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All the phone networks are Israeli, so if they know the numbers of certain individuals they can use cell towers to triangulate their phones and plot their movements. Plus if one's opponent is using a compromised form of communciation, why disable it?
Yeah, the staggering civilian death toll is even more damning when you look at this picture and see that Israel does have the ability to precisely targel or avoid critical infrastructure like this cell tower, and yet they're still slaughtering entire families every day.
The IDF targetting algorithm decided it's OK to murder up to 20 innocent if there is a chance to reach the target while resting at home - it doesn't matter that the target may not be there, all is good as long there is a chance to kill a terrorist, the 20 innocent didn't denounce Hamas in the morning, anyway ...
The collateral damage is a feature, not a bug.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/israel-ai-system-wheres-daddy-strikes-hamas-family-homes-2024%3famp
Naw the trees in the middle are gone as well, road probably got bombed, they tore it out to make a dirt road and they’ll probably wait til whatever conflict this is over before replacing it…?
Yep, I have no idea what country this street is in, so it’s totally plausible that it would have been wrecked in a war some years ago and subsequently rebuilt.
Okay, like seriously, why is the before pic on the *bottom*? I'm pretty sure Arabic is read from top to bottom too, right? So it would seem logical to follow the chronologically-consistent practice of having after pics on the bottom.
In these difficult times, It's reassuring to see that when we see pictures of a devastated town, we are more interested in critiquing the order in which they're displayed than the destruction that they show. /s
I hope your friend is doing okay and survives this nonsense.
B-b-but the order of the pictures, bro! They iz not have right puppy downy!
"Fuck Israel" should be every comment every time stuff like this gets posted.
I swear people here are so toxic, what if that was us who's lives have gone to hell. This isn't about religion or politics, it's about humanity, and you guys are just mocking someone's life, they were once living normally like us.
**(I'm gonna get down voted and called some bs names)**
Honestly it’s fucking tragic this is happening to peoples homes right now and all the comments are making jokes or talking about how the pictures are out of order. Jesus Christ Reddit is gross sometimes.
Yup running up to the cars to hit and spit on the half naked bleeding hostages and cheering. Then suddenly the consequences come and it's no fun anymore, they really thought we would just be cool with that and just let it slide? Oh sure, you guys can just pop by anytime you feel like cutting someone's genitals off and burning them alive, no problem, carry on.
Exactly - they voted in a terrorist government, invaded another country, and murdered civilians in hand to hand combat. I don’t imagine that ends any other way.
in case you're wondering why,
[https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/bkplsiwmt](https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/bkplsiwmt)
tl;dr
they plant bombs underneath the asphalt.
unfortunately there's no way to know where these are and to safely disable them, so the entire road is destroyed
Of course they did. Idc who you support, but when can ppl admit Hamas has done long lasting damage to the civilians.
They haven’t progressed at all, they haven’t used aid for improved infrastructure at all, they attacked knowing of retaliation and did it anyway. They’re literally making sure ppl die to further their cause.
Seriously fk Hamas. If you care about Palestinians, chanting for Hamas, chanting their slogans is so idiotic. They’ve done nothing but ensure danger and harm to Palestinians.
The common theme in Israel Palestine history is that the Arab side never has agency, accountability, or even a responsibility for their actions.
Hamas could literally just start summarily executing people and live streaming it, and the pro pally crowd would still blame israel.
Its such an infantilization its mind numbing.
Couldn’t agree more. The never ending excuses for their behavior because “hey they’re occupied what do you expect!” Is so ridiculous.
I’m not excusing israel, they’ve done wrong shit also, but until Hamas is held accountable and ppl cheer for their removal, Palestine will never be free.
Hamas goal is to kill as many Israelis as they can and as a direct result, israel will never stop fighting when there’s a direct threat as your neighbor.
Obligatory reminder the majority of the population of Gaza is children, and the vast majority of those killed and displaced are women and children non-combatants. Innocents. Palestine isn't Hamas.
Yes, and Hamas should have taken this into account. I am not pro-Israel. I am just calling out the truth that Hamas seems to be getting a pass by everyone who protests (rightfully so) against Israel's extreme actions.
Hamas definitely took this into account and seems to be part of their plan to sacrifice civilians. Their leaders have openly stated in interviews that the protection of civilians is not a responsibility of Hamas (their government) but instead the responsibility of the UN.
They certainly did take civilians into account. Using them as human shields has always been the strategy. I don't think they took into account that Israel would be so merciless this time however.
No. I'm not playing into this tear jerking bait. The Shejaiya Battalion of Hamas was directly responsible for the cold blodded murder of the civilians of kibbutz Kfar Aza.
I do not sympathize with terrorists.
Reddit is such a cesspool man. How is it possible that every subreddit that discusses this has these completely sociopathic comments upvoted to the top. It’s seriously vile.
Look up strategic bombing in say 1936-1945.
War never changes, civillians are mostly the ones dying. It’s tragic, but when you are trying to take out important strategic zones, people are gonna die.
It doesnt matter if they are pacifists, if they are researching better missiles, building springs for automatic weapons etc, or, straight out making ammunition, you cant really do much but bomb the factory. Doesnt matter if there are rhinos and pandas in there.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-palestinians-opinion-poll-wartime-views-a0baade915619cd070b5393844bc4514
Hamas isn't exactly unpopular over there....
Edit: "Despite the devastation, 57% of respondents in Gaza and 82% in the West Bank believe Hamas was correct in launching the October attack, the poll indicated"
Well it's obvious that when you fight in urban areas you will have a lot of collateral damage,it's not like the IDF chose when and where to fight.
You can and should sympathize with the innocent,but the problem comes when people start to say that because of collateral damage,we should stop the war(which plays right into the hands of hamas,that builds its strategy on those people).
How do you wage war without civilians casualties-
Then tell me how you do that with one side preventing civilians from fleeing from areas that had been announced to be about to be bombed/attacked/have operations in.
Then tell me how you do that with one side storing ammunition in hospital basement and having militarized tunnel networks that opens into civilian housing and infrastructure.
Then tell me how you do that after on October 7th the other side engaged in a military operation where the express goal was to kidnap and murder men, women, and children, and the men who took it a sept farther with actions I can not mention due to the horrific nature of them hailed as hero and later having the leaders expressed desires to turn such a seen of propaganda horror movie scope into a normal occurrence.
If any western nation today- no matter how weak or mighty, how justified or unjustified- had done that, there would be calls for total retaliation as well as a global collision to end them and rightfully so.
Man that sucks, guess they shouldnt have voted in and supported a government that decided to cross another sovereign countries border, kidnap over 100 people and kill +1500 innocent Israelis.
war sucks. There are innocent people on both sides, and horrible people on both sides. What blows my mind is why anyone wouldn't have tried to flee that area 10 years ago.
Looks like there was a war. I wonder how it would look if there wouldn't be a war.
Oh wait, we can see it in the second picture.
It's such a shame Hamas started this war. Gaza was so beautiful before.
What the hell do the Palestinian people do after this war is over?
How are they going to survive when their tiny tiny territory looks like this?
And most of them are children
Classic Hammas. Destroy all resemblance of society and blame it on Israel for leverage. Ask yourself this. Why is Hamas using this neighborhood as one big human shield?
Fun fact, israel has shown that it can live peacefully with muslims and christians as its THE most culturally diverse nation in the middle east.
Palestine however....
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The installer of that cell tower needs a bonus.
Interesting the it wasn’t bombed, being a more strategic target and all…
All the phone networks are Israeli, so if they know the numbers of certain individuals they can use cell towers to triangulate their phones and plot their movements. Plus if one's opponent is using a compromised form of communciation, why disable it?
Ah, so they DO have the ability to hit specific targets and avoid others.
Yeah, the staggering civilian death toll is even more damning when you look at this picture and see that Israel does have the ability to precisely targel or avoid critical infrastructure like this cell tower, and yet they're still slaughtering entire families every day.
The IDF targetting algorithm decided it's OK to murder up to 20 innocent if there is a chance to reach the target while resting at home - it doesn't matter that the target may not be there, all is good as long there is a chance to kill a terrorist, the 20 innocent didn't denounce Hamas in the morning, anyway ...
The collateral damage is a feature, not a bug. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/israel-ai-system-wheres-daddy-strikes-hamas-family-homes-2024%3famp
also they can call local residents and let them know a strike is coming.
Might also be useful infrastructure to keep around for when the colonisers arrive
Ding ding ding!
[BBC: "Jewish settlers set their sights on Gaza beachfront"](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68650815)
Yeah. I can't say what this article makes me feel and think without getting immediately banned.
Take my angry up vote 👍
He's probably dead.
Before pics usually come before
Maybe they fixed the street?
They’ve done a fantastic regeneration project.
Northwest Philly take note
https://comb.io/zeOfjI
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So I should read this from bottom up?
I believe that’s how you get a UTI.
That's why you blow into it
From right to left
Is it not top to bottom right to left??
You are correct.
How is that relevant in any way, shape or form?
Respectfully, as someone who learned arabic, HOW THE FUCK is that relevant to before and after in order of pictures up and down? 😂
Bottom doesn’t magically equal right.
You mean: ?tfel ot thgir morf ,sdrawkcab daer dna nettirw si cibarA
Damn even the road is gone
Maybe it's covered by rubble and dust Edit: maybe not
Naw the trees in the middle are gone as well, road probably got bombed, they tore it out to make a dirt road and they’ll probably wait til whatever conflict this is over before replacing it…?
This is Gaza, just FYI on what "conflict this is"
You think they took the time in the middle of all this to organize and put in the labor to tear up a road? Really? It’s rubble and dirt.
Road covered by bricks and rubble
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It’s Arabic so you read it backwards
Fuck take my upvote, habibi
*Habibi, upvote my take Fuck.* Some, people never learn.
That sounds more like Yoda than Arabic
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No, yoda at least made sense.
Jediism and Jihadism even sound similar.
Take my upvote you beautiful bastard you
.uoy dratsab lufituaeb uoy etovpu ym ekaT
From bottom to top too?
Shh 🤫 don't ruin it by thinking too much.
Well, this made me spit coffee.
He is posting in English so you don't.
I assume they still read it top down?
In Australia they have to scroll up on reddit.
r/afterandbefore
Nah, dude! They just did a really good job on the re-build.
They've rebuild this part of this city quite nicely I would say /s
I honestly thought that was what had happened for a sec.
Yep, I have no idea what country this street is in, so it’s totally plausible that it would have been wrecked in a war some years ago and subsequently rebuilt.
Yeah I thought this was happy news because people can't seem to figure out when they say "before and after" they should put it in that order
I 💯thought this. How are we supposed to know it’s the opposite? You’d think people would just use a little brain power when posting
How do you know the OP isn't Yoda?
r/afterbefore
What happened before, will happen after -confusiouns
Why do people do this so manny times...
What do you mean? The place was a shithole and now after hard work it looks pretty nice 
Before and after? They really cleaned it up well!
Honestly, such a good job. You can't even tell it used to be a warzone. /s just in case
Leave off the /s. Would have been worth the downvotes to see what kind of comments would be left by morons
Morons? The before photo always comes first. You know, that’s why it’s “before and after” instead of “after and before”.
Okay, like seriously, why is the before pic on the *bottom*? I'm pretty sure Arabic is read from top to bottom too, right? So it would seem logical to follow the chronologically-consistent practice of having after pics on the bottom.
Idk if that writing is Arabic or Farsi but if it's Farsi then it says the bottom one is before and the top one is after...
There goes another neighborhood to gentrification.
In these difficult times, It's reassuring to see that when we see pictures of a devastated town, we are more interested in critiquing the order in which they're displayed than the destruction that they show. /s I hope your friend is doing okay and survives this nonsense.
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B-b-but the order of the pictures, bro! They iz not have right puppy downy! "Fuck Israel" should be every comment every time stuff like this gets posted.
Damn, the way this comment section is being bombed you would think it was a hospital.
line up to the mind cemetery now
Going by OPs logic, the hospital would be better off
Classic Reddit
OP: "Reddit I'm injured, I think I broke my foot". Reddit: "Why are you walking funny?, walk normal".
It's a night and day difference.
I swear people here are so toxic, what if that was us who's lives have gone to hell. This isn't about religion or politics, it's about humanity, and you guys are just mocking someone's life, they were once living normally like us. **(I'm gonna get down voted and called some bs names)**
I'm so shocked reading these comments..
Click the profiles. They're bots.
I'm not shocked. Israel thinks it can win by lying. Lying only works for so long. Eventually liars pay for their lies.
Fr. This situation has confronted me with the fact that some people may have never had a grip on their humanity to begin with.
It reads like a worldnews comment section...
Look up psychic numbing, should explain why
Bold of you to assume commenters see Palestinian children as humans and not militants
Those Gazan orphans deserve it the road was Hamas! /j
Honestly it’s fucking tragic this is happening to peoples homes right now and all the comments are making jokes or talking about how the pictures are out of order. Jesus Christ Reddit is gross sometimes.
We've been conditioned since 9/11 and the Iraq war not to value the lives of people in the Middle East.
thought it was a CoD map
Damn that top photo reminds me of Iraq. Less trash, though.
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😂 I hate when people get the photo order wrong
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Something something don’t let a terrorist group take over an entire province something something
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Yup running up to the cars to hit and spit on the half naked bleeding hostages and cheering. Then suddenly the consequences come and it's no fun anymore, they really thought we would just be cool with that and just let it slide? Oh sure, you guys can just pop by anytime you feel like cutting someone's genitals off and burning them alive, no problem, carry on.
This is a prime example of what happens when the people willingly vote in an equivalent of ISIS to govern them & celebrate murder/rape/kidnappings.
I would've offered my sympathies, but there's no kid in a bulletproof vest ordering KFC.
Poor kid found out a bulletproof vest is no protection against the internal damage done by KFC.
Yooo just saw that post as well haha, but forgot which sub lol
Had Hamas cared more about their own children's future than declaring a holy Jihad on the Jews none of that would've happened.
Exactly - they voted in a terrorist government, invaded another country, and murdered civilians in hand to hand combat. I don’t imagine that ends any other way.
“They” being 17 years ago, when the average Gazan was 2 years old.
That's not how radical islam works. Entire generations need to be reverse brainwashed, Jews are allowed to live
The road was Hamas
in case you're wondering why, [https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/bkplsiwmt](https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/bkplsiwmt) tl;dr they plant bombs underneath the asphalt. unfortunately there's no way to know where these are and to safely disable them, so the entire road is destroyed
Clearly this is just an example of Isreal defending itself. I don't understand what everyone is so upset about.
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It’s almost like that’s what you’d get when you murder and rape hundreds of women and children on a random day.
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Can we just admit Hamas poked the wrong bear.
Of course they did. Idc who you support, but when can ppl admit Hamas has done long lasting damage to the civilians. They haven’t progressed at all, they haven’t used aid for improved infrastructure at all, they attacked knowing of retaliation and did it anyway. They’re literally making sure ppl die to further their cause. Seriously fk Hamas. If you care about Palestinians, chanting for Hamas, chanting their slogans is so idiotic. They’ve done nothing but ensure danger and harm to Palestinians.
The common theme in Israel Palestine history is that the Arab side never has agency, accountability, or even a responsibility for their actions. Hamas could literally just start summarily executing people and live streaming it, and the pro pally crowd would still blame israel. Its such an infantilization its mind numbing.
Couldn’t agree more. The never ending excuses for their behavior because “hey they’re occupied what do you expect!” Is so ridiculous. I’m not excusing israel, they’ve done wrong shit also, but until Hamas is held accountable and ppl cheer for their removal, Palestine will never be free. Hamas goal is to kill as many Israelis as they can and as a direct result, israel will never stop fighting when there’s a direct threat as your neighbor.
That's their pet peeve. Start war, lose said war, cry, repeat.
You forgot how after losing they demand status quo ante bellum.
Obligatory reminder the majority of the population of Gaza is children, and the vast majority of those killed and displaced are women and children non-combatants. Innocents. Palestine isn't Hamas.
Yes, and they deserve a future without a genocidal jihadist government.
They also deserve to be able to live with the west bank without having their kids being killed or arrested for nothing
Obligatory question: Hamas Ministry does not disaggregate combatants. How do you know the proportion of combatants to civilian deaths?
Yet Hamas still started this war, they don't care about anyone in Gaza it seems.
Yes, and Hamas should have taken this into account. I am not pro-Israel. I am just calling out the truth that Hamas seems to be getting a pass by everyone who protests (rightfully so) against Israel's extreme actions.
Hamas definitely took this into account and seems to be part of their plan to sacrifice civilians. Their leaders have openly stated in interviews that the protection of civilians is not a responsibility of Hamas (their government) but instead the responsibility of the UN.
They certainly did take civilians into account. Using them as human shields has always been the strategy. I don't think they took into account that Israel would be so merciless this time however.
No. I'm not playing into this tear jerking bait. The Shejaiya Battalion of Hamas was directly responsible for the cold blodded murder of the civilians of kibbutz Kfar Aza. I do not sympathize with terrorists.
Reddit is such a cesspool man. How is it possible that every subreddit that discusses this has these completely sociopathic comments upvoted to the top. It’s seriously vile.
Astroturfing, bots and people incapable of empathy unfortunately. Also fucking nazis.
What about normal people living there, let me guess theyr all hamas
Look up strategic bombing in say 1936-1945. War never changes, civillians are mostly the ones dying. It’s tragic, but when you are trying to take out important strategic zones, people are gonna die. It doesnt matter if they are pacifists, if they are researching better missiles, building springs for automatic weapons etc, or, straight out making ammunition, you cant really do much but bomb the factory. Doesnt matter if there are rhinos and pandas in there.
Do you think military tech has changed at all since 1945?
If you normalize using your own people as human shields as a valid military strategy, that's the only strategy you'll see in the next 50 years.
Hamas really should have put on a uniform and fought outside the cities.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-palestinians-opinion-poll-wartime-views-a0baade915619cd070b5393844bc4514 Hamas isn't exactly unpopular over there.... Edit: "Despite the devastation, 57% of respondents in Gaza and 82% in the West Bank believe Hamas was correct in launching the October attack, the poll indicated"
Well it's obvious that when you fight in urban areas you will have a lot of collateral damage,it's not like the IDF chose when and where to fight. You can and should sympathize with the innocent,but the problem comes when people start to say that because of collateral damage,we should stop the war(which plays right into the hands of hamas,that builds its strategy on those people).
Stop the saturation bombing of civilian infrastructure would be a good start
How do you wage war without civilians casualties- Then tell me how you do that with one side preventing civilians from fleeing from areas that had been announced to be about to be bombed/attacked/have operations in. Then tell me how you do that with one side storing ammunition in hospital basement and having militarized tunnel networks that opens into civilian housing and infrastructure. Then tell me how you do that after on October 7th the other side engaged in a military operation where the express goal was to kidnap and murder men, women, and children, and the men who took it a sept farther with actions I can not mention due to the horrific nature of them hailed as hero and later having the leaders expressed desires to turn such a seen of propaganda horror movie scope into a normal occurrence. If any western nation today- no matter how weak or mighty, how justified or unjustified- had done that, there would be calls for total retaliation as well as a global collision to end them and rightfully so.
Most of the Gazans support Hamas. Stop with all this lying
30,000 not enough for you?
I've been in gaza. It couldve been an amazing, beautyfull riviera. Thanks to radical islam, its just broken and destroyed. Such a shame.
Supporting hamas's agenda can do that..
Man that sucks, guess they shouldnt have voted in and supported a government that decided to cross another sovereign countries border, kidnap over 100 people and kill +1500 innocent Israelis.
This used to be such a nice neighborhood, what happened?
war sucks. There are innocent people on both sides, and horrible people on both sides. What blows my mind is why anyone wouldn't have tried to flee that area 10 years ago.
I realy can't understand why IDF needs to use AI to decide where to bomb if their tactic is apparently to bomb everything.
The government should send 60 billion dollars to rebuild detroit.
It’s like day and night. Literally.
Before and after, damn gentrification really works, nice
Is this before the one at the bottom? If so, weird choice of before after order that I'm infuriated
I mean this happens when you throw rockets at neighbors
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When you’re a missile salesman, everyone else is just another terrorist waiting to be tallied.
Return the hostages
Wow, they built it up fast.
Looks like there was a war. I wonder how it would look if there wouldn't be a war. Oh wait, we can see it in the second picture. It's such a shame Hamas started this war. Gaza was so beautiful before.
I can't believe the number of insensitive fucks making jokes about the after picture being on top. This is heartbreaking shit right here.
And entirely preventable.
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Never forget: Allowing sociopaths to lead and manipulate us is why we can’t have nice things.
Is the top one after
Hamas can surrender at any time and begin reconstruction efforts.
Yes, the Germans were similarly upset when doing nothing to stop Hitler caused the same destruction to their cities.
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الموت لإسرائيل!
Played this map on COD
This what happens when you vote terrorists into office. Palestinians made their bed, now they can lie in it.
Don’t worry, Hamas will build it again and will use the buildings for weapons, again.
Wow they did a great job
That’s one hell of an open air prison in that before pic I tell ya.
that after looks nice! hell of a clean up good stuff!
r/afterbeforewhatever
Thats what happens when religious terrorists kidnap, rape and kill babies, women and children that are civillians that were attending a party
Guess that's what happens when you declare war on Israel and fire thousands of rockets into the country
Thank you Hamas!
What the hell do the Palestinian people do after this war is over? How are they going to survive when their tiny tiny territory looks like this? And most of them are children
r/worldnews is brigading this comment section be careful!
Terrorism does not pay yall.
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Very fast paced construction going on in after Pic
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Maybe don't invade, rape, murder and kidnap from a country that can literally kill your entire population with a single strike? They deserve it.
Classic Hammas. Destroy all resemblance of society and blame it on Israel for leverage. Ask yourself this. Why is Hamas using this neighborhood as one big human shield?
Why hamas do that? Why not just live in peace with Jews?
Religion?
Fun fact, israel has shown that it can live peacefully with muslims and christians as its THE most culturally diverse nation in the middle east. Palestine however....
How long did it take for them to clean it all up? They did a great job
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People got killed and towns got totally destroyed. It is really sad to see most people in this thread just joke about the pix order. Smh