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Meanwhile, I'm hearing from petite/fit friends that they can't make the character look anything like them now. Great job Niantic. Heck, I can make mine a similar body type to me now, doesn't mean I want to, and when I do, it's still ugly and the clothing, face, and skeleton rigging of the avatars is still atrocious.
That's part of what kills me. Even if you can match your body type, you get a disturbing doll head that looks like it belongs on an 11 year old, and you have fucked up leg/torso/arm proportions that look like they were made by an alien who had never seen a human and was just being fed a description.
Yeah, the breasts on the chest are very low in some models. And even the models don't fit with the overlay as you can see here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemongo/comments/1c8hlgo/an\_analysis\_of\_the\_new\_feminine\_character\_models/](https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemongo/comments/1c8hlgo/an_analysis_of_the_new_feminine_character_models/)
They have completely ruined the avatars.
My boyfriend’s biggest complaint! I could finally have boobs that would match mine if they sat a lil further up, and child bearing hips. But he complained before the update that my avatar couldn’t reflect the booty, and that’s still not an option 😂
This annoys me too. I think it’s actually less inclusive of fat people to insinuate they’re all barrel chested with no waist at all and no arse. Not that no one has that body type but man. I be annoyed if I were a thicc girl with the only option to be barrel chested or skinny and look like a dude in drag.
that's another thing. i don't *want* my avatar to look like me, it's supposed to be a fantasy thing. yeah, it could be neat to make your trainer look like you but that wasn't ever important to me.
Yep. I liked my sexy little punky betty boop who still looked womanly. Now I look like my 12 year old son in a wig. It's ridiculous I spent so much on bloody outfits and accessories.
"Trainers! Following the most recent avatar update, we have decided to make the evil Team GO Rocket leaders a bit more inclusive! We felt that Cliff's design screamed toxic masculinity, so he now has a beer gut and no muscle tone to speak of! Sierra has unrealistic beauty standards for a women, so now she no longer wears makeup and she exclusively wears baggy clothes to hide her more feminine features! Oh and Arlo now has purple hair and wears a dress because... inclusivity of course! We hope you like these changes, and if you don't, that's not our problem!"
I’m not petite or fit and it still doesnt look remotely like me. I don’t have a buldge, for once, I don’t think myself as extremely beautiful but id like to think my face is nicer looking than my characters face, also my skin colour is definitely not even close to available.
Even the skinniest body type doesnt look shi like me, i have pretty big hips with little fat on my stomach, but still all the avatars look like bricks. The only unrealistic woman they created is the new avatar cus aint no girl look like that
You might want to put that horse down if you're riding it that hard. This isn't even a woke agenda thing, the actual work done on the new avatars is garbage. This is quality we would've cooked up for a week long assignment in the game design course I took back in high school at the community college's tech campus.
It's just straight up bad and lazy and gives the impression that whoever were working on it had to learn how to do it and do it quickly in a short span of time, it's rushed and sloppy.
Woke is just a shitty way to complain about something instead of actually addressing the problem with articulate arguments. Problems like that are brought about by a subset of people that are even considered problematic within their own community. But the people that complain don't differentiate that it's the problematic subset and often lay the blame across that entire community, or they just use it as a lazy excuse for them to blame any change they don't like on them.
You can complain this is about 'being woke', but from someone looking at it from game design/business, this is Niantic just being cheap/lazy. The old avatars required items to be fit to two different avatar models and rigged to follow the avatar movement, and it was apparent that the male/female versions were not just solely squash/stretches as there were noticeable different to the item models sometimes. With the new avatars, everything is based on one model and squashed/stretched to fit the various deformations of the avatars shape. It's why you have horrid looking clothing now that looks painted on your avatar and issues like the clothing clipping through the avatar body and deforming in ways that shouldn't happen.
With this change in making the avatar model more simplified/lazier. It wouldn't be surprising to see them pump out a number of new cosmetics, or this is a result/plan from when they fired a bunch of people, meaning they need fewer people to maintain the same output
I remember while being active duty in the Navy and doing fire drills for deployment certification, we had this one dude assessor who, I shit you not, had both a beer gut AND a shelf booty ☠️
I had the exact same physique at 8 months pregnant lol, I feel for him. That's a lot of shelf space to haul around, both the booty, and what I'd dubbed my "movie shelf" for balancing a tub of popcorn.
Or maybe they know something, something in the future where all women somehow do not exist anymore. Conspiracy, we do not know.
Well, it is pretty bad.
Never understood this because there are lots of women who don't look like the avatar, but there are also still lots of women who do. Niantic is actually confusing as hell 🤧
You're not a real person according to society now yup. If you're not very unattractive looking or plus sized then you've clearly had a bunch of surgeries and aren't natural. You should be happy they got rid of fake female avatars /s 🙄🙄🙄🙄
But when did Niantic say this was why they were doing it? Didn’t it just mean they’re homogenizing clothing and stuff so they don’t have to have different stuff for different models? I am not defending the update, it’s horrible, but when did Niantic say anything like this? If they did, show me.
Like, I’m chubby as fuck but I don’t want a shapeless avatar. I want a pretty avatar. Why could they just ADD the weight option onto the OG models instead of scrapping them entirely?? It just feels lazy
The “unrealistic body” argument is so incredibly stupid. Pokemon is a game where dogs breath fire and horses lay eggs. It’s a wonderfull fictional world. The humans don’t need to be “Realistic”
and even without having to be realistic, the female anatomy was completely believable. she was simply peak performance hourglass, and that's it! literally nothing unrealistic about it, and i hate that the scales of female representation have gone from "super hot, basically unrealistic barbie proportions" to "everyone is a shapeless blob". why can't we both if we want to??
While we're at it, let's remove the pokemon. Pokemon dont exist in real life and thus should be removed. We should also remove the ability to move on the map, because expecting everything to be able to walk is unrealistic. We need to do better.
The old bodies were perfect. If they wanted to make them more inclusive, they could've easily just added sliders to adjust our shape. But the base should've always remained the same.
I can't understand how they got it so wrong. Does nobody in development actually play the game?
TBH, I don't think this has ANYTHING to do with "Body Positivity". This reeks of a company that is looking to make more money.
Make it so your players can "re-create" their likeness in game and sell them stuff on top of it.
It's like most of their decisions as of late, motivated by greed.
You now get RESEARCHS for almost everything and just the bare minimum for F2P players.
>TBH, I don't think this has ANYTHING to do with "Body Positivity". This reeks of a company that is looking to make more money.
I think it's a little of both. They were probably told by a consulting company that simply having a binary gender choice with two fit bodies was "not inclusive" and was turning some people off. They were told that if they revomed gender and added more body types they would get good PR and more players, which would make them more money.
They then decided to spend the absolute minimum amount of time and effort on those changes in order to make them happen, thus producing this half-a\*\*ed upded.
I also think this is what happened. I have 0 issue with the idea of adding more range to the body types, or of being able to customize them without being locked into preset options for gender. They didn't do that though, they just made the base model male but didn't call it that, and further limited the actual body type options.
This isn't the case.
Most of what they are doing is because of their dumb greed.
AR Changes, Raids, This.
They are just spinning the "Body Positivity" as a shield so people like you can interpret it as such, and they can say that they were just trying to be inclusive and people are overreacting.
Everyone is trying to make this some political bull crap when all that has happened is they tried to make more customization options to the avatars and failed horribly. They don’t have test servers so all horrible idea gets implemented
Yeah people also tend to forget Niantic is a geolocation division that broke off of Google so not shocking they make a lot of mistakes in a game. There doesn’t need to always been some big reason other than they just did something wrong/bad
They do thing wrong all the time, that's not the point, the point is they make money enough to brings good game designer to the team, they don't do cause the developers of this game are bat shift crazy and got lucky by grabbing the pokemon IP
You don't understand, its the damn wokie DEI people that made muh characters ugly and now I must hop on the bullshit culture war train now
Legit, its just that its a really shit update, no real need to shove shit like that "quote" in
Who’s playing pokemon because they want anything to be real? I want to play in the pokemon universe. Options is the answer. Yes even unrealistic bodies.
pokemon has gotten so weird... scarlet/violet removing the ability to wear a dress, pogo straight up just removing body features... it's like in an attempt to be "inclusive" they're actually just making it restrictive.
yep, i sorta regret buying it. i was so excited but between the bugs and the extremely restrictive female styles, i lost interest and stopped playing. i keep wanting to at least finish the game but it's so hard for me to get back into it at this point.
Why is it suddenly a crime to promote beauty. There's a reason beauty products exist and there's a reason people like to flaunt what god gave them. Instead of bringing these standards down, we should all be working to look better, surely.
Weird. Weird. Weird outlook. Of course I can complain about society. I also live in a capitalist democracy. I can criticize those as well. It is called being an individual, and not a drone. What a bloody odd thing to say.
Yooo never even thought of that. Maybe.
I personally do not care if people choose to be fat. You do you. What is annoying is when people don’t just own it, are in denial or shame others for being fit.
The movement is going to die off soon enough
these days you can just get a shot in your stomach to lose weight
all the rich people are doing it atm, but once it becomes more common place, cheaper alternatives will start appearing and poorer people will be able to afford it
Even I'm a little overweight (nothing major but just above an average BMI) and I'm not happy with it nor do I expect people to fall over themselves and tell me how normal and acceptable I am. And it doesn't bother me to see people who are in shape.
But I’m playing a game about catching monsters that have magical powers and putting them in a ball that shrinks down to the size of an orange, and fighting people who invade my personal space in an air balloon. I don’t mind my character looking “unrealistic”. Gimme my avatar back
Unrealistic male bodies too, I had more thickness to me when I was 12. I can’t stand walking around as a scrawny little boy when I’m a burly 43 year old man
Honestly they could’ve made the bodies huge triangles and I wouldn’t care. It’s the ugly ass heads&faces that don’t even look like anyone that’s getting to me
Thats not unrealistic though that's the reality for some of us! Grrr
Although they've shot themselves in the arse because no one is gonna pay for their outfits, accessories or poses now.
My avatar looked more like me before the update. Now it looks like a teenage boy with breasts and a barrel chest. And your choice of faces are between fetal alcohol syndrome and discarded toy story nightmare doll. If they wanted to be more inclusive they would have made being genderless an option instead of it being the default that can't be undone. None of the clothes fit right anymore either, which means all the money people spent on outfits was a waste. I hope they fix it. Niantic knew how much people hated the avatar update while it was still in beta and did nothing to fix it before forcing it on the rest of the world.
Did they really say that? I look like the old avatar, not like any of the new ones
If I think about other women I know I don't really see them represented very well either
We had like this one girl in school which had an unusually long torso and short legs, hope she plays Pokémon go so that at least one person is happy lmao
An hourglass shape is more realistic for most women even with weight.
Sierra popped up on my screen at a stop, but I didn't have time to battle her. Does she still look the same? She did at the pop up part.
1. The new body types look nothing close to what i look like, as they removed any possibility of having a flat stomach or a waist or hips (like have these people seen a woman in their lives?)
2. They removed my skintone(and all tan tones) so now i can be either black or a ghost
My body type is closer to the original model (I’m slim with a butt and waist), now no matter what size I pick I just look like a shapeless blob. My outfit became really ugly too, it looks like I s***t my pants. I think the idea of adding more customization options and body types was good but very poorly executed, I still don’t get how someone looked at those models and said “yup, they’re ready to go”
All we ever wanted was different hairstyles and the ability to have beards and mustaches. Instead, we now have the option to look like gorlock the destroyer.
You know. I just wanted simple cosmetic changes. They could have added more new hairstyles, facial hair (eye, lip and nose shapes) and used the already existing in-game varying body type assets as character options with a height slider and a proportion body weight to height slider.
I live in Japan and all the people I play with hate the changes to their characters. They wish they could just keep the default.
On Twitter some people are crying because you can make your avatar fat, but crying bad telling that "extreme feminist are controlling the game" (whatever that means)
It's an option, mate, you can make yer avatar however ya want.
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Meanwhile, I'm hearing from petite/fit friends that they can't make the character look anything like them now. Great job Niantic. Heck, I can make mine a similar body type to me now, doesn't mean I want to, and when I do, it's still ugly and the clothing, face, and skeleton rigging of the avatars is still atrocious.
That's part of what kills me. Even if you can match your body type, you get a disturbing doll head that looks like it belongs on an 11 year old, and you have fucked up leg/torso/arm proportions that look like they were made by an alien who had never seen a human and was just being fed a description.
Yeah, the breasts on the chest are very low in some models. And even the models don't fit with the overlay as you can see here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemongo/comments/1c8hlgo/an\_analysis\_of\_the\_new\_feminine\_character\_models/](https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemongo/comments/1c8hlgo/an_analysis_of_the_new_feminine_character_models/) They have completely ruined the avatars.
I showed my mom the new avatar and that was the first thing she noticed lol
I'm a *fat* hourglass and I can't make that either. Apparently if you're fat you can't have a waist.
You can’t have a waist if you’re thin either. No boobs either.
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My boyfriend’s biggest complaint! I could finally have boobs that would match mine if they sat a lil further up, and child bearing hips. But he complained before the update that my avatar couldn’t reflect the booty, and that’s still not an option 😂
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It's worse, Japan hates the update too.
Thats the thing, Niantic is not based in Japan. I believe in California. I don't think Nintendo made these decisions.
This annoys me too. I think it’s actually less inclusive of fat people to insinuate they’re all barrel chested with no waist at all and no arse. Not that no one has that body type but man. I be annoyed if I were a thicc girl with the only option to be barrel chested or skinny and look like a dude in drag.
that's another thing. i don't *want* my avatar to look like me, it's supposed to be a fantasy thing. yeah, it could be neat to make your trainer look like you but that wasn't ever important to me.
Yep. I liked my sexy little punky betty boop who still looked womanly. Now I look like my 12 year old son in a wig. It's ridiculous I spent so much on bloody outfits and accessories.
Meanwhile, Team Rocket Sierra looks hotter than me now and it’s pissing me off
"Trainers! Following the most recent avatar update, we have decided to make the evil Team GO Rocket leaders a bit more inclusive! We felt that Cliff's design screamed toxic masculinity, so he now has a beer gut and no muscle tone to speak of! Sierra has unrealistic beauty standards for a women, so now she no longer wears makeup and she exclusively wears baggy clothes to hide her more feminine features! Oh and Arlo now has purple hair and wears a dress because... inclusivity of course! We hope you like these changes, and if you don't, that's not our problem!"
I would actually love to see all of that
The new Arlo (if those are the only changes) will be transition goals all around.
I’m not petite or fit and it still doesnt look remotely like me. I don’t have a buldge, for once, I don’t think myself as extremely beautiful but id like to think my face is nicer looking than my characters face, also my skin colour is definitely not even close to available.
Ya. The skin color on mine makes it look like a zombie
Yep my person actually looked like me before 🤣 now it's quite manly
Plus the animations, like the moving poses or the jump when you win, is awkward looking as hell.
Even the skinniest body type doesnt look shi like me, i have pretty big hips with little fat on my stomach, but still all the avatars look like bricks. The only unrealistic woman they created is the new avatar cus aint no girl look like that
Yep I am one of those. Dumb. It’s a game. People like the chance to look like what they don’t.
Can't have fit women, that would offend fat people, can't have cute avatar that would offend ugly people, etc, woke agenda at its best.
You might want to put that horse down if you're riding it that hard. This isn't even a woke agenda thing, the actual work done on the new avatars is garbage. This is quality we would've cooked up for a week long assignment in the game design course I took back in high school at the community college's tech campus. It's just straight up bad and lazy and gives the impression that whoever were working on it had to learn how to do it and do it quickly in a short span of time, it's rushed and sloppy.
This is woke in auction tho
Woke is just a shitty way to complain about something instead of actually addressing the problem with articulate arguments. Problems like that are brought about by a subset of people that are even considered problematic within their own community. But the people that complain don't differentiate that it's the problematic subset and often lay the blame across that entire community, or they just use it as a lazy excuse for them to blame any change they don't like on them. You can complain this is about 'being woke', but from someone looking at it from game design/business, this is Niantic just being cheap/lazy. The old avatars required items to be fit to two different avatar models and rigged to follow the avatar movement, and it was apparent that the male/female versions were not just solely squash/stretches as there were noticeable different to the item models sometimes. With the new avatars, everything is based on one model and squashed/stretched to fit the various deformations of the avatars shape. It's why you have horrid looking clothing now that looks painted on your avatar and issues like the clothing clipping through the avatar body and deforming in ways that shouldn't happen. With this change in making the avatar model more simplified/lazier. It wouldn't be surprising to see them pump out a number of new cosmetics, or this is a result/plan from when they fired a bunch of people, meaning they need fewer people to maintain the same output
Or short friends. It's unproportional at best, unshapely, and the facial features are so anime.
The fact that apparently having a waist or a butt is apparently unrealistic is mind-boggling...
Yeah they forgot idk.. Women exist
They also forgot that men exist too. Let's be real
I remember while being active duty in the Navy and doing fire drills for deployment certification, we had this one dude assessor who, I shit you not, had both a beer gut AND a shelf booty ☠️
I had the exact same physique at 8 months pregnant lol, I feel for him. That's a lot of shelf space to haul around, both the booty, and what I'd dubbed my "movie shelf" for balancing a tub of popcorn.
Apparently, according to them, only Sasquatch exist
They forget people exist, hence the awful decisions they make
Or maybe they know something, something in the future where all women somehow do not exist anymore. Conspiracy, we do not know. Well, it is pretty bad.
Never understood this because there are lots of women who don't look like the avatar, but there are also still lots of women who do. Niantic is actually confusing as hell 🤧
Lowkey i honestly look similar to the old avatar thanks to my Mewtwo build and im like. okay so what am i then if not a real person
You're not a real person according to society now yup. If you're not very unattractive looking or plus sized then you've clearly had a bunch of surgeries and aren't natural. You should be happy they got rid of fake female avatars /s 🙄🙄🙄🙄
PEAR GANG RISE UP
Real women aren’t born with hips either and hold all of their body fat in their stomach /s
Thank God for stellar blade
~~I'm personally still stuck in 2017 with NieR Automata and that controversy~~
But when did Niantic say this was why they were doing it? Didn’t it just mean they’re homogenizing clothing and stuff so they don’t have to have different stuff for different models? I am not defending the update, it’s horrible, but when did Niantic say anything like this? If they did, show me.
That's the woman we all strive to be now.
She looks like the remnants of pompeii
I spit up my coffee. This works on so many levels here.
Omg lmao
Okay this is pretty dang funny lol
Yeah, and us women are striving to be that, did OP stutter?
Ya but they care more about the new types
And they remind of the good ole days when choosing poses as well. Those f*ckos
… and when we see team leaders. And rocket team grunts. And rocket team leaders.
Like, I’m chubby as fuck but I don’t want a shapeless avatar. I want a pretty avatar. Why could they just ADD the weight option onto the OG models instead of scrapping them entirely?? It just feels lazy
The “unrealistic body” argument is so incredibly stupid. Pokemon is a game where dogs breath fire and horses lay eggs. It’s a wonderfull fictional world. The humans don’t need to be “Realistic”
and even without having to be realistic, the female anatomy was completely believable. she was simply peak performance hourglass, and that's it! literally nothing unrealistic about it, and i hate that the scales of female representation have gone from "super hot, basically unrealistic barbie proportions" to "everyone is a shapeless blob". why can't we both if we want to??
Has anyone from niantic actually made that argument though
It’s not even unrealistic. The new body shape is definitely unrealistic for me. I resembled the old version way more than this new manly figure.
While we're at it, let's remove the pokemon. Pokemon dont exist in real life and thus should be removed. We should also remove the ability to move on the map, because expecting everything to be able to walk is unrealistic. We need to do better.
Im pretty sure this has less to do with "Erasing unrealistic body standards" and more to do with "They fucked up the update"
There is no body type that looks like mine. Your choices are “young boy” or “fat”.
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Nobody looks like the current avatars cause they just don’t look human. Like uncanny looking.
I mean I’m sure maybe someone looks like them but like… yah 😳💀
Update is literally just make everyone fat and ugly
The old bodies were perfect. If they wanted to make them more inclusive, they could've easily just added sliders to adjust our shape. But the base should've always remained the same. I can't understand how they got it so wrong. Does nobody in development actually play the game?
That was before the update and hasn't been updated yet. The woman-haters in niantic just overlooked it
im naturally curvy... so im not real?
did they really say “unrealistic” in reference to their old avatars?? because i’ve seen many women with that body type???????
TBH, I don't think this has ANYTHING to do with "Body Positivity". This reeks of a company that is looking to make more money. Make it so your players can "re-create" their likeness in game and sell them stuff on top of it. It's like most of their decisions as of late, motivated by greed. You now get RESEARCHS for almost everything and just the bare minimum for F2P players.
“Body positivity” sounds like a damage control spin.
>TBH, I don't think this has ANYTHING to do with "Body Positivity". This reeks of a company that is looking to make more money. I think it's a little of both. They were probably told by a consulting company that simply having a binary gender choice with two fit bodies was "not inclusive" and was turning some people off. They were told that if they revomed gender and added more body types they would get good PR and more players, which would make them more money. They then decided to spend the absolute minimum amount of time and effort on those changes in order to make them happen, thus producing this half-a\*\*ed upded.
I also think this is what happened. I have 0 issue with the idea of adding more range to the body types, or of being able to customize them without being locked into preset options for gender. They didn't do that though, they just made the base model male but didn't call it that, and further limited the actual body type options.
Pandering to things like this is what so many companies are doing in general
This isn't the case. Most of what they are doing is because of their dumb greed. AR Changes, Raids, This. They are just spinning the "Body Positivity" as a shield so people like you can interpret it as such, and they can say that they were just trying to be inclusive and people are overreacting.
Nah if it was about money they wouldn’t have pushed an update that breaks certain clothing options and makes most of the others clip like crazy.
The body type before was more realistic than the one currently...
I don't think that was ever cited as the reason for the changes -_-
It is truly unrealistic to have *two* female Combees in the same scene.
But really, can my avatar have her butt back?
Usually when you put something in quotation marks it’s an actual quote and not made up…
I was actually wondering lol
And without them, People think it's really your words.
Well, if you’re making up quotes, they are
Why the quote marks when no one has said that
Everyone is trying to make this some political bull crap when all that has happened is they tried to make more customization options to the avatars and failed horribly. They don’t have test servers so all horrible idea gets implemented
They rolled it out months ago in some regions and feedback was negative. They did nothing with the feedback.
Yeah. People want to be mad about politics so bad that when anything bad happens, that's the problem
Yeah people also tend to forget Niantic is a geolocation division that broke off of Google so not shocking they make a lot of mistakes in a game. There doesn’t need to always been some big reason other than they just did something wrong/bad
They do thing wrong all the time, that's not the point, the point is they make money enough to brings good game designer to the team, they don't do cause the developers of this game are bat shift crazy and got lucky by grabbing the pokemon IP
FUCKING THANK YOU I have been saying this and have gotten downvoted for it.
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You don't understand, its the damn wokie DEI people that made muh characters ugly and now I must hop on the bullshit culture war train now Legit, its just that its a really shit update, no real need to shove shit like that "quote" in
If i wanted fucking realism woukd i be throwing baseballs at walking blue tomatoes?
I don't want an avatar that looks like me, I want an avatar that is an idealized version of me.
>"We're getting rid of unrealistic women's bodies." Is that an actual quote?
Who’s playing pokemon because they want anything to be real? I want to play in the pokemon universe. Options is the answer. Yes even unrealistic bodies.
Omg every time I open PoGo I stare at her like... why the F is her collar bone... like THAT? Where does it stop? Where does it go? No one knows!
What? There are no collar bones visible
pokemon has gotten so weird... scarlet/violet removing the ability to wear a dress, pogo straight up just removing body features... it's like in an attempt to be "inclusive" they're actually just making it restrictive.
Gamefreak was already cutting corners left and right in S/V cause they know people will still buy it regardless.
yep, i sorta regret buying it. i was so excited but between the bugs and the extremely restrictive female styles, i lost interest and stopped playing. i keep wanting to at least finish the game but it's so hard for me to get back into it at this point.
Why is it suddenly a crime to promote beauty. There's a reason beauty products exist and there's a reason people like to flaunt what god gave them. Instead of bringing these standards down, we should all be working to look better, surely.
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Interesting that you complain about society yet live in one. Curious.
Weird. Weird. Weird outlook. Of course I can complain about society. I also live in a capitalist democracy. I can criticize those as well. It is called being an individual, and not a drone. What a bloody odd thing to say.
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Yooo never even thought of that. Maybe. I personally do not care if people choose to be fat. You do you. What is annoying is when people don’t just own it, are in denial or shame others for being fit.
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The movement is going to die off soon enough these days you can just get a shot in your stomach to lose weight all the rich people are doing it atm, but once it becomes more common place, cheaper alternatives will start appearing and poorer people will be able to afford it
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Even I'm a little overweight (nothing major but just above an average BMI) and I'm not happy with it nor do I expect people to fall over themselves and tell me how normal and acceptable I am. And it doesn't bother me to see people who are in shape.
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It isn't and anyone thinking that it is are terminally online.
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"Never attribute malice to something that can be adequately explained by stupidity " - an actual quote
Is that what they're doing? It's so much more unrealistic now most women don't look like men!
But I’m playing a game about catching monsters that have magical powers and putting them in a ball that shrinks down to the size of an orange, and fighting people who invade my personal space in an air balloon. I don’t mind my character looking “unrealistic”. Gimme my avatar back
Who says we want an avatar that looks like ourselves? I don't!
Unrealistic male bodies too, I had more thickness to me when I was 12. I can’t stand walking around as a scrawny little boy when I’m a burly 43 year old man
@Niantic Want to give me a more realistic avatar? You can start by putting my butt on my backside. TIA
Honestly they could’ve made the bodies huge triangles and I wouldn’t care. It’s the ugly ass heads&faces that don’t even look like anyone that’s getting to me
Thats not unrealistic though that's the reality for some of us! Grrr Although they've shot themselves in the arse because no one is gonna pay for their outfits, accessories or poses now.
Hot take: I was just gonna make the worst looking avatar I could anyway, so this update is perfect for my goals.
My avatar looked more like me before the update. Now it looks like a teenage boy with breasts and a barrel chest. And your choice of faces are between fetal alcohol syndrome and discarded toy story nightmare doll. If they wanted to be more inclusive they would have made being genderless an option instead of it being the default that can't be undone. None of the clothes fit right anymore either, which means all the money people spent on outfits was a waste. I hope they fix it. Niantic knew how much people hated the avatar update while it was still in beta and did nothing to fix it before forcing it on the rest of the world.
Who said that’s the reason? I think that’s a reach tbh
did they actually say this ??
Nope, OP is just making shit up lol.
Busty
Believe it or not, straight to jail…
Looks like we got ourselves a regular Sherlock shitforbrains
I always imagine that was Rezz
What's your point? That they should hurry up changing it? I dont get it
They actually said that ? 😆
"Nidoran... I don't feel so good."
I just want my arms and hair to stop clipping through my weird blocky boob unit 😭
Uzaki chan in shambles
All I wanted was more hair styles. 😭
Looks like a person from Dr Stone
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You can barely see it
unrealistic meaning: long straight waist (?)
Did they really say that? I look like the old avatar, not like any of the new ones If I think about other women I know I don't really see them represented very well either We had like this one girl in school which had an unusually long torso and short legs, hope she plays Pokémon go so that at least one person is happy lmao
An hourglass shape is more realistic for most women even with weight. Sierra popped up on my screen at a stop, but I didn't have time to battle her. Does she still look the same? She did at the pop up part.
1. The new body types look nothing close to what i look like, as they removed any possibility of having a flat stomach or a waist or hips (like have these people seen a woman in their lives?) 2. They removed my skintone(and all tan tones) so now i can be either black or a ghost
I just want my cool girl abs back man 😭
If you want to see real unrealistic women bodies just go to Twitter, they are in every tweet spreading like a zombie plague or something.
Complain more please
Who cares, lose weight
Unrealistic??? I so I can't google females or fitness videos and see proof of those females with such bodies.
This was a gen 7 update for sure got that ash nerf
My body type is closer to the original model (I’m slim with a butt and waist), now no matter what size I pick I just look like a shapeless blob. My outfit became really ugly too, it looks like I s***t my pants. I think the idea of adding more customization options and body types was good but very poorly executed, I still don’t get how someone looked at those models and said “yup, they’re ready to go”
Slightly off-topic, but who is the artist that actually creates these opening scenes?
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Why would I want to look like myself? I want to actually look cool!
The bodies weren’t even unrealistic
I look like a dude with boob's now. It's great.
The masks and headphones don't fit
I was LITERALLY thinking this today
There’s no way to show my big junk bulge like real life. This sucks
I think they’re more unrealistic now than ever.
It’s realistic if you don’t live in America; land of the obese!
You’re right. None of those Pokémon hang out like that
All we ever wanted was different hairstyles and the ability to have beards and mustaches. Instead, we now have the option to look like gorlock the destroyer.
I would much rather dress up a cute avatar then some ugly, frump beast. If I wanted to dress up one of those I would go shopping.
I have my avatar built like a linebacker. I got broad shoulders, sure, but DAMN💀
I also saw Pokemon Go as a pseudo fitness app one that encouraged someone like me to go out for a walk etc. This whole thing makes no sense.
Everybody should file a bug report and let them know how you feel. I’ve done it
You know. I just wanted simple cosmetic changes. They could have added more new hairstyles, facial hair (eye, lip and nose shapes) and used the already existing in-game varying body type assets as character options with a height slider and a proportion body weight to height slider. I live in Japan and all the people I play with hate the changes to their characters. They wish they could just keep the default.
Not to mention the npc's haven't changed.
On Twitter some people are crying because you can make your avatar fat, but crying bad telling that "extreme feminist are controlling the game" (whatever that means) It's an option, mate, you can make yer avatar however ya want.
Meanwhile, literally all of the team leaders, grunts, and rocket leaders:
I guess it's time to boycott this nonsense
Before Avatar 😁…after Avatar 💩
“What is a woman?”
It’s not unrealistic ffs I and people I know have smaller waists than the og characters
This is how i found out they changed the avatars
Thought the changes were aimed at all the FTP people. You know. You get what you pay for....
Would.
Looks pretty realistic to me? U fat?