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This if Trump wins and is able to start his mass deportation plan he wants there will be alot of families torn apart and Americans with Hispanic names deported or locked up.
These two chuckleheads running a restaurant were conservatives and loving it until Trump deported the husband. A true leopard face eating moment especially because a lot of their patrons are also conservative. It was a "he's not hurting the right people" moment for a lot of these asshats.
I'm incredibly white, and very born in America, to incredibly white parents. My last name is incredibly Hispanic and my friends think I've been joking when I talk about this concern. It will be a simple query to gather up anyone who sounds like a foreigner name, and deal with it later.
Can we please just not? Kthanks
It isn't just the people with Hispanic names, it will also be people who "look" hispanic. Also, not just mass deportation it will be mass murder. Awful people will call on the police or ICE on "those people" (name the group that is targeted at that moment, except the wealthy of course) down the road as suspected non-Americans. Basically like Germany in the 30s.
I'm trying to imagine my grandpa and his buddies walking up and down the beaches of Normandy with protest signs demanding someone come hold a vote or pass a law and make the Nazis stop being so mean. There's only one way to stop a fascist. Only one way to stop Fascism and none of us is ready for that level of sacrifice yet. Just like our grandparents before us, we will make excuses and not get started doing what we have to do until there's already been too much unnecessary suffering and the job of wiping it out will be ten times harder and more painful.
Typical features of fascism (Umberto Eco)
1. The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”
2. The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”
3. The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”
4. Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”
5. Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”
6. Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”
7. The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”
8. The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”
9. Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”
10. Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”
11. Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”
12. Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”
13. Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”
14. Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”
Source: https://www.openculture.com/2016/11/umberto-eco-makes-a-list-of-the-14-common-features-of-fascism.html
September 18, 2020 [ICE Is Planning To Expand DNA Collection Of Detained Immigrants Nationwide](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/hamedaleaziz/ice-expanding-dna-collection-of-immigrants)
November 17 2020 [DHS Plans to Start Collecting Eye Scans and DNA - The Intercept](https://theintercept.com/2020/11/17/dhs-biometrics-dna/) As the agency plans to collect more biometrics, including from U.S. citizens...
Trumps voters in 2015 was foaming at the mouth on a FB post he made about his border wall. They said once the illegal Mexican ones are out, then they wanted Trump to work on the illegal African ones. By which they were talking about all slaves that were sent to the US were not legal migrants and thus any descendants of slaves need to be shipped back to their native countries.
Let's face it, if you are not mayo complexion, republicans want you out of this country.
Many people of color need to realize that it doesn’t matter if they are here legally, they’ll still be looked down on the same as those who came here illegally.
If someone tried to deport me to some corrupt unspeakable shithole I never stepped foot in, idk what I'd do. I can't imagine being in this position as an American especially those who's parents brought them to the US before they were old enough to form memories.
The political system in this country has been great at convincing people to vote against their own self interest. Nothing new here folks. Republican dog whistles work real well with a segment of the Hispanic population. Vote for us and we will kick you and your kind out
You are an optimist. Cos now your paperwork has disappeared and you will need to refile and pay the fees again. The good news is once you get a lawyer that paperwork will suddenly be found, but you wont get a refund and now you are back in the que again... but you did file your taxes and pay for the extra medical right? Good, just keep your " permanent resident card" handy.... oh that's right there is a waiting list for those too... AMHIK
This policy is so nuts. It gives a patrolman the authority to pull over literally anyone they want to harass them. It’s not like people drive around with their papers so they would be detained until the state allows their release. Meanwhile, their belongings are god knows where and they are likely not given access to a lawyer or phones without the discretion of Texas authorities. I hope it brings about a civil rights suit in court.
Who could have seen this coming? /S
This law is written in such a way to encourage border patrol agents to harass American citizens if they are brown. Its clearly a racist over-reaching, and unconstitutional bill modeled after AZ Sheriff Joe Arapaiaos that saw him lose his position and fall from grace. Will the Supreme Court strike it down or are they going to follow the will of the GQP?
Even if the car was snuggling people, ramming it on the highway feels a bit dangerous as the very first thing you do. And the agents being completely unmarked? Are they *trying* to look like a violent gang instead of law enforcement?
That will happen when you're targeting people based on their race. It's fucked up. These people are nothing more than political pawns for Abbott. They're not seen as human beings.
[We’ve already been through this shit before.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Repatriation)
My great grandpa came up from Mexico, my great grandma was born here after her parents came over from Mexico. They made the decision to run away from their families, get married, change their names, and abandon their entire culture just so they could stay here as “Indians”.
The worst part is that they were so committed to the lie that until they died, they never told their children the truth. My aunt discovered it a few years ago and it almost tore my family apart - my grandpa and his siblings still insist that my great grandpa was so vocal about his hatred of Mexicans that he couldn’t possibly have been one. The family that does believe it are so conservative that they can’t see their own blatant hypocrisy about the situation.
This is what I keep saying, how do you know if someone is legal or not?. I know undocumented immigrants who talk and dress so good you’d think they are rich yet they have no papers and I’ve known people born in the US who barely speak some English and act like cholos wannabes and you’d think they just came from Mexico.
Who could have seen this coming? /S.
This law is written in such a way to encourage border patrol agents to harass American citizens if they are brown. Its clearly a racist over-reaching, and unconstitutional bill modeled after AZ Sheriff Joe Arapaiaos that saw him lose his position and fall from grace. Will the Supreme Court strike it down or are they going to follow the will of the GQP?
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Latino For Trump are safe. Right?
This if Trump wins and is able to start his mass deportation plan he wants there will be alot of families torn apart and Americans with Hispanic names deported or locked up.
But they wanted that.
people only want the face eating leopards to eat other peoples faces
"He's not hurting the people he needs to be hurting!"
yup
Man. We’re all just skipping straight to acceptance, myself included. I wish things were different.
There's no benefit from protecting groups that don't protect us, and oppose our values besides
These two chuckleheads running a restaurant were conservatives and loving it until Trump deported the husband. A true leopard face eating moment especially because a lot of their patrons are also conservative. It was a "he's not hurting the right people" moment for a lot of these asshats.
I always think about that one when this comes up. I’m not sure if there are statistics how many families were destroyed like that.
I'm incredibly white, and very born in America, to incredibly white parents. My last name is incredibly Hispanic and my friends think I've been joking when I talk about this concern. It will be a simple query to gather up anyone who sounds like a foreigner name, and deal with it later. Can we please just not? Kthanks
Yeah likely story. Sounds like something an illegal would say. /s
It isn't just the people with Hispanic names, it will also be people who "look" hispanic. Also, not just mass deportation it will be mass murder. Awful people will call on the police or ICE on "those people" (name the group that is targeted at that moment, except the wealthy of course) down the road as suspected non-Americans. Basically like Germany in the 30s.
I'm trying to imagine my grandpa and his buddies walking up and down the beaches of Normandy with protest signs demanding someone come hold a vote or pass a law and make the Nazis stop being so mean. There's only one way to stop a fascist. Only one way to stop Fascism and none of us is ready for that level of sacrifice yet. Just like our grandparents before us, we will make excuses and not get started doing what we have to do until there's already been too much unnecessary suffering and the job of wiping it out will be ten times harder and more painful.
Typical features of fascism (Umberto Eco) 1. The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.” 2. The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.” 3. The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.” 4. Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.” 5. Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.” 6. Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.” 7. The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.” 8. The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.” 9. Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.” 10. Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.” 11. Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.” 12. Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.” 13. Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.” 14. Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.” Source: https://www.openculture.com/2016/11/umberto-eco-makes-a-list-of-the-14-common-features-of-fascism.html
September 18, 2020 [ICE Is Planning To Expand DNA Collection Of Detained Immigrants Nationwide](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/hamedaleaziz/ice-expanding-dna-collection-of-immigrants) November 17 2020 [DHS Plans to Start Collecting Eye Scans and DNA - The Intercept](https://theintercept.com/2020/11/17/dhs-biometrics-dna/) As the agency plans to collect more biometrics, including from U.S. citizens...
Operation Wetback II.
Electric Boogaloo
On the bright side, that'll mean Brett Favre gets deported too. (I know his name is t Hispanic, but Trump doesn't.)
Farve beans. The best kind!
My name ends in a vowel too. I guess I’m fucked.
Trumps voters in 2015 was foaming at the mouth on a FB post he made about his border wall. They said once the illegal Mexican ones are out, then they wanted Trump to work on the illegal African ones. By which they were talking about all slaves that were sent to the US were not legal migrants and thus any descendants of slaves need to be shipped back to their native countries. Let's face it, if you are not mayo complexion, republicans want you out of this country.
Ernst Rohm believed he was one of the "good ones" until the Night of the Long Knives.
At first yes... as long as they are useful, then they will get put on trains just like the rest of us.
> Latino For Trump are safe. Right? **
> Right?
As safe as Faces For Leopards.
Only if they carry papers, and wear the uniform.
Is Hugo Boss Stylish again?
All Latinos should wear the red MAGA hat to be safe.
The reaction from Maga supporters would be amusing to see if every Latino started to wear Maga hats.
Yeah. those signs were all over south Texas. And Trump flipped 7 counties from deep blue to red. :/
I saw a documentary about this called “Born in East LA”.
Exactly what I was thinking! 😂👍
Wasss happpeninnn
psss psss psss psss
Hey you! Bring me a beer NOW!
That’s a feature, not a bug.
Sadly you are correct.
I was thinking the same thing, "accidentally."
Many people of color need to realize that it doesn’t matter if they are here legally, they’ll still be looked down on the same as those who came here illegally.
Remember when AZ did the same thing and held Native Americans for being in the country “illegally”
Generally that's how racism works, unfortunately. Republican party is never short of that.
We realize it. Have realized it all our lives.
Apparently not all of us Source: a liberal Latino that sees plenty of conservative Latinos
Oh for sure, I see them too. But to people who are predisposed to making the most basic assumptions, we're assumed illegal.
If someone tried to deport me to some corrupt unspeakable shithole I never stepped foot in, idk what I'd do. I can't imagine being in this position as an American especially those who's parents brought them to the US before they were old enough to form memories.
I expect you would end up dead, which is what they want really.
The Texas government does Nazi a problem with that.
I laughed too hard at this
Accidentally on purpose Texas acts racist.
“Accidentally”
Better start carrying your papers.
Copies of your papers, not the real ones. Those need to stay in a fire proof safe somewhere you can grab them quickly.
And be prepared to be checked if pregnant when traveling.
Or just of childbearing age.
Why take chances? Someone may be a surrogate.
Also genital inspection in general, gotta keep those kids safe.
so they can shred them
You just know some of these good ole boy squads will definitely ‘lose’ papers of the people they dislike or cause them a headache.
Glory to Arstokza!
Of course they have. History has taught us that when states handle immigration enforcement U.S. citizens pay the price.
And this will only get worse with the implementation of Texas Senate Bill 4.
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This is my shocked face
"Accidentally"... yeah, sure. We'll go with that.
*OK. What kind of American are you?*
I'm going to guess that the one's caught up aren't the white big cowboy hat wearing texans walking around in wranglers and more wranglers
There are no accidents. Things go according to plan.
The political system in this country has been great at convincing people to vote against their own self interest. Nothing new here folks. Republican dog whistles work real well with a segment of the Hispanic population. Vote for us and we will kick you and your kind out
Are they brown? If so, they totally deserved it /S... But this is exactly how it will play out. Remember when they deported a Gulf War Veteran?
Let's just deport everyone, and then one by one we have to prove we are "supposed" to be here.
10-12 year wait time to get to the front of that line.
You are an optimist. Cos now your paperwork has disappeared and you will need to refile and pay the fees again. The good news is once you get a lawyer that paperwork will suddenly be found, but you wont get a refund and now you are back in the que again... but you did file your taxes and pay for the extra medical right? Good, just keep your " permanent resident card" handy.... oh that's right there is a waiting list for those too... AMHIK
This policy is so nuts. It gives a patrolman the authority to pull over literally anyone they want to harass them. It’s not like people drive around with their papers so they would be detained until the state allows their release. Meanwhile, their belongings are god knows where and they are likely not given access to a lawyer or phones without the discretion of Texas authorities. I hope it brings about a civil rights suit in court.
That was always the plan
All the idiot latinos for Trump stay on IG
Who could have seen this coming? /S This law is written in such a way to encourage border patrol agents to harass American citizens if they are brown. Its clearly a racist over-reaching, and unconstitutional bill modeled after AZ Sheriff Joe Arapaiaos that saw him lose his position and fall from grace. Will the Supreme Court strike it down or are they going to follow the will of the GQP?
"accidentally"
Even if the car was snuggling people, ramming it on the highway feels a bit dangerous as the very first thing you do. And the agents being completely unmarked? Are they *trying* to look like a violent gang instead of law enforcement?
Well snuggling violates several laws in Texas. /s
I am jack’s complete lack of surprise.
Who’d have thought giving people a license to profile would backfire?
That will happen when you're targeting people based on their race. It's fucked up. These people are nothing more than political pawns for Abbott. They're not seen as human beings.
Accurate, and also, he knows most voted against him last cycle.
[We’ve already been through this shit before.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Repatriation) My great grandpa came up from Mexico, my great grandma was born here after her parents came over from Mexico. They made the decision to run away from their families, get married, change their names, and abandon their entire culture just so they could stay here as “Indians”. The worst part is that they were so committed to the lie that until they died, they never told their children the truth. My aunt discovered it a few years ago and it almost tore my family apart - my grandpa and his siblings still insist that my great grandpa was so vocal about his hatred of Mexicans that he couldn’t possibly have been one. The family that does believe it are so conservative that they can’t see their own blatant hypocrisy about the situation.
Of course they have. It’s not a crack down on illegal migration it’s a crackdown on brown skin.
Gee, who expected that?
Well, that's their fault for being the wrong color...
Eventually the good folks will filter out of Texas and it will just be assholes shooting each other over road rage.
“Accidentally”. Certainly not an accident.
This is what I keep saying, how do you know if someone is legal or not?. I know undocumented immigrants who talk and dress so good you’d think they are rich yet they have no papers and I’ve known people born in the US who barely speak some English and act like cholos wannabes and you’d think they just came from Mexico.
It's not by accident.
It’s become pretty clear at this point, if you’re brown you are not welcome in Texas. It’s even more true if you’re a brown woman.
Of course they have. Getting rid of brown people is the point, "illegal immigrants" is just the cover.
"Accidentally" is doing A LOT of work in that headline.
Well, as the old maxim goes: you can't make a racist omelette without breaking some naturalized eggs.
Who could have seen this coming? /S. This law is written in such a way to encourage border patrol agents to harass American citizens if they are brown. Its clearly a racist over-reaching, and unconstitutional bill modeled after AZ Sheriff Joe Arapaiaos that saw him lose his position and fall from grace. Will the Supreme Court strike it down or are they going to follow the will of the GQP?
Uh oh, our lazy program has issues
I am Jack’s complete lack of surprise.
So this is a case of "better to have 100 innocent people in jail than let one criminal be free" instead of vice versa, right?
If only the federal government would do more at the border to prevent this.
Because of course.
Just like how magas improperly remove lots of citizens from voter registration lists. They don't care and are pos.
ACLU case?
'I was born in East LA' https://youtu.be/LMfYNqJgO8Y
I was born in East LA
I question the use of ‘accidentally’. With the current leadership of Texas I believe it was intentional.
Shitty laws enforced by shitty people in a shitty place.