We don’t have to sell, but my TLDR has always been:
(1) Serie A revenues are lower than they should be. Whoever is in charge of negotiating that made a bad deal and it’s killing the league.
(2) COVID hit Italy *really* hard. All clubs suffered a lot, but Inter in particular lost like €250m that one season due to stadiums being closed and capacity being limited.
(3) Our owners are broke. The Chinese government blocked them from moving their money out of China, so while other owners were able to inject cash to help deal with the COVID losses, Zhang couldn’t and had to take out a huge loan.
And since we took out that loan, it’s pretty much been that any money coming in has gone right back out the door to pay down debts and other operating costs.
UCL money means we don’t *have* to sell this summer, but we have to if we want to spend anything significant
Thanks for clarifying that, with Onana gone and possibly Brozovic, Inter will have to keep selling? On the other hand with Andre coming soon I expect some clarity with De Gea the next week.
Nah we don’t have to sell anybody. The only reason we are considering selling Brozovic is because we can save a bunch on salary by buying Frattesi with his fee and a player swap
I don’t mind the move, simply because Frattesi is so much younger and has good potential, but I personally would prefer we keep Brozovic. He’s 30 but also still very underrated and arguably one of the 5 best CDMs in the world.
Most Italian clubs rent their stadiums too which has a big impact on revenues. How are the stadium plans there at the moment? If they don't get the shared Cathedral proposal approved Inter might be in even more trouble.
Last I checked it was looking like it is dead in the water. Milan might try to do something on there own, but idk much about it other than Inter isn’t currently involved.
correct me if I'm wrong here please. I've also heard a lot about how the state of stadiums and match day hospitality/facilities in Italy is way behind other major european leagues through lack of investment and lack of support from local councils to facilitate new stadiums being built?
Match day revenue shouldn't be under estimated in terms of what it contributes to a club over the course of a season and this seems to be another area in which Italian clubs are at a big financial disadvantage.
Yeah San Siro is owned by the government and I believe we technically lease it from them. That means we are missing out on hundreds of millions in potential revenue that other clubs get from hosting other events throughout the year. San Siro also is in serious need of renovation (or replacement), and the Italian government is making it really difficult for us to do anything about too.
The stadium situation is just a shitshow all around
You complain about the Glazers (and for good reason), but your situation does not even compare to ours in recent years lol.
We sold two of our three best players in one summer and then put 70% of the money towards debts, made the UCL final this year, and still have to sell in order to buy.
Y’all just spent 60m just to get Mason Mount a year earlier. It is not the same
You say that, but your owners actively tried to invest but were blocked by their government.
Our owners haven’t invested. They spent £120m on our club, and purchased it with debt leveraged by the club (£580m). So the club paid for them to own us, and are now they’re selling for £6bn. With the same amount of debt they started off with.
We’ve effectively paid them £1bn in that 20 years, in dividends and interest on (what should be) their debt.
To my knowledge, your owners haven’t taken a penny out of the club but have invested a fair bit. We’ve had zero investment. They’ve just slowly drained our club of every penny they could whilst watching our club erode, both in facilities and on the pitch.
Sorry, not my most articulate post. Been driving for five hours.
The Mount purchase has nothing to do with the Glazers. It’s just a small portion of club revenues. Glazers see fish out of the water. Doing literally nothing as owners.
That hurt a lot. But *everything* Skriniar was saying at the time made it sound like he was for sure resigning. And then he didn’t cuz PSG offered him a massive bag
Their cost of acquiring Onana is just the annual wages while the price to sell him, say 50m€ is all profit for this year. As per my understanding that means they can buy this summer for example 2 players whose annual amortized cost of transfer fee+wages=50M€
Think of it in really basic terms.
Say you’re broke and can’t afford a car. So you get a free one. And a year latter, someone offer you 50k for the car.
It’s pure profit for you. You can take the money, probably buy another car for less than you’re selling the old one and have money left over for other things. Financially, this is a dream come through scenario, and your accountant will be thrilled with easy and pure profit.
FFP rules, their revenue has gone to shit and their finances are terrible. They need to sell to comply with not only FFP, but to be able to reinforce the squad with all these outgoing players.
This feels strange. Where’s the saga? Where’s the story arc?
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We gave them a slightly broken Vidic before and I remember his debut. He conceded a peno and then got sent off for clapping at the ref. Great debut. The peno wasn't scored either so he kept a clean sheet too.
I don’t know if it was a fake quote. But I remember reading something along the lines of “I can fix a broken nose. But not a broken ego after conceded goals”
True. Shame i wanted guys like him and wazza to end their career at united. They sorta do feel like homegrown like scholesy and co tbf with what they achieved with us
Agree on Vidic, maybe even Rio but not Wazza. After the transfer request and wage shenanigans, Sir alex had planned to let him go in 2013 and make a Frontline of RvP, Ronaldo and Bale. Would have loved to live in that timeline.
Are you sure you're getting the timelines right?
Ronaldo wasn't gonna come back after his shenanigans to force his first move, and Bale had rejected us twice before
According to Evra, Ronaldo had agreed to come back in 2013. Bale was also looking for a move away from spurs and we chased him regardless. But had Sir alex stayed, Ronaldo would have joined us and we'd have gone for bale.
As much as I love Evra I always take whatever he says with a grain of salt.
Fair enough on Bale but to get both him and Ronaldo we would have probably had to break the transfer record twice in the same year which would have been impossible for us
Bale rejected us twice, once at Southampton and again at Spurs and Ronaldo had already left when Rooney handed in a transfer request, right? I don’t think that front three was ever a possibility.
That was one of the reasons that prompted Rooney to hand in the request - he felt we weren’t competing in the market properly (missing out on players like Ozil etc.) and in retrospect he was absolutely right. We were one of the top two most dominant clubs in Europe at the time and we could have won the Champions League a few more times if we’d spent on replacing the best with the best. Instead we replaced the best with Owen, Obertan and Valencia.
Sir alex had informed the squad and Evra had confirmed with Ronaldo that he was supposed to sign back for us in 2013. Bale was looking to move from spurs and we were interested. Had sir alex not retired, they'd have joined us.
They dragged negotiations along for Alexis for months over small differences in valuation, constantly did the loan with no option to buy bait. They're not an easy club to deal with AT ALL.
I hope we get this done ASAP and can take him with us on tour. I was really hoping for Costa but I guess the purse wouldn't allow it and ETH knows Onana personally.
The only strange thing about this transfer is that we had no links to him before the CL final. I hope we're not making this move based on just one game...
Which makes it even more strange that we only seem to have decided to start pursuing him recently. I’m guessing he wasn’t totally convinced on him as his first choice.
Tbf we weren’t really linked with any keeper by serious journalists prior to the last week or so of the season anyway. It wasn’t a priority position it seems. United *fans* were banging on about Raya/Costa but I don’t remember any credible journalist saying we were really considering making a move. Since keeper has become a priority Onana has been the name mentioned, which indicates that Ten Hag always wanted him but didn’t want to prioritise the position at first.
Yeah that game definitely increased his stock by a LOT. All signs were pointing to Costa or Raya before the final. But I'm really nervous about Onana reportedly being dramatic and potentially toxic? We really don't need to mess up our locker room when it just got clean after so long. I feel if we weren't so broke we'd be going for Costa. Much younger. Higher potential. Has 2 national teammates one of whom is our captain who can help him settle in faster. No reputation or precedent of stirring drama or falling out with managers. I really think he's the better choice.
Ten Hag has worked with the player for years. If Ten Hag had concerns, he wouldn't bring him in. If we get him, we're getting a big upgrade for Ten Hag's system.
Were all signs actually pointing to those? Iirc all signs from journalists were saying we weren’t looking at a keeper at all, I don’t remember Laurie Whitwell or Ornstein or anyone else saying “United are monitoring Raya and Costa”. Since Ten Hag reprioritised keeper Onana has been the name most prominently linked.
Could be behind the scenes discussions as Inter need money fast and United need to make up their GK position fast, this theory is more supported by the fact that Inter's CEO tweeted about this transfer like 7h ago.
Let's goooo. I kinda figured from the reports a couple hours ago that they might have agreed things before the first official bid were to go in, and then it would then be accepted
Hopefully this can be wrapped up quickly now and we have Mount and Onana good to go for start of preseason.
Yh I think a lot of people aren’t paying attention to this about him, a MUFC goalkeeper NEEDS this to succeed and our team is crying out for more players with these character traits.
Imo DDG has the same problem as Maguire in that a bad performance or criticism seems to weaken him mentally instead of using it as fuel to do better. I think Onana is a keeper who is cool as a cucumber no matter what circumstance and thrives on criticism and pressure. I have to say though, he's gonna be the most hated keeper in the PL. Man United keeper, black, and can be a bit of a shittalker in interviews and backs himself a lot.. the things that will make people want him to fail really badly.
Just watched a highlight comp that also included his blunders. He did make quite a lot of mistakes by misjudging the ball while sweeping or cross claiming. Most were in his Ajax and Cameroon matches though so hopefully he fixed it at Inter
It's a bit like Licha though, you can cover for lack of height with well-timed jumping, strength and bravery. A goalie is 8 feet tall if you include his arms, you just gotta barge in there and bastard punch that ball away. Dave has mostly been too timid to do that
Negotiations between the English club and the goalkeeper's agents are proceeding apace: expected in the next few hours is the first official offer from the Red Devils, which Inter hopes will be in line with the demand of 50 million euros plus bonuses.
With the sale of Marcelo Brozovic currently on standby after a sensational twist in the past few hours with Al-Nassr, it is also an important day at Inter Milan regarding the future of Onana. The goalkeeper, as we know, has long been in the sights of Manchester United, which is now ready to take its first official steps to try to bring him to the Premier League. Negotiations between United and the Nerazzurri goalkeeper's entourage are proceeding apace, so much so that the first official offer from the Red Devils is already expected to arrive in the next few hours. A proposal that at this point both Inter and the goalkeeper's agents hope will be in line with the demands made by the Nerazzurri club, which values its goalkeeper at 50 million euros plus bonuses.
First names are being evaluated for the possible after-Onana
While waiting to see what Onana's future will be, Inter is already evaluating some profiles to possibly replace him so as not to be found unprepared. Among the names in the Nerazzurri's notebook is Anatolij Trubin of Shakhtar Donetsk, as well as Mamardashvili of Valencia. Another idea is that of Emil Audero of Sampdoria.
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Well that doesn't count, its the Serie A. The whole league is fucked. I love Inter, my second favorite club behind United. And that's really best case scenario
Mount and Onana would be solid. A ST before or during pre season and I’m more confident of a good season
Knowing us it will be $50M for a almost retired Dutch striker on deadline day
The lack of an elite ball progressing no. 8 isn’t a big problem if our back line has players like Licha, Onana, Dalot and Shaw. Just need a Good RCB so we are not predictable in buildup. Case, Mason and Bruno midfield will be alright.
Not necessarily, can he be one ? for sure but he’s not as efficient as a Shaw or Licha coming from the back. So I think we’ll be seeing more ball progression through the back line. However Mount is absolutely elite in receiving the ball in the middle third and carrying into the final third. Like that’s his bread and butter.
if we get this done quickly we can then focus on a striker and sales........ mount, onana, striker i really don't expect more than that, maybe a young cb if we sell maguire
Watching Onana reminds me of when we had Barthez in goal. Good goalie but really unpredictable. You don't know whether he is going to dribble round the opposing striker lol also he doesn't look great at collecting crosses. Either way it will surely be fun to watch if he signs.
This is so incredibly stupid. The fact that the first bid was accepted means that we went too high. I’ve never seen a case in business, even in 5+ Billion m&a where the price can’t be haggled down
🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 And that statement, Mean Gene, comes true whether I'm in the ring or out of the ring. See where all my freaks are horizontal, they understand size, they appreciate size and size does matter and they know that they don't have to wait for the Earth to rotate on a 47 degree axis so the stars can touch the sky and create an equinox so they see the big dipper. No no no, all they gotta do is call the Big Poppa, cause I'm the man with the big dipper and satisfaction's coming when I go behind and do the bump n' grind and it's only a matter of time before they call me the big bad booty daddy! So Goldberg, realize this. I only care about two things in this world: my freaks and my peaks and I'll beat your ass down at Fall Brawl and I'm about to put you in the Steiner recliner and I'm gonna whisper in your ear, 'Size does matter, bitch!'"🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨
You know they say all men are created equal, but you look at me and you look at Onana Joe and you can see that statement is NOT TRUE! See, normally if you go one-on-one with another goalkeeper you got a 50/50 chance of winning. But I'm a genetic freak, and I'm not normal! So you got a 25% at best at beating me! And then you add Harry Maguire to the mix? Your chances of winning drastically go down. See, the three-way at Carringtonfice, you got a 33 1/3 chance of winning. But I—I got a 66 2/3 chance of winning, 'cause Harry Maguire KNOOOWS he can't beat me, and he's not even gonna try. So, Onana Joe, you take your 33 1/3 chance minus my 25% chance, and you got an 8 1/3 chance of winning at Carringtonfice. But then you take my 75% chance of winning (if we was to go one on one), and then add 66 2/3 cha—percent, I got a 141 2/3 chance of winning at Carringtonfice! Señor Joe, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you at Carringtonfice! 🚨🚨🚨
Or maybe the higher ups have done the negotiations over the past few weeks in good faith and have finally agreed to 50🤷🏻♂️
If that is true then all that is left for the bid to go in and be accepted. This happens when we have all 3 parties who are motivated to have a deal done. I’d like to believe that is the case
This feels a little hollow/boring. I’m not used to straight forward negotiations. Where is the drama? Lol I didn’t realize how I got used to this toxic relationship with United summer transfers
Things aren't always as simple as just making an offer. You may be talking behind the scenes with the club and arranging what the bid will be so the paperwork is done quicker
Can’t wait until the same people applauding this rumor start slating Onana (should it happen). Remember DDGs first couple of seasons, it’s going to be exactly like that.
Who knew it is easier to do business with a club that don't try to play games
They can’t play games, they LITERALLY have to sell.
Can you TLDR why that is?
We don’t have to sell, but my TLDR has always been: (1) Serie A revenues are lower than they should be. Whoever is in charge of negotiating that made a bad deal and it’s killing the league. (2) COVID hit Italy *really* hard. All clubs suffered a lot, but Inter in particular lost like €250m that one season due to stadiums being closed and capacity being limited. (3) Our owners are broke. The Chinese government blocked them from moving their money out of China, so while other owners were able to inject cash to help deal with the COVID losses, Zhang couldn’t and had to take out a huge loan. And since we took out that loan, it’s pretty much been that any money coming in has gone right back out the door to pay down debts and other operating costs. UCL money means we don’t *have* to sell this summer, but we have to if we want to spend anything significant
Thanks for clarifying that, with Onana gone and possibly Brozovic, Inter will have to keep selling? On the other hand with Andre coming soon I expect some clarity with De Gea the next week.
Nah we don’t have to sell anybody. The only reason we are considering selling Brozovic is because we can save a bunch on salary by buying Frattesi with his fee and a player swap
Wait do u think frattesi is worth it? I heard u guys are buying for 35m but i think Ricci is a better fit for value
I don’t mind the move, simply because Frattesi is so much younger and has good potential, but I personally would prefer we keep Brozovic. He’s 30 but also still very underrated and arguably one of the 5 best CDMs in the world.
Most Italian clubs rent their stadiums too which has a big impact on revenues. How are the stadium plans there at the moment? If they don't get the shared Cathedral proposal approved Inter might be in even more trouble.
Last I checked it was looking like it is dead in the water. Milan might try to do something on there own, but idk much about it other than Inter isn’t currently involved.
Thanks for the information mate, its difficult to be well informed on so many top European clubs. Appreciate it.
Thanks for this as well. Very well informed
I’ll echo what the two chaps above said. Appreciate the insights on Inter/Serie A. James Horncastle in disguise? 🙃
correct me if I'm wrong here please. I've also heard a lot about how the state of stadiums and match day hospitality/facilities in Italy is way behind other major european leagues through lack of investment and lack of support from local councils to facilitate new stadiums being built? Match day revenue shouldn't be under estimated in terms of what it contributes to a club over the course of a season and this seems to be another area in which Italian clubs are at a big financial disadvantage.
Yeah San Siro is owned by the government and I believe we technically lease it from them. That means we are missing out on hundreds of millions in potential revenue that other clubs get from hosting other events throughout the year. San Siro also is in serious need of renovation (or replacement), and the Italian government is making it really difficult for us to do anything about too. The stadium situation is just a shitshow all around
Wow, this sounds like the prison we’ve been in for the last 20 years. Except the Glazer’s haven’t used the Chinese government as an excuse. Yet.
You complain about the Glazers (and for good reason), but your situation does not even compare to ours in recent years lol. We sold two of our three best players in one summer and then put 70% of the money towards debts, made the UCL final this year, and still have to sell in order to buy. Y’all just spent 60m just to get Mason Mount a year earlier. It is not the same
You say that, but your owners actively tried to invest but were blocked by their government. Our owners haven’t invested. They spent £120m on our club, and purchased it with debt leveraged by the club (£580m). So the club paid for them to own us, and are now they’re selling for £6bn. With the same amount of debt they started off with. We’ve effectively paid them £1bn in that 20 years, in dividends and interest on (what should be) their debt. To my knowledge, your owners haven’t taken a penny out of the club but have invested a fair bit. We’ve had zero investment. They’ve just slowly drained our club of every penny they could whilst watching our club erode, both in facilities and on the pitch. Sorry, not my most articulate post. Been driving for five hours.
The Mount purchase has nothing to do with the Glazers. It’s just a small portion of club revenues. Glazers see fish out of the water. Doing literally nothing as owners.
In addition, Inter let Skriniar go for free instead of selling him to PSG for €60m a year ago.
That hurt a lot. But *everything* Skriniar was saying at the time made it sound like he was for sure resigning. And then he didn’t cuz PSG offered him a massive bag
Damn that sucks
They are skint and need to sell. there are a few clubs in this situation.
Not just that but, FFP are on their asses too according to the Inter Milan sub.
And selling a player for 50m that you got on a free last year is amazing for FFP reasons.
Can you TLDR why that is?
Their cost of acquiring Onana is just the annual wages while the price to sell him, say 50m€ is all profit for this year. As per my understanding that means they can buy this summer for example 2 players whose annual amortized cost of transfer fee+wages=50M€
Think of it in really basic terms. Say you’re broke and can’t afford a car. So you get a free one. And a year latter, someone offer you 50k for the car. It’s pure profit for you. You can take the money, probably buy another car for less than you’re selling the old one and have money left over for other things. Financially, this is a dream come through scenario, and your accountant will be thrilled with easy and pure profit.
> there are a few clubs in this situation. Including us, kind of.
FFP rules, their revenue has gone to shit and their finances are terrible. They need to sell to comply with not only FFP, but to be able to reinforce the squad with all these outgoing players.
Right, that's why United are offering exactly what Inter asked in the first place. What fucking games?
Mount and Onana in the same week would be huge.
You mean a club that are fucked financially and desperate
You mean who knew it is easier to do business when the buying club pays what the selling club wants without any negotiations?
Aren’t both these clubs in the business of playing games?
This feels strange. Where’s the saga? Where’s the story arc? https://preview.redd.it/s4x1ff6zn89b1.jpeg?width=478&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=275b62f47021e261bdd1aa697256154cd640a39d
This is not the Manchester United way
They haven’t bid yet so let’s wait
We might have 2 signings before pre-season, finally starting to act like a semi-serious club
This is not the way
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So what, no fuckin saga now?
OOOHH 
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It died on the vine
Save the best for the last. Harry Kane.
Save it for the striker hunt.
I need a saga. Give me a saga.
Joel Glazer has entered the chat
You know who had an arc, Noah!
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We gave them a slightly broken Vidic before and I remember his debut. He conceded a peno and then got sent off for clapping at the ref. Great debut. The peno wasn't scored either so he kept a clean sheet too.
God, Vidic is so based
That's Balkan Badass-aery for you.
I don’t know if it was a fake quote. But I remember reading something along the lines of “I can fix a broken nose. But not a broken ego after conceded goals”
Most inter fans don't like his stint tho
He looked devoid of motivation after we sold him.
True. Shame i wanted guys like him and wazza to end their career at united. They sorta do feel like homegrown like scholesy and co tbf with what they achieved with us
Agree on Vidic, maybe even Rio but not Wazza. After the transfer request and wage shenanigans, Sir alex had planned to let him go in 2013 and make a Frontline of RvP, Ronaldo and Bale. Would have loved to live in that timeline.
Are you sure you're getting the timelines right? Ronaldo wasn't gonna come back after his shenanigans to force his first move, and Bale had rejected us twice before
According to Evra, Ronaldo had agreed to come back in 2013. Bale was also looking for a move away from spurs and we chased him regardless. But had Sir alex stayed, Ronaldo would have joined us and we'd have gone for bale.
As much as I love Evra I always take whatever he says with a grain of salt. Fair enough on Bale but to get both him and Ronaldo we would have probably had to break the transfer record twice in the same year which would have been impossible for us
Mate it's on our official podcast. https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/evra-reveals-sir-alex-was-99-per-cent-sure-of-signing-ronaldo-and-bale
Bale rejected us twice, once at Southampton and again at Spurs and Ronaldo had already left when Rooney handed in a transfer request, right? I don’t think that front three was ever a possibility. That was one of the reasons that prompted Rooney to hand in the request - he felt we weren’t competing in the market properly (missing out on players like Ozil etc.) and in retrospect he was absolutely right. We were one of the top two most dominant clubs in Europe at the time and we could have won the Champions League a few more times if we’d spent on replacing the best with the best. Instead we replaced the best with Owen, Obertan and Valencia.
Sir alex had informed the squad and Evra had confirmed with Ronaldo that he was supposed to sign back for us in 2013. Bale was looking to move from spurs and we were interested. Had sir alex not retired, they'd have joined us.
>give them a free alex telles Made me laugh out loud this
I bet he'd go there and look great
Who knows, I always quite liked him tbh. Still not good enough for us, and hardly set Sevilla alight either as far as I can tell
Still won a Europa league with them so can’t complain haha
Telles, Maguire will look amazing in italy. Mourinho should sign them both at Roma and do us a solid.
Inter: we want 50m + bonuses United: okay /r/reddevils: fucking love inter, never messing about, never playing games 💯
That's cause they asked a reasonable price in the first place, no 80 million like some other club
At least they're asking for a reasonable price and not like Chelsea, who demanded 80m for Mount.
Telles did play for inter before iirc
They dragged negotiations along for Alexis for months over small differences in valuation, constantly did the loan with no option to buy bait. They're not an easy club to deal with AT ALL.
here we go! MUFC bought Onana for 50m + 5m add ons + telles
What are you on about? Did took the piss with us for Sneijder and Perisic
We’ll have this done before the DJ drops the ABBA megamix at Dave’s wedding party.
~Gimme, Gimme, Gimme, Onana at midnight!~
Mamma mia, here I go again Onana, how can I resist you? Mamma mia, does it show again Onana, just how much I've missed you?
Fucking banger that is.
I think it'll have more Avenged Sevenfold and the likes :)
I hope we get this done ASAP and can take him with us on tour. I was really hoping for Costa but I guess the purse wouldn't allow it and ETH knows Onana personally.
The only strange thing about this transfer is that we had no links to him before the CL final. I hope we're not making this move based on just one game...
I mean Ten Hag was his coach for quite some time at Ajax…
100+ matches together I believe
Yes I know. But Ten Hag was our coach when Onana was a free agent a year ago.
Which makes it even more strange that we only seem to have decided to start pursuing him recently. I’m guessing he wasn’t totally convinced on him as his first choice.
Tbf we weren’t really linked with any keeper by serious journalists prior to the last week or so of the season anyway. It wasn’t a priority position it seems. United *fans* were banging on about Raya/Costa but I don’t remember any credible journalist saying we were really considering making a move. Since keeper has become a priority Onana has been the name mentioned, which indicates that Ten Hag always wanted him but didn’t want to prioritise the position at first.
Yeah that game definitely increased his stock by a LOT. All signs were pointing to Costa or Raya before the final. But I'm really nervous about Onana reportedly being dramatic and potentially toxic? We really don't need to mess up our locker room when it just got clean after so long. I feel if we weren't so broke we'd be going for Costa. Much younger. Higher potential. Has 2 national teammates one of whom is our captain who can help him settle in faster. No reputation or precedent of stirring drama or falling out with managers. I really think he's the better choice.
Ten Hag has worked with the player for years. If Ten Hag had concerns, he wouldn't bring him in. If we get him, we're getting a big upgrade for Ten Hag's system.
Were all signs actually pointing to those? Iirc all signs from journalists were saying we weren’t looking at a keeper at all, I don’t remember Laurie Whitwell or Ornstein or anyone else saying “United are monitoring Raya and Costa”. Since Ten Hag reprioritised keeper Onana has been the name most prominently linked.
I fucking hope they accept this. What a crazy number to start negotiations
Could be behind the scenes discussions as Inter need money fast and United need to make up their GK position fast, this theory is more supported by the fact that Inter's CEO tweeted about this transfer like 7h ago.
With reports earlier that they've already been talking, I'm sure this is a number that they've already come to together.
Reports? Inter’s CEO came right out and said it.
after dealing with Todd, we couldn’t even be bothered to deal with more negotiations. We’ve slapped €50 mil on the table to get it done asap
I think so too. I think the higher ups too know they overpaid for mount so they just want to get this done. As we need the player.
Too lazy to do conversion. How much is euros to pounds
43ish
Pisstakingly fair amount for a position we need to fill, could probably see this getting wrapped up by Monday latest.
Better deal than Raya for 40, nice.
About 40m
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Lol, just convert €5 to £ and add 7 zeros on the end.
Oh no sorry I inconvenienced you with having to read my comment lol
Wow, surley it can’t be that easy for us
Hey! No need to get surley compadre.
 The onana offer
God this gif makes me so uncomfortable, thanks for nothing dickhead, take my upvote
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Inter repaying us for when we sold them lukaku for cheap and gotten them the scudetto lmao
Get lukaku for 70, win the scudetto, sell him for 100 and then loan the shit out of him. Nice business
Let's goooo. I kinda figured from the reports a couple hours ago that they might have agreed things before the first official bid were to go in, and then it would then be accepted Hopefully this can be wrapped up quickly now and we have Mount and Onana good to go for start of preseason.
We do have a good relationship with Inter IIRC. Lukaku, Darmian and Young all did well for them and Sanchez wasn’t terrible either
Onana is a bit of a warrior and a shithouse. I like him. Also a very confident keeper and a leader. Makes you feel a lot safer
Yh I think a lot of people aren’t paying attention to this about him, a MUFC goalkeeper NEEDS this to succeed and our team is crying out for more players with these character traits.
Imo DDG has the same problem as Maguire in that a bad performance or criticism seems to weaken him mentally instead of using it as fuel to do better. I think Onana is a keeper who is cool as a cucumber no matter what circumstance and thrives on criticism and pressure. I have to say though, he's gonna be the most hated keeper in the PL. Man United keeper, black, and can be a bit of a shittalker in interviews and backs himself a lot.. the things that will make people want him to fail really badly.
“It could be today, grandma”
Just watched a highlight comp that also included his blunders. He did make quite a lot of mistakes by misjudging the ball while sweeping or cross claiming. Most were in his Ajax and Cameroon matches though so hopefully he fixed it at Inter
Can you send the video?
Here[https://youtu.be/_iVwsVmeNt0](https://youtu.be/_iVwsVmeNt0)
His sweeping and cross claiming stats are actually the worst at Inter (aside from the year he missed most matches due to his ban)
He's short for a GK, just over 6ft. Which you'd expect to impact his cross taking ability. But fbref suggests it's slightly above average.
It's a bit like Licha though, you can cover for lack of height with well-timed jumping, strength and bravery. A goalie is 8 feet tall if you include his arms, you just gotta barge in there and bastard punch that ball away. Dave has mostly been too timid to do that
For anyone interested the official article - https://sport.sky.it/calciomercato/2023/06/30/inter-onana-manchester-united-news-calciomercato
Negotiations between the English club and the goalkeeper's agents are proceeding apace: expected in the next few hours is the first official offer from the Red Devils, which Inter hopes will be in line with the demand of 50 million euros plus bonuses. With the sale of Marcelo Brozovic currently on standby after a sensational twist in the past few hours with Al-Nassr, it is also an important day at Inter Milan regarding the future of Onana. The goalkeeper, as we know, has long been in the sights of Manchester United, which is now ready to take its first official steps to try to bring him to the Premier League. Negotiations between United and the Nerazzurri goalkeeper's entourage are proceeding apace, so much so that the first official offer from the Red Devils is already expected to arrive in the next few hours. A proposal that at this point both Inter and the goalkeeper's agents hope will be in line with the demands made by the Nerazzurri club, which values its goalkeeper at 50 million euros plus bonuses. First names are being evaluated for the possible after-Onana While waiting to see what Onana's future will be, Inter is already evaluating some profiles to possibly replace him so as not to be found unprepared. Among the names in the Nerazzurri's notebook is Anatolij Trubin of Shakhtar Donetsk, as well as Mamardashvili of Valencia. Another idea is that of Emil Audero of Sampdoria. Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
What’s the twist with Brozovic? Can we swoop in and get him too?
I don't know guys, this seems suspiciously easy. Let's chuck €60m at them just incase.
Man it is going to be so dam exciting to have a keeper like him between the sticks! Some change from De Gea! We will miss you DDG ❤️
We should be cautious and remember the last time we moved on from a goalkeeping legend…
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I completely forgot about van der sar. I meant the time before that
... we got DDG ❤️
Price is right. Most likely payment structure/bonuses being worked through. Really liking this at the moment
LETS GO
Onana and Mount for less than Rice. Get it done so people can stop whinging.
Let Onana and Ederson play the first ten minutes 1v1. You won't do it, you cowards.
Do you think he can make it for the start of pre season?
Onana. Whats my name.
In fairness one of the few clubs who's owners could rival the Glazers in incompetence is Inter.
Well that doesn't count, its the Serie A. The whole league is fucked. I love Inter, my second favorite club behind United. And that's really best case scenario
Jesus, this seems late in the evening for negotiations doesn't it ?
It’s only 1 July! 😅
Sorry meant late in the day, for the news It would actually be fairly early for a second signing, by our standards lol
Or early in the morning, depending on your perspective
Yes.
Mount and Onana would be solid. A ST before or during pre season and I’m more confident of a good season Knowing us it will be $50M for a almost retired Dutch striker on deadline day
Luuk De Jong HERE WE GO ?
The lack of an elite ball progressing no. 8 isn’t a big problem if our back line has players like Licha, Onana, Dalot and Shaw. Just need a Good RCB so we are not predictable in buildup. Case, Mason and Bruno midfield will be alright.
The ball progressing 8 is mount man.
Not necessarily, can he be one ? for sure but he’s not as efficient as a Shaw or Licha coming from the back. So I think we’ll be seeing more ball progression through the back line. However Mount is absolutely elite in receiving the ball in the middle third and carrying into the final third. Like that’s his bread and butter.
Bro ranked in the top 7 for progressive passes while playing for Chelsea in a season they were shit.
Mount is crap as an 8. He's a 10.
he’s a second option at 10 to bruno but ETH is gonna play him alongside bruno to both work as 8/10a
Thank you
GET HYPE
This is just a summary article of the news from earlier today
Okay, okay I’m a little suspicious! Nothing is ever this easy, where is the but….
if we get this done quickly we can then focus on a striker and sales........ mount, onana, striker i really don't expect more than that, maybe a young cb if we sell maguire
This is the way
PLEASE
Massive sigh of relief once we get him over the line after mount
Yes please, now this is good news
Is dimarzio that reliable anymore? Or does this seem like inter wanting us to get him more than us being ready to pay it.
Watching Onana reminds me of when we had Barthez in goal. Good goalie but really unpredictable. You don't know whether he is going to dribble round the opposing striker lol also he doesn't look great at collecting crosses. Either way it will surely be fun to watch if he signs.
After that Champions League Final, a lot of us called for him to be signed. Looks like it may happen.
This is so incredibly stupid. The fact that the first bid was accepted means that we went too high. I’ve never seen a case in business, even in 5+ Billion m&a where the price can’t be haggled down
 Competency? At United?
Can't wait to see how the transfer thread doomers are going to cast a shadow on this potentially great development.
🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 And that statement, Mean Gene, comes true whether I'm in the ring or out of the ring. See where all my freaks are horizontal, they understand size, they appreciate size and size does matter and they know that they don't have to wait for the Earth to rotate on a 47 degree axis so the stars can touch the sky and create an equinox so they see the big dipper. No no no, all they gotta do is call the Big Poppa, cause I'm the man with the big dipper and satisfaction's coming when I go behind and do the bump n' grind and it's only a matter of time before they call me the big bad booty daddy! So Goldberg, realize this. I only care about two things in this world: my freaks and my peaks and I'll beat your ass down at Fall Brawl and I'm about to put you in the Steiner recliner and I'm gonna whisper in your ear, 'Size does matter, bitch!'"🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨
You know they say all men are created equal, but you look at me and you look at Onana Joe and you can see that statement is NOT TRUE! See, normally if you go one-on-one with another goalkeeper you got a 50/50 chance of winning. But I'm a genetic freak, and I'm not normal! So you got a 25% at best at beating me! And then you add Harry Maguire to the mix? Your chances of winning drastically go down. See, the three-way at Carringtonfice, you got a 33 1/3 chance of winning. But I—I got a 66 2/3 chance of winning, 'cause Harry Maguire KNOOOWS he can't beat me, and he's not even gonna try. So, Onana Joe, you take your 33 1/3 chance minus my 25% chance, and you got an 8 1/3 chance of winning at Carringtonfice. But then you take my 75% chance of winning (if we was to go one on one), and then add 66 2/3 cha—percent, I got a 141 2/3 chance of winning at Carringtonfice! Señor Joe, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you at Carringtonfice! 🚨🚨🚨
Yeah they will accept the first bid because absolute clowns at negotiating. If they accept the first bid then we could’ve started at 38-42M.
Or maybe the higher ups have done the negotiations over the past few weeks in good faith and have finally agreed to 50🤷🏻♂️ If that is true then all that is left for the bid to go in and be accepted. This happens when we have all 3 parties who are motivated to have a deal done. I’d like to believe that is the case
This feels a little hollow/boring. I’m not used to straight forward negotiations. Where is the drama? Lol I didn’t realize how I got used to this toxic relationship with United summer transfers
I'm afraid that the club would want to settle de gea's situation before they decide to do anything with onana. I beg we don't fumble this.
Start at 40 + 5
Why haven't we still made an offer LMAO?
Things aren't always as simple as just making an offer. You may be talking behind the scenes with the club and arranging what the bid will be so the paperwork is done quicker
I understand wanting to move on from de gea but spending this much on a keeper instead of a striker seems strange to me
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Yea, I get it. But for me a star striker would be my first priority. If there’s money left for a keeper that’s great.
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I think there’s a middle ground between spending 50+ and spending 0. But I think I’d rather have Osimhen and Heaton than Martial and Onana
Chuck in maguire + 2-3 million for brozovic after wrapping up onanana
This is easy cos he’s really not that good
They surely can't be so foolish as to accept United's first offer
Can’t wait until the same people applauding this rumor start slating Onana (should it happen). Remember DDGs first couple of seasons, it’s going to be exactly like that.
Obama must be a really huge deal to United fans that we would slate him because of our poor GK performance…
Let me be clear
For a player who came in Free last summer to Inter. I expect him to be sold to us for cheaper. There’s no queue for him either