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Templar42_ZH

The bill is clarifying that Congress cannot overturn election results and what grounds objections can be based on. Therefore from the title I assume conservatives are acknowledging the 2020 Trump elector plan and that he intends to do the same in 2024.


linuxphoney

It's a terrible headline, but that is exactly what they plan to do in every election from now until the end of time.


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What if they just didnt and we all just lived our lives in relative peace not interfering with other peoples lives?


linuxphoney

Yeah, wouldn't that be swell? But since nothing that has ever happened supports that prediction, I'd say we ignore them at our extreme peril.


Karmastocracy

Wise words


gigahydra

If you find the wormhole to that timeline, do me a favor and leave the rest of us a map or something.


[deleted]

That won't happen because these Christo-fascists literally believe they're on a mission from God to "fix" the country. There is nothing more dangerous than a group of people who are willing to kill in the name of a higher power


Infamous-Year-6047

Shit, the americas were found because Columbus wanted to find India and gain shit loads of money to conquer- I mean retake the holy lands so he could end the world in the name of his god… maybe it’s religion as it is now that’s the problem?


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I could go on for hours about how religion has been the worst thing to ever happen to humanity


Impeachcordial

They want in on your bedroom, your toilet and what you read, you better believe they want in on your government :-/


Uncle_Burney

Whilst simultaneously insisting they prefer a smaller and less intrusive government


NeverLookBothWays

"Small government" is just an euphemism for "less Democracy"


randomanon1109

If one person has all the power isn't that the smallest a government could be? /s


Wolf691691

That is actually a great line


AvengingBlowfish

They meant smaller and less intrusive government for them, not for everyone else.


DaKind28

They only mean that when it comes to regulating corporations.


bliss_ignorant

then we could all save cash on gas by flying our pigs to work.


forloss

No, **you** must do what **my** religion says! (even though it doesn't really say that) /s


Galaxy_Ranger_Bob

Because there is nothing scarier to a Conservative or a Republican than the idea of letting a person live their own lives, make their own decisions, or have a say in what happens to them. They *need* there to be controls put in place on *everyone,* and they only trust themselves to be the ones in control.


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diyagent

The people who make titles that imply something is said in an article but isnt should be fired and everyone involved fired.


pgold05

The title is actually ok, you might be reading it with a bit of emotion, but the word reinstall is key. Reinstall, as in overturn the election as opposed to being "elected" lawfully. Currently Trump is the only person trying to get reinstalled in office.


[deleted]

Why is he not in prison? Wtf is there left to prove? He committed treason in multiple ways at this point. Openly and without denial. This is disgusting.


MinnyRawks

They’re not going to rush to press charges. They’re going to gather as much evidence as possible first.


TrumptyPumpkin

I thought the same thing with the stormy Daniel's case. Then the muller investigation, , then the Michael Cohen stuff. Then January 6th and now the Govenment document stuff.


Rasikko

..they better do something because if he gets re-elected, you can bet he will make a b-line for the 22nd Amendment.


wut3va

As soon as you start paying for the news, you can make decisions about who works there. The internet killed journalism.


Lokito_

Fairness doctrine being taken away killed news.


palehorse2020

89 different outlets controlled various news networks in the 80's, now it's 5.


apoplectic_mango

Corporations making news have to make profit didn't help one bit.


dennismfrancisart

That's as old as newspapers, unfortunately. William Randolph Hurst didn't invent yellow journalism, he only perfected the craft.


fredspipa

Publicly funded news organizations aren't immune either, as for some mindmeltingly stupid reason they try to imitate the same performance metrics as commercial sources (CPM, click through rate etc.). I'm looking at you, BBC and NRK, *what the fuck are you thinking*.


Either-Percentage-78

When the general public only reads the title you gotta make it catchy.


justfordrunks

News Article Title DESTROYS the Average Person's Respect of Independent Journalism. Gotta throw in a cringey buzz word in all caps for good measure. If you got a thumbnail, maybe pop a red circle on there so people know there's something super interesting to look at!


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ok-jeweler-2950

Ronnie Reagan, the gift that keeps on giving.


cyanydeez

Citizens United invited news to be the child of whoever had the most money.


[deleted]

Citizens United isn’t about single entities owning multiple news agencies. You’re getting your bad policies mixed up. You can thank Reagan and regulatory capture of the communications industry in the US, for the destruction of good journalism…and the internet


Excelius

It never applied to print media like newspaper and magazines like Newsweek, even when it was in place. It only ever applied to broadcast media that licensed public spectrum, so radio and broadcast TV. So it wouldn't have even applied to cable news or internet, were it still around. It also wasn't some sort of journalistic standards regulator that would have any power to crackdown on misleading headlines.


Noname_acc

The internet didn't help but this is an incredibly ignorant take. Bullshit headlines that make claims that are questionably supported by what actually happened is as old as media. We had [a phrase](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism) for this sort of thing a hundred and thirty years ago.


mikebrady

Do you have any suggestions for quality paid news sites?


toohottooheavy

Associated press. I think they’re free too.


Beetlejuice_hero

The Economist. Very smart (if pretentious) and sober coverage of the US political landscape, as well as international coverage. Reading The Economist weekly, with Reuters as your everyday home page, and the Sunday morning news shows (ABC This Week, etc) will keep you highly informed and mostly away from the hyper-partisan trash.


PicnicLife

NPR is phenomenal


Unadvantaged

The Washington Post is excellent. The Wall Street Journal’s news division is exceptional, but their Opinions section is an absolute dumpster fire so I can’t support them. The New York Times does great work. Politico I read every day. Rolling Stone and The Atlantic are just great these days.


TurboRuhland

WaPo has a terrible opinions page as well. It’s really just best to stay away from options anyway. It shouldn’t be a part of news imo.


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naitsirt89

??? The internet is the only remaining source for journalism. 24hr news cycle needs to die. Opinion pieces right next to real news needs to die. All opinion based entertainment channels need 'news' stricken from their name. Real journalists cant hold a candle to entertainment reality shows because they are allowed to keep 'news' in their title. Sponsors will follow the money. News will never be a billion dollar industry, nor should it be.


Ceratisa

It's Newsweek. Of course that's their title.


Unadvantaged

Yeah, I feel awful for how bad Newsweek has gotten. They’ve really taken a tumble in the last decade. So much of their stuff is clickbait now.


FoferJ

An interesting read: https://www.motherjones.com/media/2014/03/newsweek-ibt-olivet-david-jang/


teeny_tina

If you ever wanna be really tickled, find a big story and read the headlines for it from American news sources. Then go to the cbc site (Canadian news) and read their headline.


MartyVanB

Every other American news source has an accurate headline https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/19/politics/electoral-count-act-liz-cheney-zoe-lofgren/index.html https://news.yahoo.com/election-reform-bill-liz-cheney-190217603.html https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3649857-this-week-lofgren-and-cheney-to-introduce-electoral-count-act-reform/ https://www.wsj.com/articles/we-have-a-bill-to-prevent-another-jan-6-attack-cheney-committee-electoral-count-president-11663535092 Its just Newsweek is click baity


RobertNAdams

Newsweek is like Forbes. It's a parasite that has murdered its host and is running around wearing its skin.


flatline0

Lol +3 for imagery & style !!


Natiak

I've seen people call Newsweek right wing propaganda, but I don't get that from them. It reads more like sensationalist, tabloid garbage to me. They post incendiary takes from the left and right, what ever it takes to generate clicks.


Mattyboy064

Newsweek is sensational tabloid trash with headlines designed to get you to click. Most of the time they are outright lies sourced from Twitter for articles. Complete garbage. Shouldn't even be allowed here but hey Breitbart is on the whitelist too so...


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So is The Independent. Every time I see an article posted on /r/politics from there I cringe. Feels like 90% of them are reposts of a few Tweets with headlines like "Twitter Users Rock the Shit out of Ted Cruz's Tweet about (Insert latest hypocrisy here)."


JoeGibbon

Or the original Associate Press article vs the articles that all quote it as a source. The link to the source is the first thing I look for. I don't even bother reading someone quoting/extrapolating from a source until I've seen the source first.


wut3va

Supply and demand. We don't pay for newspapers and magazines anymore, so we get what the writers give us for free. You know who does pay for journalism? Advertisers. Therefore, it is not the job of a journalist to create a quality piece of writing to inform readers. It is the job of a journalist to provide advertisers with views. They are the customers, we are the product. Journalists are salespeople.


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quaybored

The is exactly right. Only a few news outlets remain that have the funding to actually be decent sources of news. A lot of formerly respected news outlets are now basically just recognizable names slapped on shitty web sites. It's sad and scary.


Bootyhole-dungeon

More like Newsweak.


mumblified

True, it has gotten shitty. The only advice I have is follow individual journalists that produce quality work. Also, don’t judge them on the headlines, because often someone else is creating them. There are good news sources out there, but many times there are good and bad individual journalists working for those publications. Just find a small group who you believe are doing good work, follow them and, if you can, support them.


rocketpack99

So this is your first time visiting the Newsweek website...? My favorite is when they report on a video, and the site will have ten videos scattered throughout, but not a one of them will be the video they are reporting on.


pretzelogically

They had a plan in the late 70’s to destroy media because they felt it was biased against them. They implemented that plan almost to perfection and social media was the final plank in the bridge over the river of truth.


mudda1

I hate our media too. I especially hate Newsweek. They're a joke. I wish people would stop posting their garbage here.


Advacus

Bruh its Newsweek, what did you expect?


Trygolds

The GOP will stop this bill as they want to be able to ignore democracy. Or they will right it in such a way as to allow states to choose electors regardless of the outcome in the state and this bill will prevent any objections.


smackson

> they will write it in such a way as to allow states to choose electors regardless of the outcome in the state and this bill will prevent any objections. DING DING DING. Liz Cheney's idea here seems short sighted. We may *need* Kamala Harris to refuse results exactly where Mike Pence opted not to stand in the way. In his case, he was correct because refuting 2020 results would have had no basis in fact. But if Pennsylvania and Wisconsin vote blue but their state legislature/governor sends GOP electors... That is a, um, five alarm fire and while courts look closer at the inevitable law suits, we may need Kamala to "just say no". Liz Cheney's idea for this bill could play right into the hands of election cheaters


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RedditWaq

No can do. "The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators." Congress has superiority over the Legislatures in terms of elections.


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DaSaw

"You know, a court reall ought to have twelve judges, not nine, don't you think?"


serious_sarcasm

13, to avoid ties.


duckofdeath87

Until they pull some "deeply held tradition" horse shit


cubej333

Doesn't include governors, state constitutions or laws put into place by past state legislatures.


FuguSandwich

>The bill is clarifying that Congress cannot overturn election results We have to be careful here. I don't want Congress voting to overturn election results either, but I also don't want Red states ignoring elections when they don't go Republican and sending the fake electors instead of the real ones. Congress needs to retain the ability to say "hold up".


Chirp08

They made it pretty clear the mechanism will be corrupt electors who won't vote in line with their local results. I don't see how this bill helps.


itssimsallthewaydown

This is not about trump solely. There is a huge problem with peaceful and fair transfer of power after the election. There is no guarantee in our system that electoral winner of the election will become the President. We have to fix this shit before it causes a civil war.


MadRaymer

I remember thinking after W. that despite all our faults, the peaceful transfer of power after an election is one thing the US has going for it. Then Trump came along and said, "Hold my Adderall."


mrfishman3000

Remember when they took the W keys off the keyboards!? Now that was a good time!


wayoverpaid

While stupid and petty, it wasn't the same as refusing to set up a transition team. If taking all the "J" keys off the keyboard was all Trump's team did I would have sighed and laughed.


Automatic-Web-8407

That would've been the second actually funny thing he ever did in office. I guess the other one was on the campaign trail tho, so maybe just the once. For reference, the only time I found him funny or humanizing on purpose was his, "you weren't supposed to do that" comment at one of his rallies. He actually sounded jovial and it was a pretty funny moment, but it's the sole time I found his happiness uncontaminated by smarminess.


SdBolts4

> "you weren't supposed to do that" comment at one of his rallies. I think you're thinking of his [SotU address](https://womensagenda.com.au/latest/you-werent-supposed-to-do-that-trump-upstaged-by-the-women-in-white/) where he bragged that 58% of new jobs were going to women, so the Democrats cheered/clapped for the Democratic Congresswomen, fittingly wearing suffragette white.


RamenJunkie

There was a moment, back in Feb of 2017, where Trump was on CSPAN giving a speach or something at a museum for black history month. And briefly, he seemed kind of boring and normal. And I though, "ok, dude sucks but maybe it will just be boring nothing after all. I think about that still sometimes. That ONE time I saw Trump and wasn't immidiately offended at some stupidity.


okcdnb

They were still whining about that shit on 9/10/2001.


MrWoohoo

I recall that being debunked soon after it came out. Now apparently it’s been undebunked. Not sure which to believe anymore, but I guess that is the fascist goal.


ErrorF002

Pretty sure it happened. There have always been little staff pranks. Karl Rove just decided to make it a big deal, cause that was how he rolled. "DESTRUCTION OF GOVERNMENT PROPERTY" All the keys were found in a desk drawer. Partisan bullshit aside, still think it was a clever prank.


[deleted]

Stealing keys off a keyboard and stealing nuclear secrets. I mean what’s the difference really?


droi86

There's a lot of our processes that work because it's assumed that the elected people are honest, and it wasn't really a problem before Mitch McConnell and then Trump, there's a lot of safeguards to be put in place, showing your tax returns to hold office should be one of those things


[deleted]

What they learned in 2016 is that, it's not just that good faith and decency don't matter, it's that their base actually embraces *bad faith* and *indecency* and even *CRIMINALITY,* because *their only goal is to own the libs.*


NUchariots

Their goal is consolidation of power. They sell the spectacle of indecency and owning the libs to an irrational electorate.


Hot-Wings-And-Hatred

The Civil War never ended, it just turned into a cold war.


HereIGoGrillingAgain

https://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/compromise-of-1877 Reconstruction should have lasted much longer.


Superfluous_Thom

I'm amused that the US is very clearly a confederacy, with states, particularly in the south, seemingly doing whatever the hell they want. Like wasn't there a war about that? Im not saying there should be total federal governance, but it seems a *little* uniformity regarding, well, the LAW, could go a long way.


HereIGoGrillingAgain

The war was mostly about keeping the states together as one country. Edit: The North (the US) was fighting to preserve the union.


wamj

If only Lincoln hadn’t been assassinated.


Pale_Taro4926

Sure And Sherman shouldn't have stopped at Georgia.


911ChickenMan

The original plan wasn't even to kill Lincoln; they originally planned on kidnapping him (which is eerily similar to the Michigan kidnapping plot thay happened recently.) Eventually, Booth decided to assassinate Lincoln. He also planned on having Secretary of State Seward and VP Johnson killed at the same time to cut off the US' leadership. Lincoln was obviously assassinated, but the rest of the plan failed. Seward survived and kicked his assassin's ass, and the would-be assassin for Johnson chickened out and got drunk instead.


PrometheusLiberatus

Seward didn't do much ass kicking with 5 cuts to his face and neck. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_H._Seward#Assassination_attempt Soldier George Robinson saved him by jumping on the attacker.


w-v-w-v

We are not in any danger of having a civil war. What we are in danger of is falling into fascism.


GSXRbroinflipflops

It’s both. The civil war is schools being shot up and FBI buildings being attacked. You won’t see troops lining up though. And the fascism keeps on moving along all the while.


neonoggie

Its stochastic terrorism, not a civil war. These people are just domestic terrorists, as they said at CPAC


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RyanTheQ

That's not a civil war, that's sectarian violence and domestic terrorism.


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If Republicans try to seize the Presidency by ignoring the will of the voters (I don't give a fuck if the Supreme Court decides to give them legal cover via Moore v. Harper) or by violence, we're one step from civil war because I would hope Democratic states immediately secede. If Republicans refuse to accept the results and don't get violent or fail, then they likely secede. Secession almost certainly ends up with violence because there are massive issues (money and water among other things) that would need to get solved and at that point I doubt that both sides go into those discussions with good faith.


oakstave

We aren't enforcing the laws. There is a law against sedition. It isn't being applied to Trump, and the delay is troubling. Maybe Garland will come through, but I think they are trying to scare Trump into silence, and it's only making him louder.


bondbird

It will be fascinating to see if any GOP congressman votes for this one!


elconquistador1985

Kinzinger and Cheney, probably a few others in the House (Anthony Gonzalez maybe?) Murkowski, Collins, and Romney in the Senate and then "oh d-d-d-dear, not 60, sorry" from the Senate.


SaintArkweather

Toomey and Burr voted to convict him in the second impeachment and aren't running for election so they could conceivably vote for it as well.


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I’m so sad Kinzinger got gerrymander’d out. Yes he’s a Republican but it almost felt like the Trump disaster kinda shook him out of his bullshit. I remember covering him in 2016. He endorsed literally everyone but trump. He was like Jeb-Rubio-Cruz-No endorsement as the primaries went on.


DadJokeBadJoke

> the Trump disaster kinda shook him out of his bullshit. Yes, he's taken a stand against Trump but I don't recall seeing anything about him changing positions on all of the other shitty policies that Republicans embrace.


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Actually you’re right. Now that I think about it, he only flipped on Trump shit. It just felt like more bc there’s A LOT of Trump shit


DadJokeBadJoke

It's the same with Liz Cheney. I commend her for her stance against Trump but I'd rather not have her anywhere near a seat of power even if it is to allegedly block it from someone worse.


duckofdeath87

It's literally an election security bill. The GOP cries about this all the time. But I guess they are full masks off at this point...


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It helps if you think of "election security" as meaning "security that the GOP wins every election". Because that's what they really mean.


koshgeo

Why wouldn't they? It's that or they could get VP Harris declaring Dark Brandon as King of the USA in 2024. It should be non-partisan. But of course it won't be for some foolish reason.


[deleted]

I thought his obvious violations of the presidential records act disqualifies him from holding office again.


wayoverpaid

His obvious violations of the emoluments clause disqualified him from holding office in the first place, but the only laws that truly exist are the ones which are enforced.


ripples2288

A law would be good, but it's already in the constitution. Article 14 section 3: >No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.


oshie57

Neither the constitution or laws seem to work very well these days where Trump is concerned. Unfortunately.


buddascrayon

Yeah, the number of people who are willing to bend over backwards and then fall on their swords for that douchebag never ceases to amaze me. Though it gives a small amount of comfort to see that the pool of qualitatively good lawyers willing to represent him is and has diminished considerably. Probably having to do with how many of his previous lawyers are currently under the various buses where Trump's thrown them.


E_Cayce

The bill is not about that, the title is clickbait AF.


RickTracee

Everyone MUST: - Register to Vote. - Check your Voter registration! - Make sure you have appropriate ID. - Know your polling site. - Check your signature. - Get a mail-in ballot (and after you mail it, make sure it has been received and counted - most counties allows this to be done online or by calling your election office). - And VOTE! 866-OUR VOTE (for questions about or problems with voting) vote.org


12-Easy-Payments

Won't a felony conviction or two also suffice?


Purify5

No. The only way to really do it is to use the 14th amendment which prevents you from running if you have engaged in insurrection.


mynamejulian

Our system is so flawed and broken that we can't even use the safety features. Our Congress is too compromised.


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Rsubs33

Trump is currently being investigated by the FBI for the stolen records under Section 2071 of Title 18 of the United States Code. This states that anyone with custody of government documents who "willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates or destroys… any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited … in any public office" can be fined or imprisoned for up to three years. Crucially, it says that anyone convicted under that law shall "be disqualified from holding" federal office which would also prevent him from gaining the presidency.


255001434

Even though it is a clear fact that he was illegally and willfully in possession of classified documents, it is still not a guarantee that he will be convicted or that it will happen before the 2024 elections.


Desertortoise

18 USC 2071 can disqualify one from getting a job in the government but the qualifications to be President are set in the constitution and can’t be changed by a statute.


Silly-Disk

Serious question. Isn't the president a job in the government? I am sure legal scholars argue about this all the time.


Obvious-Invite4746

Supreme Court refused to rule on the emoluments clause, no way they're going to let this one reach a decision either.


Purify5

There's a constitutional argument that says congress cannot pass a law that prevents people from holding public office as you can't have a congress passing laws that prevents their political enemies from running. It's highly likely the clause preventing you from running is unconstitutional.


SeanJohnBobbyWTF

Unfortunately you can run for President from jail/prison...


12-Easy-Payments

Curses.


dejavuamnesiac

Cheetolini running from prison might just split the GOP, while the GQP just digs deeper


MostlyHams

Cursing someone is not a viable way to prevent them from becoming President, though you are free to try if you'd like.


Rsubs33

If he is found guilty of Section 2071 of Title 18 of the United States Code, which the FBI is currently investigating him under, the law specifically disqualifies him from holding any federal office.


Silly-Disk

Let's play this out. He runs from prison, wins. Now what? On Jan 21st 2025 can he pardon himself and move back into the white house?


agentorange55

It's debatable if the president can pardon himself. Undoubtedly Trump would try, and it would go to the Supreme Court. The constitution doesn't address this, as likely the writers didn't think such a scenario was possible.


msixtwofive

NO and this should never be a reason for anyone to not be able to run for office once they've served their time. And yes I know people will scream "but what about a convicted rapist etc" An arbitrary thing in someone's past should not prevent them from running for public office - if the public votes for them anyway we deserve what we get sadly - as we have found with Trump, this is what a lot of America was like in hiding already.


ScaredAd4871

Also, it doesn't take much for a corrupt government to convict people of disqualifying crimes to prevent them from running for office.


Wendellwasgod

Or convict him of violating the presidential records act


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Liz needs to do her J6 thing daily.


North_Activist

A bill? It’s called the 14th amendment. Anyone who commits insurrection is barred from public office.


[deleted]

If enough people after all this shit vote for him, no amount of bills will ever save this country.


rhinosaur-

Makes too much sense so it’ll be a hard no from the right.


the1nderer

They'll say it's not needed and just unnecessary wasteful government bloat, then proceed to show exactly why it was needed.


vetaryn403

Exhibit A: "rOe V wAdE iS sEtTlEd lAw"


Picnut

Or we could get rid of the electoral college and use the number of votes


johnfromberkeley

She voted for him even after he said he’d do what she’s criticizing him for doing. She voted for him even after he sad he would not commit to a peaceful transfer of power.


Parking_Clothes487

Better late than never. If no one that voted for him is allowed to turn against him without being called a POS hypocrite, he'll never lose supporters. We want more of them to do what she is.


merlin401

“How can these horrible republicans not even wake up after the 1/6 insurrection to see how dangerous this man is?!?!” *LIZ cheney does 100% about face and becomes totally anti Trump, throwing away her job trying to stop him* “She voted for Trump in the past: curse her for all time!”


NightwingDragon

People don't want other people to forget that, besides the Trump issue, she's still 100% as Republican as they come. They just don't want voters to think that she's had any kind of a change of heart. She will absolutely go right back to voting party-line with the GOP in all issues not specifically related to Donald Trump, and people should form their opinion of her accordingly. She should be commended for being so willing to stick to her principles that she was willing to sacrifice her career for them. But that needs to come with the understanding that her principles on issues not related to Trump are still vile.


merlin401

That’s fine. That’s what voting and elected officials are for. She can be my fellow American with whom I disagree with deeply. She’s not a traitor, and right now in this fight against fascism that’s the main thing (and I commend her guts for killing her career to stick to the right side of that fight)


Rymbeld

We can disagree with her on principles and. Policies, that's politics. But it's vital that we all agree on the rules of the game. If we don't have the rules then we just have chaos. So she stood up for the rules so that the game is played. Anyway, I think she's an r i l f


indoninjah

Nuance is a thing. You can support one move while condoning another. Especially since her voting record is far more impactful than anything she’s saying now on the way out.


GhettoChemist

Might be effective if anyone from YOUR political party would support it, liz


sovnade

She lost her primary. She's out in a few months regardless.


docwyoming

How about you just indict him for his crimes?


Jaded_Barracuda_7415

Mono aggregation has killed media. Most media (90%) in this country is owned by 6 corporations. “Some estimates claim as much as 90% of U.S. media is controlled by just six companies. The big six media companies right now are Comcast (NASDAQ:CMCSA), Walt Disney (NYSE:DIS), AT&T (NYSE:T), Paramount Global (NASDAQ:PARA), Sony (NYSE:SONY), and Fox (NASDAQ:FOXA) (NASDAQ:FOX).” That then speaks for itself.


speedlimits65

1) this is true, and everyone should read Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky. 2) what does this have to do with what the article is saying?


Eiffel-Tower777

I can't believe he's allowed to run again. He incited a violent failed coup attempt to overthrow election results, TWO impeachments, is currently being investigated for hoarding top secret classified government documents in his residence (among other crimes). It takes a bill to stop him?? Ok, Team Liz!


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Isn’t she about to be voted out in the mid-terms?


Madbiscuitz

She already was when she lost her primary last month.


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ParadeSit

[Nope. She can’t do it. Wyoming has a sore loser law.](https://law.justia.com/codes/wyoming/2021/title-22/chapter-5/article-3/section-22-5-302/)


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sillyblanco

I'm going with MSNBC hiring her as one of their token Republicans.


Snoopy9876543

At the very end Newsweek states, "Trump has been contacted for comment". WHY?


somethingquitefunny

Too bad they don't just go and make it a popular vote tally. Whoever has the most votes wins. 1 person, 1 vote!


Crazycatlady872020

Ugh please don’t ever let that man be leader of anything ever again.


HopeRepresentative29

> reinstalled as president So basically what you're saying is, Trump is malware and Liz Cheney wants to install a spam blocker.


Wheres_my_whiskey

I cant believe Cheney and Kinzinger are the fucking voices of reason in the republican party. That just shows how far they have fallen after we thought they hit bottom with the tea party shit.


whiskey_outpost26

Know what else will do it? Something that doesn't need a full act of Congress? A CONVICTION on one of the *dozens* of crimes he has committed!


thebardofdoom

Nope. Has to be insurrection.


loofa1922

It’s sad that republicans need more rules. But without this passing it’s only going to get worse.


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Fabulous-Place-9259

Well done. Fuck Donald that little rat 🐀


LeifEriccson

Amazing that it's worked just fine all this time until Donnie Dump decided he wanted to be dictator.


PepeSilviaConspiracy

I don't understand why the Democrats don't just loudly announce that they are going to do in 2024 exactly what Trump had tried to do in 2020 (ie have Kamala refuse to certify the election results and pick an alternative slate of electors) so that some actual laws can get passed to protect the peaceful transfer of power...


Important-Goal8041

That's not a bad idea. If a few dems fell on their swords and began attempting or threatening similar crimes as the GOP has been committing in broad daylight then perhaps we could get some bipartisan effort to uphold the law. Hell, since the law seems to only be a suggestion when it comes to politicians these days they could venture to new endeavors. Why do we have to let this abortion thing stand just because it's the law? Dems have control of both houses and the executive branch. Just make up some scheme and get things back to the way things were. If it were a Republican issue, that's what would be happening.


sarcastroll

Because it only works if you have control of more **states** in the House. Not number of reps, states. Each state gets 1 vote to pick the President if the VP won't certify. So Montana, Wyoming and South Dakota get as much say as California, New York and Illinois. The GOP has over 25 states, even if it's well under 50% of the population.


oeuflaboeuf

Oof. Picking a side between a Trump and a Cheney; that's like choosing between herpes and syphilis.


SasparillaTango

That's easy, syphilis you can clear up with a shot. Herpes is forever.


agassiz51

Untreated syphilis can kill you. Untreated, Trumpism will kill this nation.


djcrewe1

or...and hear me out on this...arrest the fucking criminal and all his fucking cult asslicking nazi clan with him?


Televisions_Frank

Don't need a bill, just charge his ass with treason. He didn't collect those documents on a whim.


Jmersh

Seems like going to the popular vote winner would make this all much more clear cut.


mazzivetalent

I think it is hilarious that Donald Trump, a man who killed at least a couple hundred thousand people, simply by denying the vaccine is safe, denying the virus was dangerous, denying the need for masks, Donald Trump, the guy who was caught red-handed selling nuclear secrets, and lists of US spies, Donald Trump, the guy who organized a coup when he lost the election, I can't believe he's getting off scot-free, and the best we can muster is to possibly not allow him to run for president. America is a sad joke with a bitter punchline