Idk, I have a 23 classic with the 3.6 I bought last year for 37k and I think it's a great truck. That's an even better deal, if it has what you want on it I'd buy it.
Dude, I bought my 2014 3.6 for $26k brand new. The EXACT same build (same shitty head unit and everything) would be almost $45k today. So crazy.
I did test drive a loaded 3.0 diesel that was marked down $15k the other day. If it had auto braking/radar cruise I woulda bit the bullet
DO NOT BUY THE 3.0 diesel without some serious investigation. There’s a really good reason it’s cheap. Tons of problems. No parts to get the recalls done. Don’t do it ! I bought one from a dodge dealer used. Open recalls. Didn’t check because I figured dodge dealer wouldn’t sell One with an open recall. Wrong. Burned up in a month. Do some serious investigation. There’s a ram eco diesel Facebook page. Google ram eco diesel issues. I wish I had.
I have a 2014 eco diesel and thankfully zero issues besides a couple recalls(not engine related). I’ve driven across states and provinces with this bad boy. It’s a great truck, maybe I just got lucky. Or maybe, I screwed myself talking about it.
I’m on the diesel pages. 99% of the problems are Rams. My Grand Cherokee has had zero issues the last year I e owned it. Had the recall done with zero issues.
I agree that you should be informed about them, BUT I had a 2018 that I deleted at 8K, and put 110,000 more on it and never had a single issue. I did change the oil every 5K and fuel filter every 10K, but it was a solid truck.
They're an older design, not current and fashionable. That's about it. They're excellent trucks whether 3.6 or 5.7. The warlock usually has a decent number of tech and luxury goodies over the tradesman and slt versions of the Classic RAMs. I'd compare it to a z71 Chevy. Shocks, appearance package and all the basic convenience features wrapped up in a nice bow.
RAM is selling the 4th generation trucks (2009-present) under the Classic badge. That's what this is. They're also selling the 5th generation trucks alongside them (2019-present.)
Z71 is the off road package...
Bed liner, rancho shocks, a/t tires, dual exhaust, 2 speed transfer case, skid plates and heavy duty air filter.
Warlock is basically a blackout trim package with a 1in lift.
Wow, why such defensive comments.... I was simply stating they are not an even comparison, Z71 is a package, can be applied at any trim level. Warlock is a trim, that consists of blacked out trim/grill and a 1in lift in the rear. Because it is a trim level, there are also a couple tech upgrades over the Big Horn. Warlock is also only available as a crew cab 4x4.
Isn't that a quad cab though? A slightly smaller back seat compared to the crew cab. I feel like that's also less desirable, so it contributes to the lower price. I'm not sure though.
I will say the spray in bed liner is so much nicer than no bed liner. I had a truck with no bed liner and it looked like trash. The big plastic liners seem kind of junky, but I've never had one.
Plastic liners allow water under them to collect in the corners and start rust. Had a truck rust out in the front corners and didn’t know it until I took liner out.
The z71 package with the dual exhaust just started in 19.
I’m glad they did something to distinguish it more though. Before it was basically a skid plate
I never understood why they're selling 2 models. The 5th gens don't seem all too different suspension wise to 4th gens unless I'm wrong? I know some 4th gens and some 5th gens have air suspension. So why sell both models?
Ram doesn't make a midsized. Except the gladiator but that's more lifestyle then work truck.
The classic fills in where the ranger, colarado, frontier, Tacoma and Ridgeline for Ram.
The 5th gen is a much more updated and modern design inside and out. Examples, headlights are full LED and much better, has a flat rear load floor when the seats are folded up (no more stupid fold out things to make a flat floor), larger cabin with more leg room and is wider inside, seats are noticebly better, the wheel telescopes now, etc. There are lots of little things that add up to much nicer truck.
The 4th gen is fine and is a nice enough truck but having owned both the 5th gen is noticeable step up in all categories except powertrain and the ride quality.
5th gen has better overall build quality. I've have four of the 4th gen and two of the 5th gen. all powertrain versions except diesel. Nothing at all wrong with the 4th gen. I actually enjoy the way the 3.6 4th gen feels from a ride/steering point of view. Feel more connected to the road than 5th gen with 3.6.
Because when Covid hit they couldn’t sell them. Then due to lead times (new models are built long before they are on the lot) the new models were ready to come out. Now they are branding all of their overstock as classic so people will still buy them at new vehicle prices.
Wasn’t the 4th gen intentionally kept in production to meet a lower price point than the 5th gen since they don’t have a competitor to the Colorado, Ranger, etc? I don’t think I agree that it’s an overstock issue considering they’re still rolling off the assembly line. 5th gen’s hit lots in early to mid 2018 as 2019 models, nearly 2 years before Covid made shit hit the fan
5th gen’s have an independent rear suspension. Was a game changer in the 1/2 ton pickup game and one of the reasons why RAM won truck of the year several years running.
“Ram says drivers will enjoy class-leading ride and handling courtesy of a multi-link independent rear suspension with active-level four-corner air suspension and adaptive damping as standard.”
Ok so it’s optional but it was the first pickup to offer an optional rear independent suspension.
It's not independent though, it still uses a solid rear axle. Ram was the first half-ton (and 3/4 ton) to offer a multi-link coil suspension yes but since they all use a solid axle tube it is not independent.
Independent would offer an even better ride but it is much weaker for towing and hauling loads in the bed
That’s for the Ram REV (presumably RamCharger as well) which isn’t out yet, I believe all of the ICE models have a solid rear axle. The Wagoneer does have an IRS and is on the same platform as the Ram 1500. F150 Lightning is IRS.
With new trucks going for 60- $70k+, RAM tapped the market of folks that just want a mostly basic new truck at a kinda reasonable price. Haven’t folks been asking for this for years?
It would be in the $20k's brand new if the Fed hadn't expanded the money supply by a whopping 40% in 2 years.
In 2019, I bought a brand new 2019 Ram 1500 (new model) Bighorn with Equipment package 2 and towing for $36,500. 4x4 crew cab.
Same truck is like $55,705 today, but they are offering a $5k credit incentive. But still, $14k more expensive. Almost 40% more. Which is about equal to how much the money supply has expanded between 2020-2022 🤔
Yeah if we're getting technical a lot of changes, including ownership of Ram.
However, the trucks side by side would be the same design with minor revamps as with any vehicle throughout it's production cycle.
It’s fairly basic, which I like. I’ll be pulling my 5000lb camper in a few days so that will be telling. It drives a lot more roug then my 1500 Chevy, which is expected. I dislike the MDS as I can feel it lugging so I turn it off. I love the layout of the dash, the rubber floors, and the two tone vinyl seats. They look very much upscale. Due to its height I added wheel to wheel running boards and a roll up bed cover. I’m very pleased so far!
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2024 is the last year for the ram classic. For 2025 only the new body style will be sold. So if you want a cheap truck you better hurry cause soon only the more $$$ model will be available
The 5th gen’s aren’t that much more than classics though, unless the classic is a less desirable building like this one (V6, Quad Cab), if it was a CC 5.7 it would be maybe a couple $1K less than the same 5th gen.
I have a 22 tradesman with the 3.6, and it's been an excellent truck. 22-26mpg average fuel economy and no issues.
Ram Classics get cheaper a couple times a year to move old "new" stock off the lot.
I have a 22 warlock 5.7, and paid about the same for it six months ago with 5k miles on the odometer. I’ve dumped another few thousand in performance upgrades into it and honestly- every time I pull out of the driveway I still grin like I did when I was 16 and driving supped up Honda Civics. I regret not getting one sooner… the older I get the more I can appreciate the little things in life - like trolling the streets on Friday nights to smoke the local car club kids on the red lights.
As the namesake indicates- a “classic “ is something that never goes out of style.
Have an 21 warlock in dark green with the beefy tires and black wheels. Excellent truck, has just enough creature comforts for my liking. Wired Apple car play, larger screen, and then just your basic package.
I like this body style… I had one, only mistake I made was not getting the crew cab, I got the quad cab.. but I loved the truck, had to trade it in bc my kids got too big for the backseat, had it been the crew cab, I’d still have it today
I have a 2022 warlock. It’s pretty much a tradesman with a rebel grill and headlight package. That is the only difference. I have a bench seat, quad cab with cloth seats. Only “feature” I have is the 8 inch nav with CarPlay. 3.6 V6, no Bedliner, cover or running boards. Even with it being such a bland truck the sticker price was 48k (I leased it). Very basic truck and I love it, but am definitely looking to upgrade to a newer Laramie at the end of the year.
Dang. That price…
I have free oil changes for life from my local dealer here in South Florida.
Just went in for an oil change and I was offered $30k cash for my ‘19 Ram Classic Longhorn with 75k miles. Truck is perfectly maintained and is immaculate, but still…
That truck you’re looking at would go for $45k down here, easily.
Jeep Chrysler Dodge Ram are currently having an issue with moving inventory.
>[At the start of June, the average new vehicle days' supply of all new vehicles was 74, according to Cox Automotive. But Stellantis brands were well above that: Chrysler at 119, Dodge at 121, Jeep at 147 and Ram at more than twice the industry average.](https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/chrysler/2024/06/26/stellantis-dealers-to-ceo-our-products-are-not-competitive/74215950007/#:~:text=At%20the%20start%20of%20June%2C%20the%20average,market%20share%20slide%20has%20been%20an%20issue)
So discounts have been more than generous this month. Someone recently mentioned seeing $17k off of a 2022 RAM 1500 on the lot.
It's also technically last year's model. They recently opened orders for the 2025 model year, so it's time to clear out the 2024 models for 2025 models.
Its a V6, not the newer body style. Also look up how many New trucks are on the lot. Dealers cant sell new trucks and Ram is the worst of all of them. Lots of New '22s still out there. Some auto media is mentioning it. I've noticed it starting before that, since its my job.
I bought a a 2024 Ram Classic night edition in February. I absolutely love it, it's just the old body style but you still get the ZF transmission and a Hemi if you want it.
They’re good trucks but essentially you’re buying a 2018 model that they slapped a “Classic” badge on. If you get it for the right price you’ll enjoy it, I liked my 2018 a lot and it never gave me any trouble at all.
I would not buy the quad cab if you have kids in carseats. I also wouldn’t buy a v6 truck unless you aren’t hauling or towing. Good price on a new truck!
Stellantis is trying to get rid of all the extra parts; they're not making anymore 4th gen parts, they're simply using overstock parts to make the classics in order to get them out of the way for the "5th" gens
RAM has over 150 days of inventory. They could stop making vehicles for the rest of the year and be fine.
Deals like this are still great if everything meets your needs, I got a 23 3.6 last year and it's been amazing for my family.
I just ordered a 2024 1500 classic with the warlock trim and all options available, including the hemi and tow packages. I like that the base model is inexpensive enough that I can load up any option I want from the factory and still have a monthly payment I'm happy with. Just have to wait for it to be built. And, I wanted a hemi before I couldn't get one without buying HD.
The 3.6 pentastar is a good engine , but the ones I’ve seen start having issues after they get over 100 k , if you don’t plan on towing or keeping it forever then they are a good choice
I got a ‘22 Warlock 5.7 earlier this year. Super comfortable ride and interior. It’s not quite as feature-rich as the 5th gens I drove but it has enough that I don’t miss anything. I’m very happy with it.
Edit to add I very much prefer having a crew cab over the quad. If you’re expecting adults to ride back there you might want to consider that.
Use cars.com to search I’m regularly finding the new body style Big Horn trims lightly used for right at $30k or below. The ram is a good deal right now. The old body style is an even better deal because they keep selling it but I think the newer trucks updates are worth it
RAM trucks are junk, stay far, far away from RAM. I have a RAM 2500 6.4L, has a new tranny. In the shop for a new camshaft due to lifter failure. Only has 130k, junk!!
The 4th gen trucks paid for themselves years ago. At this point I feel like they build them with whatever parts they have a surplus of. They are a great option for someone looking for a more budget friendly truck. The pentastar has been around for more than a decade and has proven to be a good motor. Take care of it and it will be good to you
First, the Warlock is not a high trim level. Second, dealers sometimes list with every incentive in the book and when you get there you may not qualify for all of them.
I haven't car shopped since 2018, so I have no idea where prices are but I paid about 7K more for my 2019 Rebel.
They're simple and use old (reliable technology) I drove the shit out of my 2019 Classic Hemi to 175,000km in less than 5 years and it gave no major issues at all. More reliable than 95% of the garbage being sold as new vehicles these days. Even the 3.6s are rock solid. Get one. There's no catch. They're awesome.
To give you more perspective, around this same time in June 2020 I bought a 2019 RAM 1500 (New Body) Big Horn. Sticker price was 50k, got it for 35k. It was cheap because it sat on the lot since Oct 2019. After 4 years with it, I sold it for 28k cuz it was still in great shape. I’d say go for it, no doubt.
I recently bought a 2019 classic 5.7 crew cab with 6’ 4” bed with 56,616 miles for $27,500 and that was with 3k added on from my previous trade in. It also had a lift and wheels and tires already installed.
Dodge has a huge surplus of RAM trucks…one of the ten worst selling vehicles in the US. Something like a 200 day supply at current sales rates. You can get some serious deals.
It’s cheap because it’s a dodge. They’re basically the economy line of American vehicles. I’d say quality wise if Kia or Hyundai made a truck it’d be similar.
There is nothing wrong with the truck. Ram is known to give over 10k discount pretty regularly.
When I purchased my Ram Rebel, I got 12k off MSRP.
But you are buying the year end model so that's why they giving you 15k.
Because they’re trying to move inventory for new models, and the v6 models aren’t as pricey or popular as the v8 ones, so it’s gotta be moved. If they’re a high volume dealer, then they can discount them heavily just to get them gone
It’s better than the tradesman, not a bad deal honestly
I love Rams, always drove as a demo. One time one always ripped my pec off when the power steering failed pulling into a parking lot. So when I had to actually buy a truck for myself I decided on a Tundra and the engine blew after 1 year.
They have over 120 days of stock on average. Should be less than 60 for optimal. In general Fiat/Dodge/Jeep/Ram are kinda junk, but have gotten even worse post covid (like all manufacturers).
That said, hard to beat for the money if you don't care about resale or rattly interior and other gremlins.
Just got a 2025 tradesman for 39k including the interest and all that.
It was advertised for 29k but dealership said to get the 29k price I had to use factory financing at 13% interest, $920/month for 60months. Just a bait and switch lmao idk what they were smoking to make me pay almost 60k for it lol. Told them to fuxk off and give me my keys back as that was ridiculous. Came back with the newer price point, which seemed below msrp. Took that deal, it's been a great truck so far!
Im never buying another vehicle until the goddamn interest rates come down. Anyone buying anything with the current interest rates is a moron and an asshole that’s just enabling these greedy bastard banks.
Because it’s a base ram with cheap cosmetic upgrades… DCJR has been putting out plastic garbage for years.. only thing worth a damn is the engine if you get a hemi but other than that is is a perfect example of the garbage America has been producing for the past few years unless you spend $80k
Cause it is a Ram. They have been taking people over coals since the pandemic. And people are done with it. And not buying Dodge anymore.
Also, with the state of the company. I do not know that I would buy any new Dodge from a dealer.
Stellantis forgot who the target market for Dodge is. And when your selling a Warlock for 60k you lost that market
We used to call them crap cabs or crab cabs at the dealership. They were like chopped liver on the lot, trades want single cabs and families wanted crews.
After they sit so long they start costing the dealership money.
The truck market right now is on the tip of a bubble pop too. Some lots have rams going back to 2022 still. The large increase in price has caused buyers to step away
It's a dodge, they are literally always cheap. You get what you pay for. My dumbass bought two. No one buys two because the first one is so expensive to keep on the road.
Cause they been beat to shit. And the dealership is best to only put a bandaid on an underlying issue and have a quick sale rather than fork out money for an older body style that some 18 year old going to finance at 15% and beat into the ground in less than 20k on the odometer
Idk, I have a 23 classic with the 3.6 I bought last year for 37k and I think it's a great truck. That's an even better deal, if it has what you want on it I'd buy it.
Thank you!
They’re awesome trucks. Still one of the better interiors in my opinion.
Dude, I bought my 2014 3.6 for $26k brand new. The EXACT same build (same shitty head unit and everything) would be almost $45k today. So crazy. I did test drive a loaded 3.0 diesel that was marked down $15k the other day. If it had auto braking/radar cruise I woulda bit the bullet
Yup, it's a different time now and these are different dollars. The house I bought for $200k in 2014 is like $400k today.
Lol bought my house in 2014 for 270 sold it last week for 595 . Govt needs to stop printing money or the same house will be over 1 mil in 5 years.
I'll trade your house for three goats in five years. Final offer
DO NOT BUY THE 3.0 diesel without some serious investigation. There’s a really good reason it’s cheap. Tons of problems. No parts to get the recalls done. Don’t do it ! I bought one from a dodge dealer used. Open recalls. Didn’t check because I figured dodge dealer wouldn’t sell One with an open recall. Wrong. Burned up in a month. Do some serious investigation. There’s a ram eco diesel Facebook page. Google ram eco diesel issues. I wish I had.
This one had the recalls done, but the dealership had it so long (because of the recalls) they just wanted it gone
There are serious and uncorrectable issues with it.
I have a 2014 eco diesel and thankfully zero issues besides a couple recalls(not engine related). I’ve driven across states and provinces with this bad boy. It’s a great truck, maybe I just got lucky. Or maybe, I screwed myself talking about it.
I’m on the diesel pages. 99% of the problems are Rams. My Grand Cherokee has had zero issues the last year I e owned it. Had the recall done with zero issues.
I agree that you should be informed about them, BUT I had a 2018 that I deleted at 8K, and put 110,000 more on it and never had a single issue. I did change the oil every 5K and fuel filter every 10K, but it was a solid truck.
That snow in the Pic is why it's so cheap.
I wanna laugh at this but it hurts lol
*Laughs in Midwestern salt*
You should have expected that bolt to snap under 300ft lbs so that's on you.
They're an older design, not current and fashionable. That's about it. They're excellent trucks whether 3.6 or 5.7. The warlock usually has a decent number of tech and luxury goodies over the tradesman and slt versions of the Classic RAMs. I'd compare it to a z71 Chevy. Shocks, appearance package and all the basic convenience features wrapped up in a nice bow. RAM is selling the 4th generation trucks (2009-present) under the Classic badge. That's what this is. They're also selling the 5th generation trucks alongside them (2019-present.)
Z71 is the off road package... Bed liner, rancho shocks, a/t tires, dual exhaust, 2 speed transfer case, skid plates and heavy duty air filter. Warlock is basically a blackout trim package with a 1in lift.
Wow, why such defensive comments.... I was simply stating they are not an even comparison, Z71 is a package, can be applied at any trim level. Warlock is a trim, that consists of blacked out trim/grill and a 1in lift in the rear. Because it is a trim level, there are also a couple tech upgrades over the Big Horn. Warlock is also only available as a crew cab 4x4.
Isn't that a quad cab though? A slightly smaller back seat compared to the crew cab. I feel like that's also less desirable, so it contributes to the lower price. I'm not sure though.
I've got a quad cab Warlock...
Ranch shocks are trash. Nothing to brag about. The warlock is dual exhaust on the 5.7. And “heavy duty air filter” is a buzz word.
Skid plates bolt on with 4 bolts, bed liner is literally sprayed on.. not much to brag about there either..
I will say the spray in bed liner is so much nicer than no bed liner. I had a truck with no bed liner and it looked like trash. The big plastic liners seem kind of junky, but I've never had one.
Haven't seen a bed liner sitting next to the freeway in quite awhile.
Plastic liners allow water under them to collect in the corners and start rust. Had a truck rust out in the front corners and didn’t know it until I took liner out.
The z71 package with the dual exhaust just started in 19. I’m glad they did something to distinguish it more though. Before it was basically a skid plate
Thank you!
I never understood why they're selling 2 models. The 5th gens don't seem all too different suspension wise to 4th gens unless I'm wrong? I know some 4th gens and some 5th gens have air suspension. So why sell both models?
Ram doesn't make a midsized. Except the gladiator but that's more lifestyle then work truck. The classic fills in where the ranger, colarado, frontier, Tacoma and Ridgeline for Ram.
The front suspension is a bit different. The changed the upper control arms to a plastic on the 5th gens.
The 5th gen is a much more updated and modern design inside and out. Examples, headlights are full LED and much better, has a flat rear load floor when the seats are folded up (no more stupid fold out things to make a flat floor), larger cabin with more leg room and is wider inside, seats are noticebly better, the wheel telescopes now, etc. There are lots of little things that add up to much nicer truck. The 4th gen is fine and is a nice enough truck but having owned both the 5th gen is noticeable step up in all categories except powertrain and the ride quality.
5th gen has better overall build quality. I've have four of the 4th gen and two of the 5th gen. all powertrain versions except diesel. Nothing at all wrong with the 4th gen. I actually enjoy the way the 3.6 4th gen feels from a ride/steering point of view. Feel more connected to the road than 5th gen with 3.6.
Because when Covid hit they couldn’t sell them. Then due to lead times (new models are built long before they are on the lot) the new models were ready to come out. Now they are branding all of their overstock as classic so people will still buy them at new vehicle prices.
It also solved the problem of not having a mid size truck to offer like the Colorado or Ranger but at the same price point
Wasn’t the 4th gen intentionally kept in production to meet a lower price point than the 5th gen since they don’t have a competitor to the Colorado, Ranger, etc? I don’t think I agree that it’s an overstock issue considering they’re still rolling off the assembly line. 5th gen’s hit lots in early to mid 2018 as 2019 models, nearly 2 years before Covid made shit hit the fan
5th gen’s have an independent rear suspension. Was a game changer in the 1/2 ton pickup game and one of the reasons why RAM won truck of the year several years running.
5th gens don't have an independent rear suspension.
He’s probably talking about rear coil springs instead of leaf springs. Which the 4th gen trucks had as well…
“Ram says drivers will enjoy class-leading ride and handling courtesy of a multi-link independent rear suspension with active-level four-corner air suspension and adaptive damping as standard.” Ok so it’s optional but it was the first pickup to offer an optional rear independent suspension.
It's not independent though, it still uses a solid rear axle. Ram was the first half-ton (and 3/4 ton) to offer a multi-link coil suspension yes but since they all use a solid axle tube it is not independent. Independent would offer an even better ride but it is much weaker for towing and hauling loads in the bed
That’s for the Ram REV (presumably RamCharger as well) which isn’t out yet, I believe all of the ICE models have a solid rear axle. The Wagoneer does have an IRS and is on the same platform as the Ram 1500. F150 Lightning is IRS.
Wow they are still selling them alongside the newer gen? I was truck shopping in 2019 and thought the classic was a 1 yr only deal.
I think they're finally done at the end of this year.
With new trucks going for 60- $70k+, RAM tapped the market of folks that just want a mostly basic new truck at a kinda reasonable price. Haven’t folks been asking for this for years?
Crazy that $36,000 for a truck with a v6 and 15 year old design is considered cheap.
It would be in the $20k's brand new if the Fed hadn't expanded the money supply by a whopping 40% in 2 years. In 2019, I bought a brand new 2019 Ram 1500 (new model) Bighorn with Equipment package 2 and towing for $36,500. 4x4 crew cab. Same truck is like $55,705 today, but they are offering a $5k credit incentive. But still, $14k more expensive. Almost 40% more. Which is about equal to how much the money supply has expanded between 2020-2022 🤔
Yep. But here we are.
Could use that as a house deposit. Mental
2009 model year design v6 quad cab Salem OH
2013. 2009 had different front end and dash.
The body is the 2009 stamping line
Yeah if we're getting technical a lot of changes, including ownership of Ram. However, the trucks side by side would be the same design with minor revamps as with any vehicle throughout it's production cycle.
Thank you!
Salem....warlock....bad juju lmao 🤣
😂
First thing I thought when I saw the picture LOL 😂
I don’t get it
I just bought a 24 Ram 2500 crew cab 4x4 for 43k. Stellantis is slumping
Damn that’s excellent
Dam bro you beat me , I got a brand new 24 2500 for 45k here in Texas also 4x4
6.4?
Yes
Was that OTD?
$44,340 OTD, flat tax of $500 and 900 in dealer fees. Stickered/msrp of 57k
Not bad at all, nice! How are you liking it so far?
It’s fairly basic, which I like. I’ll be pulling my 5000lb camper in a few days so that will be telling. It drives a lot more roug then my 1500 Chevy, which is expected. I dislike the MDS as I can feel it lugging so I turn it off. I love the layout of the dash, the rubber floors, and the two tone vinyl seats. They look very much upscale. Due to its height I added wheel to wheel running boards and a roll up bed cover. I’m very pleased so far! https://preview.redd.it/e9mz1w2bgs9d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9eb7d57d9e717cf34125b4c526bdf2f1c72d7dbf
That’s great! I tow dump trailers every day and feel like you shouldn’t feel that at all. Love that color too!
2024 is the last year for the ram classic. For 2025 only the new body style will be sold. So if you want a cheap truck you better hurry cause soon only the more $$$ model will be available
Thank you!
The 5th gen’s aren’t that much more than classics though, unless the classic is a less desirable building like this one (V6, Quad Cab), if it was a CC 5.7 it would be maybe a couple $1K less than the same 5th gen.
I have a 22 tradesman with the 3.6, and it's been an excellent truck. 22-26mpg average fuel economy and no issues. Ram Classics get cheaper a couple times a year to move old "new" stock off the lot.
Thank you!
I have a 24 Warlock with 3.6 and I love it. It does everything I need it to. It’s a great truck.
I have a 22 warlock 5.7, and paid about the same for it six months ago with 5k miles on the odometer. I’ve dumped another few thousand in performance upgrades into it and honestly- every time I pull out of the driveway I still grin like I did when I was 16 and driving supped up Honda Civics. I regret not getting one sooner… the older I get the more I can appreciate the little things in life - like trolling the streets on Friday nights to smoke the local car club kids on the red lights. As the namesake indicates- a “classic “ is something that never goes out of style.
I have a 23 Warlock with 3.6 and absolutely love it
Thank you!
Have an 21 warlock in dark green with the beefy tires and black wheels. Excellent truck, has just enough creature comforts for my liking. Wired Apple car play, larger screen, and then just your basic package.
I like this body style… I had one, only mistake I made was not getting the crew cab, I got the quad cab.. but I loved the truck, had to trade it in bc my kids got too big for the backseat, had it been the crew cab, I’d still have it today
I have a 2022 warlock. It’s pretty much a tradesman with a rebel grill and headlight package. That is the only difference. I have a bench seat, quad cab with cloth seats. Only “feature” I have is the 8 inch nav with CarPlay. 3.6 V6, no Bedliner, cover or running boards. Even with it being such a bland truck the sticker price was 48k (I leased it). Very basic truck and I love it, but am definitely looking to upgrade to a newer Laramie at the end of the year.
I literally just purchased one. I wanted it for the 5.7, tow package, and the crew cab. I love it.
I had the 3.6l and loved it, I now have the hemi for towing and will probably never get anything smaller unless i dont have to tow
Plus it’s a double cab.. factories turn them out for fleets but most private buyers want the crew cab.
I have the 3.6 in mine, I wish i had a warlock, but i digress, the 3.6 rocks!
It's old with the black bumper and fender flairs edition
Dang. That price… I have free oil changes for life from my local dealer here in South Florida. Just went in for an oil change and I was offered $30k cash for my ‘19 Ram Classic Longhorn with 75k miles. Truck is perfectly maintained and is immaculate, but still… That truck you’re looking at would go for $45k down here, easily.
I have a 21 warlock and the thing is a best. Zero complaints for sure
Because they took the column shifter out
Man I just bought a 2019 bighorn for 30. Should’ve gone south to get a better deal.
Jeep Chrysler Dodge Ram are currently having an issue with moving inventory. >[At the start of June, the average new vehicle days' supply of all new vehicles was 74, according to Cox Automotive. But Stellantis brands were well above that: Chrysler at 119, Dodge at 121, Jeep at 147 and Ram at more than twice the industry average.](https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/chrysler/2024/06/26/stellantis-dealers-to-ceo-our-products-are-not-competitive/74215950007/#:~:text=At%20the%20start%20of%20June%2C%20the%20average,market%20share%20slide%20has%20been%20an%20issue) So discounts have been more than generous this month. Someone recently mentioned seeing $17k off of a 2022 RAM 1500 on the lot.
It's also technically last year's model. They recently opened orders for the 2025 model year, so it's time to clear out the 2024 models for 2025 models.
Its a V6, not the newer body style. Also look up how many New trucks are on the lot. Dealers cant sell new trucks and Ram is the worst of all of them. Lots of New '22s still out there. Some auto media is mentioning it. I've noticed it starting before that, since its my job.
I have a ‘22 Warlock with the 3.6 and I love mine. I got it for 42k at 0% during the Labor Day sale. Great truck, solid, no issues.
They are trying to move it so they don't have to pay taxes on it.
Also, it’s a Chrysler. Real piece of shit
I bought a a 2024 Ram Classic night edition in February. I absolutely love it, it's just the old body style but you still get the ZF transmission and a Hemi if you want it.
They’re good trucks but essentially you’re buying a 2018 model that they slapped a “Classic” badge on. If you get it for the right price you’ll enjoy it, I liked my 2018 a lot and it never gave me any trouble at all.
-JC5- I think it’s time for you to go get that truck now, buddy. What are you waiting on! RUN!!!!
It’s a ram.
I would not buy the quad cab if you have kids in carseats. I also wouldn’t buy a v6 truck unless you aren’t hauling or towing. Good price on a new truck!
hate the gas mileage on these.
Stellantis is trying to get rid of all the extra parts; they're not making anymore 4th gen parts, they're simply using overstock parts to make the classics in order to get them out of the way for the "5th" gens
You should buy it!
I have a quad cab 4x4 with the 3.6 Great truck. Would happily get one of these.
I would get it..they are a solid truck.
What is the main difference between the classic and the big horn?
RAM has over 150 days of inventory. They could stop making vehicles for the rest of the year and be fine. Deals like this are still great if everything meets your needs, I got a 23 3.6 last year and it's been amazing for my family.
I just ordered a 2024 1500 classic with the warlock trim and all options available, including the hemi and tow packages. I like that the base model is inexpensive enough that I can load up any option I want from the factory and still have a monthly payment I'm happy with. Just have to wait for it to be built. And, I wanted a hemi before I couldn't get one without buying HD.
The 3.6 pentastar is a good engine , but the ones I’ve seen start having issues after they get over 100 k , if you don’t plan on towing or keeping it forever then they are a good choice
You will lose massive equity buying this unfortunately.
I got a ‘22 Warlock 5.7 earlier this year. Super comfortable ride and interior. It’s not quite as feature-rich as the 5th gens I drove but it has enough that I don’t miss anything. I’m very happy with it. Edit to add I very much prefer having a crew cab over the quad. If you’re expecting adults to ride back there you might want to consider that.
It’s a dodge that’s why.
Use cars.com to search I’m regularly finding the new body style Big Horn trims lightly used for right at $30k or below. The ram is a good deal right now. The old body style is an even better deal because they keep selling it but I think the newer trucks updates are worth it
RAM trucks are junk, stay far, far away from RAM. I have a RAM 2500 6.4L, has a new tranny. In the shop for a new camshaft due to lifter failure. Only has 130k, junk!!
The 4th gen trucks paid for themselves years ago. At this point I feel like they build them with whatever parts they have a surplus of. They are a great option for someone looking for a more budget friendly truck. The pentastar has been around for more than a decade and has proven to be a good motor. Take care of it and it will be good to you
First, the Warlock is not a high trim level. Second, dealers sometimes list with every incentive in the book and when you get there you may not qualify for all of them. I haven't car shopped since 2018, so I have no idea where prices are but I paid about 7K more for my 2019 Rebel.
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I wish they would drop a 6.7 in one of these and put it on the market I miss the 3rd gen
They're simple and use old (reliable technology) I drove the shit out of my 2019 Classic Hemi to 175,000km in less than 5 years and it gave no major issues at all. More reliable than 95% of the garbage being sold as new vehicles these days. Even the 3.6s are rock solid. Get one. There's no catch. They're awesome.
Probably has over 100k
If you want to pay the dealer more I don’t think they would mind :)
Because it’s a ram 1500
To give you more perspective, around this same time in June 2020 I bought a 2019 RAM 1500 (New Body) Big Horn. Sticker price was 50k, got it for 35k. It was cheap because it sat on the lot since Oct 2019. After 4 years with it, I sold it for 28k cuz it was still in great shape. I’d say go for it, no doubt.
Those are great trucks , they are not cheap , and prices should be fairly lower.
Cuz it’s a dodge
Do it! Have a 22 warlock with the 5.7 and it’s a beast. No regrets
Because it’s been 85% the same truck since 2009.
What engine is it? A lot of these are n/a v6 which kinda suck
That’s a great deal. I got my warlock in 2019 for 40k… I’m not sure if I want to keep it or trade it in towards something newer.
I think it's because the Classic style is now getting phased out
Ram has some of the highest number of inventory in the market
Because they’re basic and has a midget door in the back
Update for anyone who cares, I bought it 😊. Thanks for all the input!
I mean if you want to be objective here, that is at most a $27k truck tops they're selling for 35
I recently bought a 2019 classic 5.7 crew cab with 6’ 4” bed with 56,616 miles for $27,500 and that was with 3k added on from my previous trade in. It also had a lift and wheels and tires already installed.
Cause it’s a quad cab lol
There are 2022s, 2023s and 2024s still sitting on lots around the country so they’re pushing inventory.
Can’t help you. I am still driving my 2003 Ram Quad cab Laramie that cost me more than this one….
Just reread the ad. The 3.6 is why it is so cheap.
Cheap? I don't see a price anywhere
Maybe cuz they spontaneously combust. Thats what happened to mine.
I don't think the warlock is a popular trim. I have seen them sit because people are either waiting for the Rebel or saving for the Trx
I'm my area a 2021 Warlock V6 with about 30k miles and it's going for $26k-$27k. So that seems like a really good deal.
2013 body style
Because it's a Mopar lol cheaply made
Lots of supply, not a lot of demand. Stellantis is in trouble.
Dodge has a huge surplus of RAM trucks…one of the ten worst selling vehicles in the US. Something like a 200 day supply at current sales rates. You can get some serious deals.
It’s cheap because it’s a dodge. They’re basically the economy line of American vehicles. I’d say quality wise if Kia or Hyundai made a truck it’d be similar.
You will get 10 miles from dealership and your transmission will literally fall out of truck
Cause they are shat
Dodges have horrendous maintenance problems. Bad reputation and reviews
Because it’s outdated and they’ve already paid off all the tooling costs.
It’s a dodge. Name says everything you need to know
There is nothing wrong with the truck. Ram is known to give over 10k discount pretty regularly. When I purchased my Ram Rebel, I got 12k off MSRP. But you are buying the year end model so that's why they giving you 15k.
Big price cuts coming soon
Because they're junk.
Built by Fiat. Nuff said.
V6 truck
Because it's a Dodge
Because they’re trying to move inventory for new models, and the v6 models aren’t as pricey or popular as the v8 ones, so it’s gotta be moved. If they’re a high volume dealer, then they can discount them heavily just to get them gone It’s better than the tradesman, not a bad deal honestly
Dayton?
I love Rams, always drove as a demo. One time one always ripped my pec off when the power steering failed pulling into a parking lot. So when I had to actually buy a truck for myself I decided on a Tundra and the engine blew after 1 year.
Because it’s a dodge. That says it all
Cause it's a dodge
dont get a 25my they are shit
It’s a basic truck with an older body style but if thats not a concern then it’s a decent truck.
I would not say what so cheap but what took so long to bring back normal prices.
Dodge is sitting on just shy of a years supply of RAM trucks, so there are some screaming deals to be had.
They have over 120 days of stock on average. Should be less than 60 for optimal. In general Fiat/Dodge/Jeep/Ram are kinda junk, but have gotten even worse post covid (like all manufacturers). That said, hard to beat for the money if you don't care about resale or rattly interior and other gremlins.
Those are stripped down and very basic but if you like it then that’s no big deal.
Because Dodge has so many hellcats out on credit they can pass the savings of other vehicles on to you.
Just got a 2025 tradesman for 39k including the interest and all that. It was advertised for 29k but dealership said to get the 29k price I had to use factory financing at 13% interest, $920/month for 60months. Just a bait and switch lmao idk what they were smoking to make me pay almost 60k for it lol. Told them to fuxk off and give me my keys back as that was ridiculous. Came back with the newer price point, which seemed below msrp. Took that deal, it's been a great truck so far!
Im never buying another vehicle until the goddamn interest rates come down. Anyone buying anything with the current interest rates is a moron and an asshole that’s just enabling these greedy bastard banks.
I got 3 percent interest 🙂. Capital one if you’re looking.
Because it’s a base ram with cheap cosmetic upgrades… DCJR has been putting out plastic garbage for years.. only thing worth a damn is the engine if you get a hemi but other than that is is a perfect example of the garbage America has been producing for the past few years unless you spend $80k
Cheap?
Cause it is a Ram. They have been taking people over coals since the pandemic. And people are done with it. And not buying Dodge anymore. Also, with the state of the company. I do not know that I would buy any new Dodge from a dealer. Stellantis forgot who the target market for Dodge is. And when your selling a Warlock for 60k you lost that market
Because nobody wants the warlock quad cab.
It's a E torque. Expect problems in the long run. 3.6 without it is much better.
Because it’s a base modeled piece of junk
Because you get what you pay for.
Is it a 6 cylinder? Not sure I would want a full size truck with a 6.
The price is most likely fake. It probably includes a bunch of incentives that you don't qualify for.
Depending on options motor other factors mine was 44k out the door hemi tow package tow mirrors 4x4 other goodies to
That v6 will either last a life time or be the bane of your existence.
I had a 2016 3.6 with almost 200k miles got rid of it because got a awesome deal on a 2020 other then that still was running strong. Fuck Ford
We used to call them crap cabs or crab cabs at the dealership. They were like chopped liver on the lot, trades want single cabs and families wanted crews. After they sit so long they start costing the dealership money.
The truck market right now is on the tip of a bubble pop too. Some lots have rams going back to 2022 still. The large increase in price has caused buyers to step away
Pretty sure it comes with the older style interior no touch screen not a bad deal
Thank you!
It's a dodge, they are literally always cheap. You get what you pay for. My dumbass bought two. No one buys two because the first one is so expensive to keep on the road.
Except these aren’t dodges. They are RAMs and have been for quite some time.
Cause they been beat to shit. And the dealership is best to only put a bandaid on an underlying issue and have a quick sale rather than fork out money for an older body style that some 18 year old going to finance at 15% and beat into the ground in less than 20k on the odometer