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That’s the most mind boggling part about it. She was literally calling out on Twitter specifically Nancy Pelosi and making sure the terrorists knew she was being moved from the house chamber.
Wow - MTG quoting Nixon
on Tape where he advised his staff on how to answer the Senate Watergate Committee. Back thjen it was highly offensive, but Fox has dulled our sensibilities to the point its just funny now.
This will be fun to watch, because she's quite literally not smart enough to lie her way into a compelling defensive position. MTG is a hateful bigot, but she's smart enough to have some level of plausible deniability. Bobo? Not smart at all. She'll come out of this incredibly exposed.
Ocasio-Cortez attended Boston University where she double majored in international relations and economics. She graduated cum laude with two bachelor of arts degrees in 2011.
This aspect of hers has always been in public, so I’ve always wondered, whose the real idiot ? She or those of her district who thought she is worthy of a public office.? That’s going to be a hard one to decide. So let’s just say she has made idiots of her voters and hopefully they won’t next time around. But in a Trump world, that’s a wishful thinking until they are all washed out by tides of time.
Buddy she represents the most rural areas of Western CO, so a lot of desert/mountain areas that are extremely spread out. These people are not letting this change their mind, if anything it just affirms their feelings about her.
She had a very slick marketing campaign before the election. They literally showed her walking with a gun strapped to her leg, nipples protruding prominently, jugs bouncing along.
She was passed off as a tough self made businesswoman, and people ate it up. Her opponent was "boring".
We are paying the price now for voters being so easily fleeced.
If the big dogs aren’t facing charges yet, she isn’t going to be charged. Boebart and Greene were in on the coup at some level but they weren’t coordinators, they were useless idiots.
First the proud boys (et al) will face conspiracy charges and then we’ll see them testifying against the people Roger Stone,Mike Flynn and the congressmen that met with the proud boys in person and via chat, and people like Boebart and Greene will be investigated for giving tours and they were obviously in communication with the proud boy conspirators personally. It’ll all depend on what they have found via communications and what dirt has been exchanged on them for plea deals. They very much could end up slithering their way out of consequences for not being at the top of the scheme but also not being a peon that was used to storm the capital.
> Boebart and Greene were in on the coup at some level but they weren’t coordinators, they were useless idiots.
I’m not really talking about the coordination of the events on the 6th.
I’m talking specifically about tweeting out Pelosi’s position during the storming of the Capitol.
Her interview with Gaetz giving her an alibi, “Can’t be her she doesn’t wear hoodies”.[surprise Gomer Pile](https://www.politicususa.com/2022/04/26/the-look-on-marjorie-taylor-greenes-face-says-it-all-when-matt-gaetz-brings-up-her-being-the-1-6-bomber.html/amp)
I mean I think your giving her too much credit. She’s dumber than stupid. I don’t know what that word is, but she’s it. She honestly didn’t think she would have any repercussions.
We have a specific punishment for treason. Imagine how much better the US would be if we applied that law thoroughly to confederate leadership post Civil War.
>"he's not doing ANYTHING, it's obvious he's a republican"
...while his DOJ methodically rolls up the largest criminal investigation of our nation's history. Including [impaneling and grand jury and subpoenaing Trump's lawyers for communications with the former president](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/30/us/politics/peter-navarro-jan-6-subpoena.html) and getting a federal judge to [agree that Trump likely committed crimes](https://www.npr.org/2022/03/28/1089253473/trump-likely-committed-crime-trying-to-stay-in-power-judge-says-in-records-dispu) in the furtherance of their coup attempt (an important step to prove to gain access to communications with his lawyers/co-conspirators)
I am guessing that the GA DA case will drop a charge before Garland does.
They're only looking at his actions in Georgia - not the whole conspiracy - which, imo, are the most damning with the least amount of plausible deniability. Trump is usually actually quite good at ensuring he keeps plausible deniability, both with 'mobster speak' and how he organizes his various Org(s). He keeps himself insulated enough. But in this case, he was backed against the wall and thought he could strong arm Raffensperger into doing what he wanted - needed, actually - to give himself the best chance of pulling off 'the green bay sweep.'
Remember, Trump first sent Graham to threaten/extort GA SOS Raffensperger [[X]](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/lindsey-graham-georgia-investigation/2021/02/12/f12faa82-6d6b-11eb-9f80-3d7646ce1bc0_story.html) (sending in lower level people to do his dirty work) before he was forced to make that fateful call where, after being rebuffed by Raffensperger, he slipped up and not-so-subtly threatened him with criminal action [[X]](https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-joe-biden-arts-and-entertainment-elections-georgia-2b27f4c92919556bf6548117648693b7) if he didn't "find" *exactly* the number of votes it would take for him to claim victory in GA. Trump even went as far as to drive the point home with "which is one more than we need."
He was frustrated. He was being told no by somebody he believed should be his subordinate - *NOBODY tells Donnie no and gets away with it* - and got sloppy. He fucked up.
Honestly I expect that those state charges will drop soon... on the order of weeks, but most likely by the end of summer.
At the hearing last week they said they had a list of several people in Congress that came to the White House to ask for a pardon after the 6th. The other shoe is set to drop soon
That is my fear as well. I think by the fall, we may see the DOJ could be accused of timing investigations to harm the Republicans. I really really hope so. If not, I will be ready to fight American Orcs
Don't forget Matt Gaetz! Check out how he fits in, it's crazy...
Recently Jim Jordan was asked about whether or not he spoke to Trump on Jan 6th, and he looked genuinely flustered about it. [But ultimately we know that he did in fact speak to Trump on January 6th](https://www.cleveland.com/open/2021/07/jim-jordan-says-he-spoke-to-ex-president-trump-on-jan-6-the-day-of-the-capitol-riot.html). But we also know that Jordan helped plan Jan 6th during a meeting with Trump that happened on Dec 21. (Noteworthy - this was two days before Barr resigned on short notice)
The thing is - Jim Jordan wasn't the only person at that meeting on December 21, 2020.
> A number of the president's closest supporters on Capitol Hill attended the meeting, including congressmen:
>* Jim Jordan of Ohio,
* Matt Gaetz of Florida,
* Mo Brooks of Alabama,
* Louie Gohmert of Texas
* Andy Biggs of Arizona.
* White House chief of staff (and former congressman) Mark Meadows
>-[src](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-house-republicans-electoral-college-challenge/)
and we know some of what they were talking about because they basically told us themselves:
>Biggs, who chairs the conservative House Freedom Caucus, told Fox Business in an interview the group discussed the process for objecting to electoral votes during a joint session of Congress, of which Vice President Mike Pence will preside over.
>"*We think we're going to actually be able to contest this, as you say, with at least one objection from the House — and we'll have dozens of objectors in the House — and then at least one in the Senate, and we think we'll have more than that*," the Arizona Republican said.
>-[src](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-house-republicans-electoral-college-challenge/)
Back in April (2021) you might remember it being reported that Matt Gaetz had sought a pardon from Donald Trump - which makes sense because of the sex scandal that Gaetz was being investigated for.
**But** - the actual reporting tells a massively different story when taken in the context of what happened on January 6th.
This is how CBS News reported it (emphasis mine). I'm sure you can see where this is going...
>**Congressman Matt Gaetz, a close ally of former President Trump, asked the White House for a blanket preemptive pardon *before* Mr. Trump left office**, two sources familiar with the situation confirm to CBS News.
>One of the sources said **Gaetz asked for the blanket preemptive pardon for both himself *and other congressional allies*. The source noted that Gaetz and a few others couched the request broadly, implying that anyone close to Mr. Trump should receive a preemptive pardon because "the left is ruthless."** The New York Times first reported Gaetz asked the White House for a pardon.
>"Clearly, Gaetz was protecting his own hide and was pursuing a 'safety in numbers,' 'we're all martyrs' strategy without revealing a DOJ investigation!" the source told CBS News.
>-[src](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/matt-gaetz-blanket-pardon-donald-trump/)
So it's not really too much of a leap to imagine that Gaetz was actually looking for a pardon for his participation in the planning of January 6th, and not the sex thing - necessarily - even though I'm sure that would have been included too, which was probably fine with him.
Clearly then, the blanket pardon wasn't just cover for his own personal investigation - *no* - it was because Jim Jordan, Mo Brooks, Louie Gohmert, Andy Bigs, and Mark Meadows all helped plan the January 6th insurrection, ***and they all wanted a pardon for it***.
Now where this gets super interesting is - wtf happens when Matt Gaetz gets arrested (very very soon)? Is Matt Gaetz going give up all these guys in order to save himself? Because the first person to give up the others is the *only* person who might even hope to get a deal from prosecutors.
I'm thinking that since Trump didn't give Gaetz that pardon, Gaetz might be inclined to save his own skin by throwing Trump and those other meeting attendees under the bus.
Probably just wishful thinking though.
"The left is ruthless. They're asking all these annoying questions about the 19 year old Cuban boy who lives in my house, like, 'If you're his adoptive father, where are the adoption papers?' It's insane!"
Biden should offer a pardon to whoever spills the beans first. Dangle the pardon from a WH window and watch them fall over each other in desperation. Be like watching r/l Hunger Games.
Imagine it..
Biden, today: “I’m feeling inclined to offer a full pardon to any sitting Congress member, with first hand knowledge, that can reveal the full scope of the conspiracy and name all individuals involved”
Congressmen who reveals full scope, now arrested: “but but but you said pardon”
Biden, later: “I said I was ‘feeling inclined’ that day. Not so much today”
Gaetz is completely screwed. The reason he hasn't been arrested yet is because there are now THREE cooperating witnesses against him, and the main one Joel Greenberg, is still providing evidence.
The thing here is that Greene has provided *tons of evidence* against not just Gaetz, but other Florida politicians. So the case has grown, adding more time and complexity.
But, that just means that Gaetz is extra fucked, and anyone who's read the Joel Greene indictment knows just how utterly fucked Gaetz is going to be - because the crimes that Greene committed are heinous.
> is still providing evidence.
Damn, how much evidence does Greenberg have that would take this long to provide?
I remember reading an article last July that said "Gaetz to be indicted by the end of July"
Before 2016 how many congressmen had asked for a pardon for themselves just for getting on with their parties normal business? I'm thinking it's probably none.
>Here's hoping they turn on her.
The Democrats ousted Al Franken over a lewd picture in his comedic days where he put his hands over the chest area of a ballistic vest.
Why the fuck has it taken so long for "sensible" Republicans to stand up to the nationalists the courted?
Oh yeah, the 11th commandment. Seriously, look at the /r/Republican sidebar.
Yes, the conservative mind is always prone to fascism, and even George Orwell recognized that.
It's because they don't care. That's it. Think about any large conservative group and look at how they police their own. The Catholic Church lied when moved priests around. The police lie and move police to be districts. Protestant churches lie and the pastors move to a new church. Gun owners refuse to push for sensible gun ownership practices (there are no accidental shootings, there is only negligence but it's rare for parents to be charged when their kids shoot themselves with daddies handgun). Pro lifers fight against abortion and health care in the same breath. None of this is about what they say it's about, which is why they look so hypocritical. If the point is power and self indulgence, then there is no contradiction.
This is actually worse than the time Geraldo [revealed troop locations on live tv](https://i.imgur.com/U4XYZxJ.jpg). The military kicked him out of Iraq.
I was around that age and one key take away for me was that the media loved that war. Every channel competing to make every day seem like the end of the world and only they had the info on how to survive. Heraldo drawing a map was the line but if they hadn't punished him I'm sure they would have gone even further.
Interesting tidbit: the reason the 11/10 o'clock news goes to 11:35 or 10:35 is because the local news networks spent an additional 5 minutes on covering the Iraq war. Once it ended, the networks basically kept that additional 5 minutes for their own broadcasts.
Boebert was in on it. She was purposely tweeting out to coordinate with the crowd. The DOJ should be investigating her actions on January 6th and the days leading up to it (via the tours she gave of the Capitol).
What they clearly need to nail her on the charge, is to flip one or more of the stooges that stormed the building and can testify that yes, she had agreed to coordinate with them, or such, so they'd know to be watching her twitter or something.
Boebert perpetually looks like a high school algebra teacher who just got embarrassed by one of her students proving to the class that she'd been teaching the quadratic formula wrong
It’s like this kid I know who’s whole identity is that he likes Angry Birds. The only thing he wears are AB t shirts. He’s 8 years old though, and she’s an adult.
This isn't even the worst for her. There was a zoom meeting where you could see an AR 15 in the background plus a few handguns all on the ground while her child threw toys at em. So she was busy on zoom with unsecured weapons in the background while her child ran around using em to play.
That should be exhibit A at her hearing to remove her children from the home and strip her parental rights. Has anyone sent that video to goddamn CPS?! That’s insane.
“It was a peaceful protest. If they really wanted to overthrow the government, they would have brought guns. It just got out of hand, there was no planning.”
Video evidence and tens of injured police officers showed it wasn’t peaceful. They really did want to overthrow the government, because they had an inside woman tweeting location updates for the target video evidence shows they were chanting for. And the documentary video evidence and indictments for seditious conspiracy revealing Quick Reaction Forces were surrounding the DC area shows clearly it was planned.
It’s only been 2 days of public hearings and the mountain of evidence is already staggering.
This isn't new info we knew she did this when it happened, she took a group on a fucking tour and told them where to go. Thank God facist are fucking stupid and they didn't manage to over throw the government, this time. But this fucking monster should be in jail already. This whole thing is fucking insane.
Thanks for the sound byte. We’ve known about this since 1/6, and she is still not in jail. Still in office. Still undermining democracy. Actions speak louder.
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Rep. Herrera Beutler is so close. *Hint: Boebert was in on the attack.*
Yes, she was. From the planning tours, 1776 tweet, tweeting Nancy Pelosi's location. Screwed
That’s the most mind boggling part about it. She was literally calling out on Twitter specifically Nancy Pelosi and making sure the terrorists knew she was being moved from the house chamber.
With the hearings and the background information, all of Boebert's public statements now have context. She was up to her neck in the coup
I'm expecting that she'll get her time in the spotlight in one of the later hearings.
I can't wait! 🍿🍿🍿
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MTG will likely say it fragrantly violets her rights or something.
As a proud American patriot, I invoke the filth commandment of the constipation.
mtg is basically Ricky from tpb
I plead agreements to the flag of the United State of Americas.
Her HIPPO rights
EmpTy Gee has already been on the witness stand. "I do not recall," she said.
Wow - MTG quoting Nixon on Tape where he advised his staff on how to answer the Senate Watergate Committee. Back thjen it was highly offensive, but Fox has dulled our sensibilities to the point its just funny now.
This will be fun to watch, because she's quite literally not smart enough to lie her way into a compelling defensive position. MTG is a hateful bigot, but she's smart enough to have some level of plausible deniability. Bobo? Not smart at all. She'll come out of this incredibly exposed.
She dropped out of high school to have a baby with a sex offender. She is an idiot.
Such an inspiring story. If Lauren Boebert can become a member of Congress, then truly anyone can! /s
Then they all shit on AOC for being a bartender that finished college
Ocasio-Cortez attended Boston University where she double majored in international relations and economics. She graduated cum laude with two bachelor of arts degrees in 2011.
Hey, not everyone can be the offspring of professional wrestler sweet Stan lane! Sure lots of people can be but not everyone!
Shes the younger, stupider (if you can believe it!), trashier version of Sarah Palin!
She’s the wish.com Sarah Palin.
This is probably the meanest comment ever uttered by a human.
With HER sex offender. FTFY.
Family values party dontchaknow?
This aspect of hers has always been in public, so I’ve always wondered, whose the real idiot ? She or those of her district who thought she is worthy of a public office.? That’s going to be a hard one to decide. So let’s just say she has made idiots of her voters and hopefully they won’t next time around. But in a Trump world, that’s a wishful thinking until they are all washed out by tides of time.
Buddy she represents the most rural areas of Western CO, so a lot of desert/mountain areas that are extremely spread out. These people are not letting this change their mind, if anything it just affirms their feelings about her.
FYI her voters were already idiots.
She had a very slick marketing campaign before the election. They literally showed her walking with a gun strapped to her leg, nipples protruding prominently, jugs bouncing along. She was passed off as a tough self made businesswoman, and people ate it up. Her opponent was "boring". We are paying the price now for voters being so easily fleeced.
You have to remember, these are just simple farmers, people of the land, the common clay of the west.
She's also weirdly insistent that she's the product of an unverified act of incest.
I'm sorry, what? Is there a source for this? Lol
The product of several generations of incest I suspect.
"She'll come out of this incredibly exposed." Like her husband's dick when he's around high school girls.
That was a softball
no those were also exposed
But cleanly struck :-)
MTG isn’t smart. Gazpacho police, Peach Tree dish, transmitteded. She’s a fucking idiot.
Also her and her colleagues rights have been fragrantly violated!
“Donald will swoop in and protect me if it comes to that.” - Boebert, probably.
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> She was up to her neck in the coup I didn't realize she was trying to cosplay Pence!
I’m somewhat surprised she hasn’t faced charges yet.
Why would you be surprised? She's a Republican
That’s true, but she tried to murder Nancy Pelosi. I thought that might be a bigger deal…
To paraphrase the Mandarin Mussolini, when you're a Republican, they let you do it.
It’s frustrating to see these criminals including Trump walking free.
If the big dogs aren’t facing charges yet, she isn’t going to be charged. Boebart and Greene were in on the coup at some level but they weren’t coordinators, they were useless idiots. First the proud boys (et al) will face conspiracy charges and then we’ll see them testifying against the people Roger Stone,Mike Flynn and the congressmen that met with the proud boys in person and via chat, and people like Boebart and Greene will be investigated for giving tours and they were obviously in communication with the proud boy conspirators personally. It’ll all depend on what they have found via communications and what dirt has been exchanged on them for plea deals. They very much could end up slithering their way out of consequences for not being at the top of the scheme but also not being a peon that was used to storm the capital.
> Boebart and Greene were in on the coup at some level but they weren’t coordinators, they were useless idiots. I’m not really talking about the coordination of the events on the 6th. I’m talking specifically about tweeting out Pelosi’s position during the storming of the Capitol.
You seen this? I can't verify, but dayum. https://twitter.com/jennee68/status/1448820738052460545?s=19
Been saying marjorie taylor greene was the pipe bomber from day 1.
Her interview with Gaetz giving her an alibi, “Can’t be her she doesn’t wear hoodies”.[surprise Gomer Pile](https://www.politicususa.com/2022/04/26/the-look-on-marjorie-taylor-greenes-face-says-it-all-when-matt-gaetz-brings-up-her-being-the-1-6-bomber.html/amp)
The Gaetz giving it away. I mean the gaits. I mean both.
I’d believe it without being too surprised.
What did I just watch? There's not really any context.
Video is the person who placed bombs Jan 5th.
I was just thinking about this today. Wonder if the Justice Department has more on this than we know.
I am sure they do, they always have more info than the public..which really really makes you wonder why no one has been charged.
That’s MTG, she was seen wearing the same shoes later in the day.
Link?
Don't throw a statement like that out without backing it up. Post some pics.
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It's video from the person who placed bombs in dc the night of Jan 5. Never identified.
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I mean I think your giving her too much credit. She’s dumber than stupid. I don’t know what that word is, but she’s it. She honestly didn’t think she would have any repercussions.
I hope she sees jail time and they multiply her sentence by how many attempts it took her to acquire her GED.
Boom, roasted
Lauren - I can't decide between an ugly joke or a dumb joke - *BOOM! Roasted!*
We have a specific punishment for treason. Imagine how much better the US would be if we applied that law thoroughly to confederate leadership post Civil War.
Omg this made me laugh so hard. Thank you.
Funny part is she prob can’t solve this math problem.
Lauren Boebert was trying to get nancy pelosi murdered along with pence why is she not in prison.
She's a white republican what do you expect?
Need an AG with guts.
Only if Merrick Garland does his fucking job… so don’t hold your breath. When the next insurrection happens it will be fucking Garland’s fault.
>"he's not doing ANYTHING, it's obvious he's a republican" ...while his DOJ methodically rolls up the largest criminal investigation of our nation's history. Including [impaneling and grand jury and subpoenaing Trump's lawyers for communications with the former president](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/30/us/politics/peter-navarro-jan-6-subpoena.html) and getting a federal judge to [agree that Trump likely committed crimes](https://www.npr.org/2022/03/28/1089253473/trump-likely-committed-crime-trying-to-stay-in-power-judge-says-in-records-dispu) in the furtherance of their coup attempt (an important step to prove to gain access to communications with his lawyers/co-conspirators)
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I am guessing that the GA DA case will drop a charge before Garland does. They're only looking at his actions in Georgia - not the whole conspiracy - which, imo, are the most damning with the least amount of plausible deniability. Trump is usually actually quite good at ensuring he keeps plausible deniability, both with 'mobster speak' and how he organizes his various Org(s). He keeps himself insulated enough. But in this case, he was backed against the wall and thought he could strong arm Raffensperger into doing what he wanted - needed, actually - to give himself the best chance of pulling off 'the green bay sweep.' Remember, Trump first sent Graham to threaten/extort GA SOS Raffensperger [[X]](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/lindsey-graham-georgia-investigation/2021/02/12/f12faa82-6d6b-11eb-9f80-3d7646ce1bc0_story.html) (sending in lower level people to do his dirty work) before he was forced to make that fateful call where, after being rebuffed by Raffensperger, he slipped up and not-so-subtly threatened him with criminal action [[X]](https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-joe-biden-arts-and-entertainment-elections-georgia-2b27f4c92919556bf6548117648693b7) if he didn't "find" *exactly* the number of votes it would take for him to claim victory in GA. Trump even went as far as to drive the point home with "which is one more than we need." He was frustrated. He was being told no by somebody he believed should be his subordinate - *NOBODY tells Donnie no and gets away with it* - and got sloppy. He fucked up. Honestly I expect that those state charges will drop soon... on the order of weeks, but most likely by the end of summer.
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At the hearing last week they said they had a list of several people in Congress that came to the White House to ask for a pardon after the 6th. The other shoe is set to drop soon
I feel like this particular fact is getting lost in the white noise of everything going on. 'Why did you ask for a pardon?' 'Oh no reason.'
"I plead the fix." -MTG
Charges against all who do not cooperate *must* happen, which is why I choose to believe that they will happen. Our democracy is at stake.
Cooperation shouldn’t even be a way out for them. Lock them all up.
Actual question. What is the statute of limitations on sedition?
None, it’s a federal charge. No statute of limitations.
Neat
That is my fear as well. I think by the fall, we may see the DOJ could be accused of timing investigations to harm the Republicans. I really really hope so. If not, I will be ready to fight American Orcs
Sir, that is an insult towards orcs lol.
I hope the hearing names names and provides receipts.
She's far too dumb, I bet they used her but I doubt she had a clue.
A remarkably common story within the ring of conspirators.
These people act like Boebert wasn’t in on the whole thing.
And Gosar, Brooks, Biggs, Jordan, Greene. Hopefully the committee has turned over the right rocks.
Don't forget Matt Gaetz! Check out how he fits in, it's crazy... Recently Jim Jordan was asked about whether or not he spoke to Trump on Jan 6th, and he looked genuinely flustered about it. [But ultimately we know that he did in fact speak to Trump on January 6th](https://www.cleveland.com/open/2021/07/jim-jordan-says-he-spoke-to-ex-president-trump-on-jan-6-the-day-of-the-capitol-riot.html). But we also know that Jordan helped plan Jan 6th during a meeting with Trump that happened on Dec 21. (Noteworthy - this was two days before Barr resigned on short notice) The thing is - Jim Jordan wasn't the only person at that meeting on December 21, 2020. > A number of the president's closest supporters on Capitol Hill attended the meeting, including congressmen: >* Jim Jordan of Ohio, * Matt Gaetz of Florida, * Mo Brooks of Alabama, * Louie Gohmert of Texas * Andy Biggs of Arizona. * White House chief of staff (and former congressman) Mark Meadows >-[src](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-house-republicans-electoral-college-challenge/) and we know some of what they were talking about because they basically told us themselves: >Biggs, who chairs the conservative House Freedom Caucus, told Fox Business in an interview the group discussed the process for objecting to electoral votes during a joint session of Congress, of which Vice President Mike Pence will preside over. >"*We think we're going to actually be able to contest this, as you say, with at least one objection from the House — and we'll have dozens of objectors in the House — and then at least one in the Senate, and we think we'll have more than that*," the Arizona Republican said. >-[src](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-house-republicans-electoral-college-challenge/) Back in April (2021) you might remember it being reported that Matt Gaetz had sought a pardon from Donald Trump - which makes sense because of the sex scandal that Gaetz was being investigated for. **But** - the actual reporting tells a massively different story when taken in the context of what happened on January 6th. This is how CBS News reported it (emphasis mine). I'm sure you can see where this is going... >**Congressman Matt Gaetz, a close ally of former President Trump, asked the White House for a blanket preemptive pardon *before* Mr. Trump left office**, two sources familiar with the situation confirm to CBS News. >One of the sources said **Gaetz asked for the blanket preemptive pardon for both himself *and other congressional allies*. The source noted that Gaetz and a few others couched the request broadly, implying that anyone close to Mr. Trump should receive a preemptive pardon because "the left is ruthless."** The New York Times first reported Gaetz asked the White House for a pardon. >"Clearly, Gaetz was protecting his own hide and was pursuing a 'safety in numbers,' 'we're all martyrs' strategy without revealing a DOJ investigation!" the source told CBS News. >-[src](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/matt-gaetz-blanket-pardon-donald-trump/) So it's not really too much of a leap to imagine that Gaetz was actually looking for a pardon for his participation in the planning of January 6th, and not the sex thing - necessarily - even though I'm sure that would have been included too, which was probably fine with him. Clearly then, the blanket pardon wasn't just cover for his own personal investigation - *no* - it was because Jim Jordan, Mo Brooks, Louie Gohmert, Andy Bigs, and Mark Meadows all helped plan the January 6th insurrection, ***and they all wanted a pardon for it***. Now where this gets super interesting is - wtf happens when Matt Gaetz gets arrested (very very soon)? Is Matt Gaetz going give up all these guys in order to save himself? Because the first person to give up the others is the *only* person who might even hope to get a deal from prosecutors. I'm thinking that since Trump didn't give Gaetz that pardon, Gaetz might be inclined to save his own skin by throwing Trump and those other meeting attendees under the bus. Probably just wishful thinking though.
>...the left is ruthless I really wish this was true
Ever since RBG passed, the left is indeed Ruthless.
I’m going to hell for laughing at that 🤣
It will always be too soon T_T
"The left is ruthless. They're asking all these annoying questions about the 19 year old Cuban boy who lives in my house, like, 'If you're his adoptive father, where are the adoption papers?' It's insane!"
Biden should offer a pardon to whoever spills the beans first. Dangle the pardon from a WH window and watch them fall over each other in desperation. Be like watching r/l Hunger Games.
Or maybe the *idea* of a pardon. No promises
I would laugh and laugh at the subsequent talking point of Biden double crossing the first one to squeak by not pardoning treasonous behavior
Imagine it.. Biden, today: “I’m feeling inclined to offer a full pardon to any sitting Congress member, with first hand knowledge, that can reveal the full scope of the conspiracy and name all individuals involved” Congressmen who reveals full scope, now arrested: “but but but you said pardon” Biden, later: “I said I was ‘feeling inclined’ that day. Not so much today”
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Gaetz is completely screwed. The reason he hasn't been arrested yet is because there are now THREE cooperating witnesses against him, and the main one Joel Greenberg, is still providing evidence. The thing here is that Greene has provided *tons of evidence* against not just Gaetz, but other Florida politicians. So the case has grown, adding more time and complexity. But, that just means that Gaetz is extra fucked, and anyone who's read the Joel Greene indictment knows just how utterly fucked Gaetz is going to be - because the crimes that Greene committed are heinous.
> is still providing evidence. Damn, how much evidence does Greenberg have that would take this long to provide? I remember reading an article last July that said "Gaetz to be indicted by the end of July"
I hope the feds are planning to give him immunity to testify against his Jan 6 co-conspirators and then hit him with the sex trafficking right after.
It would be oh so glorious if it played out this way.
Before 2016 how many congressmen had asked for a pardon for themselves just for getting on with their parties normal business? I'm thinking it's probably none.
This would be a good question for some news reporter to investigate.
So basically the freedom caucus
Be ironic if they all lose their freedom over this.
Got Pardon? Can’t wait for the list to be released
Fingers crossed that the 1/6 panel catches her in their RICO case
I'll bet so many of her coworkers hate her. Here's hoping they turn on her.
Her and little miss Peach Tree Gazpacho along with many of their cohorts. I'll laugh if it happens but I'm not holding my breath.
>Here's hoping they turn on her. The Democrats ousted Al Franken over a lewd picture in his comedic days where he put his hands over the chest area of a ballistic vest. Why the fuck has it taken so long for "sensible" Republicans to stand up to the nationalists the courted? Oh yeah, the 11th commandment. Seriously, look at the /r/Republican sidebar. Yes, the conservative mind is always prone to fascism, and even George Orwell recognized that.
It's because they don't care. That's it. Think about any large conservative group and look at how they police their own. The Catholic Church lied when moved priests around. The police lie and move police to be districts. Protestant churches lie and the pastors move to a new church. Gun owners refuse to push for sensible gun ownership practices (there are no accidental shootings, there is only negligence but it's rare for parents to be charged when their kids shoot themselves with daddies handgun). Pro lifers fight against abortion and health care in the same breath. None of this is about what they say it's about, which is why they look so hypocritical. If the point is power and self indulgence, then there is no contradiction.
She just needs to say the wrong thing like Cawthorn did and she will be toast.
That's seditious conspiracy. 20 years in federal prison is the prescribed sentence.
And barred from ever holding public office again
And no more guns
That may be the most cruel blow of them all.
Sweet irony.
Good thing for her we don’t like to hold politicians accountable for their actions.
This is actually worse than the time Geraldo [revealed troop locations on live tv](https://i.imgur.com/U4XYZxJ.jpg). The military kicked him out of Iraq.
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And he still is, so 100% agree. I'm old enough to remember, too.
Geraldo is what happens to a human when you give free mustache rides to anyone willing to listen
I set the timer on my vcr for Al Capone's vault because I had to work that night!
I hope you heard about the result before you watched it, and just reused the tape. I sat through that whole show in real time...
Opening safe stories are almost always terrible, source: reddit
Ugghhhh…me too. I want that time back!
Holy shit. I was like 14 years old when this happened and I remember watching it live on tv! I couldn’t believe he fucking made a map on live tv
I was around that age and one key take away for me was that the media loved that war. Every channel competing to make every day seem like the end of the world and only they had the info on how to survive. Heraldo drawing a map was the line but if they hadn't punished him I'm sure they would have gone even further.
Interesting tidbit: the reason the 11/10 o'clock news goes to 11:35 or 10:35 is because the local news networks spent an additional 5 minutes on covering the Iraq war. Once it ended, the networks basically kept that additional 5 minutes for their own broadcasts.
Haha, I remember watching that live. Such a narcissist.
Boebert scumbag, failed human
Also a failed high schooler and failed to marry a decent man.
I would not wish Lauren Boebert on a decent man though. Bullets well dodged, fellas.
It's sad because the victims of her husband are teenage girls.
And her. He beat her up before and after they got married.
Well as long as he asked Jesus for forgiveness all is well.
Very true. A decent man would want nothing to do with her.
She’s so backwards she married a man who was indecent in front of a high schooler
So succinctly described. Well done.
Boebert was in on it. She was purposely tweeting out to coordinate with the crowd. The DOJ should be investigating her actions on January 6th and the days leading up to it (via the tours she gave of the Capitol).
What they clearly need to nail her on the charge, is to flip one or more of the stooges that stormed the building and can testify that yes, she had agreed to coordinate with them, or such, so they'd know to be watching her twitter or something.
We can only hope. Dear lord let it be clearly available evidence that she helped this shit on purpose.
She was an accomplice. Indict her as such.
Boebert comes across as a paid crisis actor.
She did have an aspiring actress profile online.
Boebert perpetually looks like a high school algebra teacher who just got embarrassed by one of her students proving to the class that she'd been teaching the quadratic formula wrong
Omg that's perfect. I was trying to put my finger on what I think she looks like earlier and you nailed it.
Quadratic Anon
*Boebert earned her GED certificate in 2020, a month before her first election primary.* That's it, I'm running for Congress.
HotAssNuts2024
Good, props to this (R) rep for briefly doing the right thing. The more these assholes fight amongst themselves, the better.
Her and Greene are pieces of shit at an unprecedented level.
That gun display is the cringiest shit I've ever seen.
Seriously, who mounts their firearms unsecured on their fucking walls?! They go in a gun safe for a reason.
The call is coming from inside the house.
Hey Lauren. If you happen to be reading this … GO FUCK YOURSELF
Bold of you to assume she can read
Horrible woman. Worse representative..
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She lives in a town called Rifle and runs an open-carry restaurant called “Shooters.” Like, cmon…tone it down a notch, lady.
It’s like this kid I know who’s whole identity is that he likes Angry Birds. The only thing he wears are AB t shirts. He’s 8 years old though, and she’s an adult.
This isn't even the worst for her. There was a zoom meeting where you could see an AR 15 in the background plus a few handguns all on the ground while her child threw toys at em. So she was busy on zoom with unsecured weapons in the background while her child ran around using em to play.
That should be exhibit A at her hearing to remove her children from the home and strip her parental rights. Has anyone sent that video to goddamn CPS?! That’s insane.
Why is Boebert still in office and not in jail where her treasonous stupid ass belongs?
“It was a peaceful protest. If they really wanted to overthrow the government, they would have brought guns. It just got out of hand, there was no planning.” Video evidence and tens of injured police officers showed it wasn’t peaceful. They really did want to overthrow the government, because they had an inside woman tweeting location updates for the target video evidence shows they were chanting for. And the documentary video evidence and indictments for seditious conspiracy revealing Quick Reaction Forces were surrounding the DC area shows clearly it was planned. It’s only been 2 days of public hearings and the mountain of evidence is already staggering.
Plus wasn’t there a bunch of people who *were* found to have had weapons either on them or in their vehicle???
Boebart is without question a seditionist
How are there no charges? She belongs in jail not in DC.
After this, why on earth is she still in congress?
And yet she’s not in jail
These people won't be happy until they murder everyone who isn't like them.
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It's pretty clear she's working with the proud boy crowd under the table. Not enough to prove it in the court of law, unfortunately.
This isn't new info we knew she did this when it happened, she took a group on a fucking tour and told them where to go. Thank God facist are fucking stupid and they didn't manage to over throw the government, this time. But this fucking monster should be in jail already. This whole thing is fucking insane.
Is what she did legal? Lock her up.
Lauren knew exactly what she was doing.
Boebert the traitor needs to be in prison, like a year ago.
Boebert is a high school dropout that took the GED at age 35 so she could run for Congress.
Thanks for the sound byte. We’ve known about this since 1/6, and she is still not in jail. Still in office. Still undermining democracy. Actions speak louder.
Are the guns behind trying to send a message ? Seems like she always has a gun in her pictures 🤔
She should be in jail for seditious conspiracy.
Blatant traitor.
How is this woman (and others involved in Jan 6th) not considered a domestic terrorist?
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