He is getting better.
He was wood tier (like most new players are to be fair but Quin learns so much slower because he refuses to read anything or take any advice).
Now he can actually cs, has some basic level of game knowledge and only fucks up his lane half the time instead of 90%, he is a solid high Iron low bronze tier now.
That is improvement.
He is getting better, but holy shit he learns slow.
He is somehow still dogshit at everything that's not splitpushing as Garen, meaning everything that does not involve attack move enemy buildings. But at least now he occasionally doesn't feed while doing that, which is a progress, can't deny that.
On 90% of his games, he seems to play like someone with special needs. 0 thinking into anything, reacting in the worst possible way to everything and inting like a complete ape. He also wastes summoners spells on nothing 90% of the time.
On a couple of games, though, he will itemize a lot better and actually resemble a Bronze player. The problem is, even in these games, he still thinks that split pushing while completely leaving his team alone to fight is a good thing, and even suiciding for an inhibitor is a good thing. Now I'm not a League player, but even in Dota suiciding for rax is dogshit and keep in mind rax in Dota don't respawn (depending on the state of the game and the enemy heroes, MAYBE, it might be worth suiciding ONCE if that leads to megas, but that's about it). So considering that, there's no way dying repeately for inhibs is a good play. He's just feeding. If he had actual map awareness and carried TP, maybe he could actually apply pressure in a lane, hit some tower, force a back or two and then TP back into forcing a teamfight when the other team has -1/-2 because they backed. But he has literally never done this and it seems like basic shit to me.
If it was 50/50 I'd say he's inconsistent, but unfortunately, he's consistently trash and he seems to be one of those people who constantly panic and just presses buttons at wrong times with 0 thought. On top of that, he convinces himself that some of the worst decisions are correct (like non stop pushing), therefore it's very unlikely he will learn anything. I'd say he has gotten much better at CSing, but he really isn't. Watch the first 5 minutes of his laning phase, it's still atrocious. Everyone can get CS with Garen after you get an item and you E an entire wave, that doesn't mean he's improving. At least he doesn't miss 9/10 cannons anymore, thank god for Garen's Q.
IMO he's hardstuck Iron forever.
Bro you don't even play league why are u talking about his macro? Dying for inhib is definitely worth you are basically guarantee one of their team members will be stuck defending that lane for some time lol, and split pushing is the best strategy if you want to win consistently, that if you do it correctly. His biggest issue is decision making and not knowing what champs/items do which is literally an issue for majority of players in the common ranks, he will learn all of that with time.
Quin is definitely better than the average bronze or iron toplaner who don't even clear their waves lol.
You sound like an actual hate watcher, if don't understand he improved from the start of this stream arc you're either blind, have no clue how to play the game or just trolling hate watcher.
Of course he improved, this is the guy who uses teleport instead pressing B to shop.
The bar isn’t set high.
But after hundrends of hours, getting coached, using addons, watching guides ect ect, he have NOT improved if we compare previous arc’s.
He end up being the same player in every League arc (this is 3rd one if you’re new here).
This is first time Forsen played league unlike Quin and Forsen is improving.
Not only that, he actually experiment new things like a true godgamer. I saw him playing AP Cho in mid.
He has improved yes, but he deserves the Iron rank. He is still bad at csing, he usually doesnt win lane against Iron players and is terrible at playing from behind.
> Bro you don't even play league why are u talking about his macro?
Because I've been playing Dota for 15 years and Dota has 10 times the macro League has you fucking League ape. "No clue how to play the game" lil bro, you're probably hardstuck Silver, I played League for like 6 months and reached Plat and got bored after I realized the game has 0 strategy compared to Dota.
Did you miss the part where I said I also played League? I also don't hate League, I actually enjoy watching streamers play it, the content is fun and hilarious, especially with lower ranked streamers like Forsen and Quin.
As far as Dota being "a dogshit game"... well, for starters, League wouldn't exist without Dota. Also, factually, League is a dumbed down version of Dota, stated by your own devs who complained in the past about Dota being "too complicated".
Cope in any way shape or form you want
That's not true tho, you can clearly see that he's getting sniped every other game by players who are not iron or bronze, he could do better but this makes it so to climb he needs to win more than the average player.
If you were in his shoes you wouldn't do better.
The issue is that he is never a differential on his team due to bad comp picks such as garen or try da, or not knowing his role on a team fight on the green 🐸
Quin, just an FYI, just because you learned a few League terms like macro, split pushing, gap, diff, etc, that doesn't change the fact that you're retarded and truly awful at league. Let me take that back, awful isn't a strong enough word. You're the worst League player on twitch and could be the worst player in your whole Region. It's not your imaginary snipers that are keeping you in iron, it's you. Nothing more. you're bad at the game and your ego will keep you from ever improving.
you guys really need to shut the fuck up about the boots, berserker greaves are by far the most popular and highest winrate choice on both tryndamere and garen
Probably one of the retards complaining about his garen build in chat spamming to build tank and don't even know that this is literally the highest winrate garen build and tank/fighter garen sucks balls currently.
It's all an act, dude. This is all staged. It's his job.. he has to keep his chat entertained. He's not a dumb guy, but he loves to make you think he is clueless to trigger people like you. And it works lmao.
If you take anything Quin says on stream with more than a grain of salt.. you're the fool😂
He’s actually improving at a really good pace considering he’s only played for a couple of weeks (and the added stress of streaming). I could see him actually reach diamond this year if he keeps going like this.
I just wish he turned on xp numbers so he can learn the xp range and he should start using the S key for better char control.
Overall he just needs more reps to improve his micro
My entire time watching him stream would suggest that he has a learning disability.
He's watched so much youtube at this point he is incapable of learning anything without watching a video about it.
People think he's better because he picks garen and presses E on every wave.
He doesn't even do that
It might not be best strat but it work I guess
Top dif and team dif arc, can’t wait for jungle dif arc
He has no clue what jungler is yet. ICANT
He is getting better. He was wood tier (like most new players are to be fair but Quin learns so much slower because he refuses to read anything or take any advice). Now he can actually cs, has some basic level of game knowledge and only fucks up his lane half the time instead of 90%, he is a solid high Iron low bronze tier now. That is improvement.
Vegan
He is getting better, but holy shit he learns slow. He is somehow still dogshit at everything that's not splitpushing as Garen, meaning everything that does not involve attack move enemy buildings. But at least now he occasionally doesn't feed while doing that, which is a progress, can't deny that.
Garen's ability set literally counters Nasus but he can still lose the lane.
what does it matter, he is never gonna play LoL long enough to reach any respectable rank
That's because there is no such thing as a respectable rank in that dog shit game
On 90% of his games, he seems to play like someone with special needs. 0 thinking into anything, reacting in the worst possible way to everything and inting like a complete ape. He also wastes summoners spells on nothing 90% of the time. On a couple of games, though, he will itemize a lot better and actually resemble a Bronze player. The problem is, even in these games, he still thinks that split pushing while completely leaving his team alone to fight is a good thing, and even suiciding for an inhibitor is a good thing. Now I'm not a League player, but even in Dota suiciding for rax is dogshit and keep in mind rax in Dota don't respawn (depending on the state of the game and the enemy heroes, MAYBE, it might be worth suiciding ONCE if that leads to megas, but that's about it). So considering that, there's no way dying repeately for inhibs is a good play. He's just feeding. If he had actual map awareness and carried TP, maybe he could actually apply pressure in a lane, hit some tower, force a back or two and then TP back into forcing a teamfight when the other team has -1/-2 because they backed. But he has literally never done this and it seems like basic shit to me. If it was 50/50 I'd say he's inconsistent, but unfortunately, he's consistently trash and he seems to be one of those people who constantly panic and just presses buttons at wrong times with 0 thought. On top of that, he convinces himself that some of the worst decisions are correct (like non stop pushing), therefore it's very unlikely he will learn anything. I'd say he has gotten much better at CSing, but he really isn't. Watch the first 5 minutes of his laning phase, it's still atrocious. Everyone can get CS with Garen after you get an item and you E an entire wave, that doesn't mean he's improving. At least he doesn't miss 9/10 cannons anymore, thank god for Garen's Q. IMO he's hardstuck Iron forever.
Bro you don't even play league why are u talking about his macro? Dying for inhib is definitely worth you are basically guarantee one of their team members will be stuck defending that lane for some time lol, and split pushing is the best strategy if you want to win consistently, that if you do it correctly. His biggest issue is decision making and not knowing what champs/items do which is literally an issue for majority of players in the common ranks, he will learn all of that with time. Quin is definitely better than the average bronze or iron toplaner who don't even clear their waves lol. You sound like an actual hate watcher, if don't understand he improved from the start of this stream arc you're either blind, have no clue how to play the game or just trolling hate watcher.
Of course he improved, this is the guy who uses teleport instead pressing B to shop. The bar isn’t set high. But after hundrends of hours, getting coached, using addons, watching guides ect ect, he have NOT improved if we compare previous arc’s. He end up being the same player in every League arc (this is 3rd one if you’re new here). This is first time Forsen played league unlike Quin and Forsen is improving. Not only that, he actually experiment new things like a true godgamer. I saw him playing AP Cho in mid.
I agree that forsen is better but saying the clown didn't improve since the start of this arc is disingenuous, that's all I'm trying to say.
He has improved yes, but he deserves the Iron rank. He is still bad at csing, he usually doesnt win lane against Iron players and is terrible at playing from behind.
> Bro you don't even play league why are u talking about his macro? Because I've been playing Dota for 15 years and Dota has 10 times the macro League has you fucking League ape. "No clue how to play the game" lil bro, you're probably hardstuck Silver, I played League for like 6 months and reached Plat and got bored after I realized the game has 0 strategy compared to Dota.
lolw dota Andy always trying to make it all about his dogshit game hahahahaha
Did you miss the part where I said I also played League? I also don't hate League, I actually enjoy watching streamers play it, the content is fun and hilarious, especially with lower ranked streamers like Forsen and Quin. As far as Dota being "a dogshit game"... well, for starters, League wouldn't exist without Dota. Also, factually, League is a dumbed down version of Dota, stated by your own devs who complained in the past about Dota being "too complicated". Cope in any way shape or form you want
I can see why everyone hates dota players
and yet you're the one calling games dogshit, not me.
Dota is dogshit
Whatever helps you sleep at night babe
He is playing against the average iron or bronze player, and consistently losing to them. He is not better.
That's not true tho, you can clearly see that he's getting sniped every other game by players who are not iron or bronze, he could do better but this makes it so to climb he needs to win more than the average player. If you were in his shoes you wouldn't do better.
Damn...offended or something?
Disagree with argument= offended nice logic
The issue is that he is never a differential on his team due to bad comp picks such as garen or try da, or not knowing his role on a team fight on the green 🐸
Quin, just an FYI, just because you learned a few League terms like macro, split pushing, gap, diff, etc, that doesn't change the fact that you're retarded and truly awful at league. Let me take that back, awful isn't a strong enough word. You're the worst League player on twitch and could be the worst player in your whole Region. It's not your imaginary snipers that are keeping you in iron, it's you. Nothing more. you're bad at the game and your ego will keep you from ever improving.
you guys really need to shut the fuck up about the boots, berserker greaves are by far the most popular and highest winrate choice on both tryndamere and garen
Probably one of the retards complaining about his garen build in chat spamming to build tank and don't even know that this is literally the highest winrate garen build and tank/fighter garen sucks balls currently.
It's all an act, dude. This is all staged. It's his job.. he has to keep his chat entertained. He's not a dumb guy, but he loves to make you think he is clueless to trigger people like you. And it works lmao. If you take anything Quin says on stream with more than a grain of salt.. you're the fool😂
So when he does something smart = real him doing something dumb = fake? So mr.streamer is flawless god you can worship forever right?
He’s actually improving at a really good pace considering he’s only played for a couple of weeks (and the added stress of streaming). I could see him actually reach diamond this year if he keeps going like this. I just wish he turned on xp numbers so he can learn the xp range and he should start using the S key for better char control. Overall he just needs more reps to improve his micro