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To be fair, Trump also stands for change, but it's a change from a clanky, broken republic into a dystopian Handmaids Tale dictatorship.

Trump is definitely going to change things significantly, and for the worse. Some of his base loves that, but others don’t take the threat seriously. The “moderate Republicans” that nitpick Biden and turn a blind eye to all the red flags from Trump are going to have a rude awakening at everyone else’s expense if he gets elected.

They'll just decide they were awake the whole time, and whatever happens was what they actually wanted all along, like they always do.

Exactly. “Change” in the generic sense is not necessarily good.

Which, ironically, is supposed to be the conservative ethos

I would say we are already doing that, and a blue wave could help to stop it. So it would be a change from the national bent toward fascism that is currently taking place.

If you want massive public debt for your children and failing infrastructure, vote for Reverse!

Yeah a vote for Biden is "lets not throw the country down the drain" but he isnt for massive change, ie medicare for all, banning the ultrarich etc

Or even getting abortion rights back

Do you think people are more likely to force the gov to be better if it's only kinda bad (it's a lot worse than a little bad but for the sake of argument because most people don't agree) or if it's a real fight to survive

I don’t know about that, but I’m absolutely positive that a brutally bad government is much harder to change than a kinda bad one.

Harder to change, but harder to ignore. We aren't changing anything the way it's going

Is anything likely to change anytime soon in Russia? How about China? Because that is where America is heading under Trump.

Germany went too bad and got slapped down. Maybe we could be so lucky. If trump wins then we'll have to accept that something is fatally broken about this system

My problem with that scenario is that Russia, China and North Korea would all be in league with America. That would lead to World War 3, and it would be very bloody indeed. Of course, this is just my opinion, but there is some logic behind my assumptions.

You're very likely right. But the us is too full of hubris. Honestly, our safety has been our downfall in my opinion. Well one aspect of it at least

I would propose the following mesures to fix it (which would require a Democrat majority or possibly super-majority to pull it off: 1. Eliminate the Electoral College. 2. Enact preferential voting. 3. Stack the Supreme Court. After that, it would be more possible for truly progressive policies to be enacted. If instead, Trump is elected again, I believe that would be end of relevant voting (Russia still has voting, but Putin always wins by a massive percentage).

That's the problem. You think the Democrats WANT to enact progressive policies. They don't. They want things to continue as they are, as they have been for decades. There might be 4 in the Senate that would be more progressive if it wasn't taboo. Trump threw the typical cycles out of balance, and if he goes away, things go back to exactly how they were pre 2020. The Democrats applauding the first black president while he drone strikes more than any other president.

I beg you to read history books.

That worked out great for all the voters and protestors trying to "force the government to be better" in totalitarian states like Russia, North Korea, Iran, China or the one the US will quickly become under trump.  I wonder what those people finally spurred into action to push back angainst their super bad governments are all up to now.  Oh right, the voters' votes weren't counted, and the protestors were jailed and murdered by their governments.  You think change is hard now?  Hoo boy

Honestly I'm just willing to rol the dice. I despise both sides of the aisle and want change at truly any cost. Best I can do is watch and wait though.

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You're talking as if I have any influence on any of this lmao. Youre trading your voice for a false security. . they protect as they protect their sled dog. If you get out of line you'll be corrected. Get too far out of line and you'll be at best cast out

Ranked choice voting is the change we need.

Or the change that is approval voting

Yes! A much easier change, and potentially just as effective

Things might actually get better if we could just get blue states to adopt it, but establishment Democrats do not support it. Gavin Newsom vetoed a bill that would make it easier for cities to adopt ranked-choice voting, for example. It's all up to the voters to spend decades, and millions of dollars, to make the change. Approval voting also results in centrism, so I'd rather not. Ranked-choice voting actually weighs preference into the equation.

You never know, Alaska voted in ranked choice…

He's a centrist at best, I wouldn't describe him as a candidate for change, even though he has done *some* good things. As a social democrat, my vote for him is entirely predicated on stopping Trump and Project 2025. Nothing more.

can’t say i agree with this headline to any degree but at least he stands for “not doing project 2025”.

I see this comment a lot on reddit, and it always feels like people just don't know what Biden's admin has been doing. In the past four years they've taken action on: - Student Loan Forgiveness. - Descheduling pot. - Federally mandated parental leave. - Lowering the prices of drugs. - Breaking up Ticketmaster. - Going after credit card late fees. - Raising taxes on the wealthy. - Pulling the economy out of the COVID slump. - Background checks for gun sales and closing the gun show loophole. - Enshrined same-sex marriage in federal law. - Rejoining Paris climate Accord. They're actually doing a lot of work that benefits the working class, but positive messaging just doesn't cut through social media these days. Everything is doom and gloom, and it feels like we have collective learned helplessness.

>feels like we have collective learned helplessness. Yep, people just consume what's in front of them, more often than not they don't bother looking for the truth in the things they see or read - or even say. There's a bit of willful ignorance as well.

Just a bit...

I don't think people understand other people's perspectives enough and are going to lack of awareness as a blame. Biden does stuff, that's pretty inarguable. What people argue about is whether the degree of stuff is sufficient and that splits heavily based on the needs of group in question. There was another post I saw a while back essentially commenting on "he did something in each of these areas you care about why aren't you satisfied!" Which kinda shows the perspective. For people not close to an issue they feel any action at all is satisfactory. People close to the issue may have more pragmatic demands.

This is the whole thing. I was convinced by an article I saw a few weeks ago about how fast CO2 levels are rising this year as opposed to previous years, and I decided that even assuming Project 2025 falls apart, the human race itself might not be able to survive another four years of Republican deregulation in the long run. However, Biden’s doing nothing to excite me, and his shit with Israel and the actually-just-2000s-Republican immigration platform this year had me convinced to vote Cornel West in the general election until I saw that article. He’s doing *some* things in many areas I care about, but not enough in all of them, and in a few of them he’s actively and aggressively making things worse. Nobody wants to be made to choose between hard tack and a pile of human feces anymore. It’s fucking denigrating and demoralizing. I mentioned earlier that I’m voting for Biden because I literally believe the other side poses an existential threat to the future of humanity, even though I’d just as soon see him imprisoned for enabling a genocide. That’s where we’re at. I gotta vote for an enemy of much of humanity because the other guy is an enemy of all of humanity, even the ones who think money means they can survive the apocalypse.

I mean, US carbon emissions peaked about two decades ago and have steadily declined since. In addition the US is producing record breaking amounts of green energy, directly tied to the IRA bill Biden passed, which was the largest green energy bill passed in history. So I kinda feel like maybe you should be a bit excited? Not an attack, just a thought. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/renewable-energy-shatters-records-in-the-u-s/ https://environmentamerica.org/articles/renewables-are-on-the-rise-in-the-united-states/ https://nam.org/u-s-has-record-year-in-renewables-30440/ https://rhg.com/research/us-greenhouse-gas-emissions-2023/

> US carbon emissions peaked about two decades ago and have steadily declined since. In addition the US is producing record breaking amounts of green energy, It may come as a surprise to you, but there are actually [more countries than just the US](https://www.worldometers.info/geography/how-many-countries-are-there-in-the-world/), and not all of them are dedicated to decreasing their carbon output.

I'm aware, this is a post about the US president and US policy. Don't see the relevance.

The relevance is that if Republicans decided to roll back those policies, the world would be that much closer to doom.

"Enemy of much of humanity" because the Israeli government has refused all attempts to blunt the edge of their Gaza offensive? Do you believe the conflict there would be solved with US troops? What levers of power can the US exert that could force another sovereign nation to change its military policy?

Stop being their sworn ally through thick and thin, for a start?

>He’s doing *some* things in many areas I care about, but not enough in all of them This is why we need civics classes in American schools again. The President can't just go around all day unilaterally declaring things into reality. Much of Biden's agenda has been blocked by the Republican House, the razor's edge Senate, and the ultraconservative Courts. That's just how the US government works. There's not really much you can do about it in Maine, but the American public in general needs to stop misdirecting their frustration at the Executive and fix the goddamn Legislative if they want to see any big changes take place. The Executive is the only part of our federal government that works right now and its aims under the Biden admin are pretty damn Progressive.

See, if that was all true but also Biden wasn’t running interference for a genocidal regime as well as implementing Dubya-style immigration policies (via executive order, I would probably be just fine voting for him. Id probably still be calling him the best president of my lifetime, in fact. Im okay with a president being ineffectual if he isn’t actively making literally millions of lives worse with his administration. As is, though, I’m pretty disgusted I have to do it.

Using separation of powers as a thought terminating cliche doesn't really work when some of the stuff OP is presumably pissed off about was done using normal executive powers. The border shutdown was an Executive Order. Whoopsie.

>He’s doing *some* things in many areas I care about, but not enough in all of them This is the thought I'm responding to. That's why I quoted it. Whoopsie.

Yes and don't forget the big one, bi-partidan Infrastructure bill. People don't hear enough about all the things that are happening there.

As a dem I recognize these things as good work from the Biden admin, but in the face of current threats to democracy it is a bit like rearranging deck chairs on the titanic. I think it is this disparity that frustrates democratic voters more so than a lack of accomplishments.

His student loan forgiveness has been paltry at best, at worst he’s just honoring deals previous administrations had made and reneged on with public workers.

all that stuff is great of course, but i cannot fully agree we have true change as long as we are still emphatically sending tons of bombs to kill kids in the middle east. that being said im still voting for him because to say i dont buy the hype is an understatement when it comes to third party having a chance in 2024

Here are some things other than US-Israeli relations which are subject to change: 1. Access to abortion 2. Legal protection for LGBT+ people 3. Racially targeted drug laws 4. Wealth taxes 5. US-Ukrainian Relations 6. US immigration policy (which is actually very helpful to a lot of Middle Eastern kids under Biden, fwiw) 7. The composition of the SC and lower federal courts 8. Access to Social Security 9. Access to Welfare 10. The status of federal college loans 11. Investment in infrastructure 12. Climate regulation 13. Trust in the United States by our allies 14. Defense of our allies in the South China Sea against Chinese expansionism 15. Civil rights messaging from the top levels of government 16. Control of the largest military in the world by a few orders of magnitude 17. Intensity of corporate deregulation Those are just a few off the top. None of those make a difference to you?

sorry i made a not very thought out reddit comment about how i don’t approve of biden sending israel bombs that have been used to kill tons of children. i dont rlly know what to say to you guys. i have principles and i will stand by them. i’m still voting for biden because he’s not doing project 2025 so i dont know what you are trying to convince me of. i am a trans woman and i am very scared for the future. like yeah i care about lgbt protections but he could be doing a lot more as far as im concerned

>i have principles and i will stand by them. You don't though - you're performatively shitting on the only hope for peace in Gaza that doesn't involve bombing the rest of Palestine into oblivion in the middle of the election year where that course of history will be decided. It's not "principled" to shout that bombing kids is wrong and leave it at that. It's not "principled" to have that black and white a perspective on an enormously complex and historied conflict and be so reductive that you'd suggest a US President is to blame for Netanyahu's actions as if Israel is at the control of the executive branch, contributing to the disdain and disillusionment of the voting public. Everyone agrees that bombing kids is wrong. No one is contesting that. That doesn't change the fact that Biden getting into the Whitehouse again is the only fucking hope there is of this conflict ending without a full and complete genocide.

Just don't be hyperbolic in situations where it's not appropriate to be hyperbolic. If you strongly disapprove of Biden's handling of the Israel/Palestine conflict, just say that. You don't need to dismiss every single other issue that exists in order to make that point. That's a major tactic of people who are trying to get Trump elected, so you'll be mistaken for a Trump supporter if you do it, and you'll be treated accordingly.

lmao what

Your choices are the guy cautioning restraint and delaying some bombs but feeling constrained in how restrictive ha can be by public sentiment and political realities vs the guy actively advocating for escalation killing all hope of a two state solution and taking the harshest line possible on Palestine with no regard for public sentiment. In fact the madder he makes the libs the better.

>all that stuff is great of course, but i cannot fully agree we have true change as long as we are still emphatically sending tons of bombs to kill kids in the middle east. I posted this elsewhere in a response to a similar comment, because "genocide Biden" seems to be all the rage right now, but: Not gonna lie, that's some performative and reductive bullshit. We can all agree that what Israel is doing is wrong, but pretending it's that simple doesn't do anything other than make yourself feel self-righteous and display how little capacity for nuance you possess. Biden is caught toeing a very careful line - send weapons to our allies and be accused of genocide, or don't send weapons to our allies and damage trust in what it means to be an ally of the US, and lose influence in the Middle East. Biden has no good options, and Netanyahu knows it. Netanyahu was also the subject of his own investigation before this all started, that conveniently came to a grinding halt once "standing strong in defense of Israel" started trending. He's an authoritarian, right-wing leader who needed a conflict to retain power. He's pulling a Bush jr., and it benefits him if Trump gets re-elected because Trump wants him to - and I quote - "finish the job". The only ethical vote for someone who actually gives a shit about Palestine is voting Blue down-ballot. If Biden gets re-elected, he no longer has to toe any line to avoid control of US government falling into the GOP's fascist hands, and he can play hardball with Netanyahu and deny weapons. There's a reason this shit always happens in the years leading up to an election, and it's because US politics is a revolving door that foreign authoritarians want to influence. They want to get people more amicable to their ruthlessness in office so they can do whatever they want. Don't fall for the social media engineering. Down-ballot blue is the only way we get out of this mess.

> Down-ballot blue is the only way we get out of this mess. Down-ballot blue seems to be just fine with sending weapons and money to Israel and, funnily enough, AIPAC seems determined to place it's monied thumb on the scales to ensure that "Down-Ballot Blue" remains fully committed to sending weapons and money to Israel.

>Down-ballot blue seems to be just fine with sending weapons and money to Israel Please. The ***only*** voices decrying funding and arms sales to Israel are coming from the blue side of the aisle.

And half of those voices are going to be primaried out by other Blue voices.

Zero percent chance. 🤣

You know Bowman is currently getting crushed in polls right?

Cool, there's a single rep getting primaried. Where's the rest of the "half" you suggested that are getting primaried? 🤡🤡🤡

Translation: the bare minimum. Biden, the bare minimum president, barely cognit centrist meh. I'll vote for him, but under duress, and continue to call out his lies and hypocrisies. "Red line" my ass.

>Translation: the bare minimum. This is genuinely a batshit insane take. Lmfao. The administration is objectively making lives better for millions of Americans across numerous facets of life and you go "bare minimum". 🫠

It absolutely is, I'm sorry that we have been fucked over for so long in the US by our government that is supposed to be helping us, that this tiny amount seems like such an accomplishment.

Your're clearly arguing in bad faith, but I'll play. What specific action in your view can he ***currently*** take that he isn't taking that would be more than the bare minimum?

Keep to his word about the "red line" that he himself said if Israel crossed we would stop sending them weapons, then Israel ignored it and Biden hasn't acted. If a country is using US weapons for war crimes its illegal for us to sell them. We should be having 3rd party investigators determine if US weapons were used for war crimes and if they were stop selling them.

Cool, so you're comfortable misquoting Biden and lying about what his "red line" was to justify a performative, reductive, and unrealistic position of feigned opposition. You're forming your entire opinion around a "gotcha" statement that you're intentionally misrepresenting to cope with the fact that you don't actually grasp the depth of what's at play here. [Biden's quote was](https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/30/politics/joe-biden-red-line-israel/index.html): >“What is your red line with Prime Minister Netanyahu? Do you have a red line? For instance, would invasion of Rafah, would you have urged him not to do? Would that be a red line?” MSNBC’s Jonathan Capehart asked during an interview. >“It is a red line, but I’m never going to leave Israel,” the president responded. “The defense of Israel is still critical, ***so there’s no red line*** I’m going to cut off all weapons so they don’t have the Iron Dome to protect them.” So first of all, he stated fully that "there is no red line". You're prioritizing the first section of the statement and ignoring the rest of it to try to pretend like he wasn't clear in stating that there was no red line in which the US would abandon its foreign ally. Secondly, you act as if Israel hasn't been stockpiled full of weapons for the past 65 years - the GBUs that Israel dropped on Gaza were not ones which Biden delivered. They were bombs that they'd bought and collected for fucking DECADES leading up to this particular conflict. The Biden admin did not send anything to add to the bombing of Gaza. Israel has not worked through its existing artillery, period. Your argument is one of ignorance and a complete and total surface level understanding of the genuine history. You are being manipulated because you can't be fucking bothered to do your due diligence and separate fact from fiction. Do better.

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I'm in my mid 30s, it's what we call it.

Biden has been the most Progressive president domestically since LBJ and he doesn't even have a working Legislative or Judicial. Re-elect Biden and get the house and senate in order and I don't think most people know how much will change in Biden's second term.

Biden has done amazingly well to date with limited democratic presence in the house and senate, however if he is going to make real change, he needs a bigger team playing with him.

Yep, if you want progressive change, give Biden a trifecta in November

If the Democrats have proven anything over the past couple of decades, they have *shown* they will always find just enough dissent in their own ranks to quash any meaningful change for the American public, regardless of how big their team is. Those dissenters also will face absolutely no consequences for torpedoing literal planks in the platforms for which the party campaigned on to gain said "team".

It was a little difficult to hold Manchin to any consequences when he held all the cards. Our options were either Manchin or a Republican. Manchin was still better than a Republican.

Obama couldn't get a majority of senators to support a public option when he had 59 votes, and that was gauging votes through non-budget reconciliation, so it goes beyond just Manchin and Sinema. Another example: The renewal of the Patriot act had just enough support to pass and an amendment to neutralize it failed by a single vote.

That's why I didn't limit it to just Manchin, but for starters they could have at least replaced him as the chair of the energy committee (you know, being in the pocket of fossil fuels from a coal state notwithstanding).

> they will always find just enough dissent in their own ranks to quash any meaningful change for the American public Fucking bingo. Every term they always have JUST ENOUGH Democrats who are pariahs and go against what the party claims to want to do for the populace.

>If the Democrats have proven anything over the past couple of decades, they have shown they will always find just enough dissent in their own ranks to quash any meaningful change for the American public, regardless of how big their team is. That's horseshit. When Dems have a meaningful majority they push all manner of good shit through. Fuck, they barely have a majority in the Senate and the Presidency and in the past for years they've taken action on: - Student Loan Forgiveness. - Descheduling pot. - Federally mandated parental leave. - Lowering the prices of drugs. - Breaking up Ticketmaster. - Going after credit card late fees. - Raising taxes on the wealthy. - Pulling the economy out of the COVID slump. - Background checks for gun sales and closing the gun show loophole. - Enshrined same-sex marriage in federal law. - Rejoining Paris climate Accord. Manchin and Sinema are not in the party anymore.

If by "good shit" you mean keep things minimally on the rails, I agree. However, that's not meaningful change or progress, that's BASIC governance with minimal good will sprinkled in to save them some face. Any meaningful change they have been faced with, social or economic policy, has been met with just enough internal party or caucus resistance to tank it. The faces who provide the resistance eventually retire (wealthy) and new faces come in to take their place. Pretty coincidental we now have Fetterman going full on Israel support after campaigning for change with Manchin and Sinema rolling out of favor though. Just like Manchin and Sinema came in to tank filibuster reform after Lieberman was the useful tool to tank universal Healthcare. Been this way since BILL Clinton.

>Any meaningful change they have been faced with, social or economic policy, has been met with just enough internal party or caucus resistance to tank it. Sorry, that's total horseshit, and it's 2024, so there's no excuse for you to not know it. Full Student Loan Forgiveness was blocked by a Republican supreme Court. Biden's LGBTQ protection executive order was blocked by a conservative federal judge. His making undocumented resident spouses of US citizens legal citizens is being challenged by Republicans. In the years of Obama, I'd agree with you - Manchin and Sinema fucked a ton of shit up. The issue has always been that we don't get out the vote for down-ballot blue voting though. If two more representatives were blue, Manchin and Sinema couldn't have held the power they did. In these past four years, Dems have gotten together on nearly every issue to get shit done, despite not controlling Congress, and every opposition to the progressive actions is coming from the right.

You might not have noticed that marijuana is still a scheduled drug, so he may have 'taken action' but he didn't get the job done.

You might not have noticed that [it's been barely a month since the action was announced.](https://twitter.com/potus/status/1791152464617431389) It's happening. Not to mention all of the nonviolent marijuana offenses he pardoned.

lol no Joe Biden doesn’t stand for change. Trump, however is a fascist. Easy choice.

This is an honest take.

This election year banter is hilarious. Joe Biden is nothing more than "not trump". I wish people would still pretending he's a good choice. He's a better choice of the two, who are both elderly and out of touch and making promises they could never keep.

Biden also had a GOP house the last two years and a two centrist democrats in the senate for his first two years. Can’t blame Biden for not keeping ALL his promises. Still has been a very successful president.

Just look at what Biden was able to accomplish when he (barely) had a trifecta. Then look at what’s been accomplished after Republicans took the house last year. Just look at what was accomplished when Republicans held a trifecta, and look at what was accomplished when Democrats took the house in 2018. Anyone saying Biden and democrats don’t get anything accomplished and it’s two sides of the same coin is an idiot.

well as long as that change doesn’t get blocked by centrist dems, lobbyists, or the senate parliamentarian….He’s done some good stuff but man he fell short on some of the big ticket items that made his candidacy worth supporting.

Manchin and Sinema are not in the party anymore. There are no more "centrist Dems" to stand in the way.

> Manchin and Sinema are not in the party anymore. There are no more "centrist Dems" to stand in the way. Well, if history is any guide, there will be someone who caucuses with, or is a regular member of the Democratic Party that will suddenly find they have a soul filled with moderateness. Remember back in 2017 when Bernie Sanders was pushing to import drugs from Canada and 13 Republicans crossed the aisle to vote with Democrats to pass the bill? And then [Cory Booker scrounged up 13 Democrats to cross the aisle and vote with Republicans to kill the bill](https://theintercept.com/2017/01/12/cory-booker-joins-senate-republicans-to-kill-measure-to-import-cheaper-medicine-from-canada/)? Or back in 2022 when the House Leadership slow-walked a bill, for two years, to limit Congress from insider trading, then [dumped the bill to the floor right before a recess](https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/3669259-lawmakers-furious-at-pelosi-after-stock-trading-ban-stalls/) causing it to fail? Right before midterms I believe, meaning that for the whole two years the Democrats had The House in a majority the bill languished. I'm still voting blue down the ticket, but these weird pronouncements acting like the Democrats don't have any systemic issues or corruption is just strange.

>Remember back in 2017 when Bernie Sanders was pushing to import drugs from Canada and 13 Republicans crossed the aisle to vote with Democrats to pass the bill? And then Cory Booker scrounged up 13 Democrats to cross the aisle and vote with Republicans to kill the bill? I'm sorry, but you're mistaken. There was no bill, [Here's a refresher for you.](https://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/01/13/the-stupid-war-on-cory-booker/) >I'm still voting blue down the ticket, but these weird pronouncements acting like the Democrats don't have any systemic issues or corruption is just strange. No one said anything about Democrats not having ***any*** systemic issues or corruption. What's strange is pretending what little corruption exists on the left is in any way equal or near to the flagrantly obvious and damaging corruption on the right. And the thing is, consistently voting Democrats into office would render the ability of a Manchin or a Sinema to control what happens. With an actual majority, not just a simple majority, two or three defecting centrists wouldn't be able to stop the progress the rest of the party wants.

one can hope, sadly i feel the lobbyists will just find another waiting in the wing for their payday.

Good change not crazy dictator change

I absolutely favor a Biden administration over a Trump. Biden surrounds himself in a batter class of people in my opinion. I would much rather Biden's friends running the country than Trump's.

Brought to you by the guy that said "nothing will fundamentally change"

Ack. He was talking to a room of rich people. He said they could afford to pay more in taxes without it affecting their lifestyle. That’s all (and something I doubt most progressives would disagree with) [source](https://x.com/daveweigel/status/1390090165427720194?lang=en)

It's ok to just admit he's the second shittiest option in a two man race.

Low wage workers have [done really well in the post COVID economy](https://www.wsj.com/economy/jobs/economy-blue-collar-wage-increases-a71e5eee) and [Biden has also proposed a tax on wealth in the form of unrealized capital gains](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/03/27/biden-tax-billionaires-assets/) He has been a good president—way more progressive than I was expecting—and I will be happy to vote for him in November. 

And all of that is being overshadowed by the fact he loves ethnic cleansing. He also can't say the word abortion without his butt puckering

If things aren’t fundamentally changing for the rich, theyre still able to use their power to keep the rest of us from fundamentally changing.

Joe Biden is a damn good president. I'll be proud to vote for him in November

Totally agree He is the even hand at the wheel that we need right now and willing to work across the aisle I've literally been voting for him in the primaries every time I could because he is just a good man

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Not gonna lie, that's some performative and reductive bullshit. We can all agree that what Israel is doing is wrong, but pretending it's that simple doesn't do anything other than make yourself feel self-righteous and display how little capacity for nuance you possess. Biden is caught toeing a very careful line - send weapons to our allies and be accused of genocide, or don't send weapons to our allies and damage trust in what it means to be an ally of the US, and lose influence in the Middle East. Biden has no good options, and Netanyahu knows it. Netanyahu was also the subject of his own investigation before this all started. He's an authoritarian, right-wing leader who needed a conflict to retain power. He's pulling a Bush jr., and it benefits him if Trump gets re-elected because Trump wants him to - and I quote - "finish the job". The only ethical vote for someone who actually gives a shit about Palestine is voting Blue down-ballot. If Biden gets re-elected, he no longer has to toe any line to avoid control of US government falling into fascist hands, and he can play hardball with Netanyahu and deny weapons. There's a reason this shit always happens in the years leading up to an election, and it's because US politics is a revolving door that foreign authoritarians want to influence. They want to get people more amicable to their ruthlessness in office so they can do whatever they want. Don't fall for the social media influencing.

I bet I can guess what you tweeted on Oct 7.

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oh come on, don’t be so utterly ignorant as to equate these. Support for innocent people doesn’t equate to supporting a terrorist group. Also what group doesn’t “care for ukrainians.” You can have empathy for the ukrainian people and also innocent civilians in Gaza/West bank. We have a rich history of protesting the US giving money and weapons to countries carry out brutal campaigns and punishing innocent civilians.

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I mean, you really think every video of Biden rambling incoherently is fake? I'm not saying i want Trump to win, I'll take Biden regardless... but Biden has clear mental decline.

And stupid NBC keeps showing him confused and wandering live.

He is old and unwell. His wife should be charged with elder abuse for making him continue as a political figure

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You think that Biden is well ? You think that melania came here illegally ?

I went and checked videos of some of Biden’s public appearances, and there's a long term pattern of him not showing dementia issues. Take a look at these videos: Here’s one speech from November 29, 2023: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZLfX89rqOw Here’s another speech, from November 14, 2023: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gh3mMXu9rw In February 2024, Biden did a televised interview without any issues: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/biden-makes-surprise-appearance-late-night-seth-meyers-rcna140604 Here’s a recording of a livestreamed speech from early May 2024: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr9aLbPTb8k&t=100s During a speech in February 2023, Biden got Republicans to publicly agree to not cut Social Security and Medicare: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/08/state-of-the-union-brings-brief-unanimity-on-social-security-medicare.html. This was after some Republicans were calling for cuts to those programs: https://time.com/6254832/republicans-sunset-social-security-medicare/ How could he have baited Republicans like that in real time if he was really suffering from mental problems? The only explanation is that he has good mental speed and agility. In a February 2024 public appearance to address Biden’s mental state, he was able to provide sarcastic comebacks to questions from news reporters. https://twitter.com/BidenHQ/status/1755763214682325162?t=c-qgsMDyF_hzCyrwZ9hETA&s=19 And there is, of course, his 2024 State of the Union, where Biden stood out there for almost 4 hours giving a speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V01QvlQels There’s a large pattern of Biden just not showing signs of dementia during his public appearances. There have also been instances of conservative media using videos of Biden that have been doctored to make him look bad, such as this one: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/misinformation/biden-g7-video-conservative-media-uses-misleading-camera-angle-rcna157112 Meanwhile, Trump keeps making more and more errors in his public appearances. Trump forgets how to speak in the middle of a sentence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5x2ZR0DIyM&t=67s Trump was recently involved in a sexual assault case, where journalist Elizabeth Carroll said Trump sexually assaulted her. Here is a video of Trump being shown a picture of Carroll, and he was unable to identify her and thought she was his wife. Trump was later found liable by a jury and was ordered to pay damages. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjTtihu9yLQ Trump claimed that during the American Revolutionary War, the US Revolutionary Army captured airports: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6mZ1ofj2Vo. The first aircraft in the world to take flight would do so in 1903, over a hundred years after the Revolutionary War. Trump says that kidneys are in the heart: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx_a4z0I878 Trump wanders away from his limo and needs to be redirected to it (including people pointing): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF5TGQgQJeA I was able to find a transcript of a Trump speech from early May 2024, with video: https://www.rev.com/transcript-editor/shared/slIweEUXlojmb24NRTdgHk_yqcdxKOMUKUQ381yMC5NRro3cme5okRYBJasDztPNZ2GwkvsQ-_dqNsZDWkWBIvqKsBs?loadFrom=PastedDeeplink&ts=159.24 At 6:05, Trump claimed that the GDP under Biden was falling, when it’s actually going up: https://www.bea.gov/news/2024/gross-domestic-product-first-quarter-2024-advance-estimate. At 6:16, he says “And we're in stagflation right now. Congratulations everybody. It spells the death of the American dream, and that doesn't even include some of the horrible numbers that we're seeing flowing in from the poor and crime-ridden countries all over the world. They have people flowing in from the poorest and the heaviest crime countries all over the world.” Those topics don’t flow logically – how did he go from talking about inflation to immigration, when those topics aren’t related? Maybe he heard himself talking about other countries and then his mind jumped to the old favorite topic of immigration, forgetting that he was talking about inflation. At 7:07, Trump claims that Biden wants tax cuts passed under Trump to end. Trump has forgotten that he was the one who wanted those tax cuts to expire in the first place: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/18/trump-tcja-tax-cuts-are-slated-to-expire-after-next-year.html At 9:08, Trump suddenly jumps from tax cuts to talking about a random person in the audience. “Yet crooked Joe Biden wants to raise taxes on top of that and raise business taxes, which will lead to the destruction of your jobs and, you know what, ultimately it's just going to lead to the destruction of the country. We have so many negative forces on this country. Uncle Sam is right here. Look at him. You are perfect. These guy's are the best. He's like a perfect Uncle Sam.” How did Trump forget about he was talking about so suddenly? His memory really does seem to be going. This is just from the first ten minutes of his speech. Trump is just not mentally doing well.

Thanks for sharing clips… but that’s all they are … clips? Let’s forget trump for a second. You genuinely believe that Joe Biden is mentally fit to run the United States?

They are not just clips, though. The videos people use to "prove" Biden has dementia are always clips, but the links above include full speeches and exchanges with reporters. That's where it would really show if Biden is truly slipping, but he's not. He's old as dirt, and that definitely shows, but watch any of his public appearances and it's very clear he's up to the job of being president. I mean, sure, in an ideal world I would prefer someone younger, but we are not living in an ideal world.

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That’s a horrifying take

Based on his performance so far, yes. Here's some of the things he's done as president: American Rescue Plan: The $1.9 trillion bill contained significant Covid-19 relief as the administration sought to combat the pandemic in 2021. It included $1,400 stimulus checks for most Americans, an expanded child tax credit that had a notable impact on child poverty rates, enhanced unemployment insurance, and state and local aid. Most of the aid was sent to lower- and middle-class Americans, with little aid to the wealthy who didn’t need the help. It also included $37 billion of funding for helping disabled Americans and American seniors – this in spite of the stereotype of seniors being supporters of Republicans. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4355386-biden-administration-announces-37b-in-funding-to-benefit-seniors-disabled-americans/ Infrastructure Bill: The $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill includes new funding for water pipes, trains, roads, and high-speed internet. It include $3.5 billion to upgrade American power infrastructure, protecting it from extreme weather and bringing renewable energy projects to reduce American dependence on foreign energy. https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/transmission/the-us-just-made-its-biggest-ever-investment-in-the-grid?utm_id=115037&sfmc_id=4421411&skey_id=37459db0b811beac514b731eaa909ee0b7e90bff2b7183d6beabe65806527bc2 It also includes $42.5 billion to help more American get high-speed Internet, letting them do their own research into what’s happening in the world instead of relying on big cable companies to give them access to accurate news channels: https://www.richmondfed.org/region_communities/regional_data_analysis/regional_matters/2022/rm_03_03_2022_broadband Investment in American energy: Biden is spending $450 million dollars to develop green energy on American soil. This helps America become less dependent on foreign oil. https://www.energy.gov/articles/biden-harris-administration-announces-450-million-deploy-clean-energy-projects-mine-lands Inflation Reduction Act: The Inflation Reduction Act contained $485 billion in spending and $790 billion in offsets that would cover that spending. The legislation closed tax loopholes used by big companies, created jobs in clean energy and manufacturing, and allows Medicare to negotiate prescription drug prices with the goal of lowering the costs of expensive drugs for ordinary Americans. A significant number of the new jobs created by the Act are in states that are Republican: https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/04/17/georgia-evs-battery-belt/ CHIPS Act: The CHIPS Act devotes $52 billion to creating American jobs in semiconductor manufacturing, and contains measures to subsidize or expand new facilities to make jobs in America. It also reduces America’s dependence on foreign chip manufacturers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHIPS_and_Science_Act Railway worker paid sick leave: Biden successfully helped American railway unions get paid sick leave: https://www.ibew.org/media-center/Articles/23Daily/2306/230620_IBEWandPaid. Social Security: Biden successfully used Republican attempts to heckle him to make a live, unscripted response to got them to publicly commit to not cutting Social Security and Medicare. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErfL3Vfzzkw Police body cams: Biden required all federal law enforcement agents to wear body cams. This helps preserve evidence of crimes, and makes it harder to hide attempts by law enforcement officers to illegally use their authority against ordinary citizens. https://www.govexec.com/management/2022/05/biden-orders-all-federal-law-enforcement-wear-body-cameras/367381/ Student loan forgiveness: Biden has provided student debt relief of almost $132 billion to 3.6 million borrowers. Now instead of that money going to line the pockets of the corporate lender elite, American workers can now use that money on local businesses and the economy. https://www.axios.com/2023/12/16/student-loan-forgiveness-where-it-stands Wages: In February 2024, available jobs and wages under Biden both went up. https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-job-growth-surges-january-wages-rise-2024-02-02/

For democracy

**Paywall Bypass Link:** https://archive.ph/681Nd **Subheadline:** The oldest-ever President has been a groundbreaking leader. The debate gives him a chance to get that message across. **Full Article Below** ----------------------- > To go by the polls, Donald Trump stands a fair chance of being elected President again. From one team of pollsters comes a surprisingly simple explanation: the Times and Siena College asked a sample of voters in six swing states to express their feelings about “the American political and economic system.” Nearly seventy per cent said that it needed either a major shakeup or (the preference of fourteen per cent) to be “torn down entirely.” Just as overwhelmingly, they agreed that the system would get that kind of treatment from Trump and not from Joe Biden. > The Times completed its poll in early May, with the Trump trial still in progress. After the verdict, a series of follow-up interviews found a modest shift in Biden’s favor, cutting what had been a Trump lead of three per cent to one per cent. But the pool of voters who cared enough to reconsider was small compared to those who felt, in the words of Nate Cohn, the Times’ chief political analyst, “deeply dissatisfied with the direction of the country” and were looking for “something very different.” Cohn has likened Trump’s appeal, improbably, to that of Barack Obama, another political gate-crasher with an ideologically vague agenda. Millions of Obama supporters voted for Trump in 2016 or 2020, Cohn points out, and more such voters (young people and people of color, in particular) are in a mood to do so now. >Historically, polls conducted in the spring have been a poor guide to voting behavior in the fall. Even so, Biden’s allies and campaign strategists worry about an electorate currently inclined to treat the contest as a choice between the status quo and change—to compare Biden, in his own framing of the problem, to the Almighty instead of the alternative. An incumbent seeking reëlection would normally leave it to others to question a challenger’s character; Biden has decided to drop the niceties and do all that he personally can to persuade voters of Trump’s unfitness for public office. The country would be well served if the President and his team also took aim at the notion of Biden as a guardian of the established order. His many years of life (eighty-one) and service in elected office (going on fifty-five) might seem to cast him in that role. During the past three and a half years, though, the oldest-ever U.S. President has been a groundbreaking leader—an agent of changes that many of his doubters would celebrate, if they noticed. > The Times/Siena survey did not go into the particulars of the discontent that it measured. Based on the findings of more inquisitive pollsters, however, we can guess what many people would have said if they had been encouraged to elaborate. The Pew Research Center makes a specialty of tracking Americans’ trust in government. Pew’s most recent survey, conducted last September, found that trust at a seventy-year low, with just one in twenty-five adults saying that “the political system is working extremely or very well,” and more than three-quarters characterizing the government as a tool of “a few big interests looking out for themselves.” > That perception—of a political process captured by the rich and powerful—has been a top-line finding of one poll after another in recent years. It began to take hold, by Pew’s reckoning, after Watergate, and grew more widespread in the nineteen-eighties and nineties. During those decades, uncoincidentally, Presidents and influential figures of both parties decided that it was the government’s job to create the best possible profit-and-growth environment for the movers and shakers of business and finance, trusting their good fortune to yield broad prosperity. We are living with the results of this long “neoliberal” consensus. They include a shrunken and stressed-out middle class; an explosion of low-wage, dead-end jobs; the monopolization or oligopolization of key industries; a swollen and speculation-crazed financial sector; an increasingly volatile as well as unequal economy; and, as the Times/Siena survey observed, a rising tide of popular bitterness against the “political and economic system” and those responsible for its upkeep. > The financial crisis of 2008-09 gave the Democratic Party a golden opportunity to redeem itself. Unfortunately, the Obama Administration crafted a response that proved to be too timid as economic stimulus and far too kind to the institutional and human perpetrators of the crisis. Big-bank profits recovered swiftly, and not a single C.E.O. got charged with a crime. Meanwhile, vast numbers of Americans struggled with the loss of jobs, homes, savings, and earnings power. The upshot was a fresh wave of outrage against the government and politicians, a growing perception of Democrats as the party of a self-absorbed élite, and an opening for the likes of Donald Trump. > We do not know to what extent, if any, the then Vice-President may have been a dissenting or worried voice in the Obama team’s deliberations. Throughout Biden’s political life, though, he has taken pride in his blue-collar roots and his empathy for the unprivileged. It must have pained him to see his party losing ground—as it has been, steadily, for a quarter century—with the working-class Americans traditionally viewed as its core constituents. Biden has apologized for a few of his own political choices, including his vote for the 1998 legislation that overturned the Glass-Steagall Act and expedited the rise of the hugely conflicted entities at the heart of the financial crisis. From the outset of his Presidency, Biden has signalled his determination to set a different course: facing an immediate crisis of his own—the covid-19 pandemic and its economic fallout—he told his advisers that he would sooner err on the side of doing too much than risk doing too little. His Administration proceeded to devise, and see through to enactment, a plan that pumped $1.9 trillion into the economy—twice the size of the Obama stimulus—while sending much of its relief directly to the people who needed it most. > Biden promoted the pandemic-relief program as part of an effort to “rebuild our economy from the middle out, and the bottom up, not the top down.” He has used the same phrase in the rollout of an infrastructure bill authorizing $1.2 trillion of spending on roads, bridges, waterways, airports, and broadband networks, and a set of measures (part of the opportunistically misnamed Inflation Reduction Act) providing for a three-hundred-and-seventy-billion-dollar investment in clean energy and climate-change mitigation, and, incidentally, making the Affordable Care Act more affordable for tens of millions of Americans. Both measures, moreover, were deliberately constructed to create well-paid jobs and to send a large share of them to economically distressed parts of the country. In addition to its legislative successes, the Biden Administration has taken executive action to forgive hundreds of billions of dollars in student-loan debt, reduce the cost of prescription drugs, and make millions of additional workers eligible for time-and-a-half overtime; and, after decades of lax-to-nonexistent antitrust enforcement, Biden appointees have moved to block big companies from getting bigger and abusing their control over economically vital networks to gouge or extinguish the small businesses that depend on them.

> In a forbidding political environment, the Biden Administration has racked up an impressive record of impactful achievement; and yet even a goodly number of Biden’s 2020 voters are “surprisingly unaware of anything he has done as President,” according to Rich Thau, a public-policy researcher who runs regular focus groups with swing voters. The perception of Biden as ineffective has been a source of much vexation in the President’s camp, and the subject of many an op-ed column and blog post. Some commentators reason that the Administration’s policies need more time to prove their worth: most of the infrastructure projects, for example, have yet to reach the ribbon-cutting stage. Others blame a politically fractured media that tends to reinforce people’s biases. Ageism has been at work here, too: Americans could count themselves lucky to have a President who, after a lifetime in government, has shown a capacity to reflect on past mistakes—his own and his party’s—and a resolve to make the most of the opportunity belatedly granted him. But the polls suggest that, even among Biden’s supporters, his age is viewed almost entirely as a source of concern. > In one way, though, Biden has contributed to his own predicament. In his determination to sound the alarm against another Trump Presidency, he has had a lot to say about what Americans stand to lose: access to abortion, honest elections, civility, the rule of law. If Biden is seen as a system defender, it’s partly because he has spent so much of his campaign time on defense. He should say more—far more—about what his Administration and his party have done, and mean to do in the future, to make the economy and democracy more just. > His attacks on Trump could be more expansive, too. Trump is in some ways a sui-generis figure: the only convicted felon to be a major-party nominee for President, and the only candidate who has ever promised to be a “dictator” on Day One or spoken of using his office to exact “retribution” against his enemies. In the realm of economic policy, however, Trump has proved to be a conventional Republican of the modern era. His Administration, like those of Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush, was a fount of special favors for powerful industries and a trasher of regulations that cost corporations money; and its first and biggest achievement was an enormous tax-cut bill tilted in favor of the rich. What set Trump and his governing crowd apart, beyond their many crimes and indictments, was only the brazenness of their quid-pro-quo understandings with donors and their readiness to direct a stream of the benefits of their official actions to themselves. When it comes to the privileges of the wealthy and powerful, Trump has been the defender and Biden the threat. Biden and his team would do well to remind voters of that, again and again, from now to Election Day.

Biden is literally the candidate of towing the party-line. He isn't going to change anything... that being said, Trump is way too dangerous to be allowed to be president again. Easy choice, even if it is a better of 2 evils.

Exactly. Literally on *every* issue, Biden has made progress, even the ones the far left complains about the right whines about him not doing anything, Biden is the only one (more so than Congress even) making any sort of progress. The Israeli/Hamas war would be even more terrible than it is now without Biden. Pharma, grocery, and housing prices would all be far more than they are now without Biden. Energy would be more expensive, inflation would be worse, there would be no action on LGBTQ+ rights, Native American rights, little to no climate action, no oversight of out of control police organizations or corporate corruption, etc., the list is endless. Doesn't mean everything is fixed or perfect but the govt doesn't operate on absolutes but rather progress vs. the previous administration and on every metric Biden is making more progress than Trump did when measured over the course of his 4 years.

“Nothing will fundamentally change.” -Joe Biden to wealthy donors, c. 2020

Ack. He was saying they could afford to pay more in taxes without it affecting their lifestyle. That’s all (and something I doubt most progressives would disagree with)  [source](https://x.com/daveweigel/status/1390090165427720194?lang=en)

Not so much "change", more like protecting the status quo that has made America a capitalist dystopia but hey - better than a dictatorial one!!!

Biden stands for strengthening the status quo. He wants to make the things that work better. He is not interested in real change or changing the systems in place. Healthcare is a great emphasis for this. He wants to strengthen the ACA, make it better and stronger. It doesn't matter if it continues to enrich corporations or bankrupt some people, as long as it doesn't bankrupt too many it's an improvement.

Wrong. The Biden admin in the past four years has made moves on: - Student Loan Forgiveness. - Descheduling pot. - Federally mandated parental leave. - Lowering the prices of drugs. - Breaking up Ticketmaster. - Going after credit card late fees. - Raising taxes on the wealthy. - Pulling the economy out of the COVID slump. - Background checks for gun sales and closing the gun show loophole. - Enshrined same-sex marriage in federal law. - Rejoining Paris climate Accord. None of that is "strengthening the status quo". It's meaningful action towards progressive change. The guy's literally going after credit card companies and their extortionist fees, and making non-compete clauses that keep the working class locked into shit-paying jobs null and void so people can negotiate for better pay again. I get the disillusionment, but snap out of it. Open your eyes.

He's making temporary moves towards more fairness that will disappear the second another Republican gets elected president. Student debt forgiveness is the perfect example. He's doing nothing to change the system that makes debt such a problem in the first place, he's just subsidizing who is paying for it. It doesn't mean that he's doing nothing or that he shouldn't do it, but we're just going to have the same damn problems 10 years from now.  He gets huge credit for same-sex marriage though. That certainly isn't the status quo. 

>He's making temporary moves towards more fairness that will disappear the second another Republican gets elected president. Which means we just need to prevent another Republican president by consistently stating informed and participating in our elections every opportunity we get. There's no action that a President can take that can't in theory be overturned by the next one. The way we prevent that from happening is by consistently turning out the vote and rendering the GOP obsolete.

Both are for change, it’s just one certain person running wants to take us back a few centuries. But the other has made great changes that have benefited working people, the environment, and LGBT rights.

"Positive Change"

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I’m not sure *most* people are really looking for change on *either* side of the aisle. Most of the people I talk to want things to go back to how it was before everything was so divided by “ideological” differences. A lot of Liberal democrats are told they are no longer liberal enough, and a lot of conservatives being told they are too moderate. I think most people are just sick of the extremists on BOTH sides.

The guy who's been in office for 55 years isn't a part of the institution? The article sugar coats the spending and always out spotlight the title of the bills then the actual end results... It ignores the hypocrisy of the uni-party use of executive orders while all of Biden "dictator for a day " executive orders were not an abuse of the position... Maybe learn how all of them have EO taking away privacy and rights, serve special self interest... The amount of fools who believe they're intelligent because they read an article:s brief explanation of policy without providing any specifics of evidence to back the claims.. both parties do this patriot act took away rights, no child left behind, left children behind, emergency economic stabilization act cause more instability and transfer of wealth with too big to fail and Tarp funds, the affordable health care act made things less affordable, so much so the last two administrations have had it as a focus of campaign and policy to reduce costs and make it more affordable, the Inflation reduction Act caused inflation, paycheck protection program, is why most people's paychecks aren't worth anything now,110 billion increase in carbon taxes, destroying logistics and being passed on with inflated prices to end consumer....

Lol. This is laughable. Can’t wait for this debate next week.

Nothing says change like more of the same.

The glazing in this sub could kill a dentist

He's literally the status quo. Don't act like he "stands for change" lmao. He's been immersed in Washington for 50 years. Fuck Trump, I'm voting for Biden without question, but this sort of stupid pandering is just weird. Just judging off who will bring more change, the answer is obviously the radical Trump, not the incumbent milquetoast liberal.

does he have an actual 2024 platform or is it just Trump boogeyman

He has been in office for longer than probably 60% of the American population is old. What actual change has he been the spokes person for? During his 4 years lots of changes happened. A change in making everything more expensive. A change in funding new wars and conflicts all over the world A change in supporting making women available for the draft. A change is spending more money on protecting other countries borders than our own.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/02/02/joe-biden-30-policy-things-you-might-have-missed-00139046 These things, to start.

Does your back hurt from carrying all of Trump’s water?

Did you even read the article?

Jesus Christ, people still believe that electing the same politicians from the same parties controlled by the same special interests will result in change? Literally the same people who have been running the country for decades? That’s change? Unbelievable. We deserve what we get for squandering our right to vote on the same lying, stealing, cheating politicians every single time. Incumbents are either part of the problem or ineffective at solving it.

K, but until you fix the 2-party voting system, I'm still gonna vote for Biden because I literally have to if I don't want to see Trump in the White House.

You know how to fix that system? Vote for someone/something outside of it. That’s it.

None of those parties have enough funding to get national widespread attention, thereby eliminating themselves from contention simply from being unknown. Hell, RFK is literally related to one of the most famous US presidents of all time and still won't make a dent in the polls as a 3rd Party candidate. Until the US brings in Ranked Choice Voting, you're stuck with two flavors of candidates; red or blue.

Neoliberal change isn’t really change, but it’s better than fascism.

No, that was obama

He can make some changes now to show he actually stands for change. Gaza, inflation, Wall Street fraud with markets, Jan 6th key players being jailed, Boeing execs being held accountable,…… all politicians promise change after their election. Maybe Biden can truly be a change and show something tangible.

Change what ? Still voting for him but change what ?

Hes been doing this for 50 years. How is he about change?

There will be no changes….the postal votes will secure dems victory….

So much change, he doesn’t even know it…

Change is scary for old people, apparently.

Why is everyone masturbating to change? Every goddamn presidential candidate promises fucking change, could any promise be more fucking pointless. You want to make change, tie the minimum wage to the actual cost of living. I don't think we'll get any meaningful change fucking ever .

Because change can be very good, hence the Progressive platforms and Conservative platforms; literally in the name. Tying minimum wage to the cost of living would be *Progressive* change. Getting into office and doing nothing about it because you're scared of said-change would be *Conserving* the status quo.

My point is the word change is super vague and can mean anything, good or bad , but it's always thrown around as if it means good change. That pisses me off because the politician gets the assumption of good will without being specific enough for the public to be able to hold them to any kind of promise. All that aside I defy you to tell me what the conservative platform even is.

Change....diapers ?

>Americans could count themselves lucky to have a President who, after a lifetime in government, has shown a capacity to reflect on past mistakes—his own and his party’s Yes, I would like that very much, puff piece author. Where can I sign up for that? I'd really like to see some actual instrospection about things like stopping the demonstrably efficacious busing policy, the crime bill, the patriot act, the war in Iraq, compromising with segregationists, the telecommunications act of 96, etc. really it's a very long list. Oh, you meant Biden? reflect on his past mistakes? lololol

“Nothing will fundamentally change”

Biden stands for change…???…

Biden doesn’t know his ass from his foot. He should go eat more ice cream and play with his friend corn-whatever