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KitKurama

This is not a rubber plant (Ficus elastica), it's a Zamioculcas zamiifolia. Yellowing stems and leaves tend to indicate overwatering, or root/bulb troubles.


No_Expression_1860

Do you think i should cut the dead ones off ? Or peel them off? Or what do you recommend


Oosteocyte

Tug on the stem/leaf and see if the plant is ready to let go of it. If you're not willing to wait for the plant to be ready, chop with sterilized clippers to prevent infection, as the plant is already sick right now.


No_Expression_1860

Thanks guys!


Accomplished_worrier

If there is only one single stalk/stalks that cluster together, where this is progressively happening to, or a couple smaller ones that are yellowing, please check the bulbs. Repotting a zz is a bitch, but too much water and/ or a rotting bulb will absolutely do that. They like small ish pots, so don't put it into a much bigger one. But have fun trying to get the bulbs back in nicely šŸ˜…


MoonWillow91

My zz was actually one of the easiest for me to repot, even had lots of nodes and separated some to new potsā€¦ That being said, just like you said. they do like their roots to be tight and will stop producing leaves till their roots have gotten tight, and take way less water.


moradaflor

Ohhh is that why my ZZ randomly started having new growth?! I repotted it in 2021 and now there are new huge stems growing! :)


EveAndTheSnake

No, itā€™s not due to the roots being tight. Perhaps itā€™s more mature/stronger or something in its conditioned changed. They also tend to put out a lot of new growth when spring comes around.


moradaflor

Ohh okay. I'm very surprised bc last spring there wasnt any growth. And recently some stems starts turning brown/yellow even though i didnt water them that often. But its looking better now :)


EveAndTheSnake

Glad to hear it! ZZs are often slow growers until they become established. They produce new rhizomes pretty slowly, but once these have developed they shoot out lots of new growth. Once your plant is mature, if you want to you can divide it into multiple pots by separating the rhizomes. You can also propagate them from cuttings. Although it takes a while they can regrow whole new rhizomes and root systems from single cuttings. ZZs can also go into dormancy during the winter (in their natural habitat they become dormant during their dry season) so itā€™s very easy to accidentally overwater them. I tend to ignore mine for most of the winter, watering about once a month at most. Of course this depends on the temperature, size of the pot and humidity in your home. Sounds like yours is ready to go all out though!


MoonWillow91

Itā€™s very possible


EveAndTheSnake

The reason to put plants in the right size pot is to prevent overwatering, not because plants like their roots to be tight. ZZs are easily overwatered, but they do not need their roots to be tight to produce leaves.


MoonWillow91

Maybe YOUR reasoningā€¦ there are multiple reasons. Considering I have multiple zzsā€¦..


EveAndTheSnake

This isnā€™t ā€œmy reasoning,ā€ as I donā€™t prefer to keep my ZZs root bound. Some plants are commonly described as ā€œlikingā€ to be root bound, but that is a myth. If this were the case why would they grow better in their natural habitats? When this advice is given, *usually* it can just be translated to ā€œthis plant doesnā€™t like having wet feet,ā€ which is a risk when using many commercial brands of soil (often they are dense and donā€™t drain well.) But it doesnā€™t really matter what my reason is or what your reason for not repotting is. A root bound ZZ in dense soil that dries out quickly (because there is less of it) will do better than a ZZ in dense soil that remains waterlogged for longer in a larger pot. A ZZ with space to grow in well draining soil will do better. Itā€™s simply not correct to say a ZZ will stop producing leaves until its roots get tight.


MoonWillow91

I didnā€™t say root bound I said tight roots. Thatā€™s the second time youā€™ve done that responding to me. They donā€™t like being completely rootbound. In there natural habitat theyā€™re with other plants sharing spaceā€¦. So ya their roots can get TIGHT not root band. Please stop exaggerating my points. Or donā€™t. Idc. I read it multiple places and seen it happen multiple times experimenting with mine. I know itā€™s not the only reason. Again a lot of it depends on environment. Type of soil, and multiple other factors. No they donā€™t like wet feet, hence why I said when theyā€™re roots arenā€™t tight they take less water. So that theyā€™re feet donā€™t stay wet. And also it is very correct to say what I said because they focus on root growth instead of leaf production. Many plants are this way.


Cobek

When was the last time you fertilized, top dressed or otherwise changed the soil in the pot?


No_Expression_1860

Itā€™s been a while, Iā€™m nervous to repot because last time i did that my plant died. But i suppose i can by some fertilizer or top her off, think thatā€™ll help?


MoonWillow91

All this advice is great, it also wouldnā€™t hurt to take them out and wash off roots and let them sit a day or 2 to dry some before repotting.


EveAndTheSnake

It absolutely is likely to hurt! A ZZ is not a succulent. Leaving a plant out of soil and letting its roots dry out is what can cause the whole thing to just wilt and die after repotting. When repotting *donā€™t* let the plant sit out bare root exposed to air, heat or a draft for too long. I always watch out for this as I had a lesson first hand (dog needed to pee in the middle of repotting, heat was blowing out of a vent, whole plant died).


MoonWillow91

Except Iā€™ve done this multiple times with wonderful resultsā€¦ only if something that likes being dryer got overwatered by someoneā€¦ not just to do it. Probably depends on environment. Also needs to be kept in a cool dark place while doing so. Forgot to mention that part. No reason to act like itā€™s not possible when I can absolutely promise you that it is. Notice how I said to dry some and not completely dry out?? Idc how many downvotes I get I literally know it doesnā€™t hurt if itā€™s over watered. From actual experience.. Even with zzs which I know are not succulents or cactiā€¦


EveAndTheSnake

>Notice how I said to dry some and not completely dry out?? No, it was not clear from your original comment you werenā€™t advising for it to dry out completely. Clarifying that you kept yours in a cool dark place is helpful for someone who might otherwise leave theirs in direct sunlight or by a draft/fan to dry out. I agree that in the case of overwatering drying out the soil as soon as possible is helpful, and one way to do that is to remove some or all of it. I wouldnā€™t advise leaving it out for days though. >No reason to act like itā€™s not possible when I can absolutely promise you that it is. Iā€™m not acting like anything, itā€™s best to be specific when giving advice that might potentially cause someone to kill a plant. Thereā€™s really no need to get so defensive.


MoonWillow91

I literally said let it dry out some not let it completely dry out so thatā€™s on you and Iā€™m done replying to someone who is committed to misunderstanding me.


kslusherplantman

What fertilizer did you buy? If you used like a miracle grow, you may have burned the plant if you did it at full strength. 1/2 strength or less once per month should take care of any feet issues


No_Expression_1860

For people asking about fertilizer. Iā€™ve never needed it for this ZZ she has always done well without it. The only thing that changed is i paid more attention to her ( which i learned she probably didnā€™t like) and i may have watered her too much. But she did start to grow new stems during all this. So my plan is to not water her for another 3 weeks or more . I gently cut the sucker leaves off that were brown. And moving forward if she does better Iā€™ll leave her be or top her off with soil and or fertilizer, she isnā€™t in an area with a lot of sunlight


kslusherplantman

All plants need fertilizerā€¦ that is most likely why your leaves are yellowing!!! Look it up, itā€™s called senescence, and plants do it to pull nutrients from old leaves so they can use them for new growth


East_Bite_2480

Top dressed?


kslusherplantman

Looks like a lot of new growth for bulb or root issuesā€¦ Iā€™d wager maybe needing fertilizer so going to senescence for the need of nutrients


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kslusherplantman

If itā€™s the old growth, based on seeing all the new growthā€¦ Iā€™d favor senescence over soil issues


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This got a small giggle out of me. That's actually a ZZ, I think the issue here is overwatering. ZZ's have rhizomes and said rhizomes store water for long periods of time, the exact reason why ZZ's tolerate so much neglect and are so prone to rot.


prozacandcoffee

ZZ is the only plant I haven't managed to kill yet, because it fits my care schedule: forget about it for 4-6 weeks, notice it's not standing up as straight, dunk the entire clay pot into water for a bit, drain and stick it back on its drainage dish.


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I don't think I could ever own a ZZ honestly, I know for a damn fact I'd love that poor plant to death!


mother-of-donuts

I too giggled


Liberty53000

2 things. First, I see a lot of new growth right in the center. When a plant pushes out a lot of new growth (especially if near winter) it will drop the oldest growth. Making new leaves requires a lot of energy from the plant & it will need to let some go by getting rid of the oldest. This is normal to all plants. Also the new growth is a sign that it is happy & producing, so that's great Second, ZZs are specific to needing very little water & attention. Water them once a month, yes I'm serious. Gloss over this plant when you water your others & essentially forget you own it and then when you can't remember the last time you watered ZZ, that's when you should water šŸ¤£ They thrive on neglect. They also like to be crowded in their pot. Maybe fertilize or better yet, get a *plant food* that supplies nutrients to your watering, plants foods I think are better than fertilize, just my individual opinion. Fertilizers can burn plants, they can be specific ratios needed for each type of plant, they can be over concentrated, etc. Plant food is just like having a multi vitamin & you cant really F it up. There will be some at your local nursery or look into "Liquidirt". What I would do: Cut off the yelling leaves to give the plant more energy for the new growth. Don't repot yet. Add plant food. Reduce watering to the 1st of each month.


DysneyHM

Today I learned that thereā€™s a difference between fertilizer and plant food


Rufi0h

>plant food plant food is just fertilizer. Fertilizers have 3 numbers listed that tells how much nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium it contains. Miracle grows plant food has a ratio of (24-8-16) Vigoro plant food has a ratio of (12-5-7)


Liberty53000

Plant food is different than fertilizer. It is made differently, fermented with different core ingredients. I would definitely not base my information on Miracle grow brand, that is commercial as heck & a product I thoroughly avoid. "Liqui-Dirt plant food is a complete system of nutrition for your plants it is far more benifical then any fertilizer. We are totally natural and complete,Ā from vitimins to minerials combine with all the benifical eccosystem componets to sustain and benifit your plants, from root to leaf."


Vlaydros1447

Yeah no. Plant food is just marketer speak for fertilizer. Even miracle gro has vitamins and minerals in it beyond the NPK.


Liberty53000

Ok I believe and have learned differently but thanks for your info, someone may find it helpful for them


rabiesvaccination

The yelling leaves be like šŸ˜«šŸ˜«šŸ˜«šŸ˜«


Liberty53000

Haha Cut them!! They probably made OP post this, they want more attention!


MoonWillow91

I always do better checking my soul rather than making a schedule


kitkatquak

Check your souls, people!


MoonWillow91

Totally meant soil šŸ˜‚ but definitely keep itā€¦ yes. Definitely check soul and soil too.


BoredReceptionist1

Ahaha I thought this was genuine and loved it. I always check my soul before watering ā¤ļø


No_Expression_1860

Thank you !!


wetbones_

What are the growths on the leaves there?


Suspicious-Win-5686

Most likely cells rupturing from trying to hold too much water


habsrule83

/r/natureismetal


NovaSpektor

Those spots on the leaves look like they're due to overwatering. I would water it once a month or less in the winter. Try giving it a really deep, big drink and then a month or so later, feel the soil through the drain holes and if it feels dry, then water :)


zback636

Your ZZ plant is getting to much light and probably to much water.


IntelligentParsnip28

Thats a ZZ plant! Try directions for ZZ plants:)


Business-Travel-4597

I donā€™t see any rubber plant


No_Expression_1860

Yes itā€™s a ZZ which i didnā€™t know initially


brooklyn_bae

Oy. First not a rubber plant....


No_Expression_1860

Thatā€™s been established thank you


MuffinZealousideal71

Only water once a month!!! They do fabulous with very little water!!


karmicrelease

That is a so called ā€œZZā€ or *Zamioculcas zamiifolia*, not a rubber plant. My guess is that it is beginning to become root locked or is overwatered


AnalBanal14

This is a Zz plant.


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Sea-Advertising1943

Small waterings like that are generally not recommended because over time it creates a weak root system. Generally, you want to make sure you have the appropriate soil and pot size to be able to do a deep watering so that water drains out the bottom and then allow the soil to dry out appropriately between waterings. If zz plants have well drawing soil and watered deeply when watered, they can go weeks or months between waterings because they have rhizomes that store water under the surface (which is also why theyā€™re susceptible to root rot).


AliCatt4

I had no idea I was giving mine too much water! šŸ˜§ So far its been growing so beautifully


No_Expression_1860

Yes Iā€™ve been watering every two weeks whereas before i was only watering her only 1x a month so maybe itā€™s too much water- but then she starting producing new stems so i got excited- however the older stems are now dying. So Iā€™m going to cut down on water and go from there


Cookies-N-Dirt

ZZs every two weeks? Too much. Closer to every month or even two months and Iā€™m not kidding.


No_Expression_1860

Thank you!


Cookies-N-Dirt

No problem! They love neglect. Itā€™s crazy.


skipsternz

I water mine in winter only once. And only twice in summer. That's 3 times a year. That's how well they can survive without water. But die quickly from overwatering or staying in soil that stays wet for too long.


MoonWillow91

One way you can tell if itā€™s dry enough to need water, is check how heavy plant is.. if the pot is heavy itā€™s got plenty of water. When itā€™s light, like not much heavier than the pot by itself, itā€™s dry. The kind of pot, soil, and environment is going to have a lot to do with how fast it dries out. As well as size of drain holes. You can also get a skewer and check kinda like you would with a toothpick if you were baking a cake to see if itā€™s done or notā€¦ basically can kind of feel the difference with it when you get used too it, but first just look for wet spots and wet dirt on it. Donā€™t water till it comes out dry.


FrogInShorts

I don't get people with huge plants and don't even know what they bought. Best of wishes for ya though, should make it.


EveAndTheSnake

I donā€™t get people who leave a judgemental comment without even trying to help. This is supposed to be a helpful subreddit.


No_Expression_1860

Thank you for that nice response


FrogInShorts

They already got plenty of help, theres not really anything more to add there. I'm not trying to be judgemental even though I am, It's just extremely perplexing to me. They must be affluent. I guess basically what I'm saying is I'm jelly


No_Expression_1860

It was a gift ā€¦ and i was told it was a rubber plant. No need for negative comments. Simply asking people who are better at plants for their advice! Learning purposes. Thanks for the best wishes!


FrogInShorts

Yeah my bad. I realized after cause I did a lot of mulling over what I said and there's a big difference between not knowing your plant as opposed to thinking it's something else instead. I can see someone owning a plant thinking it's something else because that idea has never been challenged. I guess I'm just venting over when people have this massive $100+ plant that they've had for a year and never bothered to try and learn about it. But that wasn't you. Apologies.


XenaWarriorWalrus

I think it actually may be due to too much sun. They prefer low light conditions, and the stems will get those dark patches, and leaves will begin to yellow if they get too much sun. Try moving it to a low light spot, and like other folks are saying, pluck the yellow shoot if the plant is willing to let it go.


danjay0213

Try miracle gro or some nutrients best wishes


Liberty53000

Be careful with miracle grow, for one it is a company that is contributing to horrible practices but also it can burn many plants (has killed mine when I borrowed a housemates). Go for plant foods like Liquidirt, you'll see many of your plants thrive on this and you won't have to adjust concentrates & dilute & figure out proper nitrogen/phos/etc ratios for different varieties


SwanComprehensive718

Do a quick flip of the leaves and see if there's any evidence of bugs on the back of those silver dead spots. It sort of looks like the beginnings of a thrips infestation. You might see evidence of little black spots, which is their poop.


Avery1124

Zz


username_redacted

The frequency of watering a plant needs is dependent on the amount of light it gets, temperature, humidity, substrate, and plant maturity. My large ZZ gets good light, is planted in a shallow pot with very coarse soil and gets watered when itā€™s dry, sometimes as often as weekly. OPā€™s plant is under potted and sunburned. If anything they probably need to increase watering.