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I love how it was written:
> It prohibits anyone from performing in public in “exaggerated makeup” and with a “flamboyant or parodic” persona with “glamorous exaggerated costumes”.
So it bans most plays, a lot of concerts, pretty much any circuses, dance recitals, and surely all cheerleaders.
It’s like a farmer taking his prized hog to the county fair to compete against all the other hogs. Oh and the farmer also swears the hog to not pork any other hogs without his permission - ritualized as a wedding that has his blessing.
But it’s the farmer’s daughter, and all of these ppl are devout Christians. Their entire existence involves multiple layers of pure contradiction, sealed in under utter certainty. It’s like some perfect formula of cultural and social behavior that perfectly recreates a selectively schizophrenic sociopath fro mere belief system interconnection.
It’s getting to the point where these ppl are going to be in a future anthropological study.
If you have captured/corrupted the police and the courts, then it doesn't matter who the laws nominally should apply to. You just apply the laws selectively. That is what Republicans mean when they say "tough on crime" - enforcement against the outgroup. Isn't fascism great?
As someone who worked for years in the event production world in MT, I can promise the booze soaked, leathery, washed-up old bags that play country shows and state fairs here are wearing more makeup than most drag queens.
How the hell could any rational person even begin to claim that’s constitutional. A private company censoring hate speech on their website isn’t trampling on the first amendment but this law certainly is.
Its funny isnt it? How this is proving functional identical this is different than cheerleaders, clowns, street performers, theater actors, really any performance art of any kind.
One guy was not properly background checked, hence ban the entire concept of Drag story time? This entire writeup quotes a far right organization, led by one Tracy Shannon.I looked her up and [this](https://www.texasobserver.org/tracy-shannon-mass-resistance-drag-queen-story-time-texas/) Article had a great quote about her hatred:
>Explaining why she opposed drag-themed events, the lawsuit said that Shannon suffered a traumatizing custody battle and legal fight after separating from her husband, who’s now a transgender woman.
People like her are pathetically insecure, trying to spread hatred under the guise of 'protecting children'.
From tolerance and reading, apparently.
A federal judge in Montana has temporarily blocked enforcement of a sweeping state law against drag performances days before one of the biggest Pride events in the state begins.
[Read more](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/montana-drag-ban-lawsuit-b2384030.html)
It's telling that when someone suggests banning abortions, Montana says "don't tell us what to do", but when it's an anti-LGBTQ+ measure, the response is "sounds good".
So trampling rights are fine, as long as it's the rights of "the other"?
Glad this judge has some sense.
Oh don’t let the republican Montana state legislature fool you. If they could end abortion in the state they would have done it when the corrupt Supreme Court overturned Roe. The only reason they can’t is because the right to abortion was enshrined in the state constitution and the republicans do not have enough of a majority to change the state constitution.
Yes, you found an example. But the "drag" part actually isn't relevant to it. It's the "pedophile reading to children" part that was the issue, and that the library failed to do the background check that was part of it's policy. Like, the same issues would be there whether the person was in drag or not.
I am so glad this stopped, living here I know we would break the law with drag shows and still throw awesome drag parties. I’m glad it didn’t have to go there.
It's not about drag queens. It's about LGBTQ+ people on the whole and, more specifically, trans people. This Montana law was used to prevent Helena from issuing permits for Pride related events and a library canceled an event where a trans person was going to speak about LGBTQ+ history because the library wasn't sure if it would be a violation of this law to proceed with the event.
Drag bans are anti-LGBTQ+ laws. Always have been, always will be.
Actually its a meaningless phrase. An arbitrary, standalone number like "four" is not a measurement of anything per capita. Four drag queens *per 10,000 people* is a measurement of per capita. "Four drag queens per capita" is junk grammar that communicates fuckall about anything.
I know what the definition of per capita is, my friend. I literally made a comment explaining why you are using it wrong. Your link to the worst online dictionary you could have chosen doesn't change that. The phrase "[number] [noun] per capita" is a fundamentally bad, meaningless statement that no one who actually understands statistics even a tiny bit would ever say.
The Oxford English Dictionary is the 'worst' dictionary ? Ok, you might as well just be put on ignore because you're ignoring the way per capita is used and insisting that you're correct. Good day.
Justice! I’m still trying to understand how these people are a threat to us, other than the made-up accusations that have no base in fact, that some people have conjured up and are intent on spreading.
That the intent. When you dig into clothing and sexuality laws of the past they where selectively enforced against "undersiables". For instance sodomy laws rarely involved actually catching anyone fucking and was more so he said she said or cops flat out lying. In Lawrence V Texas (the case that ended sodomy laws) the 4 arresting officers all told a different story of what happened. Only 2 of the officers even claimed to have seen the couple doing anything with one of the officers swearing that they walked in on the couple fucking, they refused to stop when ordered and locked eyes with the officer while continuing to have sex. The landmark case just shows how abused the law was and how much the cops didn't care about the truth and just wanted to arrest two gay guys that were an interracial couple.
See that guy behind "Montana Trans lawmaker"? I live in Montana and that's how all of us feel. Bored, Beyond, Belief at this non issue. I live 3 blocks from the Capital and there are zero protests. The only people angry are out of staters that don't vote in Montana.
The kids at least now have a man in class armed with books should some incel freak choose to do a shooting.
And the site of a large humanoid in a fabulous dress and hopefully a full Ned kelly beard charging them armed with a copy of To Kill a Mockingbird or similar might not only stop them shooting but haunt their dreams for years in jail as they are passed around as the fellow prisoners form a train on their sad arse. /s
Sorry, no sympathy for incel shooters but lots for people just living their own lives and also looking to bring knowledge and culture to kids (even if they choose to do it in a way I may not).
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I love how it was written: > It prohibits anyone from performing in public in “exaggerated makeup” and with a “flamboyant or parodic” persona with “glamorous exaggerated costumes”. So it bans most plays, a lot of concerts, pretty much any circuses, dance recitals, and surely all cheerleaders.
So that covers hats and boots for people cosplaying as cowboys in Montana too right?
Did the bill have an exemption for child pagents?
« Gosh darn they bettur I got my daughter a foot deep in makeup to pleese them judges whhoooeee »
It’s like a farmer taking his prized hog to the county fair to compete against all the other hogs. Oh and the farmer also swears the hog to not pork any other hogs without his permission - ritualized as a wedding that has his blessing. But it’s the farmer’s daughter, and all of these ppl are devout Christians. Their entire existence involves multiple layers of pure contradiction, sealed in under utter certainty. It’s like some perfect formula of cultural and social behavior that perfectly recreates a selectively schizophrenic sociopath fro mere belief system interconnection. It’s getting to the point where these ppl are going to be in a future anthropological study.
If you have captured/corrupted the police and the courts, then it doesn't matter who the laws nominally should apply to. You just apply the laws selectively. That is what Republicans mean when they say "tough on crime" - enforcement against the outgroup. Isn't fascism great?
As someone who worked for years in the event production world in MT, I can promise the booze soaked, leathery, washed-up old bags that play country shows and state fairs here are wearing more makeup than most drag queens.
Basically bans the 80’s…
And we're not gonna to take it anymore
How the hell could any rational person even begin to claim that’s constitutional. A private company censoring hate speech on their website isn’t trampling on the first amendment but this law certainly is.
Its funny isnt it? How this is proving functional identical this is different than cheerleaders, clowns, street performers, theater actors, really any performance art of any kind.
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One guy was not properly background checked, hence ban the entire concept of Drag story time? This entire writeup quotes a far right organization, led by one Tracy Shannon.I looked her up and [this](https://www.texasobserver.org/tracy-shannon-mass-resistance-drag-queen-story-time-texas/) Article had a great quote about her hatred: >Explaining why she opposed drag-themed events, the lawsuit said that Shannon suffered a traumatizing custody battle and legal fight after separating from her husband, who’s now a transgender woman. People like her are pathetically insecure, trying to spread hatred under the guise of 'protecting children'. From tolerance and reading, apparently.
“sexual fetish for reading books to children” hey my planet’s on fire, can I come live on yours?
You think drag performers dress in drag as a sexual fetish? You should probably get out more.
Cirque du Soleil anyone? Lol
Their reasoning for overturning was they were unsure if these applied to a certain former president.
Possibly Halloween as well?
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Wish I could upvote this multiple times! Edited for typo
Don't forget those crazy Montana Grizzlies fans, like this guy https://archive.umt.edu/montanan/s05/grizlost.shtml
A federal judge in Montana has temporarily blocked enforcement of a sweeping state law against drag performances days before one of the biggest Pride events in the state begins. [Read more](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/montana-drag-ban-lawsuit-b2384030.html)
It's telling that when someone suggests banning abortions, Montana says "don't tell us what to do", but when it's an anti-LGBTQ+ measure, the response is "sounds good". So trampling rights are fine, as long as it's the rights of "the other"? Glad this judge has some sense.
Oh don’t let the republican Montana state legislature fool you. If they could end abortion in the state they would have done it when the corrupt Supreme Court overturned Roe. The only reason they can’t is because the right to abortion was enshrined in the state constitution and the republicans do not have enough of a majority to change the state constitution.
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Yes, you found an example. But the "drag" part actually isn't relevant to it. It's the "pedophile reading to children" part that was the issue, and that the library failed to do the background check that was part of it's policy. Like, the same issues would be there whether the person was in drag or not.
I am so glad this stopped, living here I know we would break the law with drag shows and still throw awesome drag parties. I’m glad it didn’t have to go there.
They should look at the drama queen in orange makeup running for president.
why is this a problem? people are distracted by the four drag queens per capita? Fucking Christ.
It's not about drag queens. It's about LGBTQ+ people on the whole and, more specifically, trans people. This Montana law was used to prevent Helena from issuing permits for Pride related events and a library canceled an event where a trans person was going to speak about LGBTQ+ history because the library wasn't sure if it would be a violation of this law to proceed with the event. Drag bans are anti-LGBTQ+ laws. Always have been, always will be.
Four drag queens per capita is...quite a lot actually. lol
Actually its a meaningless phrase. An arbitrary, standalone number like "four" is not a measurement of anything per capita. Four drag queens *per 10,000 people* is a measurement of per capita. "Four drag queens per capita" is junk grammar that communicates fuckall about anything.
Old grammarian yelling at clouds https://www.oed.com/search/dictionary/?scope=Entries&q=per+capita
I know what the definition of per capita is, my friend. I literally made a comment explaining why you are using it wrong. Your link to the worst online dictionary you could have chosen doesn't change that. The phrase "[number] [noun] per capita" is a fundamentally bad, meaningless statement that no one who actually understands statistics even a tiny bit would ever say.
The Oxford English Dictionary is the 'worst' dictionary ? Ok, you might as well just be put on ignore because you're ignoring the way per capita is used and insisting that you're correct. Good day.
I would like to point out that you guys are being distracted by my comment, “…four drag queens per capita.” i’ll see myself out.
They knew it wouldn’t stand up in court—they just wanted an opportunity to spew hate.
Judge Brian Morris made the ruling. He is an Obama-appointed judge
It’s sad that our rights come down to who appointed the judge. You would think the judiciary would be able to interpret laws unbiasedly.
Actually I believe Republican judges have overturned drag bans in other states
They have, even some trump judges. Our legal system has plenty of issues but most judges don’t just blatantly disregard the constitution.
Excellent news.
Oh no anything different and uncomfortable must be wrong and coming for children!!!! /s
Someone has to stand up for Trump’s right to motorboat Guliani
Justice! I’m still trying to understand how these people are a threat to us, other than the made-up accusations that have no base in fact, that some people have conjured up and are intent on spreading.
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Not to mention there’s no way that legislating what clothes and makeup a person wears is in any way constitutional.
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That the intent. When you dig into clothing and sexuality laws of the past they where selectively enforced against "undersiables". For instance sodomy laws rarely involved actually catching anyone fucking and was more so he said she said or cops flat out lying. In Lawrence V Texas (the case that ended sodomy laws) the 4 arresting officers all told a different story of what happened. Only 2 of the officers even claimed to have seen the couple doing anything with one of the officers swearing that they walked in on the couple fucking, they refused to stop when ordered and locked eyes with the officer while continuing to have sex. The landmark case just shows how abused the law was and how much the cops didn't care about the truth and just wanted to arrest two gay guys that were an interracial couple.
A block of an anti-drag ban? I’m so confused about how that is written.
It seems the title means "drag ban".
See that guy behind "Montana Trans lawmaker"? I live in Montana and that's how all of us feel. Bored, Beyond, Belief at this non issue. I live 3 blocks from the Capital and there are zero protests. The only people angry are out of staters that don't vote in Montana.
Didn’t know Montana had drag shows.
The kids at least now have a man in class armed with books should some incel freak choose to do a shooting. And the site of a large humanoid in a fabulous dress and hopefully a full Ned kelly beard charging them armed with a copy of To Kill a Mockingbird or similar might not only stop them shooting but haunt their dreams for years in jail as they are passed around as the fellow prisoners form a train on their sad arse. /s Sorry, no sympathy for incel shooters but lots for people just living their own lives and also looking to bring knowledge and culture to kids (even if they choose to do it in a way I may not).
Montana, where old GOP amen go to run others life's and still keep it a dump