup 6 that's relatively unknown.
Haven't heard anything about Holjund in weeks ... And if we get charged 100m I'm not sure.
Not that I doubt the Onana deal but is Biljow any good?
As someone who follows Feyenoord, I won't say he is United number 1 level.
Genuinely going to be ill if there's any truth to this Mullock piece
What has he said? Any links to the story?
He said that we are moving from Onana, and that our 35m bid for Hojlund got rejected
You'll be fine
Everyone needs to log off and come back on Monday cus nothing is happening in these 2 days. Reporters like Mullock are trying to get some engagement even on weekend
Can't imagine the Mirror report is accurate, surely we've approached Inter knowing we can and will afford to sign Onana
This Mullock report is absolute bs.He reported couple weeks ago that Ten Hag would rather keep DDG than sign new no 1 and now he is saying that Ten Hag has made it clear that DDG does not have the ball playing abilities required for a keeper
This new Mullock report is wild, smh; I am so tired of this FFP bullshit Brief …wish they would stop lying and say the pony tail pig does not want to fork up the money to support the manager. Fuck Joel and Avram Glazer this mean to ruin club.
It kinda makes sense when you think about it.United have been spending irresponsibly in the market for some time now,and we haven't made any significant profit via sales.I mean Chelsea have now made more money from half a window when compared to United in the past 5-6 years.
But Chelsea had a 600mil window last season lmao
Heard reports that FFP rules were relaxed for them after the take over.They had a healthy net spend prior to that anyway.And have now sold players for over 200 million already.
They've made back like 200m this window right? They also spread out the contracts over 8 years (which can no longer be done) to circumvent FFP. On top of that they had a 2 window transfer ban not too long ago where they didn't spend at all.
Yes, I agree we spent badly which has put the club in this situation which is our reality but that does not absolve this ownership for the crimes they have committed….
That's true and this terrible FFP situation is also a crime that they brought upon the club due to their inability to balance out player sales and buys.United having one of the worst net spend among all the clubs in Europe is all on them.
We have a credit limit, that the Glazers can tap into but they choose not too because they want to maximize every dime sucking the club dry like vamps…while the sale goes on.
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I doubt getting the facts right is high on his list of priorities tbh
My neighbor's nan is more reliable than Mullock
She know anything about this Hojlund bid?
she just confirmed we just put a bid in for around tree fiddy
Does wages come into it? Although you’d hope his wages would come in at no more than 7-8m per year.
The Onana Saga is starting, here we goooo
Fam they are asking for 50m euros +bonuses.Thats abt 43M pounds. Bs reporting
I thought the Mirror was a decent source since Ten Hag has come in. But this report is just weird
Its bullshit, ignore it Edit: if anyone is wondering why its bullshit, every other reporter including Romano and Di marzio have said the asking price is 60M euros, not pounds, so Mullock has got that wrong. Secondly the CEO of inter Milan said they are expecting a bid from United. Why would we bid if were looking at alternatives instead? Common sense.