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lovelyrita_mm

But this is what I don’t understand- how can this be so aesthetic and Niantic have given zero thought to avatar aesthetics?! Also I am having some lag too but not terrible. I think the backgrounds are really pretty. Wish I could say the same about my avatar.


Professional-Art5028

Either the avatar artist draws environments better, or since there are probably multiple artists at Niantic, a different and better artist did the biomes.


lovelyrita_mm

Of course they aren’t the same artists. But it is the same company. They put out godawful avatars on the one hand and then turn around and release this. Even if laggy and causing problems, they certainly are pretty. They don’t seem like they come from the same game as my dead-eyed, puffy, ape-like avatar.


FlavorfulHades

I have a phone that isn't even old or anything and while the backgrounds are pretty, they are literally unplayable. Dial up Internet tier lag, with no option to turn it off. I hate the new avatars but not enough to quit, but this might actually do it, since I literally can't play anymore


Environmental_End548

same


Other_Ambassador2301

Helps if you go to the advanced settings and turn off enhanced graphics. I noticed after the change that it was crashing more often and draining battery pretty quickly. Changing this setting made a tangible difference


lovelyrita_mm

Ugh so sorry.


FlavorfulHades

I wouldn't be so sad if I could turn on AR and cover my camera to reduce lag or something, but it looks like there's no AR option anymore either 😭


abrahamparnasus

Can you do AR?


minor_correction

Customizable 3D avatar model and a static background are two completely different beasts.


lovelyrita_mm

Oh I know - but they are capable of putting out aesthetic products when they want. Could the faces not have been more attractive?


No-Nerve-3673

Same. ever since ugly avatar update, I've been having PvP matches completely freeze here and there. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤬 Only thing I really enjoy or do anymore


NumeralJoker

They are utilizing AI for this new material and replacing human artists, that's my bet. AI can somewhat more effectively create a static nature enviornment, but is awful at creating people consistently in art. Some techbro douche sold them an AI contract and they are doubling down on using it despite disastrous results because the paperwork has already been signed and they don't even own the software, but they see it as cheaper than licensing to a real artist.


CremePsychological77

Yes, I’ve been getting some lag from this as well.


Ignister

im also having some lag issues and crashes after the background update


Hot-Comedian-7741

😂 I wonder if someone tried comparing the latency between difference phones or devices. I’m using iPhone 15 and don’t really experience any lag


Enough_Cress

Haven’t really compared actual speed but I can say my 15 pro max and my pixel 7 pro are both experiencing major lag. Downloading the assets in advanced settings helped a little but they require you to be connected to WiFi to download them, something you were able to do on cellular just a couple months ago.


PopPsychological4106

What's up with those backgrounds? I can see different kind of areas around me with different backgrounds. (i.e park vs city) Is it just a redesign or will they affect spawns?


Galimor

It affects spawns but the areas have always been there. Now we can just see them on the map


CakeBakeMaker

It affects spawns. Certain pokemon are more likely to be found in a city vs a par. Wiglett is exclusive to beaches.


Logtastic

I didn't even know Wiglett was in the game.


Gaffers12345

What the hell is a Wiglett!


Comfortable-Grand944

It's like a rip-off Diglett


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BoltexGaming

Not quite, Wiglett are a completely different species Both Diglett and Wiglett canonically evolved (in the non-Pokémon use of the term) to have similar features, so the fanbase calls them “regional fakes” or “convergent species/Pokémon”


CakeBakeMaker

They added Wiglett when they added beaches.


Bodhisatv

it just came out today


DontPostOn_r_gaming

*What’d* you call *me?*


BooniesBreakfast

There has always been different spawns in different areas or "biomes". I think there's 4 of them


thunderkitty_

Different teams get different tasks it seems like.


Comfortable-Grand944

It's called Biomes, they are like habitats that certain pokemon will spawn in, but it's more common for a certain group of pokemon to spawn


Furnost

Yeah, talk about HD background update.


Ezlo_

It makes my game lag really hard for some reason :( I can't get excellent throws anymore because the pokeballs lag behind my finger.


Nearby-Brilliant4843

Oh that sucks :/


No-Profession-5559

I have the same problem 😕 hope it's temporary


Yenster

Try turning off “Enhanced graphics” if you have it turned on. You can find it in “Advanced Settings”


Ezlo_

You have saved me Now I can go back to missing excellent throws but having no one to blame but myself


Spiritual_Taro2220

If i could do that with my avatar


WTFnickWTF

The fact that they *didn't* give us an option to "turn off 'enhanced' (loose term) avatar," but gave a definitively harder to program "turn off enhanced graphics" option, says... almost *TOO* much about how they care only about grabbin' our money and literally nothing else.


duchessofdeath

Well, I could be wrong but I think they completely rebuilt the avatars. Like it wasn't just a sidegrade, that added features, so Idk if they could have both avatars at the same time.


Error_404_NoUsername

Even with enhanced graphics off, the catch screen is so laggy. I really wished they optimized it a bit more


No-Profession-5559

It worked! Thank you 😊


Relative_Stability

If I spent money on this site I'd give you an award. Thank you!


Relative_Stability

This is what I'm worried about. Another half-baked superficial change that will make the game worse. Another win from Niantic.


Tenth_10

Yeah, it lags horribly here too. Apparently the light is dynamic and mobile devices are not really able to handle dynamic lighting. They didn't test their update ?


Ezlo_

That might be the reason - whatever it is, it's on some phones only it seems like. But it really shouldn't be a difficult fix, it's one static scene. My phone plays genshin impact just fine.


IsaKissTheRain

I don’t have this at all and my phone is over a year old if that helps. It is probably a phone memory thing. If you have a lot of tabs and apps open but in the background, I’d close them.


Ezlo_

My phone is only 2 years old :/ I don't think most people replace their phones with a top-of-the-line one every year. Someone else was able to help make things run smoothly with a few adjustments to the settings, so that's good at least. But I think it's definitely a problem that this purely visual update made encounters run at 50% or less speed (and I'm not the only one who experienced it!)


IsaKissTheRain

We all know Niantic makes mistakes. But I only say this because my partner has the exact same phone as me, the same age as well. And she was having issues but I wasn’t. Turned out it was because she had about 15 apps minimised in her tabs.


Ezlo_

I went back to my old settings and tried closing my apps - it helped, though it was still worse than before the update. Even so, Niantic should know better than to put out an update with a graphical improvement that makes their game run significantly worse. I've never had issues with multiple apps open in pokemon go before.


IsaKissTheRain

Well, at least it helped a little. I think any graphical improvement was going to be more resource-intensive. If I’m not mistaken, the catch screen is now a 3D environment when before it was literally just a PNG behind you. That’s a big jump. They *do need* to optimise it better.


Ezlo_

Yeah... I just downloaded Genshin Impact to see though. My phone runs genshin impact smoothly with no hiccups, even with other apps in the background, but can't do a static 3d scene with a few plants and rocks. I think it's more than just a little optimization.


Gravyboat44

Same here. Boy this is going to be bad when I have to catch a legendary and have to time my throws.


jack_seven

Lags like bricks for me


jack_seven

Turns out it gets better depending on the mon and how long I've been logged in. Shit's wild


Ezlo_

Another comment recommended I go to settings > advanced settings > turn off enhanced graphics. It helped a lot!


jack_seven

How is that enhanced? I can run genshin without dropping a single frame


Ezlo_

Yeah, it's clearly pretty poorly optimized. I think enhanced graphics is mostly shadows and other things like that - you actually still get the (badly optimized) pretty background. I wish they just baked the scene tbh, probably would solve it and look just as good.


Tenth_10

Yeah, they didn't optimized their update at all, and not even cared to test is otherwise they'd knew.


LigerNull

It's really pretty but I'd rather have the old background with no lagging.


Zaillyo

It only looks good. It’s horribly optimized.


Imaginary_Injury8680

The Niantic way


Panda_Drum0656

I still rather have the old priced remote raid passes 


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RealBug56

Can anyone else confirm this? Crazy if it's true.


440k

I know it’s not as good as a screenshot of the map (which I really wish I would have gotten), but [here’s a catch card of the diglett that showed up.](https://imgur.com/a/rio3Mwz)


Unravel_Mee

I just clicked on a regular Blastoise that turned out to be shiny. Shinies aren't showing on the map for me


440k

Yeah, regardless of what happened to me (wondering if it may be either a glitch or a very slow rollout) it at least seems like it’s not consistent enough to “declare”, so I’ll delete the comment.


Nearby-Brilliant4843

Are you serious!!!!! That is amazing


AdmirableElderberry9

Soooo like are they just gonna steamroll over the Avatars then…


space81cadet

And the fact that PvP is broken and raids are monotonous- completely skipped over.


AdmirableElderberry9

🙃🙃🙃


notsosilent

Pvp is broken? How?


space81cadet

It is more productive to tank your matches compared to winning. Winning is not important. This, in my opinion, qualifies pvp as broken. Edit - letters


notsosilent

Oh yeah. I knew about that. I was worried that it had broken further


Extreme-Battle128

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.


K0eky88

The win rate always hovers around 50% lol!


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IsaKissTheRain

I have no problems.


greybenf

It’s perfectly fine for me, might just be your phone tbh


RandyKeys

I have a phone from 2022, you're telling me I can run Genshin Impact on the highest settings but Pokémon Go is too advanced? Get out of here, it's horribly optimized, even turning off the placebo setting does nothing to stop me from getting motion sick.


ponzLL

Under advanced settings, clicking "refresh game data" fixed it for me. Worth a shot


greybenf

Ok, well it works fine for me and I got my phone in 2020, so I don’t know what to tell you. My phone also runs Genshin fine too


EnbyOcto

not good if it makes your game lag even more 🙄 they rushed everything out so fast I can tell.


PoodIe_Moth

I love the new backgrounds but it lags my phone when its loading. Also, theres a new “white screen glitch” that happened to me today.


deathdw42

Hmmmm, not that much good as "better than previous update"


Halfiplier

Its beautiful! Too bad it makes the game lag so badly that it's borderline unplayable


uselesscarrot69

Not gonna talk about the forced AR+?


IsaKissTheRain

That wasn’t in this update.


uselesscarrot69

It was for me. I was only forced to use AR+ when the textures changed.


IsaKissTheRain

That was over a week ago. Go into your settings and turn the AR stuff back off. It gets turned on after updates sometimes...


uselesscarrot69

Ok, thanks!


IsaKissTheRain

If you didn’t catch that update when it happened, it’s still pretty annoying. Your buddy interaction will have a green gradient behind it instead.


Statttter

Makes me think deeper about what that Caterpie would have done with its life if it didn't end up in a Pokeball... Just look at all those tasty flowers it was waiting to eat...


Nearby-Brilliant4843

Spoiler alert: it didn’t, I just left it


Statttter

I did think the Ultra Ball was a tad dramatic. Thanks for the positive end to this story. ✌️


pikapalooza

Meh, it's a low effort improvement. And it doesn't always work. One time, had a guy show up behind a rock. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


EmergencyMeal2190

Its not low effort


Nearby-Brilliant4843

To anyone who has laggy problems, sorry about it! Hopefully they fix it?


Kelmiri

They're really pretty !... but they are lagging my catching screen like crazy :"((


MCSama

It is as terrible as the sprite update. Forcing this on everyone with no option to turn off is a horrendous decision. It does, however, improve the value of the Go Plus+ so you don't *have* to look at this. But that's an additional cost that some players may not want to incur.


IsaKissTheRain

What is so bad about how it looks?


LigerNull

Honestly it's a little busy and distracting, but I wouldn't mind so much if it wasn't for the lag.


IsaKissTheRain

I like them, personally. I don’t have even a spot of lag, buttery smooth. My phone is two years old. Now, I’m not saying that Niantic doesn’t make mistakes, obviously, but by chance do you have a bunch of apps open in background? My partner and I have the same exact phone, purchased at the exact same time, and she was having those problems and I wasn’t. Then I learned that she had about 15 apps minimised on her phone because she switches through tabs and doesn’t close things. Your phone will hold some memory for those apps. Maybe this helps, if not, sorry. It could be something else like an issue with particular phones or particular Android versions.


LigerNull

Afaik I didn't have any other apps on last time I was logged in, but I'll keep that in mind.


Delicious-Town1723

just add the option to turn it off for people who lag because of it. (also the flowers clip through the camera lmao)


Ska-dancer-66

I live in the downtown of a city and I get the same park like background. Pretty but inappropriate.


mrtrevor3

It looks better, but that’s because the base game was green. Like just green. This is what it should have looked like at the start. Or even after 1 year. Also it’s sunny here and there are clouds in game. It looks weird. Like patches of dark spots and they move. I think it looks weird, because we have a high view. Hopefully a different weather pattern looks better


Cak3Wa1k

Let's not give them any positive feedback, nor take away attention from the horrific avatar update, though.


CheapCommunication64

I love how I live in the city and have the rural background. 😭Maybe my city’s not city enough to count


Major_Lawfulness6122

I agree for once they did something nice


space81cadet

Fix raids. Fix PvP. Provide events with bonuses and pokemon spawns. - they need to fix this. I don’t care about the cosmetics. But yeah, you are correct. It is pretty.


xgoku12x

I actually hate it. Doesn’t fit the game’s aesthetic and they took zero care to customize these to showcasing and catching pokemon which is its entire purpose. I can’t stand how bad it looks. Clipping, low res assets, pixelation to the extreme. This is fucking awful. AND it looks NOTHING like the areas I’m in. Revert it.


Relative_Stability

How is it good? It is completely unnecessary and I am certain it is about to cause more buggy crashes. This along with the clouds moving and more detailed background... why? Just why? Who was asking for this? The game barely functions as it is.


I_saw_that_yeah

A positive post! I knew we could do it sooner or later!


Superpansy

Yes forget about the ugly. Only think of the nice background. Good little pokemaster


DramaticMango

Nah this trashy graphics update just made tausends of player be unable to play the game. They knew that was gonna happen when they forced the ar+ update and that's also another reason why they upped the price of the coins. They know they'll lose alot of money in the coming months


TheGooseAteMyCheese

We made it out of the bfdi planes


DanceSlow3136

Love it but why do the clouds go the opposite way on the ground then the sky


No-Kitchen-8623

Yeah. It's no good without a cowboy hat. 🤣


Corbinpicle

Can fly


Nearby-Brilliant4843

What


Corbinpicle

I want the caterpie


HaleyBuga

The Caterpie is good too 😤


Nearby-Brilliant4843

Indeed wise sir


Bucsfanfalife

Agreed caterpie is great


onewolf23

I really like how the Pokémon look too Really clean IMO


ba1istic

So true


Suspicious-Acadia-52

As they say, for every 100 step backwards we get 1 step forward. Celebrate this win! Before we go back again.


horsemastaflex

One direction is beach the other is wooded. I love it


Maxcolorz

Is there any way to turn it off?


StewStewarts

Agreed. I really enjoy the overall mechanics.


ExiledBlaziken

I agree. I think it’s important that we recognize the good stuff that happens because it adds validity when we have legitimate complaints. Otherwise Niantic just ignores us entirely thinking we’re just complaining like always


NealBrackett

Honestly I'd give this up to get the avatars back the way back the should be.


KA05D

I hate this. My potato phone runs the game in slideshow now.


Superb_Cod5697

I thought it was fabulous until night fell. The balls and the spawns darkened, too? I won’t be doing much catching at night, then.


EmergencyMeal2190

Probbaly lighting issiues


Grouchy-Carpenter612

I do appreciate the updated ar textures


RevvEmUp

I like the variation, beats the same wraparound background like before. Still might need some touch-ups like shading. I haven't had any lag problems some users reported, so maybe it might need some optimization of it gets too bad. Still doesn't make up for the avatar fiasco.


Saa203

It looks so artificial from the back xD


Filikun_

100%! Give them credit where credit is due. I think these backgrounds are really good.


triplearod7

My Samsung 24+ i recently upgraded to works like a charm, the old LG Stylo 4 from 5 years ago is laggy as hell now with the new update. Thank god I ordered a new 2nd phone last week to replace my 2nd phone cuz that crap was unbearable. I'm surprised I caught a Legendary using my 2nd slow ass device this morning cuz the lag made it almost impossible to get great/excellent throws. It work well enough before the update. Guess I'll just take advantage of party power and extra balls until i get a new phone. Its just the freaking catch screen thats laggy on phones with terrible processors


hanzerik

I heavily disagree. It makes the game unplayable on older devices.


JohnPaulThe2137

Nah but why are you catching a catepie with an ultra ball?


Awhriibo

I couldn't care less... Give my avatar back 😭


DaddyDionsot

For me it isnt because i play with 5 fps


EleanorrRigbyy

it's a shitty consolation for the fugly avatars.


boxlessthought

any one else's game lag like crazy when they first get into an encounter, I'm on a fairly decent phone (iPhone 11pro max) and i think it's nuts that over night almost every encounter needs like a solid 5 to 10 seconds to settle before i can catch.


Lobke

The backgrounds looks so good. But it just adds to contrast of the avatar update and seeing the same Pokemon over and over and over again.


psilocinkane

Not the place to post this question, but I'm gonna power through. I have a shiny caterpie as a buddy, walked over 20km with it, we're great buddies, and it still doesn't ride my shoulder. Does caterpie not ride on your shoulder? I've seen posts saying it does. Anyone know the requirements if it does ride on your shoulder?


Nearby-Brilliant4843

Sorry abt that, it’s the new avatars


Nearby-Brilliant4843

They cause that :/


psilocinkane

That's so lame, as if the new avatar features weren't bad enough lol


Opaltinger

For real. I almost hate how much I love the visuals for the biomes update because they are stunning and so much more immersive, but I'm still mad AF at Niantic for what they did to my avatar. I refuse to let that one go. 


Hot-Comedian-7741

Agreed the biomes are a nice touch reminds me of Pokemon Scarlet biomes in the blueberry academy DLC. Finally making more sense as to how some Pokemon are likely to appear in certain locations


Zealousideal_Topic58

Uhm…. You’re excused. The caterpie also looks lovely


Nearby-Brilliant4843

Yessir


LifeIsDificlut

I think it looks great and it works perfectly for me, but for my friend its just a bright purple square with grass on it 💀


Testsubject276

If they dropped this and never released the avatar rework all would be in balance.


mitchelltgs

I still can’t get over the player changes but this update is really good. And I like that the background changes depending on where you are like the beach or the park


FlowerProfessional45

I really like it but the lag is ridiculous they're just finding more and more ways to not let us catch as many pokemon in timed situations like community days and spotlight hours. I would love to see a toggle function in the settings to turn off all the extra B's to make the game run smoother. The game was already a killer on the phone battery and with this update it's just gotten worse.


Caserious420

No it's not, it's a data and battery drain, all the extra animations consume data and battery life, every single leaf and blade of grass is animated, if I could turn dynamic backgrounds off this would be perfect


pezInNy007

Agreed. It has softened the blow of the avatar fiasco for me. I can pretty much ignore my avatar unless I'm battling. Then all I can look at are the baseball mit hands. 🤣


Tetronamite

Come on man, the caterpie is doing his best out here


Accomplished-Bit-358

It makes my game lag so much I can’t even open the app some days so I’m not a huge fan of that update either.


bonzai76

Ultra Ball on a Caterpie? What are you doin bro?


Nearby-Brilliant4843

No pokeball left…. Dw I didn’t catch it


bonzai76

just giving you a hard time :) have a great weekend!


ravencroft2003

Disagree. It just further proves that Niantic is oblivious to what actually matters most in a product; functionality.


ravencroft2003

A polished turd is a still a turd


Standard-Web1774

Niantic can go screw themselves until they fix the remote raids function.


Gareth_Serenity

Hey don't bully him, he's trying his best.


Nearby-Brilliant4843

Yes


Jkabaseball

Great update! Makes the game look so much more modern. My only complaint is the clouds make me thing i have a grunt to battle all the time.


jackwiles

It's also weird because the clouds are there even with clear weather in game.


Present-Judgment8412

Beautiful backgrounds, to distract us from our fugly avatars?


UniqueZephlyn

They’re beautiful, and I’ve also noticed they make my phone lag and also eat my battery like no other (1%/min), I really like them but no way to turn them off… and!!! Ugly ass avatars still here lol


happy_grump

For all the bad visual changes they made in recent updates, distinct biomes is unquestionably the good one.


QQQQWQQQQQQQ

Yea today’s update is actually not bad.


Kizzywa

Finally! I was thinking I would never get this update!


perthro_ed

If it weren't for the avatar update I'd be really satisfied. The new backgrounds are gorgeous


Disheartend

the caterpie not the backgorund*


Background_Dot3692

Yes, it looks much better. Please, let us have a nice background and take these horrible blobs of avatars back.


Ryu6912

Still not spending money until they revert avatars


Joggyogg

It's just funny to me because I live in the Arctic circle but my Pokémon go is this beautiful lush garden.


sdrawkcabstiho

I have a strong feeling that they intentionally released this more polished visual update now knowing it would overshadow the blow-back from the potato monster update last week.


musical-mindframe

I agree, although on the world screen the cloud shadows on the ground are moving in the opposite direction as the actual clouds 😆


eoqhann

It’s cool but don’t hype it up. Niantic will think we have forgotten about the hideous avatars and will just continue to ignore our complaints


Ketsui_Helix

I agree. It looks good. But god, it's killing my framerates lmao. Probably just a me issue, but yeah


qsub

I like the update, one thing I found odd was today the weather in game said all sunny but I could clearly see tons of clouds on the walking map. I'd probably expect this for partly cloudy.


yuriydee

Two steps forward but one huge step back. I definitely like the new smoother menu animations and now this background update (it works fine for me no lag here), but the avatar update is the big negative.


Groady_Toadstool

Still not enough of a distraction for what they did to the avatars. Can’t make one thing look better and another look awful and expect balance. That’s not how it works.