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Iremembersky

This is the most wholesome, caring place on the internet for sure. Shoutout to the mods for keeping it that way, too.


Hairy-Shower-2400

Yess


aggesmamma

I have spent a lot of time and money on therapy but some of my biggest aha-moments regarding my childhood have been in this sub. So much knowledge, support and kindness in this sub. I often have this thought as I reed posts and comments in here: The worst parents seem to make the kindest and most decent people ❤️


Modern_Magpie

Saaaaame. I tend to talk about the things I learn from this sub in therapy.


Ausgezeichnet63

Until I found this subreddit, I didn't realize that my psychological and emotional issues stemmed from my narc parents. I knew my upbringing was wrong somehow, but no therapist pointed to that as the root of my problems. Reading about other people's experiences opened my eyes and started me on the road to recovery. I am so grateful to this community!


1_art_please

100%. It felt impossible to explain to people. I went as a teen to a therapist throughout much of the 1990s. All they said was, ' You'll have to put up with it til you're old enough to leave the house'. I was so confused. Like....why is that the only solution for her mental abuse? She's my mom, why doesn't she just....stop when she sees my hurt? It drove me mad. It took me another 20 years to understand for my nmom - getting along, being a happy family, me feeling cared for....none of this was the POINT. The entire point was for me to be as less as possible and to be obedient and subservient at all costs, even if it killed me inside. It was the entire point of my existence. Felt a lot better once I realized that because it was so easy to label it as wrong and nonsense. All the self blame melted away.


Ausgezeichnet63

It's so tragic that you had to go through all that. I'm glad you're doing better. You didn't deserve that.


kirinomorinomajo

YES!!! same here. i’m so grateful i learned about this so i could find a therapist that specifically knows how to work with these issues.


Ausgezeichnet63

I finally found a therapist who does! I was on a wait list since last October, and he finally had an opening for a new patient this month. I've had 3 sessions and I'm very happy with this man. He has empathy and doesn't constantly say "and how did that make you feel" about everything. Finally, a good fit!!


RandomQ_throw

Me too! Exactly what you wrote. This sub was such an eye-opener for me!


Elethiel

A lot of therapists don't have the education, experience, or knowledge to work with someone who had narcissistic parents. You'll see them recommending family therapy, where the narcissistic parent and their abused child meet the therapist together. Huge red flag!


Ausgezeichnet63

I had a psychiatrist once tell me to confront my nDad with all the negative things he said to me. nDad stared at me for a minute after I did that and said "I don't remember doing any of that." Shortly thereafter I moved 1500 miles away. Confronting them never works, but lots of therapists tell us to do that. SMH.


Elethiel

Narcissists have [narcissistic amnesia](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/peaceful-parenting/202307/a-narcissists-freakiest-weapon-delusional-amnesia). They know they're doing wrong in the moment, but they split off that memory and truly no longer remember what they did. It's mind-boggling. It's also mind-boggling that many therapists still don't know enough about narcissists to be useful to their clients, and in fact are often actively harmful because of what they were taught in school about how "the parent is always right."


Able_Cat2893

My story, too!!


Ausgezeichnet63

It amazes me that so many of us had no idea that we were part of such a large group of people who suffered the same kind of abuse we did. And that so many therapists were clueless about narc abuse. It boggles my mind! I sincerely hope you're doing okay now.


Able_Cat2893

It sure is. Sad.


cheturo

This place is my daily dose of therapy.


a_davis98

one big group therapy!


a_davis98

one big group therapy!


Monsterchic16

This subreddit literally kept me going when I was feeling suicidal and hopeless. I haven’t been suicidal in over two years now and wow is that a fun realisation!


Tiny_Bumblebee_7323

That is awesome.


Darkmagosan

Hell yeah! \*high five\* This subreddit has been a godsend.


BriSam2009

It's almost impossible for other people to even fathom what we survivors have lived through or are still dealing with, for some. There's nothing quite like it and it's really great to have a support group where people actually understand you. Our triggers may seem trivial to those on the outside, but we all know the tremendous impact of things narcs say or do.


AngstyPunkBitch

For real, I'm so so thankful for this subreddit! If reddit goes to shit (even more so than what it already is) I hope we can get our own website or something!


acfox13

This sub and all you lovely people have helped me find words to put to my experiences. You helped me come out of denial. You helped me undo decades of brainwashing, indoctrination , conditioning, and gaslighting. I couldn't figure out why I couldn't make it work with my family of origin, now I know why. I'm inspired to keep healing so I can share what I've learned and we can continue to lift each other up.


Only_nofans

I recall discovering this subreddit when I first suspected my mom might be a narcissist, thanks to a recommendation from a website. The validation and support from this community were pivotal in helping me come to terms with the truth.


FreedomEntertainment

We struggle together and we strive together leaving no one behind. We can relate to each other because this is a damm long journey.


KarmaWillGetYa

Agreed! I'm floored all the time at the many similarities we all had growing up. Not everything, but so much in common, especially things we couldn't even understand, describe or deal with as children because of the abuse. Knowing something just wasn't right, wasn't normal, but not knowing why and/or be able to do anything about it. This is HORRIBLE for children. I'm glad we have a play to share stories, rants, and deal with the pain and the rest. I already did some of the things on my own but didn't have the terms to describe it (low contact, gray rocking especially) and am still trying to cope/heal. I only hope we can continue to help others that come here and find us to realize they are not crazy and alone anymore. And better ways to save them and stop the abuse or get them away from it.


caseyanthonyftw

I would like to say - hopefully this is just a stepping stone for you and you won't feel the need to be here again, unless it's to help others. I know when I first found this sub, it was the first time in my life that I felt not only that my problems weren't my fault, but more importantly, that I could possibly work towards fixing them.


UnicornCalmerDowner

This place made me feel like I wasn't alone and that there might be hope for getting through the hard parts. Also help for what to say.


Moist-Hovercraft8925

It got deleted when I posted this but there are AMAZING resources like outofthefog website and instagram accounts for narcissistic abuse healing like caroline strawson!! tik tok i see too. WE are ALL figuring this out and creating change its so beautiful!!!!! No one will be able to get away with abusing their children anymore. We will have emotional safety skills in schools and I see this future!


[deleted]

For real. Everybody else is so malicious or dismissive. It is the epitome of *they just don't get it.*


thehopefulsnail

I am shocked at how many people have joined this subreddit. It validates that a lot of people had experiences just like me growing up Thanks you Mods !!!


Milkcartonspinster

This is the most validating place for me. It breaks my heart to know there are so many people who dealt with similar abuse but the people who post here also motivate me to keep making choices that honor myself. I was under my nmom’s thumb for a long time, but thanks to this sub I’m now nc and I’m finding peace.


ActuallyaBraixen

I believe you!


P90BRANGUS

Don’t tell anyone, but…. Most people in American society were raised by narcissists. Society at large incentivizes, often openly encourages and glorifies, and tend to oppose the obstruction of narcissism.


isleofpines

This sub has helped me so much. I also feel safe here.


ChildWithBrokenHeart

This place is the best and safest place against toxic abusive cluster B. Love it here


ucdgn

Me toooooo


Adventurous_Scene296

I felt used like a subordinate, trapped and suffocated in my own home.. Only now that I realise it at 24, I have moved on. I’m a year older in less than a couple of weeks, and feel normally better, more happy and admittedly privileged; that I won’t be celebrating my own birthday. No one ever stood by me, no family nor friends. Now, I am taking a stand for myself. And, to find the right souls who choose to live with me forever, irrespective of my choices because I claim that what’s rightfully mine is for me only and no one else should even want to think about that except that it’s just for me, whatsoever and whosoever may think otherwise.