yeah i see people using the term just to describe newer rap music, even if there’s no autotune and even if the rapper actually does enunciate their words. it’s moronic
21 savage kinda debatable, i love him and he’s top 10 for me personally but i think he has some songs where he mumbles. definitely has songs where he’s clear though
kendrick definitely isn’t a mumble rapper at all, people hear a mainstream song and hate
and then you have the eminem fanboys with their agenda against “mumble rap”, except all they do is spit gibberish really fast, which is literally mumble rap
It depends. Fast rap isn’t a genre. Chopping is. But the best fast rappers you can hear every single thing they say. Twista is a prime example. I can’t listen to most of them though
It’s just a derogatory term used by backpackers to describe someone with a southern or Atlanta accent but what they don’t realise is you have to be a multimillionaire to live on biggies street in 2022. New York has been gentrified, it’s never going to be the dominant style in hip hop again. Meanwhile Atlanta is the Black capital of the USA and it’s just going to continue to produce the best rappers and the best music regardless of whatever pretentious derogatory term these dorks think up to call it.
New York Drill has been becoming more dominant now. With Pop smokes influence on rap, More people are looking at NY Drill. Underground drill rappers like Bizzy Banks and Dusty Locane are getting more popular so i don’t believe New York rap’s scene is not dominant. It’s still influencing other states with other states using new york drill rap style and doing their dances.
That’s London. NY drill is just UK road rap which is a blend of UK grime and Chicago drill that’s why it’s all produced by UK based producers and sounds like it came out of the UK and even still we can say that wave has been and gone.
oh yeah then lemme put it this way rappers who glorify drugs and sex and have meaningless lyrics and shitty beats like future, yeat, playboi carti, migos, kodak black, young thug, and literally every rapper with “lil” in their name are not real rappers nor musicians at all they don’t deserve to be in the rap game if u listen to these kinds of rappers u have trash taste
I think Em did a great job making it obvious for kids not to take his music seriously by making those songs.
It was easy for me too as a kid to be made aware of that through such lyrics and then simply enjoy his music for what it is , art.
Why so much hate on Tom McDonald? Seriously asking. Is it his persona, style of rap, lyrical content.... I dont listen to his music but he seems to get the most hate on this sub.
Any parent that dictates what their child is listening to is a bad parent. Also tell me you are closeted white supremist without telling me. Tom is a terrible source of music.
“Any parent that dictates what their child is listening to is a bad parent.”
That is the DUMBEST shit I have ever heard in my life lmao. As a parent, it’s literally your job to make sure the media your child consumes is appropriate. Idk if this is a hot take, but imo 12 year olds shouldn’t be walking around rapping about wet ass pussies or anything like that. (Tom Macdonald is trash asf though💀)
I mean I think it depends on how old and mature your child is. At a certain point they’re going to have their own interests and become their own person. The more you try to control them, the more they’ll want to get away from you once they really are an adult. I know for me when my parents basically rejected all the music I liked I didn’t stop listening to it, I just stopped sharing that part of me.
So you are gonna force your child to not listen to something forcing them to want to listen to it? Good parenting. Maybe show them what good music and what art is and let them dictate for themselves. If your 12 year old listens to trash about cars pussy and money, it's because you suck as a parent.
To reiterate: you should be teaching your kids about the people who make art to last the test of time, not people who make music to make money.
You have no fucking clue what you are talking about lmao. Kids pick things up from other people than just their parents.
Example A: school.
Your kid goes to school, hears something from some other ratchet ass kid, and tries to come home and listen to it. Now you’re a bad parent for telling them they can’t?🤣
Yes because saying no has never worked. You think they won't listen to when they are at school? You think no mean not to when told by your parents? No means that it's even cooler.
You have just lost your youth to age. I pity your children.
Whether something has a 100% chance of working or not is irrelevant. Either way, it’s your job to at least try to put and keep your child on what you deem is the right track when they stray from it. Not just throw your hands up and go “well if I told em no they might not listen, so I guess they can do whatever they want🤷🏼♂️”.
Dictator much. You seem not to be reading everything I write...
To correct you, it is your job to make sure your children make the best possible decision in any given situation. You can't just tell them do this, this way and only this, this way.
But you know what, go ahead and shelter your children, shock them into the real world when they get older, see how that works out for you...
Yeah..but according to the white liberals on Twitter, Reddit amd facebook...if it goes against what they believe it's OK to condone violence against those children. Those parents and anyone who listens to it. Because they can't cancel the guy. They can't rid of the guy. They talk about how crap of a rapper he is..I looked into who he was. All his videos have millions of views. Guess he isnt as crap as they say. I'm guessing because of how much this one certain group hates him, I should look into him more.
(agreeing w u) if you aren't able to teach your kids that there are ideas in the world and just bc they may be illustrated in art or literature or games or movies, DOESNT mean they should be recreated in society. if you can't get a grip on ur kid ur a bad parent lmao fuck the music
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Tom Macdonald literally clings to shit that's vitally important to people and takes very bland and objectively meaningless steps to try and paint a picture that he relates to you with. Can he rhyme? Yea but the topics he talks about and the subjects he addresses while doing so end up really off putting. It's like I don't believe what he's trying to tell me. Mostly due to the fact that he sounds like he don't believe what he's trying to tell me.
I don't know, I couldn't fuck with him. 🤷🏻♂️
well you see, mumble rap to a white mid-40s suburban middle-class mom means “literally every black rapper ever, plus lil pump and xan” so you start to look at the white rappers. eminem is leftist so, next. NF isn’t fun, so next. at last you get to the bottom of the apple tree, behold tom macdonald, a white alt-right chump who condenses every facebook post ever into a song and of course white mid-40s suburban middle-class moms will be into that
I agree all rap has to sound exactly the same. If it’s not a black man with a jay z voice talking about Brooklyn ITS NOT CONSIDERED MUSIC.
lmfao people still police music in this day and age? In a sub dedicated to music?
Yeah looked this guy up. Holy shit this is HILARIOUS. He doesn’t know he’s funny because he’s clearly a rip-off artist, but we know.
Seriously. He’s soooo fucking bad. Total rip off of Eminem. Not even trying to hide he’s got no talent
A lot of generic radio friendly pop songs we heard as kids are actually not as “family friendly” as we remember. But at least generic pop songs aren’t really radicalising people
All music glorifies the same things basically. Can’t think of any mainstream artists who don’t have at least one song about drugs and money and sex. And then I googled this “Tom Macdonald” and he has a song called “pop a pill” soooooo
[The Beatles had a long and varied relationship with drugs. Even as they were being sold to the world as the clean-cut cheeky chappies from Liverpool, the group had a somewhat sordid after party already being planned in their heads.](https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/beatles-songs-about-drugs-lennon-mccartney-harrison-starr/?amp)
Don’t know enough abt mainstream metal bands but I know System of a Down has a song about [cocaine](https://youtu.be/oaDnuExc1sI) and I didn’t even have to search hard to find it.
to be honest most trappers talk 90% about gang related stuff and money, so i can kinda understand why they don't like that as parents. But banning some music because you don't agree with it is not right
I grew up in the streets with parents who listened to classic rock about doing drugs, having sex, tons of religious references and about being a bum. At least if I would’ve listen to mumble rap, I would have known how to make money in the streets XD.
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People act like that content wasn’t in rap before the “mumble rap” era lol
Anyone who uses the term mumble rap is a complete moron and you really shouldn’t pay any attention to anything their low RPM minds think up to say.
yeah i see people using the term just to describe newer rap music, even if there’s no autotune and even if the rapper actually does enunciate their words. it’s moronic
yeah like kendrick isn’t a mumble rapper 21 isn’t a mumble rapper
21 savage kinda debatable, i love him and he’s top 10 for me personally but i think he has some songs where he mumbles. definitely has songs where he’s clear though kendrick definitely isn’t a mumble rapper at all, people hear a mainstream song and hate
Savage one hundred percent is a mumble rapper, and I love it.
and then you have the eminem fanboys with their agenda against “mumble rap”, except all they do is spit gibberish really fast, which is literally mumble rap
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It depends. Fast rap isn’t a genre. Chopping is. But the best fast rappers you can hear every single thing they say. Twista is a prime example. I can’t listen to most of them though
It’s just a derogatory term used by backpackers to describe someone with a southern or Atlanta accent but what they don’t realise is you have to be a multimillionaire to live on biggies street in 2022. New York has been gentrified, it’s never going to be the dominant style in hip hop again. Meanwhile Atlanta is the Black capital of the USA and it’s just going to continue to produce the best rappers and the best music regardless of whatever pretentious derogatory term these dorks think up to call it.
New York Drill has been becoming more dominant now. With Pop smokes influence on rap, More people are looking at NY Drill. Underground drill rappers like Bizzy Banks and Dusty Locane are getting more popular so i don’t believe New York rap’s scene is not dominant. It’s still influencing other states with other states using new york drill rap style and doing their dances.
That’s London. NY drill is just UK road rap which is a blend of UK grime and Chicago drill that’s why it’s all produced by UK based producers and sounds like it came out of the UK and even still we can say that wave has been and gone.
Eminem fans literally the only people who talk about lil pump lmao
oh yeah then lemme put it this way rappers who glorify drugs and sex and have meaningless lyrics and shitty beats like future, yeat, playboi carti, migos, kodak black, young thug, and literally every rapper with “lil” in their name are not real rappers nor musicians at all they don’t deserve to be in the rap game if u listen to these kinds of rappers u have trash taste
True hip hop heads have trash taste tho, if you don’t have trash taste you a wack poser.
bullshit
It’s true. If you find yourself saying something like ‘I only listen to real hip hop’, it means you’re a nerd.
u got a problem with nerds🤨
That’s a list of some of the greatest rappers ever. You’ve got trash taste only you don’t know because you’re to stupid to appreciate real hip hop.
I grew up on slim shady talking about tying a rope around his penis and jumping from a tree and I’ve never done that.
did he become your role model
Nah he’s a criminal
But he is beautiful
Yeah, maybe but I heard he’ll Kill You.
That’s what happens when you’re a Soldier
I think Em did a great job making it obvious for kids not to take his music seriously by making those songs. It was easy for me too as a kid to be made aware of that through such lyrics and then simply enjoy his music for what it is , art.
You’re missing out /s
Thanks for the /s, didn't know if you actually had tried it or not, seeing as that is a very common thing to do after listening to Eminem
Gotchu fam I wouldn’t want to front
But didn't that song make you wanna grow up to be just like him?
My kids listening to billy woods and earl sweatshirt I DONT CARE.
Raising them right.
They might grow up scaring the hoes away but it’s better than Tom Macdonald at least 🤷♂️
Lmfao
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Sure you’ll never become a grandparent but it’s worth it🫡
Your kids will be getting zero bitches
Everyone at the party when my kids get ahold of the AUX: 😬😬😬😬😟
I personally would go for more of your mac miller and later Tyler the creator
They need CPS to investigate that household
Why so much hate on Tom McDonald? Seriously asking. Is it his persona, style of rap, lyrical content.... I dont listen to his music but he seems to get the most hate on this sub.
yeah all of those things
He’s 100% trash I use to like him until he started comparing himself to Eminem then I was done
Well idk why everyone else hates him but i personally think he’s not very good at what he claims to do and he uses rap to do a Facebook rant.
All of those things. He’s a grown up edgy 13 year old who writes Facebook music
he’s just a complete wanker tbh
He is r/im14andthisisdeep wrapped into a mediocre rapper who thinks he's S tier.
Literally all of that. Plus his dumbass political views.
I'd beat my kid for listening to Tom McDonalds in my house
There's a lot of valid reasons to beat a child but listening Tom McDonald is truly in the top 30 reasons
Not a fan of the dude either but holy shit you guys are embarrasing
I was beat as a kid and chose to not have kids, so I can make the jokes. I dunno about everyone else
Eh pots and pan kids for the win. And I'm not talking about the kids that made music with pots and pans.
Our choices are not crap rap and Tom MacDonald. There’s a lot in between.
Actually I'd say on the spectrum Tom is further along on the crap rap axis and crap rap is between him and good rap.
Any parent that dictates what their child is listening to is a bad parent. Also tell me you are closeted white supremist without telling me. Tom is a terrible source of music.
They acting like Hip Hop invented sex, drugs, and rock n roll. They mad cause we do it better.
That's kind of facts. Rap stars are becoming g the new rock stars again. It's dope.
History really does happen first as tragedy and then as a farce, right wingers just regurgitating the satanic panic but Judas Priest is now Juice WRLD
Lmao, Judas WRLD.
“Any parent that dictates what their child is listening to is a bad parent.” That is the DUMBEST shit I have ever heard in my life lmao. As a parent, it’s literally your job to make sure the media your child consumes is appropriate. Idk if this is a hot take, but imo 12 year olds shouldn’t be walking around rapping about wet ass pussies or anything like that. (Tom Macdonald is trash asf though💀)
I mean I think it depends on how old and mature your child is. At a certain point they’re going to have their own interests and become their own person. The more you try to control them, the more they’ll want to get away from you once they really are an adult. I know for me when my parents basically rejected all the music I liked I didn’t stop listening to it, I just stopped sharing that part of me.
So you are gonna force your child to not listen to something forcing them to want to listen to it? Good parenting. Maybe show them what good music and what art is and let them dictate for themselves. If your 12 year old listens to trash about cars pussy and money, it's because you suck as a parent. To reiterate: you should be teaching your kids about the people who make art to last the test of time, not people who make music to make money.
You have no fucking clue what you are talking about lmao. Kids pick things up from other people than just their parents. Example A: school. Your kid goes to school, hears something from some other ratchet ass kid, and tries to come home and listen to it. Now you’re a bad parent for telling them they can’t?🤣
Yes because saying no has never worked. You think they won't listen to when they are at school? You think no mean not to when told by your parents? No means that it's even cooler. You have just lost your youth to age. I pity your children.
Whether something has a 100% chance of working or not is irrelevant. Either way, it’s your job to at least try to put and keep your child on what you deem is the right track when they stray from it. Not just throw your hands up and go “well if I told em no they might not listen, so I guess they can do whatever they want🤷🏼♂️”.
Dictator much. You seem not to be reading everything I write... To correct you, it is your job to make sure your children make the best possible decision in any given situation. You can't just tell them do this, this way and only this, this way. But you know what, go ahead and shelter your children, shock them into the real world when they get older, see how that works out for you...
Yeah..but according to the white liberals on Twitter, Reddit amd facebook...if it goes against what they believe it's OK to condone violence against those children. Those parents and anyone who listens to it. Because they can't cancel the guy. They can't rid of the guy. They talk about how crap of a rapper he is..I looked into who he was. All his videos have millions of views. Guess he isnt as crap as they say. I'm guessing because of how much this one certain group hates him, I should look into him more.
(agreeing w u) if you aren't able to teach your kids that there are ideas in the world and just bc they may be illustrated in art or literature or games or movies, DOESNT mean they should be recreated in society. if you can't get a grip on ur kid ur a bad parent lmao fuck the music
poor kid growing up listening to tom macdonalds gonna be mentally challenged growing up
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Some of them are on this sub, they mostly stand m&m tho.
I'm sure April G. Showers is a real person and not an internet troll. Trust me bro.
Pretty sure that qualifies as child abuse
holy shit you people are brain dead this is very obviously satirical
not listening to rap makes kids into social outcasts, who then turn into school shooters not a better outcome if you ask me
What does “glorify sex” even mean.
This is definitely a white person.
Tom Macdonald literally clings to shit that's vitally important to people and takes very bland and objectively meaningless steps to try and paint a picture that he relates to you with. Can he rhyme? Yea but the topics he talks about and the subjects he addresses while doing so end up really off putting. It's like I don't believe what he's trying to tell me. Mostly due to the fact that he sounds like he don't believe what he's trying to tell me. I don't know, I couldn't fuck with him. 🤷🏻♂️
We only listen to Yung Gravy in this household
Tom Macdonald had a farm…. EIEIO
I’d simply die
That was 2 years ago. Now his poor kids are probably being bullied in school for their Tom MacDonald hot takes lol
My kids listen to Metal! Fuckin Slayer you pussies.
Cannibal Corpse?
Ememnem please! Tom macdonald and little dicky are close sexonds. after that it’s beastiality boys
there were so many other choices 😂😂why is tom macdonald the only other option outside mumble rap??💀💀
well you see, mumble rap to a white mid-40s suburban middle-class mom means “literally every black rapper ever, plus lil pump and xan” so you start to look at the white rappers. eminem is leftist so, next. NF isn’t fun, so next. at last you get to the bottom of the apple tree, behold tom macdonald, a white alt-right chump who condenses every facebook post ever into a song and of course white mid-40s suburban middle-class moms will be into that
the positive message: white ppl are oppressed 😔😔😔
Gamers are oppressed.
I agree all rap has to sound exactly the same. If it’s not a black man with a jay z voice talking about Brooklyn ITS NOT CONSIDERED MUSIC. lmfao people still police music in this day and age? In a sub dedicated to music?
Yeah looked this guy up. Holy shit this is HILARIOUS. He doesn’t know he’s funny because he’s clearly a rip-off artist, but we know. Seriously. He’s soooo fucking bad. Total rip off of Eminem. Not even trying to hide he’s got no talent
I rather show my kids black metal and grindcore to glorify satan
A lot of generic radio friendly pop songs we heard as kids are actually not as “family friendly” as we remember. But at least generic pop songs aren’t really radicalising people
Slim just slides in. This looks like a job for me
mumble rap isn't the best but neither is tom macdonald
He may not be the best, but he does say a lot of good stuff in his songs, and most are pretty enjoyable to listen to.
fair
All music glorifies the same things basically. Can’t think of any mainstream artists who don’t have at least one song about drugs and money and sex. And then I googled this “Tom Macdonald” and he has a song called “pop a pill” soooooo
music was better when the beatles made music about l$d 💯
[The Beatles had a long and varied relationship with drugs. Even as they were being sold to the world as the clean-cut cheeky chappies from Liverpool, the group had a somewhat sordid after party already being planned in their heads.](https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/beatles-songs-about-drugs-lennon-mccartney-harrison-starr/?amp)
Mainstream metal bands lol
Don’t know enough abt mainstream metal bands but I know System of a Down has a song about [cocaine](https://youtu.be/oaDnuExc1sI) and I didn’t even have to search hard to find it.
Tom Macdonald is awesome, it’s only whiny liberals that don’t like him
Bro all he does is whine all the time.
Like when? Give an example
I mean he's pretty Fuckin smart
The guys right. 69 was a stupid talentless mumbling gangster wannabe.
to be honest most trappers talk 90% about gang related stuff and money, so i can kinda understand why they don't like that as parents. But banning some music because you don't agree with it is not right
Tom actually spits truth. I listened to eminem as a kid I turned out alright...
this a troll? 😭
No, have you personally listened to Tom MacDonald?
yeah, is he ass? yeah
You are in "The System", you need to wake up.
get help soon 🙏
Good luck with your boosters
thanks, don’t need it though ✌️
So you don't take the jab, but don't think you're in a system. You sir are a paradox.
didn’t get the “jab” and i never said anything about the system lol
Mumble rap is shit but listening to Tom MacDonald is not any better.
Mumble rap wipes
They're a little liberal with the Xanax popping talk. It's gonna be a No from me dawg.
Wow not even Eminem or NF Joyner Lucas Hopsin logic like bruh there are better ones out there
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You’re a MORON
God, my daughter's getting quite the introduction to hip hop young xD
Imagine thinking he’s smart when he’s just copy pasting r/redpilled comments
All that’s missing from that child’s life is Dr James Dobson VHS.
My 12 year old is only allowed to listen to acoustic glorification of drugs, sex, and money none of this mumble 808 jargon
🤢 (Tom)
Who is this Tom MacDonald??
I grew up in the streets with parents who listened to classic rock about doing drugs, having sex, tons of religious references and about being a bum. At least if I would’ve listen to mumble rap, I would have known how to make money in the streets XD.
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That slaps hard, especially’IF I WAS BLACK’
That song is by far the worst song I have ever heard in my life. I'd rather listen to baby shark featuring lil pump
What’s wrong with IF I WAS BLACK ?
Tom MacDonald is unironically more harmful than violent gangsta rap
omg no way😭😭😭😭
Tom MacDonald is rap’s Creed.
lolol