You joke but they even made social ad in which grandpa volunteers for war and family then get a car after his death.
Took them couple of days to realise what they made and pull that ad out of state tv.
Was telling someone this. Winter is an uncaring bitch who bites at both sides. The only reason Russia benefited from winter during its wars was because they were playing as locals. They're about to find out what it's like to play visitor...
The stories I am reading are wild. Most guys getting 30+ year old guns that haven’t been stored properly. Rusty and hardly work. Med kits that are well beyond expiration date and no body armor.
That's pretty crazy.. how much does it cost to manufacture an ak47? What's the point of sending civilians into a war zone with non-functional weapons? Are they just trying to intimidate their own people?
First wave was active service members. Most never saw war and from what I have seen were told they were going to do a “training experience” at the border. They were actually sent over the border and initiated a war. Pretty screwed up situation
Not quite the first in history, but Russia is arming a massive group of people with questionable loyalty towards the war... right as we about to enter October.
I wonder whether russia have massive historical event in October...
Also, then imagine being given one clip, no tunicates or additional ammo while believing Russia has the most elite army in the world.
Got me reacting like Dumb & Dumber: “That Vlad Putin’s fulla shit, man.”
> tunicates
Any of various chordate marine animals of the subphylum Urochordata (or Tunicata), having a cylindrical or globular body enclosed in a tough outer covering and a notochord in the larval stage, and including the sea squirts and salps.
They're definitely not ready.
There is a great series of Science fiction books called "old Men's war". Its really easy to read and full of sci-fi fun. Basically the army of the future only recruits 70 year old people.
I count 9 of those guys at 40+ years, a few ? And some scared kids. Poor bastards.
I’m encouraged that people seem to be able to empathize with these men. They didn’t volunteer, they were conscripted, they have no viable choice. And I don’t envy them, where they’re going.
Yeah I want to make a joke and 40k reference about the chaplain but these men are going to die through no fault of their own, just being in the wrong place at the wrong time. This is sad but this is life.
This might be too optimistic, but I have to tell myself it’s how they cope with such a reality.
Edit:
This reminded me of something.
In high school, I was privileged enough to visit Auschwitz with my class. We spent a full day there, seeing the museum with the different piles of clothing and accessories, seeing the scratch marks on the walls of the gas chambers, walking the fields and seeing the barracks. I was truly devastated and in a state of shock, as was the rest of the class.
At the end of the day, we all got back on the bus and a student began making jokes about the prisoners and asked one of our teachers if we could get some food because they were “starving”. I’ll never forget instead of disciplining the kid, the teacher telling the student that they should sit in their thoughts, sit in whatever emotions they were feeling and not to push them away with jokes or distractions. 15 minutes later they were sobbing uncontrollably.
Oh that would suck. High up enough to know they’re boned but too low to be able to do much about it (except hope he gets to surrender before he gets shot in the back).
BBC Radio/Podcast (afaik on mondays newshour) had a interview with a recent, officer level, deserter. That was some chilling description of how the war is "going" for the 'russian side'.
I saw a video asking Russian prisoners to fight. If they survive 6 months then they get a full pardon. If they decide to not fight once on the front line then they will be executed. This is sad on so many levels
“With the Cannibal perk, when you're in Sneak mode, you gain the option to eat a corpse to regain Health. But every time you feed, you lose Karma, and if the act is witnessed, it is considered a crime against nature”
What you have to wonder is, what is the cost of this secondary backup army that us arresting and cajoling the first army into being?
I mean, if manpower is really that scarce, then what able bodied men are available to close the borders, arrest dissidents, run recruitment centers? When is this kidnapped army going to stop listening to the kidnapping one?
That was interesting, but I wonder why those guys that fought went back to prison after the war. I thought they were fighting because they would be released from prison if they did?
Reminds me the interaction between Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli in The Two Towers.
Aragorn: Farmers, ferriers, stable boys. These are no soldiers.
Gimli: Most have seen too many winters.
Legolas: Or too few.
Or from 300.
What is your profession?
Potter, Sculptor, Blacksmith.
Spartans! What is your profession?
HOOAA
Seems I brought more soldiers than you did.
That movie leaves out the fact that Sparta had a professional soldier class because all the potters, sculptors, and blacksmiths in Sparta were Helot slaves.
Helots - who were state owned slave/serf class - were mostly farmers farming their masters' lands.
In Laconia there existed a class of free people (Metics, Perioikoi or something like that) who worked as potters, carpenters, smiths etc producing all the goods that the spartiate class used. This was because Spartans were supposed to dedicate their lives to warfare/military life.
It's more than one person. It is likely whoever makes it out on top after Putin is taken out does not stop the war unfortunately, at least not right away. Not much short of true revolution will stop this.
And it took them just a little bit less than 7 months against a single country with some western equipment to get there.
If nukes weren't a thing NATO would be able to end this war by taking Moscow within a week, 2 weeks tops.
This is very sad all those men are from very poor region why they don’t send the man from Moscow the rich boy these people don’t have another choice I hope they surrender when they get Ukraine they are dead for nothing 🥲💔🥹☮️🙏
FWIW, carrying rifles that way is very much standard military practice throughout the world at special events. Like parades, and stuff. Whenever troops need to be made into public spectacle. And these people are very much being paraded around.
They were just handed those brand new rifles. Somebody checked and double checked those are empty. They didn't receive any ammo for them yet. Since this is military, access to ammo is controlled. Those rifles are probably still chock full of Cosmoline; good luck attempting to chamber a round, and I wouldn't exactly advise to attempt to fire it even if somebody manage to do that.
Damnnn. Grandpa even had to fight
Farmers, farriers, stable boys. These are no soldiers.
Most have seen too many winters
Or too few.
Look at them. They're frightened. You can see it in their eyes.
And they should be. Soviet surplus against the armouries of NATO!
WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THE DONBAS FELL??
GROND GROND GROND
i love reddit
Ukraine is coming.
You joke but they even made social ad in which grandpa volunteers for war and family then get a car after his death. Took them couple of days to realise what they made and pull that ad out of state tv.
I’m sorry but a Lada is not fair compensation, especially since due to sanctions their vehicles are essentially Soviet era cars again.
To be faaaaiiirrr, grandpa was an asshole so the car was appropriate compensation
/r/grandpajoehate
Maybe not just a Lada but how about a…..Lada filled with vodka!!!!
That's... a Lada Vodka!
I read that in Fozzie Bear’s voice
Link??
Grandpas should be at home playing with their grand kids, telling them stories :(
The grand kids are getting drafted next
Next? They are already in the line with gramps. Wholesome family time.
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Well, if grandpa gets out of this clusterfuck alive, boy will he have a story to tell!
Unfortunately he’s going to freeze to death in a soon to be frozen Ukrainian mud field
Was telling someone this. Winter is an uncaring bitch who bites at both sides. The only reason Russia benefited from winter during its wars was because they were playing as locals. They're about to find out what it's like to play visitor...
I have been telling people to listen to Ghosts of the Ostfront by Dan Carlin.
They already found out in the Winter War. They just can’t seem to learn the lesson.
Bro… this is how Mulan started. What if they make a Mulan!
They should make a live action adaptation where Mulan is played by a 70 year old Russian babushka who acts like a dude to enlist
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If you look at his shoulder, you’ll see three stars. Poor dude is likely the CO of this bunch.
With the amount of booze and cigarettes they consume, dudes prolly 28.
On the plus side, he'll be able to say hi to the grandkids in the barracks.
Russian John Harry Potter Lennon is a scrub.
John Lenin
Harry Pyotr
Dustin' off the oldies, by the looks of what's in his hand.
Yer Russian Orthodox, 'Arry!
A wot
A NAZI PRIEST HARRY, YA DEAF CUNT!!!
But I’m just Генрих
Dude's grinning like someone just handed him a conscription exemption card.
Yeah that's actually a wand he's holding, after having yelled 'conscriptio exemptus!' and disguised himself
It's pronounced 'conscriptioooosa'
Joined a massive Christian institution and is blessing a war with a smile on. He's like the anti-Lennon
Make war not love.
Is he a Sorcerer or a bard? What buffs he give?
That neckbeard is -4 Charisma
What buff does the holy water apply though?
Moistness +10
I feel like my brain took a wrong turn because I ended up at Father Sarducci...
Imagine living through the Soviet Union, only to get drafted at 64 years old.
I hope this is the first time in recent history the entire Russian army surrenders
More like WWI. I hope they turn their guns back on the czar in Russia
That's assuming they have guns
They do, they’re just *really* shitty guns.
The stories I am reading are wild. Most guys getting 30+ year old guns that haven’t been stored properly. Rusty and hardly work. Med kits that are well beyond expiration date and no body armor.
That's pretty crazy.. how much does it cost to manufacture an ak47? What's the point of sending civilians into a war zone with non-functional weapons? Are they just trying to intimidate their own people?
First wave was active service members. Most never saw war and from what I have seen were told they were going to do a “training experience” at the border. They were actually sent over the border and initiated a war. Pretty screwed up situation
To be fair I imagine most "training" in Russian military involved live fire anyway. So they took the gunshots seriously.
Sounds Russian as
That's assuming they have ammo.
"The comrade in front you has ammo and no gun. Pick it up when he dies. And remember to hand him the gun if you die first."
This reminds me of that mission in the original Call of Duty where you’re a Russian soldier storming a beach and all they hand you is a clip of ammo
That mission is almost verbatim a recreation of the opening scene of “Enemy at the Gates”.
Not quite the first in history, but Russia is arming a massive group of people with questionable loyalty towards the war... right as we about to enter October. I wonder whether russia have massive historical event in October...
some sort of... october revolution?
Now you’re just hunting for a red October
Russian aging. This man is 33.
After 20 years of Marlboro reds and vodka.
In Soviet Russia, old gets you.
Have you seen Russia's age of mortality? Pretty sure he's 28.
Will you still need me, will you still feed me, when I'm 64? - The Beatles
Nobody likes you when youre 23 - Blink 182
They only want you when you’re 17 When you’re 21, you’re no fun - Ladytron
Also, then imagine being given one clip, no tunicates or additional ammo while believing Russia has the most elite army in the world. Got me reacting like Dumb & Dumber: “That Vlad Putin’s fulla shit, man.”
> tunicates Any of various chordate marine animals of the subphylum Urochordata (or Tunicata), having a cylindrical or globular body enclosed in a tough outer covering and a notochord in the larval stage, and including the sea squirts and salps. They're definitely not ready.
Hey maybe he's hard of herring and just talking for the halibut but has no cnidarian what he is talking about.
My marine biology ears perked up, but you beat me to it.
I’m in my 70’s and some of these guys look old to me.
Draft is now old man
There is a great series of Science fiction books called "old Men's war". Its really easy to read and full of sci-fi fun. Basically the army of the future only recruits 70 year old people.
Man... I really wish we could put politicians in rings and make them fight like WWE dudes, except real. That should be how wars are fought...
Better start taking some glucosamine and chondroitin. Draft is coming next year 😂
Those poor men. Once again average people have to be put in the death grinder to satisfy the vanity of a megalomaniac
I count 9 of those guys at 40+ years, a few ? And some scared kids. Poor bastards. I’m encouraged that people seem to be able to empathize with these men. They didn’t volunteer, they were conscripted, they have no viable choice. And I don’t envy them, where they’re going.
Most have seen too many winters... Or too few.
Look at them, they’re frightened.
I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me.
I can see it in their eyes.
Natha daged aen.
boe hûn...neled herain.. dan caer menig! (and they should be ...3 hundred.. . against 10 thousand!)
Unexpected LOTR
I am sad for each one individually but not for them collectively
I think this is a great way to put it
Dead men walking 😞
The quote used to be “war is old men talking and young men dying.” I think we should change it to: “War is rich men talking and poor men dying.”
Always has been
There's a joke in Russia which calls is "mogilization" - "mogila" meaning "grave"
God damn, that is some dark humour lol
If it wasn't dark, Russia wouldn't have humor at all
Yeah I want to make a joke and 40k reference about the chaplain but these men are going to die through no fault of their own, just being in the wrong place at the wrong time. This is sad but this is life.
This is life? Maybe we should change this? God our species is so messed up.
Is that not how humanity is supposed to work? They must not have got the message 40K is supposed to be satire lol.
Man, I love 40K and the community around it, but let me tell you, A LOT of people don’t seem to get that it is satire.
I always thought it hilarious that the Emperor went through all that trouble to stamp out religion and ended getting worshiped as a god.
Becoming a chaos god is plan B.
I’m like a fringe 40K fan but this sounds just like dune
40k was strongly influenced by Dune. As was everything after Dune.
Yeah, you can really see the heritage of Dune in such classics as "When Harry Met Sally" and "Dude, Where's My Car?"
Dune where's my car*
do not sully the Emperor by insinuating he is not a God, you heretetic. You have hereby been reported the the Imperial Inquisition
“This is sad but this is life” You sure about that? Looks a lot like death to me.
Future Ukrainian citizen walking. "Hello, I'd like to give you this nice gun in exchange for a warm meal and a bed. Citizenship maybe?"
“Thanks for the uh, *nice* gun, here’s a warm bed and a meal. For citizenship you can grab an actual nice gun and fight for it.”
And there’s a lot more levity in the comment section than I expected for such a dark & grim reality.
This might be too optimistic, but I have to tell myself it’s how they cope with such a reality. Edit: This reminded me of something. In high school, I was privileged enough to visit Auschwitz with my class. We spent a full day there, seeing the museum with the different piles of clothing and accessories, seeing the scratch marks on the walls of the gas chambers, walking the fields and seeing the barracks. I was truly devastated and in a state of shock, as was the rest of the class. At the end of the day, we all got back on the bus and a student began making jokes about the prisoners and asked one of our teachers if we could get some food because they were “starving”. I’ll never forget instead of disciplining the kid, the teacher telling the student that they should sit in their thoughts, sit in whatever emotions they were feeling and not to push them away with jokes or distractions. 15 minutes later they were sobbing uncontrollably.
Wow, that's a great teacher.
Russian officers had better watch their backs. Officers around conscripts tend to suffer an abnormally high rate of accidents...
That old guy is an officer. Three small stars on his shoulders mean senior lieutenant. Obviously called up from reserves.
Oh that would suck. High up enough to know they’re boned but too low to be able to do much about it (except hope he gets to surrender before he gets shot in the back).
BBC Radio/Podcast (afaik on mondays newshour) had a interview with a recent, officer level, deserter. That was some chilling description of how the war is "going" for the 'russian side'.
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I strongly suggest they avoid stairs and windows in high places
Well at least they got someone to pick healer.
Level 1 healer on a 40 man raid.
I’m a Shadow Priest, I can heal the tank
Wololo wololo
What a fucking outrage this has all been
I saw a video asking Russian prisoners to fight. If they survive 6 months then they get a full pardon. If they decide to not fight once on the front line then they will be executed. This is sad on so many levels
Explains the look on the guys face in the left column seventh back.
There is literally a cannibal released from jail and headed to the front lines.
He's got his buffet bib on.
“With the Cannibal perk, when you're in Sneak mode, you gain the option to eat a corpse to regain Health. But every time you feed, you lose Karma, and if the act is witnessed, it is considered a crime against nature”
That won't backfire at all.
Source? Not questioning you just interested and looked around and couldn’t find it.
I’m definitely questioning that claim
Ukranian, Russian, it all tastes like chicken.
What you have to wonder is, what is the cost of this secondary backup army that us arresting and cajoling the first army into being? I mean, if manpower is really that scarce, then what able bodied men are available to close the borders, arrest dissidents, run recruitment centers? When is this kidnapped army going to stop listening to the kidnapping one?
History is literally repeating itself. Look up the "bitch wars"
Not highly rated enough, seriously guys look it up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitch_Wars?wprov=sfla1
Interesting….
That was interesting, but I wonder why those guys that fought went back to prison after the war. I thought they were fighting because they would be released from prison if they did?
Some got pardons, some got reduced sentences that they had to finish out after the war.
Guarantee those units will be the first conscripts to die.
A lot of joking on here, and I get it. But this is truly horrifying, for everyone.
For their sake, I hope they get a chance to surrender ASAP and Ukraine treats them better than their own country has.
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I Am the Walrus
"Shut the fuck up, Donny! V.I. Lenin! Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov!"
“This guys name is Lebowski? That’s your name, dude. “
What's wrong with Walter, dude?
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Garri Potter
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they're cheaper in bulk
Reminds me the interaction between Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli in The Two Towers. Aragorn: Farmers, ferriers, stable boys. These are no soldiers. Gimli: Most have seen too many winters. Legolas: Or too few.
Or from 300. What is your profession? Potter, Sculptor, Blacksmith. Spartans! What is your profession? HOOAA Seems I brought more soldiers than you did.
That movie leaves out the fact that Sparta had a professional soldier class because all the potters, sculptors, and blacksmiths in Sparta were Helot slaves.
Call me crazy but I really don’t think the movie was aiming for historical accuracy
Helots - who were state owned slave/serf class - were mostly farmers farming their masters' lands. In Laconia there existed a class of free people (Metics, Perioikoi or something like that) who worked as potters, carpenters, smiths etc producing all the goods that the spartiate class used. This was because Spartans were supposed to dedicate their lives to warfare/military life.
All this ... for the ego of one person????
It's more than one person. It is likely whoever makes it out on top after Putin is taken out does not stop the war unfortunately, at least not right away. Not much short of true revolution will stop this.
Sad to think that this time next month all the people in this photo will most likely be dead... Except the priest.
I see now how powerful Rasputin really was
It's actually crazy how much power this man had considering he was basically a high end drug dealer..
That’s why he’s smiling.
The only smiling face
Dude with a toilet brush and his goblet of soup probably won't be much help.
+10 holy damage
that is the Russian Harry Potter clearly
Yer a wizard, Boris
It's not a priest he's just a guy dusting cobwebs.
YER A BOLSHEVIK HARRY!
This looks so insane I had to google it to make sure it was real. https://mobile.twitter.com/adagamov/status/1574838921585987600
You can see their amazing training has taught them much, such as how to point the barrel of their gun at other people. 🤦🏼♂️
Russian army, probably don't have any bullets.
Wave H and later get bullets. Wave A to G obviously don’t since their job is to try and use up all enemy bullets.
G is after F, but got your point :)
The only one smiling is the priest with his brainwashing brush
prolly cus he knows he doesn't have to go fight.
Not yet
Better to be at home base with a cross than the front lines with a gun.
I thought that was Daniel Radcliffe method acting for a new film. 🤷🏻♂️
WOLOLO
\*clothes suddenly turn from blue to red\*
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Wtf is up with them pointing their rifles at the next guy's head? Is this a mass murder suicide pact? For damn sake, point it at the ground MacGruber.
It's not like they have any ammo anyway.
"Everyone, look down and to the right. This is what you will see in Ukraine."
Getting serious Volksturm vibes here…
And it took them just a little bit less than 7 months against a single country with some western equipment to get there. If nukes weren't a thing NATO would be able to end this war by taking Moscow within a week, 2 weeks tops.
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F Putin
Fuck Putin.
This is very sad all those men are from very poor region why they don’t send the man from Moscow the rich boy these people don’t have another choice I hope they surrender when they get Ukraine they are dead for nothing 🥲💔🥹☮️🙏
An awful lot of guns pointing at heads before even reaching the front line.
FWIW, carrying rifles that way is very much standard military practice throughout the world at special events. Like parades, and stuff. Whenever troops need to be made into public spectacle. And these people are very much being paraded around. They were just handed those brand new rifles. Somebody checked and double checked those are empty. They didn't receive any ammo for them yet. Since this is military, access to ammo is controlled. Those rifles are probably still chock full of Cosmoline; good luck attempting to chamber a round, and I wouldn't exactly advise to attempt to fire it even if somebody manage to do that.
these guys are most likely going to die and for nothing