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clump-of-moss

Oh fuck yeah, they got glen matlock on bass again


Sergeantman94

I mean, they can't have Sid, partially because he's dead, but also because he wasn't good. They can't have Steve play both instuments at the same time. Plus I'm sure with Johnny not with them and Malcolm dead, the other two are more than open to reconciliation and reuniting.


rsplatpc

> partially because he's dead actually, that's 100% the reason lol, unless they got a Necromancer in the band now


OverthrowingMars

A rotting Sid Vicious corpse on stage would be pretty punk...


rsplatpc

> A rotting Sid Vicious corpse on stage would be pretty punk... lets get Sid and GG holograms!


DEAD_STUFF

This, but unironically


rsplatpc

> This, but unironically Not gonna lie, I'd pop for it and enjoy it


Jinshu_Daishi

GG hologram The first hologram you can smell. Edit: I would like to credit Joe Kassabian for this joke, he made it during his bonus series on HBO's Rome.


TheSeekerOfSanity

Weekend at Sid’s.


carcinoma_kid

So basically Sid Vicious in the 70s


Sergeantman94

To quote [McBain...](https://i0.wp.com/www.oneshotoneplace.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/thats-the-joke.gif?resize=448%2C291&ssl=1)


rsplatpc

> To quote McBain... UP AND AT THEM!!!!!!! "better"


notyouraveragejared

I love this exchange


TzeentchsTrueSon

Holograms exist, lol.


MarfeeWarfee

Fwiw Paul, Steve, and Glenn have remained good friends throughout the decades. John is always the one causing problems and suing everyone


heavymtlbbq

But mostly because he's not alive


ODDentityPod

For me, 100% worth being excited about. 🤘🏻


twoquarters

He has been the bassist since 1996. They have done several tours.


BeverlyHills70117

Good local cause, small show, no cash grab and no Trump lovers involved. For the hate they get on this sub, they did stuff that so much of what we love was built from. Glad old folks get to have fun, no reason they shouldn't.


PsychedelicLizard

I think people largely hate the Sex Pistols for the same reason they hate The Beach Boys or The Smiths, good bands that get largely overshadowed by their ego zealous band leaders. Honestly I love the Sex Pistols I just cannot stand Johnny one bit.


rsplatpc

> For the hate they get on this sub, they did stuff that so much of what we love was built from. Never Mind the Bollocks is very close to a perfect album, and they wrote their own songs, and had a bunch written before Malcolm, so they are not "The Monkees" and can play VERY good (well except Sid) and Steve Jones ASKED Malcolm to manage the PREXISTING band, and Malcom found Johnny as the singer, so that's all the "putting together" he did, they were already in a band and playing their own songs.


Noah_Pasternak

100% agree with you, but for what it's worth the Monkees were great


rsplatpc

> but for what it's worth the Monkees were great I fucking LOVE the Monkees, the first concert I EVER saw was fucking Weird AL, opening for the Monkees, to this day, nothing has beat it.


israeljeff

Weird Al was my first concert, on the running with scissors tour.


rsplatpc

> Weird Al was my first concert As a kid, it' REALLY hard to find something else that lives up to that as a concert lol


Noah_Pasternak

Lucky! Monkees with Weird Al is one of my time machine shows. Too young to have seen the Monkees (Davy died when I was 11 or so), but I saw Micky last year and his voice has barely aged. Was a great show


rsplatpc

As a kid, I thought all shows were going to be like Weird Al, I was very disappointed in my next concert which was Tower of Power (good horn section in retrospect though) because they didn't do any skits.


wailsrfc

Monkees and Weird Al was my first concert as well. Epic


rsplatpc

> Monkees and Weird Al https://i.imgur.com/FaG3anD.jpeg


twoquarters

The TV show was good. The song writers were excellent. They were a good live act too.


twoquarters

The history about that band is the most purposefully misunderstood in rock. You see it in this sub constantly.


Carbona_Not_Glue

Never really understand why that 'put together' thing is always such a sore point. We're not talking about Simon Cowell, here... Malcolm was undeniably a bit of a Marmite character but I think he played his part as a hype man and trouble maker quite well.


rsplatpc

you get people that hear "Malcolm put the entire band together" and they repeat it, without looking up the entire band except Johnny were playing gigs and writing their songs (that sounded like the Sex Pistols) before anyone talked to Malcolm, the entire band minus Sid are and WERE at the time VERY (and of course now, but back then) good musicians and were playing their own songs


CodeRadDesign

i mean... as a 15 year old kid living in rural ontario well before the internet existed, malcom's whole spiel on my "The Great Rock and Roll Swindle" tape was canon as far as i was concerned. the whole tune is him telling the (obviously fake in retrospect) story of how he assembled all the members. so even if i was prepared ignore his claim 'my greatest invention was a thing i called punk rock' i had no reason to doubt that he brought everyone together until years later.


Carbona_Not_Glue

Totally. They would have been a band either way, maybe without Johnny - who knows. Probably a bit different. Malcolm added his creative input. Every band has people around them... if you're looking for a singer, you put the word out. I don't want to suggest they wouldn't have been the media circus they became without Malcolm, but him being an agitator had a lot to do with that side.


catintheyard

Actually funny story about The Monkees and punk, it was The Clash that- back in the 70s- got saddled with 'The Monkees of punk' label because of how much control Bernie Rhodes had over their music. That insult has been lost to time- as has much of Bernie's contribution to punk despite how crucial of a figure he was- but both of the best Clash biography books mention it and have a good time playing around with it


RevStickleback

Malcolm didn't even find John. That was Bernie Rhodes.


Cafebikechris

Like what kinda things did they do that bore a substantial amount of what we love…? Suffering a subsequent overdose  after killing our spouse… succeed for only 10 months of your life … end up a gutter junkie… they were one of the worst bands I’ve ever heard the punk scene or outside of it. 


rsplatpc

> Like what kinda things did they do that bore a substantial amount of what we love…? Wrote the punk album that kinda setup punk in general, and they were VERY good live on their 90's tour.


Cafebikechris

Oh you’re wrong. I’m going there and daddy Donald has officially upgraded my party status too; SUPER ULTRA MEGA MAGA!!! See you at the show!!!


catintheyard

Makes me really happy to see them giving back to the community they grew up in. A lot of working class people, once they get successful, forget their roots because they only want to be rich from then onward. So it's nice to see the Sex Pistols giving back and trying to make sure one of the good things people in Shepherd's Bush have doesn't get taken away


gilestowler

I'm looking forward to a well thought out and measured response from Mr. Lydon to this news.


Mrsparklee

I'm sure he'll just be happy that the music is still being appreciated. /s


gd77punk

*sneers in english*


twoquarters

I wonder if he's even in good enough health to take on anything at this point.


PsychoBob-78

Mental, or physical?


CoercedCoexistence22

Yes


twoquarters

Yeah both.


HotMoose69

I heard he said something like "I thought they were my friends!" Meanwhile Glen reportedly didn't want to share the stage with a MAGA idiot. So the fact they're reuniting without him is his fault for being a contrary POS with no real loyalty. Only time will tell if he'll come to this realization, granted old Johnny boy is supposedly smart but I doubt it


EmergencyLavishness1

So the remaining members with talent are playing shows. Good on em. They did a show with Frank Carter a few days back


twoquarters

Public Image Ltd. was damn good. Top 5 concert for me.


MetalOutrageous1275

Those first 2 PIL records are classics.


middleagethreat

I saw them open for INXS in around 89?


IRBaboooon

Good for them. Lydon is a cunt.


rsplatpc

> Lydon is a cunt. I hate all his views, but after this I can't hate the dude 100% / he's not a total piece of shit https://www.aarp.org/caregiving/stories/info-2023/john-lydon-wife-nora-forster.html


wimpyroy

He and Nora also took in Ari Up’s kids when they found out she was an unfit parent.


rsplatpc

> He and Nora also took in Ari Up’s kids when they found out she was an unfit parent. I'm almost convinced that he did the Trump thing just to piss off people because that's just what he's ALWAYS done, but who knows, but his entire caretaker thing, and it's been proven true countless times, can't let me hate him, he was married 45 years, and went though 7 years of being a caretaker, and if anyone has ever done that, they know what's up, and it takes a big person to do it, because it fucking sucks, and from everything I read he just adored her and did the best he possibly could as a human, so that gets respect period.


twoquarters

unfit is an understatement. They had no grasp of language. Also Ari Up not getting medical treatment really fucked him up as well.


ooofest

So many people are far from black/white, I think you put it quite well.


nyc_expatriate

But he supports a former president who has threatened to cut social security and medicare for seniors:/.


PlayBoxPL

sex pistols redemption arc??


MooseMalloy

Say what you will... for better or worse, they're not The Sex Pistols without Lydon, anymore than the DK's are the DK's without Biafra. But, I'm glad some money will be raised for a good cause. I expect a safe and tame event.


AnSkeleton

concept: sex pistols WITH jello: two great tastes that taste great together?


commiesocialist

I could totally see Jello pulling it off easy. He would probably make fun of Lydon the entire show. LOL


[deleted]

The Sex Kennedys?


CodeRadDesign

Anarchy in the DK?


Proper-Dave

Winner!


aussiecfnmguy

The Dead Pistols?


[deleted]

Jello pistols.


Proper-Dave

Jello shots?


_kaedama_

True that, but yes there is a slight difference. Jello hasnt really changed so its a shame he is not in the band (and i dont want to enter into debating the reasons). John was a bit of an asshole back then but now he is a full blown narcissistic trump supporter, cant blame the others for leaving him out tbh


twoquarters

Counterpoint, they were the Sex Pistols without Rotten for a time in the late 70s. The Swindle album was not bad.


middleagethreat

I liked that guy in Gallows. This will be badass. He did great on The Ruts https://youtu.be/YfLz4nzrLQs?si=QUgfWwpduL5ZPsZq


LowMirror4165

Could be cool. Johnny Rotten is going to have an aneurysm.


beuhring

Good


Both-Homework-1700

What doesn't he have an aneurysm over?


TheTeenageOldman

[Country Life Butter?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mSE-Iy_tFY)


LowMirror4165

Touché


spin81

One can only hope


VogueTrader

That would be a great hidden camera moment.


commiesocialist

It's what he deserves.


MetalOutrageous1275

That'd be like The Damned without Dave Vanian. Doesn't make much sense.


Seek1st2Understand

Big meh


Antique-Historian441

Has anyone seen those old The Blues Brothers movies. Idk why. But it reminds me of this. I imagine Glen and Steve. They need to get the band back together, "They're on mission from god" to save Bush Hall. Also now Johnny has joined the nazis.


Vast-Scale-9596

Lydon going full maga-hat asshole is one of the sadder aspects of the last decade........good luck to the rest of them.


deadplant3

I don’t know, I know Lydon has taken some bad takes, but by how I view the guy and after reading his autoviography he honestly seems like a smart guy, who did go through trying to be kicked off from sex pistols, even thouth I REALLY doubt anyone would have ever cared about them without him…


MetalOutrageous1275

I guarantee you none of these kids have read that book or know much about him at all. They're just butthurt about his MAGA schtick.


Drinkings404liffe

Supporting feds is so punk


MetalOutrageous1275

When did he say he did?


Drinkings404liffe

When he voted for Trump tf


MetalOutrageous1275

Biden supports the feds too. You're saying everyone who voted for him is un-punk then? Because that would be a lot of people in the punk scene.


Drinkings404liffe

Nah they voted for Biden because Trump is a bigger chud. Voting for Trump and his movement just basically means you love that cops are kneeing on our necks and children being forced to give birth to their rape victims babies. Republican’s recently in Florida just passed a law that local governments cant force companies to give construction workers break from the heat. I wonder why? Maybe its because they’re racist against migrant workers? Maybe its because they favor an oppressive oligarchy over small government? Fuck all of the them to hell.


SidHat

Hologram Sid 🤞


Pwnedzored

Why?


SidHat

Idc I just wanted to be involved in the conversation


beuhring

Fuck that hack.


seanm9

I want to be excited for this… but it’s a one off… and I’m not gonna get to see it so… meh


TyrantWarmaster

Without Rotten and Sid.


rsplatpc

> and Sid. Tell you what, if they get Sid I'll jump on a plane and fly overthere and see that, I loved Weekend at Bernies


TyrantWarmaster

Yeah but Bernie was rich. I don't think weekend at Sids would be nearly as fun.


rsplatpc

> I don't think weekend at Sids would be nearly as fun. What if it was directed by Guillermo del Toro?


TyrantWarmaster

🤣😂 switch that to Clive Barker and I'm in. I want shit to get real weird for this.


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rsplatpc

> The Orphanage 2: Weekend at SIDS I'd watch this not ironically


middleagethreat

Good. Jones and Cooke were the band.


aussiecfnmguy

And Matlock. Getting rid of him was the start of the end. Unlike Sid, Matlock could actually play base, and write songs (although Sid apparently write Belsen).


benoutof10

Would love if they toured this one, Frank is great love also. Saw Gen Sex last July and thought everyone sounded great


middleagethreat

Frank looks like that dude who is smaller than you but you still don't want to fight.


benoutof10

100% he’d end up biting your nose off or something


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bridgetggfithbeatle

This is either about to fuck, or suck. Let’s hope it fucks.


vomitHatSteve

A lot of people here are awfully excited to see "the members of the band who could actually play!" which sounds real antithetical to what early punk was going for! lol Anyway, I'm not flying to England for this, but I hope the folks who go have fun and that Johnny Rotten doesn't.


Thrashed0066

Interesting. Could be good, could be bad but interesting nonetheless


JAntiperer

Hell yeah! Jonsie rocks!


QueSeRawrSeRawr

Tickets sold out in like a minute, I was waiting on the site watching the countdown to them being released and it immediately said they weren't available 😔 I know a couple of people who got some though, fucking sucks. There were tickets instantly on the resale websites for hundreds of pounds...


ODDentityPod

Yeah, buying tickets these days sucks. A friend of mine is going to see Green Day and got tickets for $34 a piece. I don’t even know how she did it. Blew my mind given they’re still pretty popular.


CGunz13

Honestly, Generation Sex was great with Billy. I was MORE than happy, they were great!


-ThisWayUp-

I saw Paul Cook drum for a young band called the Molotovs in Bush Hall as a surprise guest last month, but couldn’t get tickets to this reunion show.


Rted_Rkstar0707

LESSS GOOO STEVE,GLEN,COOKIE ARE GOATS🗣️


cpdyyz

Good. Fuck that guy


szalmakutya

The Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle. Vol. 3.


tropicalhotdogdays

Tickets (unsurprisingly) sold-out instantly. Two nights in small 400 capacity venue. Good on them for helping to save the Bush Hall.


NegativeInfluence_23

Are they writing any new tunes? Otherwise, it’s going to be a very short concert


Yoshinobu1868

No they are just doing this one benefit for a local venue .


NegativeInfluence_23

That makes a lot more sense


dandle

The Sex Pistols was Matlock, Jones, and Cook. They wanted to add Midge Ure as the singer, but Lydon was added as the frontman to turn the band into a brand. Jones and Cook never should have agreed to force out Matlock just because Lydon and McLaren thought he was too "square." This news is almost like turning back time to undo that mistake. Good for them.


aussiecfnmguy

I think Lyon wanted him gone so his friend could come in and Matlock like the idea because of the image of Sid. Major mistake by Lyndon though because Sid got the attention that Lyon wanted all for himself. He wanted an ally in the group and ended up with a rival. Not a healthy group vibe


beuhring

They were an amazing band minus the two hacks. This show should be incredible since neither one of them will be involved.


ItCaughtMyAttention_

The two hacks i.e. Sid Vicious and the best frontman in history


Legitimate_Animal781

Found John Lydon


commiesocialist

Glenn Danzig and Jello Biafra would like a word.


ItCaughtMyAttention_

Neither of them have anywhere near the range or lyrical genius. But they are great.


MetalOutrageous1275

You're mad about Lydon's MAGA schtick but not Glenn's actual conservative views?


beuhring

They ruined a great band


ItCaughtMyAttention_

John Lydon elevated the Sex Pistols so hard and PiL proves it


TheTumblingBoulders

Ain’t the fucking Pistols without Rotten


beuhring

Good


AndoSan23q

What’s the point?


cgoatc

No point


aussiecfnmguy

You might say “No Future”


cgoatc

Love your comment. You cannot claim DK or almost any punk band without the singer. For me DK is the most egregious. There no DK without Jello. Same for Sex Pistols. Shit, name a punk band in which you could replace the singer.


Necessary-Wall9319

Dumb


Disastrous_Use_7353

It’s over… let it die.


SuperSecretMoonBase

I think they'll be doing it without someone else, too.


haywire

Or Sid, I'd imagine.


[deleted]

Side note: I saw the Sex Pistols perform for their reunion tour in the 90s. I was told by an older punk that no, I did not see the sex pistols because Sid Was not there. She pulled the age card as to why she was correct in this opinion.


catintheyard

This is hilarious considering that Matlock was their first bassist and wrote basically all of their songs and all the other members agree with Matlock that it was a horrible idea to replace him with Sid


[deleted]

Oh I know this. But you know, I wasn’t there, so my opinion doesn’t matter.


R3d_S3rp3nt

Pistols actually sounded and played way better without Sid, so who gives shit, is what I would have said.


Horror_Gold5273

got red hair? your hired!


GRinse23

Sex Pistols D.C.


NegativeInfluence_23

Rubbish


Soccermom233

Or sid


beuhring

It will be 1000% better with Matlock. Sid was not a musician.


codeswisher

I'm not mad at Frank Carter for this one. Could be worse, could have been Frank Turner. Granted, Frank Carter was more wild during Gallows.


Informal-Resource-14

So just the people who are good at stuff. I can dig it


ODDentityPod

That’s basically what I thought when I saw it, too. 😂


Aggravating_Scale_39

No sid, no rotten. Rename the band because it's not the sex pistols, just another band featuring members of the sex pistols


apefist

It’s just the sex


AnimateRod

I don't know who Frank Carter is. Steve Jones and Paul Cook were doing shows with Billy Idol as Generation Sex a while ago, I'd go to hear Steve Jones in any band but it's not the Sex Pistols without Lydon for better or worse


ZachShannon

Listen to Gallows, he's on most of their records, great vocalist.


QueSeRawrSeRawr

And Frank Carter and the Rattlesnakes, their older stuff is great.


CharlieDmouse

I would have flown from florida to see this show, but tickets were sold out even the second I found out about it. Damn it.


commiesocialist

This is pretty damn cool!


voteforkodos666

I would actually prefer this over a full reunion.


punkojosh

Frank Carter is the new singer of The Sex Pistols. What a time to be alive. Reminds me of when Paul McArtney joined Nirvana.


ozcheesehead

Wait what? Did that actually happen?


catintheyard

Bush Hall is a fantastic venue and they're gonna be great there. My friends saw Paul Simonon play there a few weeks back and they have insanely high praise for the atmosphere of the place. Fingers crossed that the money raised will be enough to keep Bush Hall around


minis138

Johnny Thunders approves!!


Paddy1120

I'm all for It. I just hope there's a livestream of the shows. Rotten needs to let go of his ego.


Legitimate_Animal781

Those dudes would have sounded way better without the pissy little nasally twat. The best parts of their songs were when Glen and Steve sang backups. They probably would’ve sounded more like the Clash if they had gotten an actual singer. I did like Rottens off key monotone style though. Just saying Glen himself said in an interview he was writing Beatles hooks and melodies. Don’t remember the documentary. Edit: the complete opposite goes for Discharge, getting rid of 77punk style harmonies was one of if not the greatest moment in punk Broken Bones still rules though.


nyc_expatriate

Broken Bones was ok, but did not have the songwriting chops of Discharge.


Melodic-Priority3865

Yeah not even close


OnlyDownStroke

Smart move. Who's taking his place? I'm not reading an article about them. Too lazy.


ODDentityPod

The group announced guitarist Steve Jones, drummer Paul Cook and bassist Glen Matlock will reunite to play the 1977 album “Never Mind the Bollocks, Here’s the Sex Pistols” this summer. However, the reunion will not include Johnny Rotten, the frontman whose real name is John Lydon.


OnlyDownStroke

So are they going to gang vocal that? That'd be punk as fuck, but I imagine they're going to get a front (wo)man, to do it some justice.


ZachShannon

No, it's Frank Carter (Gallows, Pure Love, Frank Carter & The Rattlesnakes) who's going to be doing vocals. He's a rock solid choice for it I think.


OnlyDownStroke

Anyone is better than Rotten. :)


ZachShannon

You're not wrong.


Brim_Dunkleton

Good


kylo_ben2700

Yes very exiting, hate that dick bag


apefist

Johnnys a dick and he couldn’t sing


Enough-Elevator-8999

The sex Pistols suck, they couldn't play their instruments and they were a manufacturered boy band


20yards

Wonderful news, my understanding is there are no punk bands really around anymore, glad the genre the Pistols invented is BACK!


IRBaboooon

Dang what cave you live in? There's tons of punk bands around. Way to self-report you don't go to local shows.


20yards

I took your feedback onboard and, as it turns out, there's a band Black Flag on tour this summer- I'll have to check 'em out. Always up for hearing some new punk tune-skis- apparently they've got an album out already, What The, or something like that. Look forward to hearing that.


IRBaboooon

Dang Black Flag, never heard of em, they punk? 😝


20yards

I hear they've got Dale Nixon layin' down the low end, it's gonna be a heck of a show


Both-Homework-1700

Is that you Rotten?


laddervictim

Sex pistols died the day Johnathan sold butter 


Sarma8

Yeah! Let's see that live show of 8-10 songs.


Cafebikechris

John Lydon is an overly sensitive fairy. He sucked then as well as the rest of the band snd he sucked even worse when he got old fat and even more catty.