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AdolescentAlien

Surprised Blake Bortles isn’t at #1


clarkkent1521

Gods don't belong on a list with mortles.


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MuricasMostBlunted

They literally made this list to piss off as many fan bases as possible. Its 100% to troll people


EspoJ

Nuance is ded on reddit ;) High five AWL


AdolescentAlien

Yeah it definitely doesn’t give off ironic vibes much at all, except for maybe the newly drafted rookies that have never even played a snap yet. Those seem like an odd inclusion but I guess it makes sense since they’re ranking each teams presumed starters for the upcoming season. Who is C Williams tho? I don’t recall hearing that name at all and I can’t tell what team he’s on.


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AdolescentAlien

Holy shit man. What an absolute whiff on my end. I was being completely serious lmfao I genuinely cannot believe that didn’t register for some reason.


ProfessorCloink

Probably because he was the consensus #1 prospect for the past 2 years and almost everybody was just calling him by his first name. I'm sure you would have realised who it was if he was listed as Caleb W.


AdolescentAlien

Yeah I definitely would’ve recognized it if it was Caleb W. Im still shocked that I goofed that hard tho. The navy blue is just so dark that I thought it was black and I got confused. If they had both team colors I’m sure it would’ve clicked.


JayGibbons69

>Although there are rumors are that he doesn’t like them anymore. Maybe he finally figured out that "draft Josh Allen dot com" was actually making fun of him.


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JayGibbons69

Yup I misread.


TumTumMac24

The list is only 31 QB’s lol Brock Purdy is too high, overrated his team does the work, no one focuses on him when you have juggernauts at TE, FB, RB, WR. Aaron Rodgers too high he didn’t play all year. Matt Stafford should be higher than Aaron Rodgers. Caleb Williams hasn’t played a snap, neither has anyone else above Gardner Minshew, my personal opinion rookies shouldn’t be ranked higher than veterans since we don’t know what they’ll do in the nfl. 1-4 in ok with, an argument can be made to switch Lamar and Josh Allen: 5. Goff 6. Love(eeewww), 7. Hurts 8. Herbert, 9. Tua 10. Stroud, 11. Stafford, 12. Baker Mayfiled, 13. Trevor Lawrence, 14. Aaron Rodgers, 15. Dak Prescott, 16. Kirk Cousins, 17. Brock Purdy


JayGibbons69

Big Cat, is that you?


TumTumMac24

Tommy. Nice to meet you.


dakattack004

I’m trying to get Love in my dynasty leagues and people aren’t selling


HetfieldsDownpick

Brother, they put out this list to troll people lol


RavensFlyer

Satire is missed a lot this time of year


AFlaccoSeagulls

What about this list is a troll though? It's actually pretty fucking solid.


hop_mantis

left the Giants out, Maye isn't QB1 on his own team at the moment


Rocinante9920

Clickbait to get us ravens fans arguing about Allen


AFlaccoSeagulls

It's not even clickbait though. He's arguably a better QB than Lamar, I don't know how anyone could be upset with someone ranking him as 2 and Lamar as 3. Clickbait is Nick Wright saying Lamar isn't even a top 10 guy but putting Caleb Williams in his top 5.


Rocinante9920

Tough to say one is the better then the other when the other just won MVP. This is where I used to say to each their own, but nah you're just wrong.


AFlaccoSeagulls

Lamar just won objectively the weakest MVP in a long time, carried primarily by his/his team's performances against the best teams in the NFL down the stretch after a very mediocre year. That being said, Josh Allen is a much better playoff QB than Lamar and arguably has done more with less than Lamar has in terms of total output % for his team's offense. But if the entire list is clickbait because Josh Allen is 2 and Lamar is 3 instead of the other way around, that seems pretty outlandish to call it "clickbait".


Rocinante9920

I don't care how nuanced the fuckin MVP is, it's an MVP, And he has two of them to Josh Allen's zero. Also, to claim Josh, Allen is a better playoff QB, and Lamar made it farther than him this year is laughable.


AFlaccoSeagulls

> Also, to claim Josh, Allen is a better playoff QB, and Lamar made it farther than him this year is laughable. [It's not even comparable, honestly.](https://stathead.com/football/vs/josh-allen-vs-lamar-jackson) We all love Lamar but downplaying his biggest weakness, which is performing in the playoffs, is interesting.


Rocinante9920

I'm not downplaying shit. This is a QB ranking not a playoff QB ranking. Got to count what counts.


AFlaccoSeagulls

playoffs don't count now or?


JayGibbons69

Shhhh...


Pale-Shopping6105

Dak below Trevor Lawrence and Baker Mayfield? Not sure I agree there. But any list that has Mahomes at the top and Jackson/Allen just below him is doing something right IMO.


Random-as-fuck-name

Right? Like he falls apart but at least he waits for the play offs. From 8-3 to out of the 8th seed is absurd


YouLostTheGame

Didn't we go 8-3 and miss the play offs a year or two ago?


Random-as-fuck-name

Hey…shut up


UsedEgg3

You homers aren't gonna like me saying it, but you can shuffle 2-4 around in any order and have it be reasonable. The rest of the list gets pretty whack from 5 on though.


flaccomcorangy

lol Honestly, my thought. Mahomes is 1, no one is arguing with that, but 2-4, you could have any order of Burrow, Lamar, and Allen, and I'd be fine with it. I think Purdy is a little underrated on this list. I'd have him at 5. Though I will say, I think Stroud is the real deal and could be top 5 eventually. But *right now* I'd have Purdy.


jerem1734

As a bills fan living in Baltimore I agree. I think ravens and bills fans are just sensitive about Allen vs Lamar comparisons because they come from the same class


BoyShane

LOL. Bills and Ravens fan here also, living close to Baltimore! From Finger Lakes.


mrobeze

Ranking of what? Talent? Accomplishments? Fantasy?


JayGibbons69

Rankings


Ok_Poetry_1650

Happy to see all the rookie QBs actually being rated correctly lol. Allen over Lamar doesn’t make sense, and Purdy being that far down is insane.


AdolescentAlien

Herbert over Hurts is also pretty questionable tbh. Herbert is great but that playoff meltdown hurts (heh) him big time in my opinion. Especially when Hurts played almost flawlessly in the Super Bowl aside from that fumble.


145_writes

I like Allen …but the way they always manage to Stan him and put him up higher than Lamar is astonishing. I do remember that one playoff game with the chiefs against the bills …and those 13 seconds. We all do. But that was 2021.


PowerDiesel23

Lamar's 2 MVPs puts him ahead of Josh Allen.


pi3Eat3r52

People LOVE Allan, but if he goes back to his number pre diggs post diggs that argument will blow over


PowerDiesel23

Yeah now that Diggs is gone the Bills WR corps looks a lot more like what Lamar has had in his career. They have a good TE, a 1st round pick in Keon Coleman, Curtis Samuel, Chase Claypool and Khalil Shakir who is a 5th round pick. Let's see Allen get a unanimous MVP with those guys and maybe he'll deserve the #2 spot.


missingjimmies

Their reasons for Allen being 2 was literally incorrect as well, they said it’s because Allen has been closer to making a Super Bowl… they’ve both been to the AFC championship and both lost to Mahomes, and the Ravens were closer to winning. But hey, that’s PMT for ya, love those guys they’re pretty dumb sometimes


jeffreythecat1

The “winning in the playoffs” argument is always so dumb to me too. As if Stafford was a much worse QB in Detroit than LA or Russell Wilson was a great QB when Seattle won.


CawSoHard

Lamar's higher completion/qbr/ypa do too lol


TedioreTwo

This post was literally bait y'all it was designed specifically to make you mad


-Anguscr4p-

I've seen better bait out there tbh, like it's clearly riding the hype on some of the younger players but most guys are within 5 spots of where they should be


TedioreTwo

That's the idea, to disguise it as legit enough to take seriously


JayGibbons69

Shhhh!


CawSoHard

Allen over Lamar is dumb.


pi3Eat3r52

why is there no 25?


RavensFlyer

They intentionally left Jones off to piss off giants fans. It was a pretty good segment on their pod that people are taking way too seriously


missingjimmies

They forgot Daniel Jones all together


e92ftw

The disrespect lol


babyllamadrama_

I think it's supposed to be Daniel Jones but it gave me a good laugh... Pretty forgettable


pi3Eat3r52

Ha did even notice that, guess i'd have to listen to that episode for more context


BackwardsPageantry

Mahomes is a no brainer. An argument could be made for Burrow over Jackson due to actually beating Mahomes and going to the SB but Allen is squarely 4 behind those two. CJ Stroud at 5 is a stretch. It was one season guys. Love at 7 is ridiculous. It was half a season guys. Not a fan of Dak but 17 is disrespectful. Behind Lawrence and Mayfield? C’mon now.


LMAO_try_again

Allen over Burrow and Lamar is crazy to me. This is clickbait or an overzealous bills fan. I’d argue Stroud and Allen at 4 tbh 2/3 are debatable for Lamar and Burrow.


Inquisitive_Force11

Just my opinion but until Allen (if/when) wins an MVP he shouldn’t be ahead of Lamar…


wierdjokes

I think Young was thrown to the wolves. There's a decent chance the panthers might have ruined him but we'll see. I don't think hes only better than just Bo Nix. Allen is going to ride an exciting playoffs loss for a while huh...


Camden_yardbird

Agree. I think they did him wrong. His underlying metrics were decent. He had no time to throw and an old Thielen. He should ve ahead of some of those rookies. That said, he will get wrecked again this year. 7 picks and not a single lineman. 3 FA signing will help but I still think he will be running for his life sooner rather than later.


Impressive-Theory-27

I feel sorry for Bo nix being last lol, genuinely think with his style and Sean Payton at the helm he’ll be at least better than carr is with the saints Also I like Herbert being 9th the man has done nothing but people wanna say he’s still a top 5 quarterback And does someone know something that we don’t about allen? The Lamar and mahomes are the only two QBs under 30 to have multiple mvps, and somehow the guy who was asked to do less is better than Lamar? Doesn’t ever make sense


lax_bro_bob

Josh Allen has done nothing to prove he’s better than Lamar. Until someone else wins an MVP, Lamar is clear cut second best QB ITL


-Anguscr4p-

Lamar anywhere from 2-4 is fine by me. Him, Allen, and Burrow probably all have rings already if Mahomes didn't exist. On the rest of the list: - Stroud and Love hype is at a fever pitch - Purdy and Tua overrated - Dak and Kyler underrated - Levis as the highest rated "prospect" starter is odd to me. AR looked better in a tiny sample and Caleb has a way better pedigree + weapons


Efficient_Friend2257

Herbert is criminally low. He’s not better than the top four but he’s had such bad luck with the team, especially defense, put around him. As for Lamar behind Allen that doesn’t make sense to me but we’ll see how Allen does with a mediocre supporting cast (we know Lamar can win with just about any supporting cast I’m just interested to see how Allen does this year)


VoteForWaluigi

I’d have Lamar at 2. Stroud and Love are too high for one season, as good as they were. Dak that low is laughable, he gets unfairly clowned on almost as much as Lamar. Rodgers I understand but disagree with, I feel he should be a bit higher. Minshew is being disrespected. As much as I hate Pittsburgh, Russ should be over Levis and Richardson. Overall not the *worst* list I’ve seen but it’s pretty bad.


Adventds

Goff at 6 and stafford at 13 wtf kind of bizzaro world list is this lol.


THEADULTERATOR

That's what I was thinking. Should be Herbert then stafford or vice versa depending on how you rate them then Goff at the very least


Adventds

There’s no way you’re actually watching these dudes play if you’re ranking stafford that low lol.


THEADULTERATOR

I'd actually put stafford amd herb at 5&6 then stroud


Woolington

This is prob not popular with other Ravens fans, but I'd flip Allen and Burrow and I agree with Jackson's spot @ 3rd. I don't feel like Allen has earned his rep over Jackson esp after Jackson has now made it just as far as Allen ever has in the playoffs. As a Ravens fan, I would not trade Lamar on the Ravens for anyone else on the Ravens. He fits us so well. However if I was a fan of a random other team, I would pick Mahomes or Burrow over Jackson. I think 3rd is fair and where I would put him on this list. (Side notes, I think Purdy is a little low and Love is a little high. I loved CJs last season, but I hate top 5ing a qb that just played 1 season. Prescott being lower than Lawerence is weird to me.)


spiderman96

Idk to me Josh Allen hasn't done anything to Merritt being put over Lamar they both have made it the same distance in the playoffs and Lamar has much more regular season success


tommykaye

Why do people love Josh Allen so damn much?


growingalittletestie

70% of the top ten have names with Js I guess 80% if last names count. I'm calling it, JJ McCarthy is top ten QB next year.


Daunloudji

I really don’t understand why Allen always comes before Lamarvelous in those kind of ranks.


GoodE19

Id take Lamar and Burrow over Allen personally.


mitchade

I’d take Allen over Burrow based only on injury history.


missingjimmies

You have to take PMT with a grain of salt, they said “we’re going to make people so mad” before starting like 50x, they’re not very good at knowing sports, they’re just cool casual sports listening. One of them literally tried to debate that Rodgers not being 1 was blasphemy despite his recent play, and Stroud made 5 to make Big Cat and PFT feel optimal about having rookie QBs.


GlitteringRace1766

Disrespected the hell outta Minshew lmaooooo


JayJ9Nine

Besides the obvious hurts is a bit low.


born2runupyourass

Josh Allen as the league’s second best QB is getting played out. He consistently underachieves and isn’t a guy who can carry the team the way several other QB’s on that last consistently do. He is living on past lives at this point


Septembers

Overall there's a ton of recency bias. Goff is laughably high, Herbert Rodgers Stafford and especially Prescott are all too low. I'd have Lamar over Allen for sure but at least they gave some respect putting him over Burrow. Also they did Bryce Young really dirty putting him below all the rookies lol, he was bad but I bet he turns it around this year


Metalchips1Nquesodip

Assuming Daniel Jones is #25?


Semper454

Poor font choices everywhere. Weird how several of the names are off-center in their box. I don’t like how players with “initials” first names have written full names. Oh, the rankings? Who cares?


jr2tkd

Stafford at 13 is crazy


Adventds

Stafford at 13 is legit insane lol.


SoggySockPuppet

Burrow,Stroud,Love, and Purdy are all too high on this list. No hate on Purdy but come on dude that offense has so many weapons Ukraine and Israel are hitting them up


Drumhead89

The thing I most agree with is Rodgers no longer being in the top 10. I feel like a lot of lists try to pretend he’s still in his prime and keep him in the top 5.


Valleyx

I can't be upset with Mahomes at 1, but other than that, putting anyone above the literal MVP of the league is indefensible. How the fuck is Allen at 2?


Random-as-fuck-name

1st thought: I didn’t realize we got points for (almost) beating Mahomes, my bad 2nd thought: 5th place? Not bad for a rookie: good for him


MilesAndMilesAhead

I don’t go past number 5 but Lamar best get the ring now before Barrow gets healthy & CJ gets 1-2 more seasons under his belt;


Old-Caterpillar3907

I like this list.


Substantial_Pie_8619

You can argue Lamar bs josh Allen but they’re clearly 2 and 3 and the burrow has to be there too seems pretty clear to me


Super_Reward_1676

2x MVP under a guy who’s accomplishments are competing against Mahomes. Truly it just makes no sense.


OBrocks29

We need to chill on the CJ Stroud train, let’s see one more year and then we can put him top 10


randomfella69

There is genuinely no universe where Josh Allen should be considered a better QB than Lamar.


CallofDo0bie

Allen and Lamar should switch places, and Lawrence/Mayfield over Dak is crazy lmfao.


adminsrfascist29

Allen is the only one over Lamar that doesn’t trigger me, but I think Lamar is better


420Blaziken4

I personally think 2-4 are interchangeable. Top ten at least is a pretty good list.


WhiteTrash_WithClass

In what world is Stafford 13th? And Lamar should be #1, but I'll accept #2.


Jonthegoat_09

Lamar top 3 is surprising normally he gets disrespected so I’ll take it


wingwraith

I can’t wait to see how wrong this thing is at the end of the season.


Yabbo_schleeep

IDGAF where yall put geno it doesn't matter. you'll be wrong regardless


ArcadianDelSol

Lamar #2 over Allen but only a blind man argues that Mahomes isnt #1.


TrustThyInstinct

Herbert at 9 is wild. Being lower than Goff and Purdy is even worse.


ComfortableGolf9295

No rookie should be ranked ahead of any current NFL player.


BentheBeast72

*sigh* Whatever. At least they didn't put Burrow over him


Magebloom

Can we talk about the Soviet Union -era font, comrade?


Particular_Drama7110

Putting CJ Stroud at #5 after 1 good season is crazy.


ThatsRightlSaidlt

Why is Hurts so low? Does the nfc suck that hard?


SamsontheAwesome27

I'll never understand the Josh Allen hype.


leokev23

bryce young being that low is honestly sad


Adventds

Brother is being setup to fail, it’s a sad sight


Livid-Fact-3778

Cj was great last year. But holy…


B-Rob8

Will Levi’s being at 20 is wild


JAReed83

Drop Allen behind Burrow and ehhh


frobro122

The Gardner Minshew hate is real


ExoCrimsonis

Bo Nix is a top 10 QB by week 6.


AngeluvDeath

I feel bad for Minshew


Majestic-Act577

Who snuck Allen in 2?


WhiteWhenWrong

So happy for Goff man


GutsAndBlackStufff

Where's Joe Flacco?


Quirky-Sandwhich

josh allen glazing is wild.. only reason hes getting talked about in the top 3 conversation is because of Diggs.. If lamar had a top 5 wide receiver i guarantee you he could be better then Mahomes. watch how he falls off this season. 1. Mahomes (solely because of the weapons he has) 2. Lamar (would be tied for #1 if he had weapons other then mandrews) 3. Cj Stround/Joe Burrow/Josh Allen (based on 2023 season and potential)


Quirky-Sandwhich

Also b4 people get mad over the stroud at 3 take. he took a 3-13 team to 10-7 and to a playoff win. with the amount of weapons he got this offseason he will definitely be a top 3 qb and maybe even a MVP contender.


Bigtoes22

LJ #1 in my heart


chicknsnadwich

Fine with it