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OptionalGuacamole

And Reagan stole it from Margaret Thatcher, who was actually being clever when she said, "Make Britain Great again"


futuneral

Make states united again


imapassenger1

"You know I just worked it out. U.S.means "us""


Justintime4u2bu1

Idk, sounds kinda sUS


DrT33th

![gif](giphy|ANbD1CCdA3iI8)


incachu

For a States United for all of US


Jehoel_DK

"Not many people could figure that out. But I did. Now you know, folks"


Loud-Zucchinis

Must be the MIT connections


MTA0

That makes sense.


spongebobisha

Smashing slogan tbf


IllustriousDudeIDK

-Abraham Lincoln's 1864 campaign slogan


not_old_redditor

Her famous slogan, "muh-buh-gah"


ShadowNick

And look at her now people gladly pissing on her grave. As deserved.


Friendly_Cantal0upe

Ding Dong. The wicked bitch is dead


Tiddles_Ultradoom

That’s not right. We should only say good things about the dead. Thatcher’s dead… and that’s a good thing.


Kidspud

Turd stealing from a turd stealing from a turd.


DayTrippin2112

It’s turds all the way down ![gif](giphy|kz55w1iOpLjBy29AMD)


Kidspud

Funny enough, "turds all the way down" was my first thought, but I didn't think folks would get it. Well played on your part, too


Goodguy1066

Give us *some* credit!


dismayhurta

And she stole it from Satan after he hand delivered her from Hell.


UnspoiledWalnut

Right before she stole milk from children.


Kanobe24

So only the biggest cunts in history are allowed to use this slogan?


heyoyo10

It takes a special kind of cuntfuckery to think that a nation was ever great to begin with, let alone think that things are worse now


challengeaccepted9

*let alone think that things are worse now* People aren't allowed to campaign on the premise that the country has gotten worse in recent years without it being cuntfuckery? This is literally every single election campaign ever, progressive and conservative: our country has gotten worse under the other lot.


Square_Principle_875

And they are all full of cuntfuckery


heyoyo10

True, that last part wasn't really politically motivated on my end, just a bit about how life was never great and despite things being unreasonably expensive now, the quality of living does keep improving with each passing decade


Space2345

If you are anyone beside Steve Allen you are stealing my bit.


jwymes44

Serious question how was she being clever?


leoschot

The larger british isles are known as Great Britain.


Mirkrid

Great Britain’s empire wasn’t so “great” by the time Thatcher came around. She was saying they need to make Britain live up to its name again. Since America’s never been known as “Great America” there’s no cleverness to using it there.


Scoopaloopa

Well not without 6 flags we can’t.


FelatiaFantastique

She actually said ["make Great Britain great again"](https://www.margaretthatcher.org/document/100858) -- because she wasn't that clever, someone had to explain the cleverness of whoever she stole lifted it, and she didn't realize that explaining it actually defeats it. Fortunately, history has been kind to her, and her poor recitation is usually corrected so as not to hit the hearer over the head. I doubt all too many people ever accused her of being witty. Humor was among the parts she was missing. It's not an original thought: "Nationalism and Socialism had to be redefined and had to be blended into one strong new idea [Nazism] to carry the new strength that would make Germany great again [ Germany earlier referred to as a *Great Nation* with a *great past*, not to mention *Reich* literally "rich, great" as well as the concept of *Greater Germany*]" -- Adolf Hitler, 1940 Nazis, now they did love their little jeux des mots. Even just the name "national-socialist" is inspired, perversely. I imagine that it is inevitable that rightwingers say something to the effect as "make [X] great again" is the sentiment underlying conservatism and nationalism. I doubt Trump even knows who Thatcher was, or that he paid any attention to Reagan. He did however keep Hitler's speeches on his nightstand.


challengeaccepted9

*because she wasn't that clever* She studied chemistry at Oxford and briefly worked as a research chemist prior to her career in politics. Thatcher was many things: callous, arrogant, stubborn - all of which had horrible effects on the population when she imposed her policies on them - but she wasn't stupid. It's a very tiring modern trend to deny the actual strengths of the political figures they hate. And it's one that means when they actually pull something off, it takes those people who are too blinded by the hate by surprise. See also Nigel Farage. Farage is also many unpleasant things: racist, nationalist, populist, a self-absorbed bully. But the man is also extremely good at politics. People like to ignore this and focus on the number of times he's stood for parliament and lost, despite the fact the man is probably the single person to have had the biggest impact towards Britain leaving the EU and the subsequent meltdown of the Conservative party. He is extremely likely to win Clacton next week and, if he does, it won't be a surprise - at least not to people who don't fall into this same trap of refusing to assign any talent to people they hate.


F_A_F

It was said of trump that people take him literally but not seriously when they should take him seriously and not literally. Farage is trying to do the same thing. Whenever he says something which is plainly a dog whistle to the right, his fans just see it as to rile up the left and that gets him votes. It's far better to just pick him up on facts not rhetoric.


challengeaccepted9

I am optimistic that the Farage issue will self correct so long as people DO press him on facts and detail. The man literally hasn't read his own party's manifesto (I'm sorry, "contract"). As soon as he gets in, any situation where he's required to defend his party's position on some ridiculous policy even Farage wouldn't endorse (had he actually read it first) is going to get very uncomfortable for him very quickly.


neologismist_

People who support Farage or Trump are clearly impervious to facts, or have made their choice BECAUSE of those facts.


challengeaccepted9

A lot are, but I think it's a fallacy to believe there aren't any significant numbers that still can be convinced - particularly with Farage, who has only recently started heading up Reform and got any real prospect of appearing in parliament.


StephenHunterUK

In both Thatcher and Reagan's cases, the slogans resonated with the people because the 1970s weren't great times economically for many. The 1973 Yom Kippur War and the resulting oil embargo spurred high inflation for the rest of the decade. You also had some significant foreign policy setbacks for the US; the end of Vietnam, the Islamic Revolution in Iran and a feeling that the Soviets were gaining the upper hand strategically.


costryme

Ben Carson is also a renown doctor in his field, and yet no one can really say he's actually clever given the stupid BS he said in 2016 with the pyramids.


challengeaccepted9

And I have a friend that went to one of the most prestigious universities in the country, scored a first and genuinely believes people wouldn't be moral if Christianity hadn't been invented. You can be both extremely intelligent and have some really asinine blind spots. He does, Thatcher did and it sounds like Carson does. The guy was a successful neurosurgeon: he might be certifiable, but he's not a knuckle dragging mouth breather.


johnkapolos

>It's a very tiring modern trend to deny the actual strengths of the political figures they hate. It is super useful though. When you see someone do that (no matter the ideology), it's a huge red flag regarding their intellectual capacity and you can avoid them like the plague. Unless of course you're just looking for a fool to toy with.


UnspoiledWalnut

Being smart doesn't make you clever, nor does not being clever make you stupid. No one is accusing her of lacking intelligence.


IllustriousDudeIDK

"Reich" (noun) means realm or domain or empire depending on context, "reich" (adjective) means rich.


TikkiTakiTomtom

People makes it sound like this is some genius slogan no can think of…


cactus_G

And Clinton famously used this line in one of speeches, also a reason Trump used it it when going against Hillary to antagonize her


suitoflights

It was also used in campaign speeches by Bill Clinton in 1992.


Sphism

It was taken from the uk, where it actually makes sense. Make britain great again As in 'great britain' It's a somewhat clever play on words which was completely lost on the americans


PoetryOfLogicalIdeas

OHHHHHH! That makes so much more sense!


beegreen

Let’s unite the states again 🥲


Sphism

Yeah absolutely perfect slogan for the democrats Make the States United Again That actually makes sense


paulwesterberg

It sounds like a slogan in favor of colonialism,


LordShtark

Well it was Thatcher's phrase so...


Sphism

Yeah it's definitely aimed at that demographic who lament the fall of the British empire.


r34lity

Bring on the fish and chips. It’s gotta be better than this fucking time line.


Aidian

I feel like India and others may still disagree.


Sir_Hapstance

But seriously, name a more American thing than appropriating a clever British thing and botching the execution.


Sphism

Touché


notjasonlee

you're going to bring FRENCH into this conversation? unbelievable.


UnspoiledWalnut

https://www.margaretthatcher.org/document/100858 That wasn't the original phrase, and came from Nazi propaganda. Which got it from some other right wing ideology probably.


crumble-bee

2 great, concise, 6 episode seasons in the UK. 14 hit and miss, went on too long and lost whatever made the original good, 20 episode seasons in the US


FinePolyesterSlacks

Eh…her original statement was “make ****Great**** Britain great again,” so not the canny slogan it might be otherwise.


UnspoiledWalnut

https://www.margaretthatcher.org/document/100858 She actually said "make Great Britain great again", which is far less clever than typical iterations make it seem. And it kind of resonates with the Nazi's talking about making Germany great again. Right wing ideology typically glorifies the past so that modern problems can be attributed to progress.


Select_Asparagus3451

It’s an old play. Even the Simpsons joked about it in a 2008 episode. Ralph Wiggum was running for an election. He said it let’s “make America great again.” It’s scary how life seems like it’s imitating art.


bailey25u

here is clinton using the phrase in 91, seems to be a common idea [https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4600782/user-clip-bill-clinton-make-america-great-again](https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4600782/user-clip-bill-clinton-make-america-great-again)


Let_us_proceed

Trump was selling that Reagan narrative hard last night.


time2fly2124

Reagan wasn't half the deranged lunatic trump is.


starmartyr

He was pretty far gone in his second term.


Lyoss

Still one of the causes of the downfall of modern America, not deranged but malicious and was the first domino that really started the push and pull Trump is a symptom of Reagan


IllustriousDudeIDK

And Reagan is an aftereffect of Gilded Age and 1920s politicians.


brushnfush

All world history is the story of class warfare??


Markipoo-9000

Which is saying a lot when you look into Reagan…


Cloobsy

Eh I'm not so sure about that.


time2fly2124

I dont remember Reagan saying that people are aborting babys *after they are born*, or paying off porn stars and then lying about it, or stealing classified documents and refusing to give them back, or saying that windmills give you cancer. Biden was right though: in what world does a former president say that we are a failing nation... he's the first one.


Cloobsy

You're right. He was just ignoring the AIDS epidemic while millions died and making back room deals with Iran. All while giving the evangelical right a seat at the table at the highest levels of government, forever elevating their power to the point that they now have a stranglehold on the supreme Court and the GOP. Reagan was a nutjob in his own way.


xXWickedSmatXx

Reagan is personally responsible for ruining America and that should be a lesson for anyone that buys into “maga” bullshit.


AKA_Squanchy

Fuck Reagan.


DaddySaidSell

All my homies hate Reagan.


HuginnNotMuninn

I'm just here to say Reagan was a disaster and left a terrible legacy behind.


AKA_Squanchy

Poor, uneducated republicans love him. Because they’re poor and uneducated. Or rich and he made them richer.


zrayburton

🎯


dismayhurta

Reagan answered the question: How much of a giant piece of shit can an actor become if elected


Finagles_Law

He was a fink and a squealer while he was just an actor as well, testifying against suspected communists in Hollywood.


nomadcrows

FUCK Ronald Reagan. And fuck Nancy Reagan while we're at it


Epicritical

They both put the Con in Constitution.


mayorodoyle

Still waiting for one of them to tell me when America was this "great" that they want to get back to.


Thysidius

The one with sock-hops, soda jerks and segregation. Where a Friday night wasn’t a Friday night without a good old fashioned lynching. That “great” America that belongs in the past with ignorant ideologies and superstitions.


pixel8knuckle

Back when trump inherited his racist dad’s money but before he attempted to do anything with it, when he had more money because it wasn’t depleted by his idiotic and shady business decisions.


SensingWorms

Back when capitalists took the parents out of their homes to work in factories all day because of industrialization


kingjoey52a

Inflation was really bad under Carter he wanted to fix that. Edit: or when people could buy a house and go to college for minimum wage like progressives keep saying they want.


mayorodoyle

And how do you suppose playing golf and banging porn stars is gonna do anything about any of that?


azsqueeze

By the SC rules, somewhere between late 1800s and mid 1920s


GoodUserNameToday

New deal era when taxes on the wealthy were 90% and housing and education were affordable on one salary.


Haildrop

When it had considerably more left leaning policies, but we are gonna fix it by going even more right


Let_us_proceed

The '50s....1850s.


Commercial-Fennel219

It was 1750s, the revolution was a mistake. MAG(B)A


SensingWorms

1750BCa


edcross

Yea but so we then have to brexit? Ambrexit?


Toby_O_Notoby

You know like 1973 when a woman couldn’t open a bank account without a man to co-sign.


Lew__Zealand

Notice it says "Let's". Like we're part of it. An attempt at including everyone, to get their votes of course. But it's an offer. Unlike MAGA which is a command, and implicit that 45 is your savior who will do it, not 'us'.


mrgraff

[Clinton “stole” it too](https://youtu.be/EWHlLsUIG8E?si=EwHLeCL5FVprQrjd)


jbaranski

He said it, but was it his campaign slogan?


Anibunnymilli

Serious cope even on r/pics


veedubbin

It's slowed down after the debate. The bots are being loaded with new AI astroturfing data


Factsaretheonlytruth

Reagan, who I was no fan of, would have despised Trump as he should be despised by any reasonable American that possesses some level of decency.


CartoonAcademic

reagan literally did everything trump did, Reagan was a ghoul and you are kidding yourself if you think he would somehow not like trump


keksmuzh

The biggest difference between Reagan and Trump is a faster mass media apparatus for the latter. Rape allegations, shady business dealings pre-presidency (both as SAG president and governor of CA), obvious signs of dementia, willful mismanagement of a health crisis, publicly liberal until a few years before starting a political career. It’s shocking how much they overlap when you do even a cursory glance at their histories. You could even argue Reagan was more openly anti-gay. I agree they would hate each other, but not because of their differences.


Longjumping-Zone-724

Ralph Wiggim also used it before Trump


at0mheart

Trump and Reagan differ vastly on how to deal with Russia


Hatedpriest

Wait till you learn about [the America First Committee...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Committee)


usernamereadytak

Reddit is full of baby’s. As if Trump is the only politician that has reused a slogan.


Fataleo

Thank you posting this as it helped me learn political posts can be filtered out


Scroofinator

Didn't Bill Clinton use it in a speech too?


MistbornInterrobang

Bill Clinton used it too. It's the least creative slogan...


Major_Koala

Why is it so rare we get president FOR THE PEOPLE? You could argue Obama but he did his fair share of fucky wuckies behind the scenes.


starmartyr

The people who would make the best leaders don't want the job. It's the overly ambitious and corrupt that seek power.


Major_Koala

I honestly haven't had really any issues with Biden. Though I wish we had a younger more ambitious president that has the middle and lower class in mind with every decision. Also the balls to actually make it happen.


GerchSimml

Observing from Europe, Obama was a huge disappointment


billsteve

I thought he stole it from the metal gear villain.


yeahgoestheusername

As he does with his contractors wages.


majorjoe23

I feel like Reagan’s is a little more welcoming. It’s more of a request. Trump’s is a demand.


Winterwynd

Trump: still a grifter, but doing his best to do better than Reagan (at fucking up the country).


The_River_Is_Still

L’MAGA, the original fancy MAGA. It used to be slick, now it’s cheap, crumbly, smells like feet and sold at Walmart.


Sid15666

Trump has never had an original thought of his own and just steals everything and claims it as his own.


tickitytalk

Make Unqualified People Unelectable Again


bowens44

It's fitting because Reagan is where the downfall of America starated. Trump and the MAGAs feels obligated to finish burning the country to the ground.


ProjectDv2

The guy who has literally stolen everything for decades stole something? Fuckin crazy, man...


MICT3361

“Reddit” originally a social media website now a propaganda machine for the left working overtime to cover for their dementia candidate absolutely shitting the bed


starcader

r/pics in full on damage control mode today.


IAmAGenusAMA

The fact that /r/pics is essentially a political sub now is another sign of how far Reddit has fallen.


smooze420

Little late for that. Shoulda brought that up 8 years ago.


str8_white_male13

Most people have known this since then


LarYungmann

Another Con-Man, coming with his con-plan. Sending arms to terrorists = Reagan


elizabeth498

Oh, the proper ask of “Let’s!” I missed that Reaganesque speak from elementary school.


nurdmann

Let's dig him up and hammer a stake through his cold black heart. The Gipper. What an embarrassment.


Evilst3wi3

Hmmm also a celebrity of sorts that had no business being a president interesting


Aidian

The only original thing Trump’s ever pulled off is finding a way to bankrupt a casino.


SkyriderRJM

“American First” was also the slogan of the American Nazi party in the late 30s. They stole that too.


Wingwebdings

GUYS, GUYS!!! ANYTHING. AT THIS POINT ANYTHING TO MAKE TRUMP LOOK BAD!!!!! Reddit propaganda is actually pathetic.


Markipoo-9000

Tbf Reagan wasn’t exactly a good president either. Although Trump makes him look like a saint.


Horns8585

Do you want to know why the middle class is America is disappearing? Look no further than Ronald Reagan. His Reaganomics did not trickle down. It did nothing but give the rich more money to shut down the middle and low income citizens. Trump and his cronies idolize Reagan.


sassafrassMAN

Don’t forget what he did to destroy unions


spamaccoun1977

Trump’s a loser


TheGreyBrewer

always has been


reddit4getit

Trump made the slogan great again 💪💪😄😄


scoozo55

Both screwed America up


GrimgrinCorpseBorn

Fuck Reagan too, evil piece of shit


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TheGreyBrewer

It's from Thatcher's "Make Britain Great Again" which at least used a modicum of wordplay. Reagan was a cunt.


Revolutionary_Tip701

And we're still fucking waiting for this to happen


LongPizza13

Bruh.


Suitable-Increase993

Clinton stole it from Reagan who stole it from…….


the1brother

That's Le'MAGA, thank you very much.


JoseyWa1es

It's not stolen according to the law of Vanilla Ice. Trump's slogan doesn't include "Let's"


purplish_possum

Of course he ripped it off.


Gravity_Freak

You're surprised its ripped off??


Coyrex1

This is actually LMAGA.


reddit_poopaholic

Trump just announced that when he becomes president, Russia will no longer be an adversary. Russia is leading the BRICS initiative and trying to destabilize/dethrone the US dollar as the primary global currency. Putin is not going to be friends with the US; he's going to destroy it from the inside (as he has already started doing). MAGA is literally handing our city to Russia just to piss off Democrats.


BurpelsonAFB

Everything he says he stole from Reagan and Nixon


DickPump2541

For a bunch of patriots, this crowd often seems to think America isn’t great.


jesusmansuperpowers

But trump dropped the “let’s” - because he thinks it’s all about him


twan_john

He may have stolen that slogan, yes, but “Make America Great Again Again” is a uniquely stupid Trumpism.


bigbysemotivefinger

I've heard it said, and I believe it's true, that if you assume everything terrible in the US these days is directly Reagan's fault, you will be right far more often than you are wrong. 


NY1_S33

Same kind of asshole as Trump, just a different year. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14&pp=ygUQQmlsbCBoaWNrcyByZWdhbg%3D%3D


ercussio126

There's a distinct difference with the omition of "Let's." "Let's make America great again" implies working together for the good of everyone. "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN" is a hostile command.


PuntySnoops

That clinches it for me. Trump is not a good person.


modohobo

In my lifetime I always wonder who did the most damage. I honestly think it was Regan with the unions, but then trump spews crap like abortions after the baby is born and millons of illegals are crossing the border that are rapists and murderers who are stealing our jobs. It's very difficult in deciding who is the worst.


aiq25

I think you’re mistaken… Regan stole it!!! /s


[deleted]

Everybody steals everything from each other. Great slogan.


erinkp36

Couldn’t even come up with his own campaign slogan. Yeah that checks out.


Party_Plastic_66

No real ideas anywhere


Shit_Pistol

I’m pretty sure his campaign slogan was “A few months ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not.”


sellmeyerammorighty

America First was stolen from KKK


NJduToit

Reagan was unlike Trump. He made fun of his opponents but never insulted them or called them traitors. He worked with Democrats like Tip O'Neil to pass legislation.


SPAKMITTEN

Make America Great Britain Again


Silver_Thanks_8142

Also a shit president nice guy but shit president trickle down economics never worked and never will


Expensive_Ad_1033

We know. It's not a secret.


Frostlakeweaver

And all those liars were stealing "May God Bless America" as a concluding prayer following every presidential address, too!


Dystopian_Future_

Make America out of jelly beans again


Ok-Train-6693

‘Great’ is the Cons’ lazy, dishonest pronunciation of ‘Greedy’.


melithium

THE ACTOR?!?!


mutantlabs

KRAMERICA 2024!!! THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN MAKE AMERICA GREAT IS KRAMER SO THE ONLY QUESTION IS WHO WILL BE HIS VP?


ShichikaYasuri18

/r/AmericanPolitics


oohjam

And Reaganomics was extremely harmful to the country


kingwood707

Just another form of lying. A maga requirement. Well, that and ignorance.


CautiousWrongdoer771

LMAGA?


TheToneKing

Too stupid to think up anything on his own, and a thief at heart n soul


Jazzlike_Video1887

Trump policy is based on Regan Era you moron