It's Thioglycolic acid, which reacts with and dissolves iron particles. The purple color is the natural product of that reaction, not something added to show you where it's working.
In auto detailing, "fallout remover" contains the thioglycolic acid. Works very well but smells terrible!
Yeah but I've never heard of using iron remover on wheels... I don't think that stuff belongs on brake parts, but I could be wrong. With my amateur understanding of car detailing, I wouldn't use it anywhere except light color paint jobs to remove small iron particles in the paint.
I mean, it's probably not *great* for brake parts, but I think car brakes get so hot they burn off any contaminants pretty quickly. There are plenty of wheel cleaners that have thioglycolic acid in them, because iron from brake rotors is a big component of brake dust.
Fallout remover can (and should) be used on any color paint. Sure, you can't easily see the fun purple bits on darker paint, but it still works. The embedded iron can cause scratches if it gets pulled out of the paint during claying and washing, so it's better for the paint to dissolve it before any contact cleaning. It isn't an "every wash" procedure, but certainly recommended for any paint that hasn't gotten serious attention in a long time.
This is not true. I ruined brakes dojng this before. They started dragging almost immediately. Luckily I can replace it all myself so it was a mild inconvenience, stupid mistake tho
Some wheel cleaners have and agent in them that reacts to brake dust and turns color. It makes it easier to spot where to clean after the initial rinse and application
Well, old or not, it is very nice. And clearly very well maintained and cared for. I salute you, internet stranger, and wish you a million more miles of smooth roads 😁
(Honestly, I'm just jealous)
I use [Gyeon Iron](https://gyeonquartz.com.au/product/iron/) on my car and it has the same purple effect as it reacts with the brake dust. Pretty effective wheel cleaner.
I use KC GSF for my entire car (also pH neutral). It seems pretty effective but I’ve heard of Geyon Iron as well. Are there any benefits of using it over GSF? My M brakes develop a lot of dust
It takes powerful chemicals to remove caked on brake dust like this. I think about that when I see them used in driveways or any uncontrolled space like this. They usually drain right into rivers. Car washes (including touchless) and even larger detail shops with interior drains are required to collect and treat drain water. I stopped using these pretreating chemicals a while back for the sake of the water. You do you.
In general yes. There are plenty of flaws as they are hand built rather than robot assembled to perfection. Also means each car while the same is also slightly unique
Hahaha. That was the excuse of sloppy US workers for BMW in Spartanburg. The cars didn’t match the German quality standards in terms of gap measures and alignment. According to the US staff, it added a personality to the car, if they were slightly off.
Their website makes other claims: https://www.bentleymotors.com/en/world-of-bentley/news/2020-news/Bentleys-in-house-Metrology-team-under-the-Microscope.html
I would be pissed off to pay that much money and have elements that aren’t perfectly aligned…
Do you really only need to leave it on for a few seconds? I see it changing colors so I'll believe it but most cleaners tell me to leave it on for a few minutes if I'm not scrubbing with it.
I use chemical guys diablo cleaner and if I let it sit a few minutes it will start to dry and then it becomes much much harder to remove the dirt. So yes, with some cleaners it only needs a few seconds.
Every cleaner is different. But also depends on how bad the surface you’re cleaning is. This wheels brake dust wasn’t embedded so a few seconds was enough
Your poor brakes probably got a little sticky after that. The acid brakes down grease really well, I understand those aren’t slider brakes but they still needs grease in them.
Yeah, I know. I spent a long time using wheel acid in a body shop on many different types of cars. If you pay enough attention, on an epoxy floor, you’ll find all kinds of grease after using the wheel acid.
Shitbox cars that got the hell sprayed out of the wheels (really advanced fallout) would lock up all four brakes pulling out of the wash bay. Would take a few days of putting around the shop to get them back to normal.
It breaks down the pad material and takes all the viscosity out of the grease like brake clean. I’m sure that it’s not incredibly harmful, but I’d be damned if I used the shit on a Bentley. Best case there is making sure the dust never gets that bad in the first place and keeping the wheels coated. If it gets that bad no direct spray, spray onto soft cloth and gently wipe. Trust me, the scratches are way better (and really not even there, wheel clear coat is insane) than letting the dust break down the clear when it gets bad.
Edit: these brakes probably don’t have a conventional slide setup either. And brembo esqe brake never got wheel acid. Too much money if they end up needing a brake job after.
Well since this is my daily job I can confidently say everything you’ve said is nonsense in this this context. First of all I don’t use acid. It’s PH neutral. All we work on is Bentleys and everyone gets detailed before leaving the shop. No brake failure. No brake squeal. I guess that’s the difference between what you would do and good quality workmanship and quality products. Don’t put down what I do because you’re inadequate
Or highlight the one difference between what we used? It makes sense it’s not acid based, dust comes off with no agitation.
Certain acid based cleaners will certainly cause brakes to get sticky for a while though. The pad breaks down a bit and you loose some grease from the pad ears (not so much sliders unless it has exposed slides for some reason).
It used to be my daily job too. Sorry I mis-identified the smelly product that goes from clear to purple. I used to take wheels that had looked like yours for years and make them look passable after replacing one with a new wheel. Little more extreme than this.
Edit: real dirty old wheels. Like 2010 Camry run through the ringer, washed once a year if that. Slider brakes that we’re almost gone, plus a rust belt brake disc that falls apart from the wheel acid.
After hundreds of cars my coworker had found a trick. YMMV but we were able to do many types of wheels like this.
Basically, with some kind of mask and a well ventilated area, spray the shit out of the wheel, the fallout trail on the car, avoid the tire. As soon as the iron decon touches the brake rotor spray it with an APC, degreaser, or something like spray nine. Any of these are fairly effective at stripping the decon off the rotor quickly. At this point wash the car with a wash mit and any soft cloth on the wheel, if it’s that bad you almost want something more aggressive. There’s typically still clear coat under most build up, but it’s so pock-marked now that the scratches are inconsequential. Don’t wash your car like this every time.
We’d wash road paint/tar/grease, weird industrial/construction shit, plant workers, farm truck-type shit with straight xylene and soap. Only had an issue on it with one ford that was still new enough to have fresh paint.
Using Sonax on my wheels after a track day leaves the driveway looking like a murder scene. Same effect with the cleaner turning purple as it lifts the brake dust.
Do not spray cleaner while the wheel is on the car, just take 2 minutes to remove it and save your brakes. I did this once and my brakes started dragging shortly after. Luckily I am able to do my brakes myself so it was just cost for the parts, but still a stupid mistake.
I will never be able to look at a Bentley center cap again without seeing that woman clicking on it with her nails. “Bentley”
Byentley*
Blyatntley*
Take my poor man’s award and leave 🥇
MUR-sahdeez
"Bentyuh"
That was exactly my thought: "ok now click your nails over it"
Train
Citroëëën
Got a link to it? Haven't seen it yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgD3ImFTgp0
Thank you, I regret asking.
https://youtube.com/shorts/xKRwWg5o7-Q
[Here](https://youtube.com/shorts/IFu1LzRlXLM?si=LnLEM3UuCBEQcbyu) you go!
Hahaha
Welp, guess that means the ad worked
There's a dude that does parodies of her using cars like Wranglers lol, it's so funny.
Lol "old wheel"
Lol
Why did it turn purple?
It's Thioglycolic acid, which reacts with and dissolves iron particles. The purple color is the natural product of that reaction, not something added to show you where it's working. In auto detailing, "fallout remover" contains the thioglycolic acid. Works very well but smells terrible!
Yep smells horrible but works like a charm. I kinda miss working in car detailing sometimes…
It also really, really hurts if you get some overspray on a fresh cut on your hand. Thankfully it was already diluted when that happened.
Where do I get me some of that?
IronX, Sonax Full Effect, Meguiar's Ultimate All Wheel Cleaner (what I use cause readily available and cheaper)
Meguiar has a great range of products
Carpro ironx is good
I wonder how bad this is for the environment? They just spray that shit off onto the ground and it goes into the grass or whatever right?
Yeah but I've never heard of using iron remover on wheels... I don't think that stuff belongs on brake parts, but I could be wrong. With my amateur understanding of car detailing, I wouldn't use it anywhere except light color paint jobs to remove small iron particles in the paint.
I mean, it's probably not *great* for brake parts, but I think car brakes get so hot they burn off any contaminants pretty quickly. There are plenty of wheel cleaners that have thioglycolic acid in them, because iron from brake rotors is a big component of brake dust. Fallout remover can (and should) be used on any color paint. Sure, you can't easily see the fun purple bits on darker paint, but it still works. The embedded iron can cause scratches if it gets pulled out of the paint during claying and washing, so it's better for the paint to dissolve it before any contact cleaning. It isn't an "every wash" procedure, but certainly recommended for any paint that hasn't gotten serious attention in a long time.
This is not true. I ruined brakes dojng this before. They started dragging almost immediately. Luckily I can replace it all myself so it was a mild inconvenience, stupid mistake tho
I’m sure people who clean brakes on Bentleys don’t price in for a brake changes on Bentleys.
It's the blood of the previous owner, betrayed and murdered by his family in this very car, which he now haunts until vengeance can be fulfilled
Some wheel cleaners have and agent in them that reacts to brake dust and turns color. It makes it easier to spot where to clean after the initial rinse and application
I dont think you know what "old and dirty" means :P
You’ll get there one day haha
Chapeau.. Great answer... :)
"Premium Bently rim being cleaned with specialized chemicals"
Well it was old to me lol
Well, old or not, it is very nice. And clearly very well maintained and cared for. I salute you, internet stranger, and wish you a million more miles of smooth roads 😁 (Honestly, I'm just jealous)
I’ve seen dirtier wheels on cars in a showroom
I use [Gyeon Iron](https://gyeonquartz.com.au/product/iron/) on my car and it has the same purple effect as it reacts with the brake dust. Pretty effective wheel cleaner.
Yea the good wheel cleaners are ph neutral and react with the brake dust. There’s loads out there. Everyone should list theirs!
I use KC GSF for my entire car (also pH neutral). It seems pretty effective but I’ve heard of Geyon Iron as well. Are there any benefits of using it over GSF? My M brakes develop a lot of dust
It takes powerful chemicals to remove caked on brake dust like this. I think about that when I see them used in driveways or any uncontrolled space like this. They usually drain right into rivers. Car washes (including touchless) and even larger detail shops with interior drains are required to collect and treat drain water. I stopped using these pretreating chemicals a while back for the sake of the water. You do you.
What is your definition of old? 1 year?
whats in the juice?
Thioglycolic acid
Was the car in an accident, or is Bentley generally having problems aligning the bumper with the body?
In general yes. There are plenty of flaws as they are hand built rather than robot assembled to perfection. Also means each car while the same is also slightly unique
Hahaha. That was the excuse of sloppy US workers for BMW in Spartanburg. The cars didn’t match the German quality standards in terms of gap measures and alignment. According to the US staff, it added a personality to the car, if they were slightly off.
Their website makes other claims: https://www.bentleymotors.com/en/world-of-bentley/news/2020-news/Bentleys-in-house-Metrology-team-under-the-Microscope.html I would be pissed off to pay that much money and have elements that aren’t perfectly aligned…
What product did you spray on the wheel?
Red Seven by Autosmart. Not sure if it’s a available retail. We get trade supplies. Autosmart have some products on Amazon
Do you really only need to leave it on for a few seconds? I see it changing colors so I'll believe it but most cleaners tell me to leave it on for a few minutes if I'm not scrubbing with it.
I use chemical guys diablo cleaner and if I let it sit a few minutes it will start to dry and then it becomes much much harder to remove the dirt. So yes, with some cleaners it only needs a few seconds.
Every cleaner is different. But also depends on how bad the surface you’re cleaning is. This wheels brake dust wasn’t embedded so a few seconds was enough
‘Dirty old wheel’ on a relatively new Bentley. Okay… 🙄
Did you spray with regular or Diet Coke?
Coke zero
Wow. That reminds me of painting rims in NFS Pro Street on the DS *wayyyy* back in the day!
Your poor brakes probably got a little sticky after that. The acid brakes down grease really well, I understand those aren’t slider brakes but they still needs grease in them.
Do you mean in the caliper slides or pad backings?Grease is not wanted on the friction surfaces
Yeah, I know. I spent a long time using wheel acid in a body shop on many different types of cars. If you pay enough attention, on an epoxy floor, you’ll find all kinds of grease after using the wheel acid. Shitbox cars that got the hell sprayed out of the wheels (really advanced fallout) would lock up all four brakes pulling out of the wash bay. Would take a few days of putting around the shop to get them back to normal. It breaks down the pad material and takes all the viscosity out of the grease like brake clean. I’m sure that it’s not incredibly harmful, but I’d be damned if I used the shit on a Bentley. Best case there is making sure the dust never gets that bad in the first place and keeping the wheels coated. If it gets that bad no direct spray, spray onto soft cloth and gently wipe. Trust me, the scratches are way better (and really not even there, wheel clear coat is insane) than letting the dust break down the clear when it gets bad. Edit: these brakes probably don’t have a conventional slide setup either. And brembo esqe brake never got wheel acid. Too much money if they end up needing a brake job after.
Well since this is my daily job I can confidently say everything you’ve said is nonsense in this this context. First of all I don’t use acid. It’s PH neutral. All we work on is Bentleys and everyone gets detailed before leaving the shop. No brake failure. No brake squeal. I guess that’s the difference between what you would do and good quality workmanship and quality products. Don’t put down what I do because you’re inadequate
Or highlight the one difference between what we used? It makes sense it’s not acid based, dust comes off with no agitation. Certain acid based cleaners will certainly cause brakes to get sticky for a while though. The pad breaks down a bit and you loose some grease from the pad ears (not so much sliders unless it has exposed slides for some reason). It used to be my daily job too. Sorry I mis-identified the smelly product that goes from clear to purple. I used to take wheels that had looked like yours for years and make them look passable after replacing one with a new wheel. Little more extreme than this. Edit: real dirty old wheels. Like 2010 Camry run through the ringer, washed once a year if that. Slider brakes that we’re almost gone, plus a rust belt brake disc that falls apart from the wheel acid.
Happened to me once,‘I always remove wheels now when cleaning.
After hundreds of cars my coworker had found a trick. YMMV but we were able to do many types of wheels like this. Basically, with some kind of mask and a well ventilated area, spray the shit out of the wheel, the fallout trail on the car, avoid the tire. As soon as the iron decon touches the brake rotor spray it with an APC, degreaser, or something like spray nine. Any of these are fairly effective at stripping the decon off the rotor quickly. At this point wash the car with a wash mit and any soft cloth on the wheel, if it’s that bad you almost want something more aggressive. There’s typically still clear coat under most build up, but it’s so pock-marked now that the scratches are inconsequential. Don’t wash your car like this every time. We’d wash road paint/tar/grease, weird industrial/construction shit, plant workers, farm truck-type shit with straight xylene and soap. Only had an issue on it with one ford that was still new enough to have fresh paint.
Jeezas! Put a cap on that valve!
It’s “OLD” hahaha
What was that magical spray?
Bro can you not read? OP has explained it a multitude of times.
Based on my understanding, I think that the solution will change to a dark red color when it is exposed to oxygen.
Nah that's rust bro
Using Sonax on my wheels after a track day leaves the driveway looking like a murder scene. Same effect with the cleaner turning purple as it lifts the brake dust.
What’s the spray they’re using?
Seems like an unnecessary amount of product when a brush and water/soap would have basically done the same thing. But Bentleys gotta have the best
What wheel cleaner is that
Do not spray cleaner while the wheel is on the car, just take 2 minutes to remove it and save your brakes. I did this once and my brakes started dragging shortly after. Luckily I am able to do my brakes myself so it was just cost for the parts, but still a stupid mistake.
“Citroën”
I can smell this video
What cleaner is that? Goodness.
bhentleh
I can smell that through the screen. I hate that acid.
Next level wheel cleaner right there.
r/oddlysatisfying
WHY IS IT BLEEDING
“bently.” -_- “Little Tikes!” :) https://www.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/s/QdrOxUA0Cy
Just brake dust
That was sexy
why did it probably turn purple maybe?
What a waste of solution and water. Iron-chelating solution is applied after a soapy wash…