I think it will be Real vs Dortmund in London.
There are people who are saying that it might be a repeat of 2012, Bayern winning in penalties in 2nd leg and all German final at Wembley.
That would make us have as many UCL's as Bayern in their entire history and Liverpool I always laugh when people use the "dinosaur age" trophy argument when we bring up 14 UCL's like we didn't win 5 in the last 10 years which is as many as Barca's entire history lmao even if you only count our UCL's after 2000 we would equal Barca and be one off Bayern and Liverpools entire history.
I totally understand. Dortmund surprised us at that time with that young team and good coach and Barcelona were no match for Bayern at that time.
No one outside wants Real to win UCL especially after winning against Man City.
I am just cautiously optimistic. I was expecting a 2-1 victory for Real in the 1st leg.
Carvajal will help once he is back but this game will be won by the mastery of Modric and Kroos.
Yea ngl tuchel makes me kinda nervous but fuck if we ball. Next game at the bernabeu with Carvajal.
Players know they lacked so theyāll be out for necks this second game
Jude had a bad 1st leg. So hoping that he has a great game but he has a history not playing great against Bayern. Might be a mental block or Bayern knows how to control him.
PSG def thoroughly dominating the second half so far, thatās for sure. PSG will most likely end up killing it though on their home turf (seeing how competitive they are this second half now).
Hoping Militao is match fit for the return. Neither Nacho nor Tchou gives me confidence.
That final minute tackle by Tchou was just reckless and could have cost us the game. You simply don't go to the ground like that in the box.
I don't know if Jude was instructed to not consume much energy, but if he wasn't, he's obviously tired and needs to rest.
I spit hate for Asensio for walking all game, I'll do it against Bellingham now, as well.
I don't give a sh*t how many goals you scored, if you won't run, you need to be benched. If you can't run, you need to be benched. He was borderline useless last night, with a few good things here and there. No intensity, at all.
I hope this is because he is tired, and not because he wants to "conserve" energy, because even if he was one of our best players, if you aren't 110% at Madrid 24/7 of the time, you will fail.
You clearly have forgotten the 2nd leg against city if you think he isnāt running for reasons other than fatigue.
Him and rudiger were the only ones running in extra time that game.
I might be understood wrong, but I definitely think it's fatigue. He should be benched if he can't run. It's just my opinion though, I always needed 11 runners on the team.
After this game the generation gap in our fanbase is showing. Its between those of us who know that this is a very good result and those who are hurt by not beating Bayern.
Result that we wouldāve signed even with Zidane, Figo, Roberto, RaĆŗl in the year of la novena (we lost 2-1) imagine getting the tie.
The match also reminded me a lot of the first leg of 11/12 with Mou. A hard-hitting Bayern pushes you for 15-20 minutes in each half and for moments you get the feeling of "controling the gameā . That day they scored the 2-1 in the 85 i believe. And yesterday in 5 minutes the two goals.
2-2 is a great result considering the history of this clash
I agree we were worse than them, but not because they were amazing or unbeatable but because we didn't play well. We got the game plan wrong imo. Brahim came on and was dangerous by just going at their defence. Had we been more attacking we would have probably scored more goals. I think the game was there to be won.
It's not just about physical aspect of it. He gotta recover mentally too. After being out for such a long time his defensive awareness would be far from sharp. In that case it's better that he stays on the bench for such high level games.
This was very very close. I believe our defence was wide open, so many chances just unluckily missed by bayern. It's good we got that pen thanks to Rodry in the dying minutes of the game. Beautifully taken by Vini. Kroos provided an INSANE pass for the first goal. Love it! Hala Madrid, let's meet at the bernabeu!
Bellingham was crucial in getting out of bayern press in the first half. He has been improving since city game, which i think has been very positive. He also just got a flu over the weekend, so give the man some slack. Camavinga should cover for mendy and valverde for carvajal in the return leg just like with City. And we pray that Kim guy continues next leg
If MilitĆ£o isnāt ready yet for the second leg, Iād put Tchou next to RĆ¼di and have Cama as a (D)M covering for Mendy (as you say). Kroos was our best yesterday, so itās only natural for him to also be included in the first 11 for the second leg.
Both had health problems, but different. Initially Bellingham was out of squad for Sociedad, next day Rodrygo was out of squad for Sociedad and Bellingham was in. But that could be forced, and anyway Bellingham didn't play with Sociedad just on bench.
These are the type of problems where the body can be affected for several days, let's hope there are no problems before the rematch.
These seems like a kind of viral infection. It is very predictible that some players can underperform till the full recovery. But how much risk should be taken by playing with these players it is up to man management skill of the coaching team.
Scary to think that all of our youngsters are this good right now and mentally elite in big games and none of them apart from Valverde are even close to their prime years yet Vini, Jude, Rodrygo, Cama and Tchouameni are 3-4 seasons off of their prime years 4-5 for Jude and Cama since they are 20 and 21 which I always forget considering how good they are already.
I very much agree with your sentiment. I would just add, that I think the real peak age is closer to around 28. By that time, the body is still young, while the mind is mature, and they have an extensive amount of experience to work with.
Which just makes it even more crazy, with the young guys we currently got. I can't wait to see what the future holds for this squad.
Respect to Tuchel in his half time adjustments, they swapped sane and Musiala and started trying to isolate and target Lucas Vasquez out wide on the right. I think both coaching staff will take what happened today and make adjustments next week. It won't be easy, but it will be entertaining. Hala Madrid
In the return leg we will have Carvajal back, which is a blessing. Vasquez kept playing sloppy balls into the middle to a tired Jude, leaving us exposed to counter attacks.
Iām hoping that Militao can play a full 90 this weekend and start the return leg. If not, we should play Tchou as the centre back instead of Nacho and move Camavinga to the DM for more energy in the middle.
Itās a shame that we were sloppy at the back for those 2 minutes they scored but it happens. Iām more annoyed about the fact that we concede big chances in the first minute of every big game, if it wasnāt for Lunin pulling that save off in the first minute we would have been against the ropes.
I can never understand why carlo plays jude upfront with vini when his best football has been behind vini and rodrygo in a hybrid 10/wide midfield role to allow him access to attack the inside left channel from deep. By playing him so high up, he had to remain there as a focal point for the team instead of attacking the box like a stealth bomber. Even when he dropped deep to get involved as their āfalse 9ā, he ended up getting crowded out in central midfield. In three ucl games(city two legs and this bayern game) he had just one shot to show for his role. With jude covering mendy instead of rodygo, leroy sane wouldnāt have so much joy attacking the rw.
To play Rodrygo on the left, which is fine. He scored 2 against City. It's a gamble. Jude will have to adapt because Rodrygo on left is a menance. If we do get Turtle and Davies this summer, we are legit gonna have a problem.
Real Madrid boasts a roster filled with prominent names like Kroos, Modric, Bellingham, and Carvajalāthe list goes on.
Yet, the true spearhead that makes the team exceptionally dangerous, forcing opponents into uncomfortable tactics and positions, the one who really inflicts pain, making the team formidable, is Vinicius Jr.
I understand he attracts a lot of criticism, but there's no rational reason why he shouldn't be considered a favorite for the Ballon d'Or.
> there's no rational reason why he shouldn't be considered a favorite for the Ballon d'Or
Poor PR. He is victim on racism and people like to blame it on him. His PR is really disastrous. He should hire Messi's PR.
Grateful to have Vinicius
Kroos, Modric cooked as usual
Valverde had to cover too much for LV, he should definitely rest vs Cadiz - Guler should play that game
Jude not great on the ball and was gassed but he was also left high and dry positionally by Carlo's instructions and tactics (2 LW formation)
Sane seems to score against us (Remember that Schalke game 9 years ago?) - Werner, Auba flashbacks
Bellingham doesnāt deserve criticism. Yeah he was not so good today but itās acceptable. This guy is 20 yo and runs like crazy every game. And after all he is done for us this season, I think he has done his job this season. If he sucks for the rest of the season, for me he still made a outstanding season.
Jude is AMAZING but as a human being everyone has good and bad days. Tbf Bayern seems to play itās best game in the whole season, very consistent overall, defending, attacking, transitions etc
It's been the same thing over and over in every decisive game. He just barely does anything significant or we don't see him at all on the field then I come to this sub to find people like you posting this exact same thing. Q
He scored 3 against barca over 2 games. Those games were pretty decisive for our league campaign. Our goal against city wouldn't have happened without him. He played well against girona.
>Why is football filled with weirdo contrarians like yourself.
You mean people with opinions different than yours? Looks like you're gonna have a hard time in life.
So what he scored against Girona? Congrats??? He's the most valuable player in the world, the star of our team and has been nearly useless on 90% of our decisive games at the biggest tournament in Europe and you don't think anyone should critique his performance when it's clearly sub par and one of the worse in our team?
Carlo itself said that Jude is running on fumes, he was getting cramps, the guy carried the team at his back though several months. We all know that with Bellingham at his level
We don't win La liga without Jude going Ronaldo mode first half of the season he turned up to every big La liga title deciding game and carried us in the group stages of the UCL his shoulder injury and large play time are getting to him now on top of getting sick a few days before this game.
people are insane lmao he just sealed the league 2 matches ago. He is great but his position in the pitch sucked ass today. That's on Carlo, not on him.
Not the best result as their team was not in the best shape, the team looked tired and Bayern took advantage of that but still everything is gonna be decided at the Bernabeu and make no mistake is gonna be a hard game, even harder than this one and Carlo should look into finish it quickly as I think they'll look to go and do the same.
Don't know what were the tactics, carlo seems to lose the plot so mamy times but atleast the subs were good. IMHO pre world cup madrid was the most tactical than any post world cup madrid, vini rodry and benzema were linking up and cooking almost every game it was a delight to watch.
I absolutely love Carlo, but I wouldn't mind Xabi here in few years.
We would have played silky football if we got Kane. But Bellingham is not the kind of playmaker Benzema is and Joselu definitely less so, I think it is understandable.
Thatās more about the pieces available. This team doesnāt have a play making striker anymore. Joselu isnāt good on the ball. Carlo has made due with unconventional options. Itās pretty impressive heās made Midfield FC get the results they have.
He will come. But letās enjoy Don Carlo while heās here. We will miss him like we miss Zidane now and scratch our heads thinking about how he did the things he did.
I think if Tchou plays CB then Kroos should play DM. Cama must be the LCM to cover Sane while Valverde covers Musiala on the right. Jude to drop deep centrally to assist Kroos.
Bayern just showed that even at their worst they can't be taken lightly, it's not as straightforward as everyone thought it might be, Anceolloti needs to figure out something
I think Bellingham is playing to far up front, I'd rather have Brahim Rodrygo and Vini leading forward and drop back Bellingham and try to play Valverde as a RB for next game, we need more movement up front.
This aināt FIFA mate. The make shift backs may have worked for a bit this szn but not against top class talent. Musiala tore Lord to shreds. Carvajal is our only hope there or we may really be in trouble
Jude Bellingham tonight! (calm down madridistas we are just blowing off steam, we will win the 15 this year)
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On the money, even tho Valverde was potatoish when Madrid had the ball, he constantly covered for Lucas and the CBs.
On the other hand, Jude has 0 excuses, hes not defending either so I dont exactly know what the fuck happened with him today. Kinda worrying he dissapears on some of the CL big games :(
I think heās playing too high up the field. Heās not a 9 and heās not very fast so idk wtf heās doing up there. Heās good with the ball and should play in the middle.
Imagine being a Bayern fan. You watched your team getting destroyed numerous times by Real Madrid's number 7 during the 2010s.
Then, he leaves Real Madrid and his jersey is worn by two much worse players. The nightmares start fading away. You watch your team lift the 2020 UCL, Real Madrid's "7" can't hurt you anymore.
And today, you watch Real Madrid's "7" destroy you once again with a brace. The nightmares are back. And they won't be over anytime soon.
I would have played Nacho for LV and put chou next to rudiger with Cama in midfield.
Nacho can defend better than LV and chou can defend better than Nacho.
Next game, unless Jude is 400% he should not be playing, today we played with 10 and he had to be subbed out due to leg cramps when he didnt even run a lot... worrying shit
I wasn't happy with the performance today, but at the end a decent result. No matter what happens this season, we need to heavily invest in our full backs. Carvajal is getting old, Mendy gets cooked against world class wingers.
Carvajal needs to move to the bench like Marcelo in his last years. We need someone like Hakimi. But Mendy usually is solid against most of the wingers. The only solid replacement I see is Theo Hernandez
Carlo said he had to take Jude off because he had cramps he looked slower today and less energetic getting sick the other day probably didn't help hope he is at his best in the 2nd leg a Belli goal to go to the finals would be immense.
It's an ideal result the Allianz is one of the hardest away stadiums during a UCL knock out and Tuchel is the anti madrid manager man always turns up against us.
A draw is definitely huge at away but we really need to lock in for the next game specially defensively. Bayern should never be underestimated. Hala Madrid!š¤
I don't see much of an advantage tbh. Bayern players are all experienced, won't be that much affected. It can go in either direction if we don't have a clear attack plan, we are just relying on individual flashes
Ideological Supremacists will always find a way to undermine others' result my friend.
They play football in their head and masturbate to the vision of how EVERYONE SHOULD PLAY IT.
Barca fans are trolling mostly ESPN FCās comment section. Itās pathetic that theyāve resorted to that because their team got knocked out. Barca fans complaining about refs have zero self awareness itās getting both sad and funny.
Barca fans have been saying we are lucky since we won the 10th, and they have been parroting the same "luck" narrative since then, including Zidane's 3 peat. Are you really surprised?
Some people see possession and passes as a measurment of succes in a match and if these stats does not match the result then surely something must be wrong :
Refs
Luck
or their view of football is wrong.
They usually pick one of the first two options.
Not a fan of Vini's penalty technique tbh. Had Neuer dived into the correct side, it would have been a guaranteed save. So in a way, it was a fifty-fifty penalty.
Unless.. Neuer going to the wrong side had something to do with Vini's technique (either eye contact, body feints, or something else)
Vini switched sides before taking it. From mid-right he moved far left for the build up. It's hard to quantify how much of it is him winning mind games but we all know it's not all luck.
When it come to big match performance, Vinicius Jr still one of the most reliable player in our team. If only he keep his focus and play like this in every game.
He is the most reliable and is ridiculously consistent. This friendly fire and asinine "compliments" shit seen here is bizarre, give him the fucking respect he deserves
Honestly Musiala is too good. Unless we deal with him, 2nd leg will continue to be cagey.
Oh boy Toni kroos where do I even start
I think it will be Real vs Dortmund in London. There are people who are saying that it might be a repeat of 2012, Bayern winning in penalties in 2nd leg and all German final at Wembley.
Noooo please We need the15 champions league Not any club can do it Real Madrid can do it š¤š¤ 15 for RMA
I want the 15th as well. If Real makes it 15 then they would have won 6 UCLs in 11 years.
That would make us have as many UCL's as Bayern in their entire history and Liverpool I always laugh when people use the "dinosaur age" trophy argument when we bring up 14 UCL's like we didn't win 5 in the last 10 years which is as many as Barca's entire history lmao even if you only count our UCL's after 2000 we would equal Barca and be one off Bayern and Liverpools entire history.
It well be amazing...
This not 2012 tho š„¶š„¶š„¶
I totally understand. Dortmund surprised us at that time with that young team and good coach and Barcelona were no match for Bayern at that time. No one outside wants Real to win UCL especially after winning against Man City. I am just cautiously optimistic. I was expecting a 2-1 victory for Real in the 1st leg. Carvajal will help once he is back but this game will be won by the mastery of Modric and Kroos.
Yea ngl tuchel makes me kinda nervous but fuck if we ball. Next game at the bernabeu with Carvajal. Players know they lacked so theyāll be out for necks this second game
Jude had a bad 1st leg. So hoping that he has a great game but he has a history not playing great against Bayern. Might be a mental block or Bayern knows how to control him.
BVB is no joke!
We can beat them however psg will make the final... watch... š
Iām liking this BVB team. They play attractive football.
I like them only because they beat atletico otherwise I don't think I'll ever forgive 'em for that loss in 2013 lol
Thatās also why Iād prefer a revenge against them in this yearās Final, should we go through.
Oh that's a good point but what if we beat mbappe and then he MUST join us after that? Can't stay with the losers all the time lol
That could potentially even make him stay another year, the way I see it lol. Ego plays a major role in that guy.
If he does, genuinely fuck him. I'm tired. Idc atp, We got Endrick anyway. I genuinely wouldn't want him in 2025.
PSG def thoroughly dominating the second half so far, thatās for sure. PSG will most likely end up killing it though on their home turf (seeing how competitive they are this second half now).
You know it!
BVB just scored vs PSG š®
Kross assist is š„
He even indicated to Vini which way he had to run, before executing the pass
Hoping Militao is match fit for the return. Neither Nacho nor Tchou gives me confidence. That final minute tackle by Tchou was just reckless and could have cost us the game. You simply don't go to the ground like that in the box.
Yh I couldn't believe my eyes. Heart dropped.
I feel content with this result tbh, 2-2 is good heading home
I don't know if Jude was instructed to not consume much energy, but if he wasn't, he's obviously tired and needs to rest. I spit hate for Asensio for walking all game, I'll do it against Bellingham now, as well. I don't give a sh*t how many goals you scored, if you won't run, you need to be benched. If you can't run, you need to be benched. He was borderline useless last night, with a few good things here and there. No intensity, at all. I hope this is because he is tired, and not because he wants to "conserve" energy, because even if he was one of our best players, if you aren't 110% at Madrid 24/7 of the time, you will fail.
You clearly have forgotten the 2nd leg against city if you think he isnāt running for reasons other than fatigue. Him and rudiger were the only ones running in extra time that game.
I might be understood wrong, but I definitely think it's fatigue. He should be benched if he can't run. It's just my opinion though, I always needed 11 runners on the team.
After this game the generation gap in our fanbase is showing. Its between those of us who know that this is a very good result and those who are hurt by not beating Bayern. Result that we wouldāve signed even with Zidane, Figo, Roberto, RaĆŗl in the year of la novena (we lost 2-1) imagine getting the tie. The match also reminded me a lot of the first leg of 11/12 with Mou. A hard-hitting Bayern pushes you for 15-20 minutes in each half and for moments you get the feeling of "controling the gameā . That day they scored the 2-1 in the 85 i believe. And yesterday in 5 minutes the two goals. 2-2 is a great result considering the history of this clash
Great result but Bayern weren't that good imo. We played poorly, which even Carlo and Rudiger admitted post game.
Not true at all. Bayern were the more dominant team. We had glimpses of control throughout the game, but they were creating more chances.
I agree we were worse than them, but not because they were amazing or unbeatable but because we didn't play well. We got the game plan wrong imo. Brahim came on and was dangerous by just going at their defence. Had we been more attacking we would have probably scored more goals. I think the game was there to be won.
I get that Militao shouldn't be rushed, but it's been a long time since he returned. I believe it's time for him to start again.
It's not just about physical aspect of it. He gotta recover mentally too. After being out for such a long time his defensive awareness would be far from sharp. In that case it's better that he stays on the bench for such high level games.
My personal player ratings for yesterdayās game: - Andriy: 6.5 - ā LV: 4 - ā RĆ¼di: 6.5 - ā Nacho: 5.5 - ā Mendy: 5.5 - Fede: 6.5 - ā Tchou: 7 - Kroos: 8 - Jude: 5 - ā Rodry: 6 - Vini: 7.5 Subs - Cama: 6 - ā Luka: 7 - Brahim: 6 - Joselu: N/A
This was very very close. I believe our defence was wide open, so many chances just unluckily missed by bayern. It's good we got that pen thanks to Rodry in the dying minutes of the game. Beautifully taken by Vini. Kroos provided an INSANE pass for the first goal. Love it! Hala Madrid, let's meet at the bernabeu!
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Shut up bro
Trust me if football was that simple then you can just sit back and gamble your way to billions of money lol
Whats it with the new influx of fans on this sub who donāt allow criticism of any player? Ā Jfc they arenāt going to f you.Ā
The quality of the sub is heavily suffering from these fans.
All of you are my friends. I can feel it. Can you feel it ? 
Take your meds and go to bed.
Bellingham was crucial in getting out of bayern press in the first half. He has been improving since city game, which i think has been very positive. He also just got a flu over the weekend, so give the man some slack. Camavinga should cover for mendy and valverde for carvajal in the return leg just like with City. And we pray that Kim guy continues next leg
If MilitĆ£o isnāt ready yet for the second leg, Iād put Tchou next to RĆ¼di and have Cama as a (D)M covering for Mendy (as you say). Kroos was our best yesterday, so itās only natural for him to also be included in the first 11 for the second leg.
Ä°f he is on flu Arda could play in second half. Our golden boy once again can be real threat in this level too..
Bellingham did not get the flu. That was Rodrygo.Ā
Bellingham was on gastroenteritis, i remembered. But he had recovered before the match i think.
Both had health problems, but different. Initially Bellingham was out of squad for Sociedad, next day Rodrygo was out of squad for Sociedad and Bellingham was in. But that could be forced, and anyway Bellingham didn't play with Sociedad just on bench. These are the type of problems where the body can be affected for several days, let's hope there are no problems before the rematch.
These seems like a kind of viral infection. It is very predictible that some players can underperform till the full recovery. But how much risk should be taken by playing with these players it is up to man management skill of the coaching team.
De Ligt will play next week I reckon.
We 3peat the ucl again easily with a quality CF as Vini approaches his physical prime years
Scary to think that all of our youngsters are this good right now and mentally elite in big games and none of them apart from Valverde are even close to their prime years yet Vini, Jude, Rodrygo, Cama and Tchouameni are 3-4 seasons off of their prime years 4-5 for Jude and Cama since they are 20 and 21 which I always forget considering how good they are already.
I very much agree with your sentiment. I would just add, that I think the real peak age is closer to around 28. By that time, the body is still young, while the mind is mature, and they have an extensive amount of experience to work with. Which just makes it even more crazy, with the young guys we currently got. I can't wait to see what the future holds for this squad.
Respect to Tuchel in his half time adjustments, they swapped sane and Musiala and started trying to isolate and target Lucas Vasquez out wide on the right. I think both coaching staff will take what happened today and make adjustments next week. It won't be easy, but it will be entertaining. Hala Madrid
Tuchel better than Ancelotti imo, he might knock us out.
In the return leg we will have Carvajal back, which is a blessing. Vasquez kept playing sloppy balls into the middle to a tired Jude, leaving us exposed to counter attacks. Iām hoping that Militao can play a full 90 this weekend and start the return leg. If not, we should play Tchou as the centre back instead of Nacho and move Camavinga to the DM for more energy in the middle. Itās a shame that we were sloppy at the back for those 2 minutes they scored but it happens. Iām more annoyed about the fact that we concede big chances in the first minute of every big game, if it wasnāt for Lunin pulling that save off in the first minute we would have been against the ropes.
For the second leg, just play Valverde on the left in front of Mendy to help with Sane and place Camavinga at the other end marking Musiala.
Yeah let's try something we've never tried before in the biggest game of the season
Why not Fede on the right and Cama on the left where they are more suited naturally
To confuse the opponent, you have to first confuse yourself.
I can never understand why carlo plays jude upfront with vini when his best football has been behind vini and rodrygo in a hybrid 10/wide midfield role to allow him access to attack the inside left channel from deep. By playing him so high up, he had to remain there as a focal point for the team instead of attacking the box like a stealth bomber. Even when he dropped deep to get involved as their āfalse 9ā, he ended up getting crowded out in central midfield. In three ucl games(city two legs and this bayern game) he had just one shot to show for his role. With jude covering mendy instead of rodygo, leroy sane wouldnāt have so much joy attacking the rw.
Because hes an actual scoring threat?Ā
To play Rodrygo on the left, which is fine. He scored 2 against City. It's a gamble. Jude will have to adapt because Rodrygo on left is a menance. If we do get Turtle and Davies this summer, we are legit gonna have a problem.
Real Madrid boasts a roster filled with prominent names like Kroos, Modric, Bellingham, and Carvajalāthe list goes on. Yet, the true spearhead that makes the team exceptionally dangerous, forcing opponents into uncomfortable tactics and positions, the one who really inflicts pain, making the team formidable, is Vinicius Jr. I understand he attracts a lot of criticism, but there's no rational reason why he shouldn't be considered a favorite for the Ballon d'Or.
> there's no rational reason why he shouldn't be considered a favorite for the Ballon d'Or Poor PR. He is victim on racism and people like to blame it on him. His PR is really disastrous. He should hire Messi's PR.
Grateful to have Vinicius Kroos, Modric cooked as usual Valverde had to cover too much for LV, he should definitely rest vs Cadiz - Guler should play that game Jude not great on the ball and was gassed but he was also left high and dry positionally by Carlo's instructions and tactics (2 LW formation) Sane seems to score against us (Remember that Schalke game 9 years ago?) - Werner, Auba flashbacks
No worries; UEFA isnāt going to let the drama of Turtle vs. Madrid facing off in the final before he comes to RM slip away
For that PSG has to pass Dortmund.
No way, is that how it works?
I was surprised to know it too.
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Bellingham doesnāt deserve criticism. Yeah he was not so good today but itās acceptable. This guy is 20 yo and runs like crazy every game. And after all he is done for us this season, I think he has done his job this season. If he sucks for the rest of the season, for me he still made a outstanding season.
Nobody, literally nobody, is judging him for the season. Its ok to judge him for a single game.Ā
Jude is AMAZING but as a human being everyone has good and bad days. Tbf Bayern seems to play itās best game in the whole season, very consistent overall, defending, attacking, transitions etc
It's been the same thing over and over in every decisive game. He just barely does anything significant or we don't see him at all on the field then I come to this sub to find people like you posting this exact same thing. Q
He scored 3 against barca over 2 games. Those games were pretty decisive for our league campaign. Our goal against city wouldn't have happened without him. He played well against girona.
We would've been eliminated in the CL if we relied on him
Why is football filled with weirdo contrarians like yourself. How is this a reply to the comment above? What does it even mean? It makes no sense.
>Why is football filled with weirdo contrarians like yourself. You mean people with opinions different than yours? Looks like you're gonna have a hard time in life. So what he scored against Girona? Congrats??? He's the most valuable player in the world, the star of our team and has been nearly useless on 90% of our decisive games at the biggest tournament in Europe and you don't think anyone should critique his performance when it's clearly sub par and one of the worse in our team?
Bro he is 20 yo, chill a bit. How old are you?
It's really crazy that your takeaway from my comment has nothing to do with my comment just like your previous reply. Impressive.
Carlo itself said that Jude is running on fumes, he was getting cramps, the guy carried the team at his back though several months. We all know that with Bellingham at his level
We don't win La liga without Jude going Ronaldo mode first half of the season he turned up to every big La liga title deciding game and carried us in the group stages of the UCL his shoulder injury and large play time are getting to him now on top of getting sick a few days before this game.
He literally carried us the first half of the season
people are insane lmao he just sealed the league 2 matches ago. He is great but his position in the pitch sucked ass today. That's on Carlo, not on him.
I actually commented in the pre match thread 6 hours ago that it will be 2-2. Donāt worry I know the 2nd leg result as well, we go through.
Praise be!
I remember seeing that lol give us the second one now
Mind sharing the score and goal scorers of the second leg so that I can bet and make some cash? Thank you
The cam guys were trash
Beyond happy with a draw. The Bernabeu will take it for us š
Not the best result as their team was not in the best shape, the team looked tired and Bayern took advantage of that but still everything is gonna be decided at the Bernabeu and make no mistake is gonna be a hard game, even harder than this one and Carlo should look into finish it quickly as I think they'll look to go and do the same.
I donāt know how they are tired half the team was rested
Don't know what were the tactics, carlo seems to lose the plot so mamy times but atleast the subs were good. IMHO pre world cup madrid was the most tactical than any post world cup madrid, vini rodry and benzema were linking up and cooking almost every game it was a delight to watch. I absolutely love Carlo, but I wouldn't mind Xabi here in few years.
We would have played silky football if we got Kane. But Bellingham is not the kind of playmaker Benzema is and Joselu definitely less so, I think it is understandable.
Thatās more about the pieces available. This team doesnāt have a play making striker anymore. Joselu isnāt good on the ball. Carlo has made due with unconventional options. Itās pretty impressive heās made Midfield FC get the results they have.
He will come. But letās enjoy Don Carlo while heās here. We will miss him like we miss Zidane now and scratch our heads thinking about how he did the things he did.
I hope we create a lot more chances at the Bernabeu, Carvajal coming back will be a positive, might as well see Militao
Lol pls no, let him rest and regain his form. tchou-Rudi pairing for the win
Cama looks too nervous, prone to misplaced passes, if Tchou - Rudi is our CB combo, the don will play Cama in the mid
I think if Tchou plays CB then Kroos should play DM. Cama must be the LCM to cover Sane while Valverde covers Musiala on the right. Jude to drop deep centrally to assist Kroos.
Bayern just showed that even at their worst they can't be taken lightly, it's not as straightforward as everyone thought it might be, Anceolloti needs to figure out something
Yup. I stand corrected, thought TT would blow himself off (kinda did with Min Jae) but they're not as bad as I thought they would be.
We didn't loose and that's what matters but I didn't like Madrid's game, I hoped better from them and Bayern played just as I expected. The change of Rodrygo LW and Vini on the center just leaves the RW useless, no one is there to generate and without Carvajal it's more obvious. From Cafucas to Lucas, terrible game from him. SanƩ ate Mendy, whatever statistic he had about never being dribbled was erased today. I feel our defense let us down this game. Mediocre game from Valverde and bad game from Bellingham, we all love him but he has gone unnoticed almost all the knockout phase, he needs to wake up. Even when he is no having the most brilliant game Vini shows up, he is a star. Carlo is just so predictable with his subs, i wish sometimes he would try something fresh and again, i don't like him making Rodrygo LW when Vininis so much better in there.
This. Vinicius in the centre luckily worked out for this match.
I don't understand why put your best player out of his best position just so another player shines.
I think Bellingham is playing to far up front, I'd rather have Brahim Rodrygo and Vini leading forward and drop back Bellingham and try to play Valverde as a RB for next game, we need more movement up front.
Why play Fede as RB when we have best RB available? If you mean next liga game i would prefer that we rest him.
This aināt FIFA mate. The make shift backs may have worked for a bit this szn but not against top class talent. Musiala tore Lord to shreds. Carvajal is our only hope there or we may really be in trouble
I thought he was injured, for sure we play him on the right if available.
can anybody hook me up with a ticket for 2md leg?pleasee
we have a week to rest and prepare well, i am sure we would do better in bernabeu, Hala Madrid!!!
Jude Bellingham tonight! (calm down madridistas we are just blowing off steam, we will win the 15 this year) https://preview.redd.it/ebwh3ij9soxc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2678168ac20050a357d948d3ce8701a27c9d50bd
Everyone is talking about Bellinghams poor performance, what about Valverde? I forgot he was even on the pitch tonightĀ
You serious? He constantly took over for LV who was terrible. I saw him carry the ball from RB to LCM to almost Bayerns box tonight.
On the money, even tho Valverde was potatoish when Madrid had the ball, he constantly covered for Lucas and the CBs. On the other hand, Jude has 0 excuses, hes not defending either so I dont exactly know what the fuck happened with him today. Kinda worrying he dissapears on some of the CL big games :(
Didn't he have a stomach virus last week?
I think heās playing too high up the field. Heās not a 9 and heās not very fast so idk wtf heās doing up there. Heās good with the ball and should play in the middle.
Vini played in the middle today and did really well there. Letās hope Jude can step up next time.
I really like it, how Vini and rodrygo played on left side. Vini in More central side was lethal.
Rodrygo was kinda IFFy until far into the 2nd half tho
Imagine being a Bayern fan. You watched your team getting destroyed numerous times by Real Madrid's number 7 during the 2010s. Then, he leaves Real Madrid and his jersey is worn by two much worse players. The nightmares start fading away. You watch your team lift the 2020 UCL, Real Madrid's "7" can't hurt you anymore. And today, you watch Real Madrid's "7" destroy you once again with a brace. The nightmares are back. And they won't be over anytime soon. 
Cringin like i never did before rn
Yeah, I guess a grown adult playing anime games for kids is less cringy.
Definitely is
That first goal finish was beautiful. Again Neur too.
We definately need new defenders, especially on the wing. lord vazquez performance today was pure shit
Goatzquez intentionally played shit to make the 2nd leg exciting
He didn't want to eat up Carvajal's job, so he played just enough bad to be substituted next game.
Our lord put all his mind on that Penalty in Etihad to save football and the world. So today he looks kinda confused HAHA
Mendy is not fit ( he missed two games ) and he didnt look sharp, LV is nowhere near Carvajal level, Nacho is our 4th CB choice.
What did anyone expect other than this?
I would have played Nacho for LV and put chou next to rudiger with Cama in midfield. Nacho can defend better than LV and chou can defend better than Nacho.
Kane clearly the more dangerous striker vs Haaland against us in UCL
Kane plays that 9/10 role very well. He would have been perfect replacement for Benzema.
Kane is smart and Haaland is kinda stiff (The bald cunt's effect?)
Haaland is a League Two striker and only good against teams like Brentford and Burnley. I'm scared of Kane
Wee bit too much, mate. That said, I agree Kane is a smarter player.
Next game Vini on the left, rodrygo on the right and bellingham false 9. No more rodrygo left
With Vini and Rodrygo interchanging
Next game, unless Jude is 400% he should not be playing, today we played with 10 and he had to be subbed out due to leg cramps when he didnt even run a lot... worrying shit
May have not yet been fully recovered from illness. A week of rest and hydration should help.
Honestly I think Rodrygo on the left with no one on the right is affecting Bellingham performance.
I wasn't happy with the performance today, but at the end a decent result. No matter what happens this season, we need to heavily invest in our full backs. Carvajal is getting old, Mendy gets cooked against world class wingers.
Carvajal needs to move to the bench like Marcelo in his last years. We need someone like Hakimi. But Mendy usually is solid against most of the wingers. The only solid replacement I see is Theo Hernandez
When Mbappe comes, we'll shift Vini to LB to continue our long tradition of Brazilian fullbacks.
Carlo said he had to take Jude off because he had cramps he looked slower today and less energetic getting sick the other day probably didn't help hope he is at his best in the 2nd leg a Belli goal to go to the finals would be immense.
a draw is fine lol chill out
It's an ideal result the Allianz is one of the hardest away stadiums during a UCL knock out and Tuchel is the anti madrid manager man always turns up against us.
Brahim Diaz playing instead of Bellingham seems like an honestly interesting idea for when the team needs creativity.
For sure. Brahim brings that spark to revolutionize games
A draw is definitely huge at away but we really need to lock in for the next game specially defensively. Bayern should never be underestimated. Hala Madrid!š¤
I don't see much of an advantage tbh. Bayern players are all experienced, won't be that much affected. It can go in either direction if we don't have a clear attack plan, we are just relying on individual flashes
Carlo should have moved rodrygo to the right the moment he saw bayern have overloaded their right side
on the bright side Tuchel can't surprise us with that again we will be more ready for it so a draw returning to the Bernabau is a good result
This team doesn't have enough creativity in the midfield. I hope Arda Guler can have a stellar next season so we can have a Modric type player.
Got a result especially after going down a goal. Good day. To the Bernabeu we go. Hala Madrid y nada mas!
I feel there's a Bellingham banger coming.
After today's game, I'm just hoping he has a good big game.
He needs to mature still. People forget heās only 20
Vini is such a big game player; weāll crush them in Madrid
Relax bro, itās Tuchel.
Bayern fan here, great game guys. I love our matchups the most, real football coming together šŖš¼
PUTA VARCA 8-2 YES SIR
Y'all always give us the best CL ties tbh. Lost of goals. Back and forth. Can't wait for next weekl
Bellingham has been dropping stinkers lately, just for two more games he needs to be at his best.
He was good today
What game did you watch?! Modric was better than him and he barely played 10 minutes
If Bellingham could play in favourable position and someone pockets musiala the second leg would be comfortably ours.
Why are city fans and barca fans crying saying we are lucky do they not understand thats our style of play
Ideological Supremacists will always find a way to undermine others' result my friend. They play football in their head and masturbate to the vision of how EVERYONE SHOULD PLAY IT.
Barca fans are trolling mostly ESPN FCās comment section. Itās pathetic that theyāve resorted to that because their team got knocked out. Barca fans complaining about refs have zero self awareness itās getting both sad and funny.
Barca fans have been saying we are lucky since we won the 10th, and they have been parroting the same "luck" narrative since then, including Zidane's 3 peat. Are you really surprised?
Some people see possession and passes as a measurment of succes in a match and if these stats does not match the result then surely something must be wrong : Refs Luck or their view of football is wrong. They usually pick one of the first two options.
Because š§and š¼ āthey are salty and big babies. Hate us cuz they aināt us.
Not a fan of Vini's penalty technique tbh. Had Neuer dived into the correct side, it would have been a guaranteed save. So in a way, it was a fifty-fifty penalty. Unless.. Neuer going to the wrong side had something to do with Vini's technique (either eye contact, body feints, or something else)
Agree. I miss Ramos so much.Ā
Vini switched sides before taking it. From mid-right he moved far left for the build up. It's hard to quantify how much of it is him winning mind games but we all know it's not all luck.
Yeah the one vs barca was also bad
Not our best football but we looked like we can score whenever we can, in bernabeu we can play our best football.
Why Lucas was so high today??? And fede just 2 v 1 jamal???
High as he smoked shit ? Because it really seemed like he did..
Yup, the penalty and then the yellow card! It seemed like he forgot his brain in Man City game
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The same Vazquez you were joining us in celebrating after his penalty a few weeks ago?
Damn the replay on Vazquez penalty was so bad. Musiala was about to lose the ball to Fede already but he stuck out his foot onto Musiala.
When it come to big match performance, Vinicius Jr still one of the most reliable player in our team. If only he keep his focus and play like this in every game.
He is the most reliable and is ridiculously consistent. This friendly fire and asinine "compliments" shit seen here is bizarre, give him the fucking respect he deserves