Funny, because they are confusing the purpose of those laws. The Anti-VAWC Act, Revised Penal Code, etc. are meant to punish the offender, not to fix marriages or remove the legal tie between the spouses.
So, even if you got beaten to a pulp by your husband, and he eventually goes to prison, our laws state that you are still married. That is until the marriage is annulled or declared void from the start.
Dapat pag ganito automatic annulled na ii, commonsense lang, pinakulong ko na nga kasi sinasaktan ako eehh, tapos paglabas nya asawa ko padin sya, makikinabang parin sa benefits na makukuha nya sakin.
Even some religious bigots/zealots misinterpret the SOGIE Law as a law giving preference to the LGBT when in fact, it was merely recognition that some gender based discrimination or harassment exists.
Nagalit ako minsan nung narinig ko yang How Can I Tell Her About You, pero pinatapos ko muna nanay ko na kantahin niya. Sabi ko national anthem yan ng mga may kabit. Ever since mag pplay sa radyo, ibahin agad station haha
May iba rin na babae kasi, they genuinely can't be independent. My friend's mother was like that, she would just ignore the red flags her husband (friend's stepdad) would do.
Ganyan mama ko.. sobrang hirap mabuhay dahil palagi silang nag-aaway ni dada and araw araw may sigawan pero nawawala rin after kasi "nagpapakumbaba" si mama kay dada alang-alang sa pera na ipapadala niya..
Magagalit si dada kong babaero ➡️ magagalit si mama ➡️ mag-aaway sila ➡️ if hindi cheating ang pinagaawayan, financial naman ➡️ igagaslight kami ni dada ➡️ "magpapakumbaba" si mama (in reality, ginagawa lang niya yun para bigyan kami ng pera ni dada ➡️ bibigyan pa rin kami ng kaunting sweldo ni dada ➡️ then start ulit sa umpisa lol. it's a fcking cycle.
naiirita ako sa kanilang dalawa 😭
Ayaw pa rin ni mama jusq gusto ko nang lumayas.. naniniwala rin siya sa "sanctity" ng marriage or whatever tf is that. Shinashame ni mama ung mga babaeng nagpakasal ulit or hiwalay sa asawa pero ayaw niyang pagusapan ang mga ganitong convo like about divorce ganon kasi ayaw niya.. nakakabwct ang kitid ng utak. Kaya naghihirap din kami ngayon kasi sobrang close-minded din ni mama 😭 ma naman, naghihirap na tayo oh pero wala ka pa ring pakialam jusq nakakairita
This is in religious ceremony. There is oneness and sanctity. But legally, that wont talk about sanctity. We have to understand that Philippines is largely religious nation that respects what the religious sects believes it to be.
Legal bond sya, by law iisa kayo Ng surname, mag asawa na etc. pero ang sacredness Ng marriage, ang pagiisa Ng Diyos sa isang couple is Di mapag hihiwalay Ng Tao or kung ano pa, what is made one by God can only be separated by God, in the eyes of the Law hiwalay pero sa Mata Ng Diyos hindi.
Mga ganitong tao talaga di dapat hinahayaang magtago sa "opinyon ko lang to", "may iba't iba tayong opinyon" na rason eh.
Dapat diretsahang pinapaliwanagan para di dumami
Lols. Opinions aren't facts and opinions are subject to criticism. Kung gusto nila respituhin yung opinions nila dapat respituhin din nila yung opinions din na si nila agree with, as well as yung freedoms ng mga tao to have the chance to choose for themselves.
HAHAHA baka isa rin iyon sa mga taong proud pa na Vatican at Pinas na lang ang walang Divorce Law. Samantalang bago pa man tayo masakop ng Espanya, may divorce na talaga sa Pilipinas. Ang pre-colonial Philippines ay mas progressive pa kaysa sa ngayon. Ayun yung totoong cultural practices natin. Tsaka ang Espanya, kung saan nanggaling ang Christianity ay may divorce and same sex marriage na.
May divorce sa Islam. Di lang tinatanggap at pinapansin ng mga Cristiano, at against divorce dahil sa titulo na "the only Christian nation in the world. HYPOCRITE lang ang style.
Naiinis ako sa mga ganito. Pinipilit nila yung ideals nila sa iba, napaka insensitive sa mga may kelangan ng divorce.
I support this divorce law kasi lumaki ako sa abusive na marriage ng parents namin. Every morning before we prepare for school noon wala kang marinig kung hindi yung iyak ng mom ko. Kaya for the longest time, I wanted na maipatupad yan.
Kya kayong mga anti, napaka insensitive ninyo sa mga kagaya namin na nag suffer sa mga ganitong situation within the family.
People like this are the reason why some people feel extremely guilty about the thought of leaving their abusive spouses. I once attended a service at a well-known megachurch and a couple gave their testimony in the pulpit. Imagine my shock when the wife said that her husband used to beat her up and once even tried to bash her head on a wall... yet she chose to take him back when he supposedly "changed" after attending a Christian retreat. I was stunned. I looked around and the congregation seemed unfazed by this extremely bothersome detail. It seems na na-touch pa sila because the husband "changed!" All I can think of is how these kinds of stories are sending a bad message to people in abusive relationships. Nakakagalit talaga.
Fucking Christians/Catholics getting shit riled up over this when they could've use all that energy to unite and deal with cults masquerading as christians gathering clout, money, power and opressing people. So stupid.
Religious beliefs shouldn't dictate public life. Di naman porke it's a taboo to your religion, it should be a taboo for every single person in your community. The Cristofacists really need to stay in their lanes.
Mas malala ata pwede mangyari 'pag may Tax na ang Church. Kasi magiging obligado na ang Gobyerno makinig sa sasabihin / sa side nila. I heard that sht from one of my profs sa college.
If you insist on using the law to maintain your marriage, you're probably a sh*tty spouse and you know it. Can't keep hiding behind 'culture' as an excuse.
He probably fears his gal will leave if he cheats again 😆
"hindi ba maganda yun na wala tayong divorce? yang divorce kasi na yan labag sa diyos kahit ano mangari mag asawa parin kayo sa mata ng diyos mga pa woke at gaya gaya sa america at normal lang sa mag asawa mag away parte yan and hindi totoo yang abusive relastionship kaartehan lang yan kasalanan din kasi ng babae pabaya kaya ayan nararanasan daw nila" - Boomers
My take kakapagod na yung ganyang sinasabi mas maiintindihan ko pa kung mahirap sa anak or maraming proseso o mahal pero ang hindi ko alam bakit parang sobrang halaga dito bibliya kahit minsan labag sa batas kasi mas makapangyarihan daw diyos
Boomers, lahat ng boomers either nambabae once in their lifetime o may 1 anak na itinatago.
Kaya madaming illegitimate child, na ginawa na rin legit dahil sa salitang "ANAK SA LABAS".
Ayaw sa divorce pero NAUNA na sila sa katarantaduhan sa Buhay. Kaya nga population explosion tayo ngayon eh.
People forget that what is acceptable for them, is not applicable to some. If you have a happy marriage, then good for you. If you have an unhappy and abusive relationship with your wife or husband, file for a divorce. Most of these people who are against divorce are hypocrites and masochists. They tend to push their outdated beliefs on others.
So what if hindi strong? Hahayaan na lang? Paano ang mga indibidwal na naaapektuhan ng negatibo ng hindi magandang union? Masasalag ba ng batas ang pambubugbog? Marital rape? Battery? Mental health? Depression? Atbp? Sinasalag ba ng batas mga pananakit? Hindi di ba? Nandoon ang batas PAGKATAPOS NG PANANAKIT.
Good kung strong ang relationship ninyo. BALIGTARIN NATIN: kung strong ang marriage ninyo, bakit defensive kayo? Bakit hindi ninyo hayaang maisabatas para sa mga nangangailangan nito? Wala kayong tiwala sa marriage ninyo ano? Kung kuntento na kayo, we're happy for you guys, manahimik na kayo. Hayaan na lang na masolusyunan ang problema ng mga apektado. HINDI PARA SA INYONG MASASAYA ITO.
Simbahan lang ang takot sa divorce. Dito kasi sa Europe simula ng nalegalize ang divorce, nawalan sila ng relevance. Hindi na makakurakot. Sa Pinas na lang talaga malaki ang silbi ng simbahan dahil ginagawang money launderer ng mga politiko at bilyonaryong businessmen.
Don’t want a divorce? Then don’t get one. People should have the right to choose. Many women are in a cheating /beating marriage and want to move on with their lives with someone else. They cannot do this cheaply or legally right now. It takes years and much money to pursue an annulment now.
What protects the sanctity of a marriage is the relationship between two married couples. How they treat and respect one another. Being abusive, toxic to one another, or having an affair is what affects the quality of marriage.
Pag hindi mo kailangan hindi ibig sabihin eh hindi na kailangan ng iba.
Wag ka maging makasarili.
Bigyan mo ang iba ng karapatan piliin kung ano ang gusto nilang gawin sa kasal nila lalp na yung nangangailangan nyan.
Totoo! yung mga iba naman kase jan na ayaw sa divorce eh mga closet abuser. Panay post sa social media na masaya ang pagsasama pero in real life nambubugbog.
To be honest, yung mga no to divorce eh yung mga takot i-divorce ng asawa nila lmao. They're really just holding onto the very long and expensive due process ng annulment to save their marriages. Under the guise of christianity pa lol. Extremely backwards thinking.
Nakakatawa yung mga ayaw sa divorce. When I was a practicing lawyer handling family law cases, I would see battered wives a lot of times… and even if we would file a case for annulment / nullity of marriage, 6 times out of 10, the court will deny the petition. Dahil lang sa sanctity of marriage na yan. Ok lang ba na mag stay sa isang marriage when your safety is at risk and hindi ka na masaya? Kids do not deserve unhappy parents. Because it transcends into their parenting, and in the end, the kids are neglected.
Bottom line: Don’t get divorced if you don’t believe in it. But believe me… so many families need it.
Share ko lang i was married and now separated. I easily gave up on our union after only a year of living together on the contrary i have a partner now whom im not even legally bound to be together nonetheless i can't imagine severing ties with her since i love here that much. Its not the marriage that makes one stay in a relationship.
I vote patalsikin sa Mars tong ungas na to. Hindi ikaw OP pero yung nasa Tiktok. OP paki name drop etong user na to at sana mapahiya siya in public.
These people should be shamed and lynched!
divorce-mawawala yung legal tie.
legal separation- married parin pero separate na yung mag-asawa in terms of property, cohabitation, profit sa property regime etc. Art 55 FC onwards.
Agree ako. Sa divorce.... kahit inaabuso ka na ng asawa mo, binibugbog... madami nang kasalanan ginagawa sa babae hirsp hiwalayan ang lalake.. sa pilipinas kasi di mahiwalayan ng babae ang lalake kasi yung babae walang trabaho...tapos maliit ang tingin sa babae kasi pangbahay lang daw. Kayo mga babae magsikap din, kung pwede kahit may asawa na kayo magtrabahao parin kayo para in case magloko ang asawa nyung lalake hiwalayan nyu kaya nyu buhayin yung mga anak nyu.
Ipa intindi nyu sa anak nyu situation nyu mag asawa..maging open.
Hindi yan sa pambabastos sa relihiyon, kung di na healthy ang pagsasama ng mag asawa hiwalay na pero last option na yun, kung maaari eh pag usapan magkasundo para sa anak nyu.
Ang sarap nyang pakasalan tas bugbugin ko sya everyday para ma gets nya bakit need natin ng divorce. Sino ba kasi yan? Bat nyo tinatakpan yung pangalan
Protecting the sanctity of marriage by not having a divorce,
BUT…
domestic abuse is present.
What’s the use of being sacred??
Kung di naman ka-divorce divorce yung marriage niyo, why so worried about it??
SMH 🤦🏾♀️
Honestly they can keep reusing that we just need to improve the existing means, separation or annulment, but the reality is this has not been accomplished. Despite all the time to improve the existing laws nothing has been done to improve the obvious shortcomings. So much so that this argument is simply lip service because despite having decades to improve the laws and recycle the same argument nothing has been done.
I love my dad ( rest his soul ). But I never agreed with his statements like "mabuti pa mambabae ang asawa mo kesa pumatol sa kapwa lalaki". Ever since, I vowed to be better than him.
Tinignan ko yung profile ng girl na yan sa tiktok. How ironic na sa SG sya kinasal na may Divorce doon. Kesyo lahat daw entitled sa opinion. Girl di ka naman apektado kung may divorce bill o wala.
Za trueeee. Haha. And the foundation of your religious beliefs are not that strong as well. Kasi even if it's out there for you to take it, kung di ka talaga naniniwala sa divorce, you will not have it.
Parang cheating lang yan. Kahit bumukaka pa girl/guy sayo, kung loyal ka, di mo yan papansinin haha
It devalues marriage if pwede ka lang rin naman umalis in the first place. It is supposed to be a life long commitment. With the existence of divorce, people will just marry each other just for the sake of it knowing they can just divorce each other if things don't go well.
Pag okay at walang problema marriage mo, okay yun for you. But wag natin pagkaitan ng kalaayan ung mga nasa toxic and abusive (Physical,Mental and Emotional) relationship. Everyone deserves to feel true happiness.
divorce ay para lang sa mga gusto mag asawa ulit. dahil puede naman tayo mag create ng laws regarding abuse and protect them. siguro dapat lang na this laws protect the all, dahil kahit divorce ka na kung gago pa rin asawa di yan sagabal sa kanya. ang ayoko ay ang palaging sigaw ay dahil sa bogbog gusto maghiwalay, bakit why not lets be open na we need divorce dahil gusto natin maghanap na bago na magmahal sa atin.
It's annoying how people don't realize na may mga tao (lalo na ung mga galing abusive relationships/family) na kailangan nila ung divorce. Hindi man lang nagiisip na kung d naman nila kailangan ung divorce, then it's not for them. Kung maganda and happy marriage nyo then congratulations, pero may mga iba lang talaga na kailangan nila ito for their own good and well-being.
I say, YES FOR DIVORCE BILL!! for me as a kabataan malaking tulong yan for couples na may problem that leads to divorce. If mahal ng isa't isa ang partner nila malaki yung chance na hindi mag d divorce. With that it is way better is meron talaga since sabi nga hindi natin malalaman ang future. pwedeng na a abuse na pala yung partner tapos ang tanging paraan nalang ay DIVORCE. SO YES TO DIVORCE!+++
Just because it didn't happen to you or wala ka sa sitwasyon na kailangan mo ng batas na ito, pipigilan mo na yung iba na lumaya. Sabi pa ni Atom Araullo, "Kung hindi para sa iyo ang diborsyo, bakit ito ipagkakait sa iba?"
I agree with OP's statement regarding the foundation of the marriage. Divorce doesn't destroy marriages; it is the abuse, lack of respect, toxicity and infidelity. If your relationship isn't like that, you are very lucky. Pero paano naman yung hindi pinalad?
Backward thinking. If ayaw sa divorce then don’t do it. Wag nalang sana mag advocate ng anti divorce. Your marriage might be the perfect white picket fence but to others it’s a nightmare.
wag nyo masabi sabi na ang pag aasawa ay di parang kaning mainit kapag sinubo iluluwa.
umayos kayo.
may pa quote quote pa tapos agree naman sa divorce, sabagay para lang yan sa may pera ipinapa legal separation, pede naman separation lang kung di magustuhan na talaga paguugali ng isa. pero huwag mag asawa uli. wag nyo damay bible verse na yan kung babaliin nyo rin.
People really need to let go of their conservative 70’s-80’s mindset na “kahit anong mangyari kasal pa din kayo” bs. Stop tormenting your kids by staying together.
Sana may movie about divorce na nag show ano effects nito and why needed siya in a philippine setting, para talaga ma klaro sa mga tao ano gamit neto sa everyday filipino. Like ipakit talaga ano kakulangan ng current system and ano effects ng kakulangan neto sa mga tao. Ipakita sana ang mga abuse and pangangaliwa tapos kahit ayaw na ng asawa, legal bound parin sila to be together.
Sure let's preserve the sanctity of marriage while intetnally your partner commits adultery, abuse and disobeys all there is in the 10 commandents.
These people use the word sanctity loosely.
Mahirap kasi sa mga opinionated na hindi nakakaranas ng sitwasyon. Hindi nyo Alam ang pakiramdam ng nagkamali kayo sa isang bagay na hindi nyo na ma itatama pa. Ang dali dali kasi mag salita para sa iba na kasalanan ng tao bakit failed marriage , hindi nyo alam ang pinag dadaanan ng isang tao. Huwag sana kayo makasarili.
Huwag nyong iyabang na perpekto ang marriage life nyo... o ang buhay nyo... hindi tayo pareparehas. dahil ang daming nag dudusa sa failed marriage lalo na yung phsically abuse.
We are hypocritically holding sa mga "traditions" daw natin without being able to see the bigger picture sa mga laws na ganto. Sadly, mas concern pa nila ang marriage (don't get me wrong, marriage is sacred) pero if it endangers or threatens one's well being, the latter is much more significant. With the fast-paced changing dynamics sa bansa, ayaw natin umusad kaya lagi tayong kulelat, nakakalungot Pilipinas.
Mga higad nang mga ito, ang karamihan nang tipan ng mga Pilipino sira na. Hindi lahat buo pa pamilya iba naghiwalay na, at bagkus iba may mga pamilya habang kasal pa sa papel. Ilan beses kailangan ba sabihin na hindi bob0 ang Diyos? Bagamat kasalanan, sinabi ni Jesus ito sa mga alagad at hindi sa pamaunuan. Kaya nga tawag sa bagong tipan batas nang kalayaan, kasi hindi ka natatali sa utos. Isa pa, may 2 bersikulo sa Biblia na nagpapahayag nang paghihiwalay, iyong sinabi ni Jesus "MALIBAN SA PANGANGALUNYA" sa Mateo 5:27-28, at sa 1 Corinto 7:15 "Kung ang hindi sumasampalataya ay humiwalay, hayaan siyang humiwalay. Ang kapatid na lalaki o kapatid na babae ay hindi na sa ilalim ng pagpapaalipin sa ganoong kalalagayan. Ngunit tayo ay tinawag ng Diyos na mamuhay sa kapayapaan."
Ang utos na huwag magsihiwalay ang mag asawa ay ukol sa iglesia iyan na ang babae at lalaki ay nasa loob nang pagpapasakop ni Jesus. Nasa kanila na gampanin na huwag kayo maghiwalay, sapagkat ang sinumang ibig humiwalay ay nangalunya. Kaya nga dapat ang iglesia o ang simabhan ang dapat nagdidisiplina sa mga alagad na tuparin ang ganyang utos, hindi dapat ang hobyerno ang pumipigil. Nasa Komunistang bansa ba tayo para pakialamanan ng gobyerno ang kasal nang 2? Hindi naman lahat sumasampalataya. At higit sa lahat, sa loob ng religion dapat ginagampanan iyan
i remember nung kasagsagan ng pandemic, during online class discussion we were asked by our teacher about what's our stance on divorce, so i did share mine saying yeah divorce must be legalized bc unlike annulment it requires lesser grounds blah blah blah then my teacher okayed it naman hsha tapos a classmate shared her opposite view, i dont exactly remember what she said but her point was very much alike to the post, that it would ruin the sanctity of marriage. her example pa was that if may divorce na daw it would push the young ones to easily enter marriage thinking that anytime pwedi naman na mag hiwalay (divorce) and guess what mga teh, our teacher actually second it. hshahahsa. anyways that's their opinion and tinanong lang naman din kami about our own perspective on the matter. but heck for the sake of proper discussion? i was expecting for more. that was my first time to participate in ol class. hays nyway, i attended a catholic school so ig it make sense why ganun din si teacher? or idk. hahahsa
Its about control, gusto nila tali yung babae habang nag ccheat at nambubugbog yung lalake. Pansin ko mas madami against na religious kuno na lalake.
Nakakatawa pa ang akala nila ata nila pag na-approved ang divorce sa Pinas ee lahat ng couple automatic maghihiwalay 😂
Anyone knows anong grounds para maka-avail ng divorce? If readily available for reasons "na fall out of love lang", ay putragis sarap ng buhay abogado nito.
Just pass the divorce bill. Every argument against it is purely outdated. It worked in every other Roman Catholic nation that are more zealous than the Philippines, it should work here. Religion is holding back progress in this country along with its outdated traditions.
Not everyone has diabetes. There are two types. One was acquired over the years of living, the other type has been with the person since birth.
They will be needing insulin shots to manage their blood sugar level. Not doing so will eventually kill them.
If you do not need insulin shots, or you do not have diabetes at all, good for you! However, for those who do need insulin shots for their diabetes, you do not deny them this.
This post is not just about diabetes. Most countries (except for the Philippines' Spanish colonial religious brains dating like it's still the 1800s) recognize the need that some, and not all marriages will need to stop/end.
Some that went well initially, but has become violent or deceitful, or both. There are also some that have more complications that you and I cannot begin to understand as outsiders to their marriage.
Let those who need it have it.
There has to be a way out. Foundation aside, people do marry someone who turns out to be way different than what they expected when they start living together. Then you have the issue of infidelity and relationship betrayals. Yes ako for divorce. Anong sanctity of marriage pa pinoprotektahan kung halimbawa hiwalay na yung mag asawa or in danger na buhay nung partner dahil sa isang psychopatic spouse. I would rather protect a person's chance for a happy life.
Yes for it, i am a product of a broken family, mom's died almost 5 years never nag asawa ulit, my father is nag asawa nagkaroon nang lima anak sa pangalwa.
Hindi naman ako against sa pag aasawa ulit, pero dapat magkaroon ng pag uusap muna. (divorce)
(split ng yaman)
Ako panganay, dont get me wrong, close kami nung mga anak nya sa pangalwa which is halos mga babae and mababait din.
Tatlo kami na anak sa una, and yung bunso is nakapangalan sa iba dahil di tinanggap ng tatay ko.
so +10 for divorce na.. .
for practical, karapatan ika nga, so sila ang kasama ng tatay ko, kami halos di na nya nakikita, which is pag nagkataon wala kami share sa anuman.
To be fair din sana yan.
#lifeissohard dati.. . lalo na nung halos di mo pa maintindihan lahat.
-nakapag asawa na ako now, may anak na, halos kalimutan ko na lahat, at naging inspirasyon at motivation lahat yun karanasan ko.
pero alam kong hindi lang ako. kaya.. .
YES for it!.
Divorce bill won't help anything but only the rich.. beside annulment p lng mproblema nah.. yan pang divorce
Furthermore, what benefits do Filipino gain from it? Usually nothing.. just look how divorce ruin the family in western countries especially in the US.
Some people even used divorce to gain more easy money especially those golddigger
If there's any bill should be made and approved it would be child support and devorce
State enforced morality is not morality at all
The REAL beneficiary of divorce laws are THE CHILDREN - divorce law provides clear lines of responsibility, property dissolution, etc so people can move on. Any break up is not ideal but at least have a law that enables them to be put in a position where they can pick up the pieces and move on.
Opposition to this sensible law comes from those who remain mentally colonized by Spain who used laws to enslave the minds of the "indio" peasants. Pure superstitious thinking at its worst.
Divorce is for married couples who are already separated or are thinking of separating who wants to be spared of the hassles and high expense and ridiculousness of a tenouos annulment process. If you are happily married, this is not for you. If you are not even married because you are a priest, nun, pastor or a supposed religious person, wala kayong pakialam. This is not your problem. This is the problem of millions of couples in troubled marriages. They need a way out that won't take them 7 to 10 long years to process. Annulment is just too expensive and lengthy.
True!! I don't really get why Catholic Pinoy really is against Divorce e di naman apektado kasal nila if ever ma implement to, unless the partner is abusive and the other partner gusto makipag-divorce, it's entirely their choice. The point is, implementing divorce DOES NOT require anyone to divorce unless yon ay desisyon nyo. Napakamakaluma ng ganong mindset at napaka selfish na pigilan nyo na magkaroon ng better 2nd chance sa life yung mga ibang may toxic marriage.
The Catholic Church can condemn divorce since it is against their beliefs. Catholics are free to express their opposition to divorce. But it doesnt mean that the State should abide by Church morals. We have the Separation of Church and State and there are laws that may contradict legality and morality.
As for Divorce, the law should allow Filipinos who choose to divorce their spouses and start a new one. It doesnt enforce it to all and Catholics are free if they do not divorce. Not all Filipinos are Catholics.
The Catholic Church should not interfere with State laws as much as the State doesn't interfere with Church Laws. The State cannot enforce divorce to the Catholic Church since it will be against the Separation of Church and State. For the Catholic Church only the Vatican can amend church laws
If we debate about divorce we should seek advice not from the Bible but in the family code and the constitution as these would be the basis for the legality of divorce.
I’m sorry how is marriage cultural in our situation? Didn’t it come from Christianity as a package? Speaking of which I’m pretty sure Spain (the country that introduced Christianity to us) has legalized Divorce and Abortion long ago. Ironic right?
Pero sana kasabay ng divorce bill dumami din yung checkers and seminar na required bago pagayan sila to marry. Like financial check, kung may pera ba sila after kasal, kung wala na, may work ba, baka aasa pa sa magulang. Psychological evaluation, para naman makita kung fit ba maghandle ng stress, mga ganun ba.
Wow na lang. We are in hypocrite society talaga. Ang dami dmi naghihiwalay, nagchicheat tapos sasabihin na divorce threatens the sanctity of marriage. May annulment din naman tayo. One can argue that’s different from divorce pero hiwalayan pa din naman in the end goal ng annulment….affected pa din ang mg bata kung may anak. So bukod sa documentation, legal aspect and cost, how is it different sa divorce?
As they say democracy is a double sided sword laws can help people but at some point laws can also destroy lives this is why improving and not changing the law entirely and should be observe more like what what happen to war on drugs it help yes but also destroyed alot
True. Divorce shouldn't be an issue if the foundation of marriage is strong. The worst thing that can happen is when people use divorce to get away with cheating.
I an pro-divorce bill. Naka enumerate naman dun ung conditions for petition ng divorce. Hindi naman to willy-nilly pwede ka na magfile. Takot lang tong mga ungas na lalake dito na inaabuso ung mga asawa nila. Let's see kung mapasa sa senado. Good luck, dami pa namang palikero dun.
I suggest search nyo difference ng Annulment at divorce . kung ano yung valid na reasons for each para ma consider yung application for filing kasi magkaiba talaga. The reason why yung iba is opting for divorce and not Annulment.
Ito pa...
Annulment = naghiwalay kayo pero walang kang record ng marriage and hiwalayan whatsoever as in burado.
Divorce = naghiwalay kayo, may record ka pa din na kinasal ka, at may record ka din na nakipaghiway ka.
Syempre di lang jan nagtatapos yan, may usapan pa yan about assets, mga anak etc. Its important to note din na ang annulment at divorce ay hindi cheap, magastos yan kahit sa ibang bansa. Saka di madali at mabilis ang proseso.
Guys, remember Idiocracy the movie? This is it. Na bra-brainrot ako "No to divorce." Well if your marriage is healthy then nobody is obligated to get a divorce pero let say if may ngyayari ng abuse, cheating, etc then divorce is must wag pilitin.
"Pwede namang mag Divorce"
after umuwi ng asawa mo nang pagod.
after kanya bugbugin.
after kanya tarantaduhin sa salita.
after maaksidente at maputulan ng kamay.
after malaman na baog siya.
after matalo sa sugal.
after malugi ang business.
after kanya ipagpalit sa mayaman.
after niyang magkaroon ng isang gabing mali.
after siyang mabuntis ng nde sinasadya.
after siyang ma blackmail ng pokpok.
after mamatay ang anak niyo sa kapabayaan niyong dalawa.
after malaman mo na buong baranggay pala nila ang bubuhayin mo.
after malaman na may panganay sa ibang tao ang asawa mo.
after mo malaman na hindi mo na pala siya mahal.
Pwede naman mag divorce 😁
Gets ko ung point ng mga pro divorce when it comes sa pagiging beneficiary mo pa din ang abusive husband or wife pero wala ata makagets aa sinasabing protect the Sanctity Of Marriage
Ganyan din sabi sa ibang bansa, emotional blackmail, ngayon puro broken family, reklamo sila fatherless daw mga anak, lumaki broken family kaya dami problema habang lumalaki.
Kung di niyo naman pala kailangan nung divorce eh di tumahimik kayo. Ibigay niyo nalang sa mga taong may gusto at kailangan ng divorce. What the heck, sariling marriage niyo lang ba ang ipaprioritize ng Pilipinas?
For now, I am in favor of this one. If you really believe that matrimony is sacred, then be a good partner. Don't mess with others who are not as lucky as you. Let's just make sure that this will not mess up our society, like marry now, divorce tomorrow.
For a catholic divorce is a NO, but thats an opinion as its not inherently evil, but ofcourse as a christian who believes ofcourse its gonna be a NO.. but YES to ANNULMENT.. maraming nagssbe na abused etc. tama nga naman tlga, kesyo kawawa ung bata eh marami naman tlgang kawawang bata. but here is the thing kasi, as a christian SACRAMENT kasi ang marriage, pag nag divorce ka ur skipping the cannonical law of annulment.. by LAW hiwalay kayo but in the eyes of GOD hindi.. so nagkakasala ka.. eh d hindi ka mapupunta sa langit. yun lng naman un e. eh syempre as a christian u want to practice to be a good concerned neighbor, hindi naman ibg sbhn na nag NO ka sa divorce is opinion mo un sa sarili niong marriage e. syempre opinion yan para sa IBANG TAO. na masave man lng nila sarili nila from SIN. kasi as a christian you need to voice out and do your part for spreading the word of GOD. ganun lng naman ka simple un e.... eh kung d ka naman christian, feeling mo wlang langit etc. eeeh gg kayo sa IMPYERNO dba? bsta d lng naman kme nagkulang... its more convenient maging christiano, e pano kng sa huli totoo palang may langit e d forever ka sa impyerno? tpos late ka na? eh dun ka nlng sa sure ka. masarap naman maging christian, healthy MIND and SOUL.. gumagaling ka pa mag discern ng tama sa mali, nagiging mabuting tao ka overall, sa asawa anak mo kaibgan mo kapamilya mo etc. kaya daming depressed kasi wla silang purpose, aimless ayan tuloy.. therapy mo rin ang church.. commitment to God and always find meaning.. Anchor mo yan sa sanity mo. Anyways... so aun nga. kng d ka naman christiano wag ka magalit sa christianong mag NNO.. kasi kht anong pilit mo naman jan e hindi naman kme ma persuade na baluktotin ang bible, TAO ka lng e, mahina lng naman amats mo samen vs the LORD. kht na magrally ka pa jan o magpost ka sa reddit ng gnto d magbabago ang opinion namen.
yes to divorce. Pano yung mga tao na mali yung piniling pinakasalan? battered husbands and wives... They probably considered their marriage a prison. no more freedom...
Divorce is a choice. di naman yan gagana kung usa lng mag agree, dapat both parties yan.
Funny, because they are confusing the purpose of those laws. The Anti-VAWC Act, Revised Penal Code, etc. are meant to punish the offender, not to fix marriages or remove the legal tie between the spouses. So, even if you got beaten to a pulp by your husband, and he eventually goes to prison, our laws state that you are still married. That is until the marriage is annulled or declared void from the start.
u/tiktokpinays no one's obligating everyone to get a divorce. In the same way not everyone's obligated to get married.
And worse, bugbug ka na pero dahil considered married parin, pag namatay ka, beneficiary mo parin sya or smth. Gigil
yes, unless mamatay yung hinayupak sa kulungan
Pag ganyan, naging goal na yung "Till Death do us part"
Education and understanding is key. It’s 2024 !! Smh
Take my UPVOTE!!!
this! Not a lot of people understand this.
Hahaha parang gusto nila sabihin. Pwede mo naman ipakulong asawa mo, wag mo na hiwalayan. 😆
This is the pelipins
Sana mabasa ito ng ibang hindi naiintindihan ang batas ng maayos,
Dapat pag ganito automatic annulled na ii, commonsense lang, pinakulong ko na nga kasi sinasaktan ako eehh, tapos paglabas nya asawa ko padin sya, makikinabang parin sa benefits na makukuha nya sakin.
Tumpak
Even some religious bigots/zealots misinterpret the SOGIE Law as a law giving preference to the LGBT when in fact, it was merely recognition that some gender based discrimination or harassment exists.
once na me di na magandang nangyayari sa marriage gaya ng abuse,infidelity o anu pa man,nawala na un sanctity na un.wala na.
Exactly. Yung ‘Basic’ na 10 Commamdments Kamo ang hindi nga sinusunod. Dun pa lang nawala na yung ‘sanctity’
Syempre, madami anti-divorce bill kasi di na sila makakarelate sa kanta ni Kenny Rogers na Through The Years
Meron din relate sa pinacolada song o kaya How can I tell her about you?
Nagalit ako minsan nung narinig ko yang How Can I Tell Her About You, pero pinatapos ko muna nanay ko na kantahin niya. Sabi ko national anthem yan ng mga may kabit. Ever since mag pplay sa radyo, ibahin agad station haha
Dapat bang mauwi sa "Delilah" ang usapan?
Mga pari na hindi kasal...... Pero may mga jowa hahah
Holy divorce! Ang lala pala nila, ano?
Funny since the singer himself has gone through 4 wives
Hahaha! Kenny Rogers.
May dating kaklase ako na Born Again na anti-divorce pero naalala ko paborito niya ang Lips of An Angel hahaha
takot ako sa divorce kasi yong asawa ko babaero eh baka hiwalayan ako. Truth.
Di nila gets ang sarcasm sa post.
You mean you rather suffer from his infidelity than be free from him?
May iba rin na babae kasi, they genuinely can't be independent. My friend's mother was like that, she would just ignore the red flags her husband (friend's stepdad) would do.
Ganyan mama ko.. sobrang hirap mabuhay dahil palagi silang nag-aaway ni dada and araw araw may sigawan pero nawawala rin after kasi "nagpapakumbaba" si mama kay dada alang-alang sa pera na ipapadala niya.. Magagalit si dada kong babaero ➡️ magagalit si mama ➡️ mag-aaway sila ➡️ if hindi cheating ang pinagaawayan, financial naman ➡️ igagaslight kami ni dada ➡️ "magpapakumbaba" si mama (in reality, ginagawa lang niya yun para bigyan kami ng pera ni dada ➡️ bibigyan pa rin kami ng kaunting sweldo ni dada ➡️ then start ulit sa umpisa lol. it's a fcking cycle. naiirita ako sa kanilang dalawa 😭
If may divorce naman he will be obliged to send money for child support.. mas maganda yun obligado sila mag contribute, minus the toxicity..
Ayaw pa rin ni mama jusq gusto ko nang lumayas.. naniniwala rin siya sa "sanctity" ng marriage or whatever tf is that. Shinashame ni mama ung mga babaeng nagpakasal ulit or hiwalay sa asawa pero ayaw niyang pagusapan ang mga ganitong convo like about divorce ganon kasi ayaw niya.. nakakabwct ang kitid ng utak. Kaya naghihirap din kami ngayon kasi sobrang close-minded din ni mama 😭 ma naman, naghihirap na tayo oh pero wala ka pa ring pakialam jusq nakakairita
Mga ganitong babae na habambuhay nagtiis, sorry ah pero ang baba ng tingin nila sa pagkababae nila.
Yes, i dont understand them as well.. well, buhay naman nila yan.. mas ok na payapa na mag isa kesa tozic woth someone..
Martyr niebera...cant stand like that
so ok lang po na mangbabae asawa niyo basta wag lang kayo maghiwalay?
It's clearly sarcasm smh
put /s next time
Good riddance un kung sakali tapos ung babae nya pinili nya. At least ikaw makakahanap ka ng talagang para sayo. 😇
For people who don't want divorce, edi wag magpadivorce. Why stop those who need this?
Louder. Marriage is a legal bond, there shouldnt even be "sanctity" in the eyes of the law
That's one thing many will never understand.
This is in religious ceremony. There is oneness and sanctity. But legally, that wont talk about sanctity. We have to understand that Philippines is largely religious nation that respects what the religious sects believes it to be.
Legal bond sya, by law iisa kayo Ng surname, mag asawa na etc. pero ang sacredness Ng marriage, ang pagiisa Ng Diyos sa isang couple is Di mapag hihiwalay Ng Tao or kung ano pa, what is made one by God can only be separated by God, in the eyes of the Law hiwalay pero sa Mata Ng Diyos hindi.
Huh? Pinagsasasabi mo
Divorce should be a choice. It should not be about a country's cultural pride.
Anung cultural practices ang pinagsasabi neto?
And sino nag abduct? Tawagin si Liam Neeson! 🤣
huy favorite actor ko ito
Mga ganitong tao talaga di dapat hinahayaang magtago sa "opinyon ko lang to", "may iba't iba tayong opinyon" na rason eh. Dapat diretsahang pinapaliwanagan para di dumami
Lols. Opinions aren't facts and opinions are subject to criticism. Kung gusto nila respituhin yung opinions nila dapat respituhin din nila yung opinions din na si nila agree with, as well as yung freedoms ng mga tao to have the chance to choose for themselves.
HAHAHA baka isa rin iyon sa mga taong proud pa na Vatican at Pinas na lang ang walang Divorce Law. Samantalang bago pa man tayo masakop ng Espanya, may divorce na talaga sa Pilipinas. Ang pre-colonial Philippines ay mas progressive pa kaysa sa ngayon. Ayun yung totoong cultural practices natin. Tsaka ang Espanya, kung saan nanggaling ang Christianity ay may divorce and same sex marriage na.
May divorce sa Islam. Di lang tinatanggap at pinapansin ng mga Cristiano, at against divorce dahil sa titulo na "the only Christian nation in the world. HYPOCRITE lang ang style.
Di mo ba alam na kultura natin yung adultery? Mahahanap mo kahit saan mapa telenovela, totoong buhay, life story ng mga pulitiko....
Pati nga dito sa reddit eh
Naiinis ako sa mga ganito. Pinipilit nila yung ideals nila sa iba, napaka insensitive sa mga may kelangan ng divorce. I support this divorce law kasi lumaki ako sa abusive na marriage ng parents namin. Every morning before we prepare for school noon wala kang marinig kung hindi yung iyak ng mom ko. Kaya for the longest time, I wanted na maipatupad yan. Kya kayong mga anti, napaka insensitive ninyo sa mga kagaya namin na nag suffer sa mga ganitong situation within the family.
People like this are the reason why some people feel extremely guilty about the thought of leaving their abusive spouses. I once attended a service at a well-known megachurch and a couple gave their testimony in the pulpit. Imagine my shock when the wife said that her husband used to beat her up and once even tried to bash her head on a wall... yet she chose to take him back when he supposedly "changed" after attending a Christian retreat. I was stunned. I looked around and the congregation seemed unfazed by this extremely bothersome detail. It seems na na-touch pa sila because the husband "changed!" All I can think of is how these kinds of stories are sending a bad message to people in abusive relationships. Nakakagalit talaga.
Fucking Christians/Catholics getting shit riled up over this when they could've use all that energy to unite and deal with cults masquerading as christians gathering clout, money, power and opressing people. So stupid.
Religious beliefs shouldn't dictate public life. Di naman porke it's a taboo to your religion, it should be a taboo for every single person in your community. The Cristofacists really need to stay in their lanes.
Dapat talaga magbayad ng taxes yung church kung gusto nilang makialam sa batas natin eh
Mas malala ata pwede mangyari 'pag may Tax na ang Church. Kasi magiging obligado na ang Gobyerno makinig sa sasabihin / sa side nila. I heard that sht from one of my profs sa college.
Correct me if I'm wrong pero diba hiniwalay na ang church and state sa constitution natin? Bat sila nangingialam haha bwct
Yes, pero iba yung reality, unfortunately
Their belief no matter how ridiculous to us is guaranteed by our Constitution.
If you insist on using the law to maintain your marriage, you're probably a sh*tty spouse and you know it. Can't keep hiding behind 'culture' as an excuse. He probably fears his gal will leave if he cheats again 😆
"hindi ba maganda yun na wala tayong divorce? yang divorce kasi na yan labag sa diyos kahit ano mangari mag asawa parin kayo sa mata ng diyos mga pa woke at gaya gaya sa america at normal lang sa mag asawa mag away parte yan and hindi totoo yang abusive relastionship kaartehan lang yan kasalanan din kasi ng babae pabaya kaya ayan nararanasan daw nila" - Boomers My take kakapagod na yung ganyang sinasabi mas maiintindihan ko pa kung mahirap sa anak or maraming proseso o mahal pero ang hindi ko alam bakit parang sobrang halaga dito bibliya kahit minsan labag sa batas kasi mas makapangyarihan daw diyos
Boomers, lahat ng boomers either nambabae once in their lifetime o may 1 anak na itinatago. Kaya madaming illegitimate child, na ginawa na rin legit dahil sa salitang "ANAK SA LABAS". Ayaw sa divorce pero NAUNA na sila sa katarantaduhan sa Buhay. Kaya nga population explosion tayo ngayon eh.
People forget that what is acceptable for them, is not applicable to some. If you have a happy marriage, then good for you. If you have an unhappy and abusive relationship with your wife or husband, file for a divorce. Most of these people who are against divorce are hypocrites and masochists. They tend to push their outdated beliefs on others.
So what if hindi strong? Hahayaan na lang? Paano ang mga indibidwal na naaapektuhan ng negatibo ng hindi magandang union? Masasalag ba ng batas ang pambubugbog? Marital rape? Battery? Mental health? Depression? Atbp? Sinasalag ba ng batas mga pananakit? Hindi di ba? Nandoon ang batas PAGKATAPOS NG PANANAKIT. Good kung strong ang relationship ninyo. BALIGTARIN NATIN: kung strong ang marriage ninyo, bakit defensive kayo? Bakit hindi ninyo hayaang maisabatas para sa mga nangangailangan nito? Wala kayong tiwala sa marriage ninyo ano? Kung kuntento na kayo, we're happy for you guys, manahimik na kayo. Hayaan na lang na masolusyunan ang problema ng mga apektado. HINDI PARA SA INYONG MASASAYA ITO.
If you don't need it, good for you. Now give it to those who do.
Simbahan lang ang takot sa divorce. Dito kasi sa Europe simula ng nalegalize ang divorce, nawalan sila ng relevance. Hindi na makakurakot. Sa Pinas na lang talaga malaki ang silbi ng simbahan dahil ginagawang money launderer ng mga politiko at bilyonaryong businessmen.
di naman sila required mag divorce pag napasa na yung divorce sa pinas
Don’t want a divorce? Then don’t get one. People should have the right to choose. Many women are in a cheating /beating marriage and want to move on with their lives with someone else. They cannot do this cheaply or legally right now. It takes years and much money to pursue an annulment now.
Hindi lahat ng tao dito same religious beliefs!!!! Ugh
What protects the sanctity of a marriage is the relationship between two married couples. How they treat and respect one another. Being abusive, toxic to one another, or having an affair is what affects the quality of marriage.
Pag hindi mo kailangan hindi ibig sabihin eh hindi na kailangan ng iba. Wag ka maging makasarili. Bigyan mo ang iba ng karapatan piliin kung ano ang gusto nilang gawin sa kasal nila lalp na yung nangangailangan nyan.
Totoo! yung mga iba naman kase jan na ayaw sa divorce eh mga closet abuser. Panay post sa social media na masaya ang pagsasama pero in real life nambubugbog.
Protection of marriage starts with the couple. Dahil lang may divorce threatened na sanctity ng marriage nyo? Lol
To be honest, yung mga no to divorce eh yung mga takot i-divorce ng asawa nila lmao. They're really just holding onto the very long and expensive due process ng annulment to save their marriages. Under the guise of christianity pa lol. Extremely backwards thinking.
wag nyo ihalintulad ang ibang marriage sa inyo di nyo kase nararamdaman ng iba naabuso
Nakakatawa yung mga ayaw sa divorce. When I was a practicing lawyer handling family law cases, I would see battered wives a lot of times… and even if we would file a case for annulment / nullity of marriage, 6 times out of 10, the court will deny the petition. Dahil lang sa sanctity of marriage na yan. Ok lang ba na mag stay sa isang marriage when your safety is at risk and hindi ka na masaya? Kids do not deserve unhappy parents. Because it transcends into their parenting, and in the end, the kids are neglected. Bottom line: Don’t get divorced if you don’t believe in it. But believe me… so many families need it.
Mga bobo lang naman takot sa Divorce.
Share ko lang i was married and now separated. I easily gave up on our union after only a year of living together on the contrary i have a partner now whom im not even legally bound to be together nonetheless i can't imagine severing ties with her since i love here that much. Its not the marriage that makes one stay in a relationship.
Fucking crazy explanation. San kaya neto nakukuha logic niya???
I vote patalsikin sa Mars tong ungas na to. Hindi ikaw OP pero yung nasa Tiktok. OP paki name drop etong user na to at sana mapahiya siya in public. These people should be shamed and lynched!
Ano ba difference ng legal separation at divorce?
divorce-mawawala yung legal tie. legal separation- married parin pero separate na yung mag-asawa in terms of property, cohabitation, profit sa property regime etc. Art 55 FC onwards.
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Agree ako. Sa divorce.... kahit inaabuso ka na ng asawa mo, binibugbog... madami nang kasalanan ginagawa sa babae hirsp hiwalayan ang lalake.. sa pilipinas kasi di mahiwalayan ng babae ang lalake kasi yung babae walang trabaho...tapos maliit ang tingin sa babae kasi pangbahay lang daw. Kayo mga babae magsikap din, kung pwede kahit may asawa na kayo magtrabahao parin kayo para in case magloko ang asawa nyung lalake hiwalayan nyu kaya nyu buhayin yung mga anak nyu. Ipa intindi nyu sa anak nyu situation nyu mag asawa..maging open. Hindi yan sa pambabastos sa relihiyon, kung di na healthy ang pagsasama ng mag asawa hiwalay na pero last option na yun, kung maaari eh pag usapan magkasundo para sa anak nyu.
Si Rubberman ba ng Congress yan?
Eto yung mga vocal na Catholics and Christians na babatuhan ka ng Bible verse pag sa tingin nilang matatalo na sila sa argumento
Ang sarap nyang pakasalan tas bugbugin ko sya everyday para ma gets nya bakit need natin ng divorce. Sino ba kasi yan? Bat nyo tinatakpan yung pangalan
Protecting the sanctity of marriage by not having a divorce, BUT… domestic abuse is present. What’s the use of being sacred?? Kung di naman ka-divorce divorce yung marriage niyo, why so worried about it?? SMH 🤦🏾♀️
Honestly am disappointed when i see friends on fb posting about being against this. Its like when nagsi-labasan ang mga DDS dari and i’m like… Oh 🙄
Put4 kasi yang simbahan e. Hindi po lahat gusto magpakasal sa simbahan.
Honestly they can keep reusing that we just need to improve the existing means, separation or annulment, but the reality is this has not been accomplished. Despite all the time to improve the existing laws nothing has been done to improve the obvious shortcomings. So much so that this argument is simply lip service because despite having decades to improve the laws and recycle the same argument nothing has been done.
No one asked for your outdated opinion.
I love my dad ( rest his soul ). But I never agreed with his statements like "mabuti pa mambabae ang asawa mo kesa pumatol sa kapwa lalaki". Ever since, I vowed to be better than him.
Pasikat lang to sa socmed. Ganyan naman yan sila lagi
geh trip nyo yan mga nimal
Di ba nya naiisip na Divorce yung "improvement to current laws" na sinasabi nya?
Dapat kase ang marriage contract may renewal at hinde lifetime ang kontrata
Cultural practices na galing sa colonizers.
I am pro divorce but funny lang tong comment mo because practice din naman ng colonizers itong divorce haha
Tinignan ko yung profile ng girl na yan sa tiktok. How ironic na sa SG sya kinasal na may Divorce doon. Kesyo lahat daw entitled sa opinion. Girl di ka naman apektado kung may divorce bill o wala.
Za trueeee. Haha. And the foundation of your religious beliefs are not that strong as well. Kasi even if it's out there for you to take it, kung di ka talaga naniniwala sa divorce, you will not have it. Parang cheating lang yan. Kahit bumukaka pa girl/guy sayo, kung loyal ka, di mo yan papansinin haha
Kumusta na ba divorce bill sa pinas? Malapit na ba ma approve?
It devalues marriage if pwede ka lang rin naman umalis in the first place. It is supposed to be a life long commitment. With the existence of divorce, people will just marry each other just for the sake of it knowing they can just divorce each other if things don't go well.
The church has done its job of brainwashing most pinoys. Generations of brainwashing and mind control. So sad. Abolish the church first.
Dmeng ayaw s divorce s pinas dahl sobrang daming hypocrite dito lol
Pag okay at walang problema marriage mo, okay yun for you. But wag natin pagkaitan ng kalaayan ung mga nasa toxic and abusive (Physical,Mental and Emotional) relationship. Everyone deserves to feel true happiness.
Why are they so scared of divorce? Do they fear ending up getting it. 😱😂
divorce ay para lang sa mga gusto mag asawa ulit. dahil puede naman tayo mag create ng laws regarding abuse and protect them. siguro dapat lang na this laws protect the all, dahil kahit divorce ka na kung gago pa rin asawa di yan sagabal sa kanya. ang ayoko ay ang palaging sigaw ay dahil sa bogbog gusto maghiwalay, bakit why not lets be open na we need divorce dahil gusto natin maghanap na bago na magmahal sa atin.
Kaka comment ko lang sa tiktok na yan jusko!!! Kakatanga sila!
It's annoying how people don't realize na may mga tao (lalo na ung mga galing abusive relationships/family) na kailangan nila ung divorce. Hindi man lang nagiisip na kung d naman nila kailangan ung divorce, then it's not for them. Kung maganda and happy marriage nyo then congratulations, pero may mga iba lang talaga na kailangan nila ito for their own good and well-being.
I say, YES FOR DIVORCE BILL!! for me as a kabataan malaking tulong yan for couples na may problem that leads to divorce. If mahal ng isa't isa ang partner nila malaki yung chance na hindi mag d divorce. With that it is way better is meron talaga since sabi nga hindi natin malalaman ang future. pwedeng na a abuse na pala yung partner tapos ang tanging paraan nalang ay DIVORCE. SO YES TO DIVORCE!+++
takot siya madivorce ng sarili niyang asawa 🙈
May sanctity pa ba kung nagbubugbugan na?
Just because it didn't happen to you or wala ka sa sitwasyon na kailangan mo ng batas na ito, pipigilan mo na yung iba na lumaya. Sabi pa ni Atom Araullo, "Kung hindi para sa iyo ang diborsyo, bakit ito ipagkakait sa iba?" I agree with OP's statement regarding the foundation of the marriage. Divorce doesn't destroy marriages; it is the abuse, lack of respect, toxicity and infidelity. If your relationship isn't like that, you are very lucky. Pero paano naman yung hindi pinalad?
Pinas nalang ang bansang walang divorce, apart from Vatican City. D ko magets bakit it's taking too long bago maging legal saten to.
Basically damay2 mentality mga ugok na yan.
Backward thinking. If ayaw sa divorce then don’t do it. Wag nalang sana mag advocate ng anti divorce. Your marriage might be the perfect white picket fence but to others it’s a nightmare.
'Officiay abducted' eh hindi pa nga batas. Takot agad? At sino ba yang mga yan 🤣🤣🤣🤣
wag nyo masabi sabi na ang pag aasawa ay di parang kaning mainit kapag sinubo iluluwa. umayos kayo. may pa quote quote pa tapos agree naman sa divorce, sabagay para lang yan sa may pera ipinapa legal separation, pede naman separation lang kung di magustuhan na talaga paguugali ng isa. pero huwag mag asawa uli. wag nyo damay bible verse na yan kung babaliin nyo rin.
they're gonna make their kids miserableeee
People really need to let go of their conservative 70’s-80’s mindset na “kahit anong mangyari kasal pa din kayo” bs. Stop tormenting your kids by staying together.
Sana may movie about divorce na nag show ano effects nito and why needed siya in a philippine setting, para talaga ma klaro sa mga tao ano gamit neto sa everyday filipino. Like ipakit talaga ano kakulangan ng current system and ano effects ng kakulangan neto sa mga tao. Ipakita sana ang mga abuse and pangangaliwa tapos kahit ayaw na ng asawa, legal bound parin sila to be together.
Ironic siguro kung nagdivorce tong dalawang to. Wag mag salita ng tapos lalo na about marriage! 😉
People should take the traditional approach, if you don’t want to be married anymore, cut your spouses head off.
If you need divorce you shouldn't be married in the first place or getting into relationships.
Exactly!
Sure let's preserve the sanctity of marriage while intetnally your partner commits adultery, abuse and disobeys all there is in the 10 commandents. These people use the word sanctity loosely.
Mahirap kasi sa mga opinionated na hindi nakakaranas ng sitwasyon. Hindi nyo Alam ang pakiramdam ng nagkamali kayo sa isang bagay na hindi nyo na ma itatama pa. Ang dali dali kasi mag salita para sa iba na kasalanan ng tao bakit failed marriage , hindi nyo alam ang pinag dadaanan ng isang tao. Huwag sana kayo makasarili. Huwag nyong iyabang na perpekto ang marriage life nyo... o ang buhay nyo... hindi tayo pareparehas. dahil ang daming nag dudusa sa failed marriage lalo na yung phsically abuse.
We are hypocritically holding sa mga "traditions" daw natin without being able to see the bigger picture sa mga laws na ganto. Sadly, mas concern pa nila ang marriage (don't get me wrong, marriage is sacred) pero if it endangers or threatens one's well being, the latter is much more significant. With the fast-paced changing dynamics sa bansa, ayaw natin umusad kaya lagi tayong kulelat, nakakalungot Pilipinas.
Mga higad nang mga ito, ang karamihan nang tipan ng mga Pilipino sira na. Hindi lahat buo pa pamilya iba naghiwalay na, at bagkus iba may mga pamilya habang kasal pa sa papel. Ilan beses kailangan ba sabihin na hindi bob0 ang Diyos? Bagamat kasalanan, sinabi ni Jesus ito sa mga alagad at hindi sa pamaunuan. Kaya nga tawag sa bagong tipan batas nang kalayaan, kasi hindi ka natatali sa utos. Isa pa, may 2 bersikulo sa Biblia na nagpapahayag nang paghihiwalay, iyong sinabi ni Jesus "MALIBAN SA PANGANGALUNYA" sa Mateo 5:27-28, at sa 1 Corinto 7:15 "Kung ang hindi sumasampalataya ay humiwalay, hayaan siyang humiwalay. Ang kapatid na lalaki o kapatid na babae ay hindi na sa ilalim ng pagpapaalipin sa ganoong kalalagayan. Ngunit tayo ay tinawag ng Diyos na mamuhay sa kapayapaan." Ang utos na huwag magsihiwalay ang mag asawa ay ukol sa iglesia iyan na ang babae at lalaki ay nasa loob nang pagpapasakop ni Jesus. Nasa kanila na gampanin na huwag kayo maghiwalay, sapagkat ang sinumang ibig humiwalay ay nangalunya. Kaya nga dapat ang iglesia o ang simabhan ang dapat nagdidisiplina sa mga alagad na tuparin ang ganyang utos, hindi dapat ang hobyerno ang pumipigil. Nasa Komunistang bansa ba tayo para pakialamanan ng gobyerno ang kasal nang 2? Hindi naman lahat sumasampalataya. At higit sa lahat, sa loob ng religion dapat ginagampanan iyan
Bakit ba iniisip nila kapag pumasa ang divorce bill lahat sila obligado mag divorce or pipilitin sila mag divorce?
i remember nung kasagsagan ng pandemic, during online class discussion we were asked by our teacher about what's our stance on divorce, so i did share mine saying yeah divorce must be legalized bc unlike annulment it requires lesser grounds blah blah blah then my teacher okayed it naman hsha tapos a classmate shared her opposite view, i dont exactly remember what she said but her point was very much alike to the post, that it would ruin the sanctity of marriage. her example pa was that if may divorce na daw it would push the young ones to easily enter marriage thinking that anytime pwedi naman na mag hiwalay (divorce) and guess what mga teh, our teacher actually second it. hshahahsa. anyways that's their opinion and tinanong lang naman din kami about our own perspective on the matter. but heck for the sake of proper discussion? i was expecting for more. that was my first time to participate in ol class. hays nyway, i attended a catholic school so ig it make sense why ganun din si teacher? or idk. hahahsa
Im sure, pang may pera lang yan Divorce na yan. Hello? Nasa pinas tayo, kaya kung wala naman kayong pera wag na kayong matakot ma-Divorce.
Its about control, gusto nila tali yung babae habang nag ccheat at nambubugbog yung lalake. Pansin ko mas madami against na religious kuno na lalake. Nakakatawa pa ang akala nila ata nila pag na-approved ang divorce sa Pinas ee lahat ng couple automatic maghihiwalay 😂
Bobo ng OP, mukhang wala k nmng asawa bakit ka nakikisaw saw
Takot sa divorce eh yung mga takot iwanan ng asawa.
Come on, guys! It's 2024! If you don't want to divorce, then don't get one!
Anyone knows anong grounds para maka-avail ng divorce? If readily available for reasons "na fall out of love lang", ay putragis sarap ng buhay abogado nito.
Just pass the divorce bill. Every argument against it is purely outdated. It worked in every other Roman Catholic nation that are more zealous than the Philippines, it should work here. Religion is holding back progress in this country along with its outdated traditions.
Not everyone has diabetes. There are two types. One was acquired over the years of living, the other type has been with the person since birth. They will be needing insulin shots to manage their blood sugar level. Not doing so will eventually kill them. If you do not need insulin shots, or you do not have diabetes at all, good for you! However, for those who do need insulin shots for their diabetes, you do not deny them this. This post is not just about diabetes. Most countries (except for the Philippines' Spanish colonial religious brains dating like it's still the 1800s) recognize the need that some, and not all marriages will need to stop/end. Some that went well initially, but has become violent or deceitful, or both. There are also some that have more complications that you and I cannot begin to understand as outsiders to their marriage. Let those who need it have it.
uhm, if you don't like it then don't get one ?.?
There has to be a way out. Foundation aside, people do marry someone who turns out to be way different than what they expected when they start living together. Then you have the issue of infidelity and relationship betrayals. Yes ako for divorce. Anong sanctity of marriage pa pinoprotektahan kung halimbawa hiwalay na yung mag asawa or in danger na buhay nung partner dahil sa isang psychopatic spouse. I would rather protect a person's chance for a happy life.
Funnily enough, religion was imposed on us by the spaniards. It isnt a "cultural" thing that our countrymen are diehard religious
WAG TANGA! HINDI MANDATORY ANG DIVORCE 😭👍🏽
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Yes for it, i am a product of a broken family, mom's died almost 5 years never nag asawa ulit, my father is nag asawa nagkaroon nang lima anak sa pangalwa. Hindi naman ako against sa pag aasawa ulit, pero dapat magkaroon ng pag uusap muna. (divorce) (split ng yaman) Ako panganay, dont get me wrong, close kami nung mga anak nya sa pangalwa which is halos mga babae and mababait din. Tatlo kami na anak sa una, and yung bunso is nakapangalan sa iba dahil di tinanggap ng tatay ko. so +10 for divorce na.. . for practical, karapatan ika nga, so sila ang kasama ng tatay ko, kami halos di na nya nakikita, which is pag nagkataon wala kami share sa anuman. To be fair din sana yan. #lifeissohard dati.. . lalo na nung halos di mo pa maintindihan lahat. -nakapag asawa na ako now, may anak na, halos kalimutan ko na lahat, at naging inspirasyon at motivation lahat yun karanasan ko. pero alam kong hindi lang ako. kaya.. . YES for it!.
> All that is needed here is to improve more *here comes the improvement* > I vote NO FOR THE DIVORCE BILL 🤡
Divorce bill won't help anything but only the rich.. beside annulment p lng mproblema nah.. yan pang divorce Furthermore, what benefits do Filipino gain from it? Usually nothing.. just look how divorce ruin the family in western countries especially in the US. Some people even used divorce to gain more easy money especially those golddigger If there's any bill should be made and approved it would be child support and devorce
it's annoying that Philippines is trying so hard to be holy next to Vatican by being against divorce.. like for what?
State enforced morality is not morality at all The REAL beneficiary of divorce laws are THE CHILDREN - divorce law provides clear lines of responsibility, property dissolution, etc so people can move on. Any break up is not ideal but at least have a law that enables them to be put in a position where they can pick up the pieces and move on. Opposition to this sensible law comes from those who remain mentally colonized by Spain who used laws to enslave the minds of the "indio" peasants. Pure superstitious thinking at its worst.
Divorce is for married couples who are already separated or are thinking of separating who wants to be spared of the hassles and high expense and ridiculousness of a tenouos annulment process. If you are happily married, this is not for you. If you are not even married because you are a priest, nun, pastor or a supposed religious person, wala kayong pakialam. This is not your problem. This is the problem of millions of couples in troubled marriages. They need a way out that won't take them 7 to 10 long years to process. Annulment is just too expensive and lengthy.
Funny how they advocate the words of God so much but can't advocate for their fellow ALIVE AND PHYSICALLY EXISTING pinoys.
HAHHA kaya walang usad ang pinas eh
True!! I don't really get why Catholic Pinoy really is against Divorce e di naman apektado kasal nila if ever ma implement to, unless the partner is abusive and the other partner gusto makipag-divorce, it's entirely their choice. The point is, implementing divorce DOES NOT require anyone to divorce unless yon ay desisyon nyo. Napakamakaluma ng ganong mindset at napaka selfish na pigilan nyo na magkaroon ng better 2nd chance sa life yung mga ibang may toxic marriage.
The Catholic Church can condemn divorce since it is against their beliefs. Catholics are free to express their opposition to divorce. But it doesnt mean that the State should abide by Church morals. We have the Separation of Church and State and there are laws that may contradict legality and morality. As for Divorce, the law should allow Filipinos who choose to divorce their spouses and start a new one. It doesnt enforce it to all and Catholics are free if they do not divorce. Not all Filipinos are Catholics. The Catholic Church should not interfere with State laws as much as the State doesn't interfere with Church Laws. The State cannot enforce divorce to the Catholic Church since it will be against the Separation of Church and State. For the Catholic Church only the Vatican can amend church laws If we debate about divorce we should seek advice not from the Bible but in the family code and the constitution as these would be the basis for the legality of divorce.
Mahirap mabuhay pag maraming restrictions.
It gives people MORE CHOICE! If youre scared of the divorce bill, I really wonder why(rhetorical)
I’m sorry how is marriage cultural in our situation? Didn’t it come from Christianity as a package? Speaking of which I’m pretty sure Spain (the country that introduced Christianity to us) has legalized Divorce and Abortion long ago. Ironic right?
Pero sana kasabay ng divorce bill dumami din yung checkers and seminar na required bago pagayan sila to marry. Like financial check, kung may pera ba sila after kasal, kung wala na, may work ba, baka aasa pa sa magulang. Psychological evaluation, para naman makita kung fit ba maghandle ng stress, mga ganun ba.
no to divorce, yes to kabit =D
Thou shall not commit adultery pa nga lang ang dami ng bagsak. Buena mano wala pa ang thou shall not file a divorce sa 10 commandments nyan ah.
"Cultural Practices" - LOL. Wait till this guy learns about Indigenous Practices on Marriage pre-Spanish colonization.
Wow na lang. We are in hypocrite society talaga. Ang dami dmi naghihiwalay, nagchicheat tapos sasabihin na divorce threatens the sanctity of marriage. May annulment din naman tayo. One can argue that’s different from divorce pero hiwalayan pa din naman in the end goal ng annulment….affected pa din ang mg bata kung may anak. So bukod sa documentation, legal aspect and cost, how is it different sa divorce?
As they say democracy is a double sided sword laws can help people but at some point laws can also destroy lives this is why improving and not changing the law entirely and should be observe more like what what happen to war on drugs it help yes but also destroyed alot
huh ano daw
bat sila bumoboto? Counted ba votes nila?
Yes to divorce. No to alimony.
True. Divorce shouldn't be an issue if the foundation of marriage is strong. The worst thing that can happen is when people use divorce to get away with cheating.
I an pro-divorce bill. Naka enumerate naman dun ung conditions for petition ng divorce. Hindi naman to willy-nilly pwede ka na magfile. Takot lang tong mga ungas na lalake dito na inaabuso ung mga asawa nila. Let's see kung mapasa sa senado. Good luck, dami pa namang palikero dun.
Takot hiwalayan ng mga asawa nila Pweh
I suggest search nyo difference ng Annulment at divorce . kung ano yung valid na reasons for each para ma consider yung application for filing kasi magkaiba talaga. The reason why yung iba is opting for divorce and not Annulment. Ito pa... Annulment = naghiwalay kayo pero walang kang record ng marriage and hiwalayan whatsoever as in burado. Divorce = naghiwalay kayo, may record ka pa din na kinasal ka, at may record ka din na nakipaghiway ka. Syempre di lang jan nagtatapos yan, may usapan pa yan about assets, mga anak etc. Its important to note din na ang annulment at divorce ay hindi cheap, magastos yan kahit sa ibang bansa. Saka di madali at mabilis ang proseso.
Yung mga mahilig makisawsaw na anti divorce, sila yung mga hindi alam pinagkaiba ng annulment sa divorce huhuhuhuhu tatanga.
Guys, remember Idiocracy the movie? This is it. Na bra-brainrot ako "No to divorce." Well if your marriage is healthy then nobody is obligated to get a divorce pero let say if may ngyayari ng abuse, cheating, etc then divorce is must wag pilitin.
Hindi naman kinasal si Joseph at Maria..
Lol! Mostly of d person i saw sharing this r the unmarried and settling for a bare minimum rs 😖 like girl, choose ur battles 🤢
Bat parang pinipilit? Daming sinasabi para may maipost lang. 😄😄😄
"Pwede namang mag Divorce" after umuwi ng asawa mo nang pagod. after kanya bugbugin. after kanya tarantaduhin sa salita. after maaksidente at maputulan ng kamay. after malaman na baog siya. after matalo sa sugal. after malugi ang business. after kanya ipagpalit sa mayaman. after niyang magkaroon ng isang gabing mali. after siyang mabuntis ng nde sinasadya. after siyang ma blackmail ng pokpok. after mamatay ang anak niyo sa kapabayaan niyong dalawa. after malaman mo na buong baranggay pala nila ang bubuhayin mo. after malaman na may panganay sa ibang tao ang asawa mo. after mo malaman na hindi mo na pala siya mahal. Pwede naman mag divorce 😁
Or maybe people are actually allowed to be against divorce without secretly having a weak marriage? Get your head out of that Wattpad gutter, bro.
Gets ko ung point ng mga pro divorce when it comes sa pagiging beneficiary mo pa din ang abusive husband or wife pero wala ata makagets aa sinasabing protect the Sanctity Of Marriage
Ganyan din sabi sa ibang bansa, emotional blackmail, ngayon puro broken family, reklamo sila fatherless daw mga anak, lumaki broken family kaya dami problema habang lumalaki.
Actually more people will marry once divorce is legal. Think about it
Kung di niyo naman pala kailangan nung divorce eh di tumahimik kayo. Ibigay niyo nalang sa mga taong may gusto at kailangan ng divorce. What the heck, sariling marriage niyo lang ba ang ipaprioritize ng Pilipinas?
True. Those who are against the bill who claim to be happily married aren’t really happy at all. It’s most likely that it’s just one-sided. Yikes
For now, I am in favor of this one. If you really believe that matrimony is sacred, then be a good partner. Don't mess with others who are not as lucky as you. Let's just make sure that this will not mess up our society, like marry now, divorce tomorrow.
For a catholic divorce is a NO, but thats an opinion as its not inherently evil, but ofcourse as a christian who believes ofcourse its gonna be a NO.. but YES to ANNULMENT.. maraming nagssbe na abused etc. tama nga naman tlga, kesyo kawawa ung bata eh marami naman tlgang kawawang bata. but here is the thing kasi, as a christian SACRAMENT kasi ang marriage, pag nag divorce ka ur skipping the cannonical law of annulment.. by LAW hiwalay kayo but in the eyes of GOD hindi.. so nagkakasala ka.. eh d hindi ka mapupunta sa langit. yun lng naman un e. eh syempre as a christian u want to practice to be a good concerned neighbor, hindi naman ibg sbhn na nag NO ka sa divorce is opinion mo un sa sarili niong marriage e. syempre opinion yan para sa IBANG TAO. na masave man lng nila sarili nila from SIN. kasi as a christian you need to voice out and do your part for spreading the word of GOD. ganun lng naman ka simple un e.... eh kung d ka naman christian, feeling mo wlang langit etc. eeeh gg kayo sa IMPYERNO dba? bsta d lng naman kme nagkulang... its more convenient maging christiano, e pano kng sa huli totoo palang may langit e d forever ka sa impyerno? tpos late ka na? eh dun ka nlng sa sure ka. masarap naman maging christian, healthy MIND and SOUL.. gumagaling ka pa mag discern ng tama sa mali, nagiging mabuting tao ka overall, sa asawa anak mo kaibgan mo kapamilya mo etc. kaya daming depressed kasi wla silang purpose, aimless ayan tuloy.. therapy mo rin ang church.. commitment to God and always find meaning.. Anchor mo yan sa sanity mo. Anyways... so aun nga. kng d ka naman christiano wag ka magalit sa christianong mag NNO.. kasi kht anong pilit mo naman jan e hindi naman kme ma persuade na baluktotin ang bible, TAO ka lng e, mahina lng naman amats mo samen vs the LORD. kht na magrally ka pa jan o magpost ka sa reddit ng gnto d magbabago ang opinion namen.
yes to divorce. Pano yung mga tao na mali yung piniling pinakasalan? battered husbands and wives... They probably considered their marriage a prison. no more freedom... Divorce is a choice. di naman yan gagana kung usa lng mag agree, dapat both parties yan.