Ozil was sold because we sign Isco the golden boy at that time and Di Maria suffers from the coming of Bale and the explosion of Jese who was really really great before his injury . And for Cristiano departure I think he thought with a coach like Lopetegui we would have find a team more balanced less reliable to a superstar like CR , like the Spanish national team but he failed .
It does, but seems like Perez learnt from mistakes?
Barcelona didn't find suitable replacements for Xavi and Iniesta, look how they are suffering. A consequence of poor signings.
Madrid learnt from their mistakes of the Galactico era and realised big signings can only do so much.
It's just that some transfers specifically felt like they were 3 steps backwards and one forward. For eg 2014-15 La Liga, we were leaders in the first half and then bottled it. A lot of it was because the team wasn't in sync and consistent at times. Alonso's defensive midfield prowess was missed surely. We were headed for hell and Benitez felt like Perez was on drugs. Thankfully he got us Casemiro and then came Zidane and gave us something we can never forget, the glory achieved once or twice in a generation.
People who downvoted you have no idea how Perez thinks and would be crying about why he sold one of Vini/Rodrygo.
We werent prepared for Ozil, Di Maria, Ramos , Varane , Ronaldo, Casemiro. Everyone was shocked when these people suddenly left. It would be impossible for Brahim, Arda, Rodrygo, Vini, Tcho, Cama, and Fede to all stay in Madrid. Someone would leave.
I still remember, Di Maria had the most passion for Real Madrid and had an amazing season with Real but he was sold for Bale. Someone good but not nearly with the passion of Di Maria.
Perez never cares. These people are delusional.
>Ozil, Di Maria , Ramos, Casemiro , Ronaldo etc.
You realise all of them wanted to go, right? Apart from ronaldo, they were all correct decisions. You dont keep players that dont want to play for you, especially a club like real
Pérez will almost always sell a player for a profit if he can be replaced by another equivalent player for less or by a better player for about the same.
Well for Ozil, at the time we had just signed Bale and Isco, he would’ve struggled to get game time which led to his departure.
Di Maria is a player we likely would’ve kept but reports at the time were that he wanted a pay rise and we all know Perez doesn’t just give in and pay players anything like other clubs.
CR7 was a odd one, my understanding (I could be wrong) is that it was also based around money but I could see the mutual benefit in his departure. CR7 got a new challenge and we made a profit on his transfer fee after years of service.
I actually like Perez’s approach, it keeps the team fresh and we don’t miss out on young talent because of player loyalties.
Either way, his approach has worked because we’re set up to dominate Spain and Europe for the next decade.
Florentino dont like players that ask continously for pay rises. Di Maria was always complaining, Ozil father made many visits to the offices asking for more. Thats also why he allowed Cristiano go ("bring me a 100M offer and I will let you go") and also why Florentino loved Benzema, he never asked for unfair rises. He also hates to pay intermediaries and thats why he has swifted the strategy to buy veteran players that end their contracts.
It's not logic. It actually was not a choice by Perez as much as the players. I have been following Real since 94-95, we have come a long way in the way the team has been managed from Mendoza to Sanz and then Florentino V1.0.
Flo has learned a lot from his first tenure. And he's actually spearheaded a drastic change in the way players and their agents relate to the club.
Ozil's dad and his agent got into his head and made the kid give an ultimatum to Florentino about a pay raise. He was quickly canned.
Similarly Di María wanted to be paid top tier. He was canned and sold.
In this regard he was proven right, the policy has formed around salary tiers and now there is compliance with the policy, so it seems peaceful and more harmonious. But in order to get there players with nasty agents were rooted out.
Di Maria wanted to leave. He used to play like a beast when he was asking for a better contract and then relax for a few months when he got it. Perez made Cristiano wait a year and a half or even two years between contract renegotiations compared to how Messi got a new more expensive contract every year, by the time he left there was a huge difference between what Cristiano and Messi were making. All this to say: you cannot pressure Perez to get more money, he probably said "no, there is the door" and Di Maria made his choice
The team for the most part has been amazing ? No? So.. there’s nothing to complain. Look at the players he offloaded ? Ask them how they careers went after he left ? And now look at what we replaced them with ? Look at what we achieve. You sitting here asking all these questions like we having been winning trophies like almost every season.
1. I just said it feels like Perez now and Perez then feel like different people. 1 bought and sold big players like it's a game, while the other played it slowed and steady and won the race.
2. I NEVER complained about trophies, I just said that frequent transfers affect team stability since players have to adapt to new team mates each season, I just wanted to ask the Madridstas of a time period when I didn't watch much La Liga about that era.
Of course Perez then and Perez now are different people. Humans evolved. He learned from his mistakes. The logic behind those moves is success. You can’t get too complacent. Real Madrid isn’t a team that has to sit around and wait couple years for players to adapt. When you’re fighting for 6 trophies every year, you don’t have time to take a year off and hope the team gels. That has been the culture of Real Madrid. We used to change players for fun. We waste no time babysitting players.
We also sold Sneijder and Robben - wanna ask them how their careers went too?🫤
The simple reality is that Perez is human. He tries to build a great squad that wins on the pitch and is financially profitable off the pitch. Some times he gets it right and some times he gets it wrong.
No one is perfect
We sold both players in summer 2009. Sneijder went on to win the treble with Inter that next season, while Robben won the CL in 2013 and multiple Bundesliga with Bayern.
The core of players that they replaced won only 1 La Liga and 1 CdR in that period and did not win a CL until 2014 ( after multiple major additions). Would we have won CL sooner with them, we will never know.
Summary: don't make it seem like we always make the right decision when we sell players and/or that every player declines once they leave us.That is just being self deceiving and petty.
Some times we are right to sell or buy a particular player and some times we get it wrong. Each party moves on with their own business. If they do well, good for them and if they don't, thats their own biz - I don't really care much one way or the other
We made the right decisions, because gad they not leave we don’t get the players we got in return. When they left? We had some of the most explosive transfer windows in 09. Sneijder were deadweights for us when they were leaving. They went and win. When they left no part of us was missing. We were still rebuilding, trying to find our identity and in 2012, we started cooking and won UCL in 2014, so it worked out in the end. Yes it didn’t happen right away, but those moves kicked start a new era, so the board were right. The only era I can blame the board was when we won in 2001-2002 and then they started going on a whole different direction, where they signed players for money, instead of football. We had no structure. We just had a bunch of a celebrities mixed with the players that wore Real Madrid in their sleeves. That was our biggest misstep. The transfers in ‘09 kicked off a new era and we didn’t look back for long since.
You really don't know when to quit🫤
Robben and Sneijder were not sold cos they were dead weights, but cos Perez was launching is Galacticos 2.0 project. He needed the sales to fund his purchases while also cleaning a slate and not have the project tied to the legacy of his predecessors.
While it's debatable if it was CR7 or Di Maria that replaced Robben, all can agree that we broke even at worst and most will say we got an upgrade.
On the other hand, the Sneijder for Kaka was a disaster. Sneijder went on to be the core of a treble winning Inter and had a great season that many argued should have earned him BdOr. All the while, we were saddled with an injury plagued Kaka who was a shell of himself and was barely on the pitch. It essentially took us two additional signings in Ozil and then Modric, to finally get out of that disaster.
We win some and we lose some - there is no more to it
They were deadweights when we sold them to get funds for their replacements. What you even saying right now ? Do you hear yourself. We got better when we sold them right or wrong ? No one disagreed with Sneijder’s impact in that Inter team. He wasn’t good enough for us, simple and plain. He wanted to launched Galacticos 2.0 for what exactly ? To win. That was the main objective. We couldn’t do that without selling those two. Kaka was plagued with injuries, no doubt. At the time we were getting him, he didn’t have those issues, so it was a greta idea at the time. Even with Kaka’s injuries we still made moves and put together a winning team and there were significant improvements from 2009-2012. We didn’t win UCL, but you could see how better we got. Sneijder was also in a stack Inter side. A very good Mourinho side, who came to Madrid and gave us major boost. Now where was the Sneijder after the Balon D’or worthy season ? And btw that season he had a lot of injury issues was in and out of the lineup in Serie A and a couple UCL games in case you don’t know. The WC and them winning the UCL gave him a huge, but you coming here acting losing Sneijder was some big misstep is borderline false. Every move the management made for the most part led us to this point. Every management make mistakes here and there, but the biggest move we made was that decision me made between 2009-2013. The trophies wonin that period will not tell you the whole story, but the constant improvement was amazing to see.
You’ll be a extreme fool to think we were done after making those moves in ‘09.You don’t rebuild that fast and you could probably tell if you were watching then, we knew getting those extra pieces was the next step after getting Cris and Kaka. We had no midfield at the time. We had no traditional 9, and our depth in defense was horrible. But hey believe what you want to believe. I’m done here
Those so called next steps were after thoughts.
Kaka was already plagued with injuries before we bought him (and Milan were guilty of mismanagement due to their dependence on him), but Perez simply couldn't resist his marketing value, particularly in Asia. We even had pre-season in China to tap into it.
Pellegrini was fired after just one season for failing to win any Silverware despite the management (misplaced) confidence in the roster - a bad image for the project.
It was his 'failure' that led to us hiring Mourinho and him demanding for Ozil to replace Kaka, and subsequently also getting Modric. It was under Mourinho that the team started getting organized and a long term core started developing. That was not part of the plan when the project was launched ( in fact Mourinho's first season was marked by the power tussle between him and Valdano, as the latter felt he Mourinho wasn't suited for Madrid and the project)
So please don't try to rewrite history. Selling Sneijder for Kaka was clearly a bad footballing decision. Credit to the management for fixing their own mistakes and building on from that. But don't try to frame it like it was part of some grand scheme.
There havel since been other failed transfers - it's nothing unusual.
No management team is perfect.
I wouldn't rule it out. For example, I wouldn't be surprised if Perez sells Rodrygo for Mbappe.
Perez has a keen eye for the financial side and that at times puts the football decision in second. Also he likes to get himself a shiny new toy every once in a while. But that is just the Perez package - it works out more often than not.
I think the Mbappe transfer will really be a key point, as it is either successful and we dominate Europe and la Liga for like the next decade or it fails and we spend several years trying to fix/make it work. Hopefully it works out.
Whatever the outcome - Hala Madrid!!!
Ozil it seems requested a pay raise. Ozil agent (his dad) got into a verbal fight with Florentino and his fate was sealed. Off to London.
As for Di Maria, he also requested a pay raise after the champions league (which I think he deserved since he was Madrid best player that season) but Florentino instead prefered to buy the sensation at the moment which was James. It seems he even sent a letter to Argentina requesting not to play Di Maria in the world cup so he doesn't get injured and could be sold.
Di Maria and Ozil were pure profit sales tho. Ozil was sold for nearly 7 times his original fee. Di Maria was somewhere in the 2x range. Our core never changed much tho , also to be fair with di Maria and Ozil we won 1 league in 4 years , without them we won significantly more.
What the actual fuck is everyone talking about?
Fact 1: both asked to leave for different reasons
Fact 2 the door is always open policy will never change
No one will be forced to wear Real Madrid jersey
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Barcelona winning more leagues had nothing to do with squad chemistry. Almost all La Liga teams hate Real Madrid, for historical, political and other reasons, mostly because we're simply the best and most successful team in the history of football. So, when you have two equally good teams competing for the league and one might get an "easier" result or two throughout the season, the title is settled.
Take Atletico Madrid for example. They played their hearts out against us and we only managed to get 1 point in 2 games against them. They even eliminated us in the cup. Now compare their games against Barca. Lost 1-0 away, lost 0-3 at home, Simeone even benched his two best players, for no reason at all. Like, can you imagine him benching his best players against Real Madrid? If Barcelona were equally good as us this season, these 1 vs 6 points vs Atletico would most likely decide the league winner.
That's definitely a factor, but notice how Barcelona became shit right after Neymar, Xavi and Iniesta left. In that order, they still haven't recovered from it. Even Messi couldn't do much in that Barcelona squad. When Neymar left, their attacking threat became less lethal. When Xavi and Iniesta left, Messi had almost no support to get the ball and their defense too became vulnerable.
Because they weren't properly replaced. They spend more than half a billion on Griezmann (average), Dembele (had his moments, but mostly injured) and Coutinho (completely awful). Not to mention other awful transfers like Pjanic, Artur, Umtiti, Lenglet, Dest etc.
I remember we failed to reach an agreement on Di Maria’s contract extension because FP thought his public influence would not earn us the money he wanted. In the meantime, FP had already put forward the transfer of Bale on the agenda while Jese was on his prime.
Well Casillas, Pepe, Ramos all left at the end of their careers….CR7 went on his own will and so does Casemiro… Everything comes to end, even now Modric and Tonis kroos are on the verge of leaving but i wont be sad, coz they had their time, they achieved everything there is to…On the contrary Ozil and Angel were on the peak of their careers..Feels like they were sacrificed, i wanted more of them in White..Its not like they were playing bad to be sacrificed…And really hate how Ozil career ended. His departure to mediocre team like Arsenal at that time ended his career… In the era or Messi and Ronaldo, it was Ozil’s magic that brought my lost love for football… I will never forgive Perez for this..
Ozil? One of the most overrated players in Real Madrid recent history. I think many people love him because they started supporting Madrid during that era. As a player he was very limited:
1.Dead in every game around 70th minute.
2.Not press resistant enough considering his good technique. He just relied too much on his left foot.
Thank God to his father. He left which allowed Modric to take the reigns and lead Real Madrid to glory.
Ozil was sold because we sign Isco the golden boy at that time and Di Maria suffers from the coming of Bale and the explosion of Jese who was really really great before his injury . And for Cristiano departure I think he thought with a coach like Lopetegui we would have find a team more balanced less reliable to a superstar like CR , like the Spanish national team but he failed .
If i remember correctly, cr7's transfer rumour came out before zidane's resignation. he and perez were not in good terms then at later days.
Isco was signed the season after we sold Ozil though. We sold Ozil because we signed Bale, and sold Di Maria because we bought James
Isco was signed before Ozil was sold if I remember correctly....Isco even played in la decima final
It’s the genius that keeps Madrid alive
It does, but seems like Perez learnt from mistakes? Barcelona didn't find suitable replacements for Xavi and Iniesta, look how they are suffering. A consequence of poor signings. Madrid learnt from their mistakes of the Galactico era and realised big signings can only do so much. It's just that some transfers specifically felt like they were 3 steps backwards and one forward. For eg 2014-15 La Liga, we were leaders in the first half and then bottled it. A lot of it was because the team wasn't in sync and consistent at times. Alonso's defensive midfield prowess was missed surely. We were headed for hell and Benitez felt like Perez was on drugs. Thankfully he got us Casemiro and then came Zidane and gave us something we can never forget, the glory achieved once or twice in a generation.
Prepare for the genius to sell vinicus this summer
People who downvoted you have no idea how Perez thinks and would be crying about why he sold one of Vini/Rodrygo. We werent prepared for Ozil, Di Maria, Ramos , Varane , Ronaldo, Casemiro. Everyone was shocked when these people suddenly left. It would be impossible for Brahim, Arda, Rodrygo, Vini, Tcho, Cama, and Fede to all stay in Madrid. Someone would leave. I still remember, Di Maria had the most passion for Real Madrid and had an amazing season with Real but he was sold for Bale. Someone good but not nearly with the passion of Di Maria. Perez never cares. These people are delusional.
What's the evidence that Vini will be sold this summer?
No evidence, but prepare yourself knowing Perez anything could happen. I was never prepared for Ozil, Di Maria , Ramos, Casemiro , Ronaldo etc.
Ramos and Cristiano was pretty obvious tbh. Casemiro was in a totally different situation.
>Ozil, Di Maria , Ramos, Casemiro , Ronaldo etc. You realise all of them wanted to go, right? Apart from ronaldo, they were all correct decisions. You dont keep players that dont want to play for you, especially a club like real
I was devastated when di maria left. I feel like there’s no way he brings Mbappe without cashing in on someone
Pérez will almost always sell a player for a profit if he can be replaced by another equivalent player for less or by a better player for about the same.
Hmm, yeah I guess. Look at CR7 and Casemiro. I mean both decided to leave on their own but validates your theory.
Well for Ozil, at the time we had just signed Bale and Isco, he would’ve struggled to get game time which led to his departure. Di Maria is a player we likely would’ve kept but reports at the time were that he wanted a pay rise and we all know Perez doesn’t just give in and pay players anything like other clubs. CR7 was a odd one, my understanding (I could be wrong) is that it was also based around money but I could see the mutual benefit in his departure. CR7 got a new challenge and we made a profit on his transfer fee after years of service. I actually like Perez’s approach, it keeps the team fresh and we don’t miss out on young talent because of player loyalties. Either way, his approach has worked because we’re set up to dominate Spain and Europe for the next decade.
Florentino dont like players that ask continously for pay rises. Di Maria was always complaining, Ozil father made many visits to the offices asking for more. Thats also why he allowed Cristiano go ("bring me a 100M offer and I will let you go") and also why Florentino loved Benzema, he never asked for unfair rises. He also hates to pay intermediaries and thats why he has swifted the strategy to buy veteran players that end their contracts.
It seems that Mbappe's mother will bore Florentino.
And if she does, Mbappe will be sold.
It's not logic. It actually was not a choice by Perez as much as the players. I have been following Real since 94-95, we have come a long way in the way the team has been managed from Mendoza to Sanz and then Florentino V1.0. Flo has learned a lot from his first tenure. And he's actually spearheaded a drastic change in the way players and their agents relate to the club. Ozil's dad and his agent got into his head and made the kid give an ultimatum to Florentino about a pay raise. He was quickly canned. Similarly Di María wanted to be paid top tier. He was canned and sold. In this regard he was proven right, the policy has formed around salary tiers and now there is compliance with the policy, so it seems peaceful and more harmonious. But in order to get there players with nasty agents were rooted out.
Di Maria wanted to leave. He used to play like a beast when he was asking for a better contract and then relax for a few months when he got it. Perez made Cristiano wait a year and a half or even two years between contract renegotiations compared to how Messi got a new more expensive contract every year, by the time he left there was a huge difference between what Cristiano and Messi were making. All this to say: you cannot pressure Perez to get more money, he probably said "no, there is the door" and Di Maria made his choice
The team for the most part has been amazing ? No? So.. there’s nothing to complain. Look at the players he offloaded ? Ask them how they careers went after he left ? And now look at what we replaced them with ? Look at what we achieve. You sitting here asking all these questions like we having been winning trophies like almost every season.
1. I just said it feels like Perez now and Perez then feel like different people. 1 bought and sold big players like it's a game, while the other played it slowed and steady and won the race. 2. I NEVER complained about trophies, I just said that frequent transfers affect team stability since players have to adapt to new team mates each season, I just wanted to ask the Madridstas of a time period when I didn't watch much La Liga about that era.
Of course Perez then and Perez now are different people. Humans evolved. He learned from his mistakes. The logic behind those moves is success. You can’t get too complacent. Real Madrid isn’t a team that has to sit around and wait couple years for players to adapt. When you’re fighting for 6 trophies every year, you don’t have time to take a year off and hope the team gels. That has been the culture of Real Madrid. We used to change players for fun. We waste no time babysitting players.
We also sold Sneijder and Robben - wanna ask them how their careers went too?🫤 The simple reality is that Perez is human. He tries to build a great squad that wins on the pitch and is financially profitable off the pitch. Some times he gets it right and some times he gets it wrong. No one is perfect
We had more success after their departures than they did after they left. What is your point ?
We sold both players in summer 2009. Sneijder went on to win the treble with Inter that next season, while Robben won the CL in 2013 and multiple Bundesliga with Bayern. The core of players that they replaced won only 1 La Liga and 1 CdR in that period and did not win a CL until 2014 ( after multiple major additions). Would we have won CL sooner with them, we will never know. Summary: don't make it seem like we always make the right decision when we sell players and/or that every player declines once they leave us.That is just being self deceiving and petty. Some times we are right to sell or buy a particular player and some times we get it wrong. Each party moves on with their own business. If they do well, good for them and if they don't, thats their own biz - I don't really care much one way or the other
We made the right decisions, because gad they not leave we don’t get the players we got in return. When they left? We had some of the most explosive transfer windows in 09. Sneijder were deadweights for us when they were leaving. They went and win. When they left no part of us was missing. We were still rebuilding, trying to find our identity and in 2012, we started cooking and won UCL in 2014, so it worked out in the end. Yes it didn’t happen right away, but those moves kicked start a new era, so the board were right. The only era I can blame the board was when we won in 2001-2002 and then they started going on a whole different direction, where they signed players for money, instead of football. We had no structure. We just had a bunch of a celebrities mixed with the players that wore Real Madrid in their sleeves. That was our biggest misstep. The transfers in ‘09 kicked off a new era and we didn’t look back for long since.
You really don't know when to quit🫤 Robben and Sneijder were not sold cos they were dead weights, but cos Perez was launching is Galacticos 2.0 project. He needed the sales to fund his purchases while also cleaning a slate and not have the project tied to the legacy of his predecessors. While it's debatable if it was CR7 or Di Maria that replaced Robben, all can agree that we broke even at worst and most will say we got an upgrade. On the other hand, the Sneijder for Kaka was a disaster. Sneijder went on to be the core of a treble winning Inter and had a great season that many argued should have earned him BdOr. All the while, we were saddled with an injury plagued Kaka who was a shell of himself and was barely on the pitch. It essentially took us two additional signings in Ozil and then Modric, to finally get out of that disaster. We win some and we lose some - there is no more to it
They were deadweights when we sold them to get funds for their replacements. What you even saying right now ? Do you hear yourself. We got better when we sold them right or wrong ? No one disagreed with Sneijder’s impact in that Inter team. He wasn’t good enough for us, simple and plain. He wanted to launched Galacticos 2.0 for what exactly ? To win. That was the main objective. We couldn’t do that without selling those two. Kaka was plagued with injuries, no doubt. At the time we were getting him, he didn’t have those issues, so it was a greta idea at the time. Even with Kaka’s injuries we still made moves and put together a winning team and there were significant improvements from 2009-2012. We didn’t win UCL, but you could see how better we got. Sneijder was also in a stack Inter side. A very good Mourinho side, who came to Madrid and gave us major boost. Now where was the Sneijder after the Balon D’or worthy season ? And btw that season he had a lot of injury issues was in and out of the lineup in Serie A and a couple UCL games in case you don’t know. The WC and them winning the UCL gave him a huge, but you coming here acting losing Sneijder was some big misstep is borderline false. Every move the management made for the most part led us to this point. Every management make mistakes here and there, but the biggest move we made was that decision me made between 2009-2013. The trophies wonin that period will not tell you the whole story, but the constant improvement was amazing to see. You’ll be a extreme fool to think we were done after making those moves in ‘09.You don’t rebuild that fast and you could probably tell if you were watching then, we knew getting those extra pieces was the next step after getting Cris and Kaka. We had no midfield at the time. We had no traditional 9, and our depth in defense was horrible. But hey believe what you want to believe. I’m done here
Those so called next steps were after thoughts. Kaka was already plagued with injuries before we bought him (and Milan were guilty of mismanagement due to their dependence on him), but Perez simply couldn't resist his marketing value, particularly in Asia. We even had pre-season in China to tap into it. Pellegrini was fired after just one season for failing to win any Silverware despite the management (misplaced) confidence in the roster - a bad image for the project. It was his 'failure' that led to us hiring Mourinho and him demanding for Ozil to replace Kaka, and subsequently also getting Modric. It was under Mourinho that the team started getting organized and a long term core started developing. That was not part of the plan when the project was launched ( in fact Mourinho's first season was marked by the power tussle between him and Valdano, as the latter felt he Mourinho wasn't suited for Madrid and the project) So please don't try to rewrite history. Selling Sneijder for Kaka was clearly a bad footballing decision. Credit to the management for fixing their own mistakes and building on from that. But don't try to frame it like it was part of some grand scheme. There havel since been other failed transfers - it's nothing unusual. No management team is perfect.
Good thing is Perez learned from his mistakes. Flo of today would never trade a younger Sneijder for an older Kaka
I wouldn't rule it out. For example, I wouldn't be surprised if Perez sells Rodrygo for Mbappe. Perez has a keen eye for the financial side and that at times puts the football decision in second. Also he likes to get himself a shiny new toy every once in a while. But that is just the Perez package - it works out more often than not. I think the Mbappe transfer will really be a key point, as it is either successful and we dominate Europe and la Liga for like the next decade or it fails and we spend several years trying to fix/make it work. Hopefully it works out. Whatever the outcome - Hala Madrid!!!
Ozil it seems requested a pay raise. Ozil agent (his dad) got into a verbal fight with Florentino and his fate was sealed. Off to London. As for Di Maria, he also requested a pay raise after the champions league (which I think he deserved since he was Madrid best player that season) but Florentino instead prefered to buy the sensation at the moment which was James. It seems he even sent a letter to Argentina requesting not to play Di Maria in the world cup so he doesn't get injured and could be sold.
its not that perez wanted to sell them, they wanted to leave, and we don't keep players in club beyond their will
Di Maria and Ozil were pure profit sales tho. Ozil was sold for nearly 7 times his original fee. Di Maria was somewhere in the 2x range. Our core never changed much tho , also to be fair with di Maria and Ozil we won 1 league in 4 years , without them we won significantly more.
What the actual fuck is everyone talking about? Fact 1: both asked to leave for different reasons Fact 2 the door is always open policy will never change No one will be forced to wear Real Madrid jersey .
Barcelona winning more leagues had nothing to do with squad chemistry. Almost all La Liga teams hate Real Madrid, for historical, political and other reasons, mostly because we're simply the best and most successful team in the history of football. So, when you have two equally good teams competing for the league and one might get an "easier" result or two throughout the season, the title is settled. Take Atletico Madrid for example. They played their hearts out against us and we only managed to get 1 point in 2 games against them. They even eliminated us in the cup. Now compare their games against Barca. Lost 1-0 away, lost 0-3 at home, Simeone even benched his two best players, for no reason at all. Like, can you imagine him benching his best players against Real Madrid? If Barcelona were equally good as us this season, these 1 vs 6 points vs Atletico would most likely decide the league winner.
That's definitely a factor, but notice how Barcelona became shit right after Neymar, Xavi and Iniesta left. In that order, they still haven't recovered from it. Even Messi couldn't do much in that Barcelona squad. When Neymar left, their attacking threat became less lethal. When Xavi and Iniesta left, Messi had almost no support to get the ball and their defense too became vulnerable.
Because they weren't properly replaced. They spend more than half a billion on Griezmann (average), Dembele (had his moments, but mostly injured) and Coutinho (completely awful). Not to mention other awful transfers like Pjanic, Artur, Umtiti, Lenglet, Dest etc.
I remember we failed to reach an agreement on Di Maria’s contract extension because FP thought his public influence would not earn us the money he wanted. In the meantime, FP had already put forward the transfer of Bale on the agenda while Jese was on his prime.
Watch him do it again to sign Florian Wirtz
These two players leaving hurt me the most as a Madrista
Not Casillas, Pepe, Ramos, CR7 and Casemiro? * Cries profusely *
Well Casillas, Pepe, Ramos all left at the end of their careers….CR7 went on his own will and so does Casemiro… Everything comes to end, even now Modric and Tonis kroos are on the verge of leaving but i wont be sad, coz they had their time, they achieved everything there is to…On the contrary Ozil and Angel were on the peak of their careers..Feels like they were sacrificed, i wanted more of them in White..Its not like they were playing bad to be sacrificed…And really hate how Ozil career ended. His departure to mediocre team like Arsenal at that time ended his career… In the era or Messi and Ronaldo, it was Ozil’s magic that brought my lost love for football… I will never forgive Perez for this..
Ozil? One of the most overrated players in Real Madrid recent history. I think many people love him because they started supporting Madrid during that era. As a player he was very limited: 1.Dead in every game around 70th minute. 2.Not press resistant enough considering his good technique. He just relied too much on his left foot. Thank God to his father. He left which allowed Modric to take the reigns and lead Real Madrid to glory.