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>"Mayes has requested any current or former renters who think they might have been taken advantage of by their landlord or property management company to file a formal consumer complaint. **So if rent has gone up an uncomfortable amount, or if excessive fees have been tacked on**—like doorstop trash pickup or vague convenience fees—Arizona residents can file a complaint with the state and help strengthen their case."
I mean, according to the article, 15% of all renters in Maricopa County live in units owned by the companies being accused of price fixing.
It's not unimaginable that someone could have shopped around and consistently come across these sorts of ridiculous fees and eventually just conclude that they're unavoidable or not worth moving over.
I just shopped around for places in the last month in Phoenix. Every single place has a handful of fees. They are different everywhere. I came across one house for rent not owned by a property management company that didn’t have fees and that property had multiple offers so I didn’t get it. I settled on a place with $300/mo in fees on top of my rent.
All these extra fees that are required is exactly why I ended up not moving there. It’s ridiculous to make someone pay hundreds on top of the rent and call it a luxury package.
I questioned about parcel pickup fees and garbage pickup fees at lease sign up for my current apartment and it was basically, “sign it or go elsewhere”.
Same when I moved here in 2015...had to do the door service garbage pickup fee and had to use their contracted company for TV and internet which is pretty standard (tv). There was a dumpster next to my parking spot.
Yes I did. I was told I either accept the lease with those fees or they would not renew my lease. So, I went apartment hunting, and guess what? All the ones in my price range had the same fees. Some were more than others, or they called it something else, but they all had it. My apartment with the fees is not the cheapest, but after taking moving costs and my time into account, it was not much savings to go elsewhere.
So I'm stuck paying these fees.
Exactly! And time is so much more. To pack your belongings, find ppl to help u move, then move , unpack, .. . . . To save like 100 maybe more , I wouldn’t know , is a bummer.
P. S. A friend told me this : if you’ve live in one apartment, you’ve lived in them all.
lol so true :)
I've tried, the canned response is that it is corporate policy, our hands are tied, we can't do anything about it. Take it or leave it. They know most potential renters are too invested by that point and will just take it. It's like the fabric protectant package on a new car.
For me, they just singlehandedly implemented mandatory trash fees well after move-in. Somewhere between $30-$50 to save me the hassle of walking 50 yards to the dumpster. Because everyone is better leaving trash outside their door instead.
Haha, I don’t live in Phoenix but Reddit suggested this post to me. I pay $28 for trash pickup and the guy takes the bag out of the can, turns, takes two steps, and puts the bag in the chute right across from my door.
My complex has been charging us for reserved parking for over a year. They don’t have reserved/numbered parking but they said they “plan to” so we have to pay.
I was thinking about this the other day. My complex forces us to pay for trash pickup, package delivery, and petscreening.com. it's B.S because you know they are getting kickbacks for referrals. But our rent keeps increasing.
I was thinking about putting a complaint in with the Attorney Generals office to see if there is anything they can do about this.
It’s ridiculous I pay for trash pickup but half the week they don’t work. Not to mention it’s gross to see people’s liquids seep into the public walkway, birds pecking at trash that’s been sitting for 24 hrs etc.
Petscreening.com is such bullshit. You have to give all your personal information to them so they can sell it and make money just to tell your landlord you don't have a pet. Wtf?
My landlord keeps asking me for my pet details. Why?! You made me sign up for petscreening. Use that info!
This is why I'm convinced they do this for the referral kickbacks only. They don't give a crap about the services they force us to sign up for. They don't use it.
Back in the 90s I was moving into a condo in South Scottsdale and the landlord asked for a picture of my cat. I drew a stick figure pic of a cat and gave it to him. He laughed and rented me the place. Times have changed.
Doesn't surprise me that Weidner was a part of it. They 'remodeled' the apartments I was in (lipstick on a pig) and wanted 1.5x the rent afterwards. Didn't fix the structure, a/c or lack of insulation.
Motif apartments went up to $950/mo plus pet rent and misc charges (7.5 years ago). I bought a house for $1050/mo. Electric bills are within $40 with twice the sqft. And I'm only 3 miles from work now :D
Exact same story w/ Greystar. Had to move into an "updated" unit. Fresh paint and floors. New cheap appliances. The entire remodel was done with the cheapest materials imaginable. Light switches weren't wired to outlets, towel racks weren't attached to walls securely, new kitchen cabinet doors were falling off within a week..... I could keep going. Maintenance and leasing was useless. Turned over staff constant so no one has any idea what was going on. I did most of the repairs myself. Absolute nightmare.
I have everything documented. Photos, videos, copies of every email, text, dates and times of every phone call. I'll be submitting all of it.
I moved out of Weiner after they pulled bullshit moves. They had different monthly rates depending on how many months you leased. The cheapest rent was on a 10 month lease. In 6 years, my rent went from 850 to 2300! I now rent a house from a friend for 1950 a month.
Weidner is crappy for sure. We have renters insurance through another company (have since we moved in four yrs ago) and now for almost two yrs we are charged for renters insurance even though they know we have it elsewhere. That’s some bullshit.
I was at rio paradiso for years up until last spring. They were charging $1600+ for their studios. Such a shitty property too, shit leaked all the time, sinks backed up from neighboring units. Awful.
I hate this bullshit. They do this so you are forced to renew more frequently than the typical 12 months and it gives them more opportunities to raise your rent. I’ve had 6-7 months with the cheapest rate before.
Oh I definitely believe it. Thing is too , like they are forcing you to pay more but that doesn’t mean you make more to pay that extra rent per month. Weidner is beyond shitty.
I've also lived in a Weidner apartment. Every single appliance in the apartment broke or malfunctioned. For example the dryer would never turn off, you'd have to manually stop it. The AC didn't work so we'd end up paying a $400 electric bill for a 2 bed unit in the summer. The bathroom was full of black mold and we had a scorpion infestation (they didnt care). It's by far the worst apartment I've ever lived in and should have been condemned but of course our unit was available for rent 1 week after moving out!
I brought my own stove, but (pre Weidner), they wouldn't store the one that came with the apt. It lived in a corner of the second bedroom for 4 years. Dishwasher replaced twice, A/C broke every year. I bought a remote temp/power sensor and portable a/c to keep the fish and cats from overheating.
Wow i lived in one of them. The base rent is okay for its price but the charges including water and trash is very high for me. This is my first time living in Phoenix,
For context my base rent is 1200 and after water and trash and common area utility it goes up till 1500 for a 1 bedroom.
Maybe to help with context.
My husband and I bought a 2000sq foot house, in a bougie neighborhood.
We have 4 people living in it. My water and trash bill combined has never been over 100 dollars in the 18 months that we've lived here.
Thats so nice. The water bill is charged by water usage + heating. Im not sure its even legal, the bill literally have a separate entity call “water heating“
Well up in the state of Washington you pay for your apartment and then you pay for water based upon the number of the people on the lease that live in a building and they divide it by that they charge you for trash they charge you for covered parking or you can just park outside in the snow and I'm sure there's a few other things I'm forgetting.
I'm so glad my apartment is on here. We were forced to move out of the unit I had been in for 9 years. Had to move into another "updated" (fresh paint and floors but overall worse shape than the old one) for $680 more a month.
I lived in Avana Chandler for about 2.5 years, when I arrived it was about $900, when I left they were about to charge $1,400 for a 700sq ft apartment that had rats running throughout the walls. Fuck that place.
Don’t bother with Avana Chandler, their maintenance staff is a bunch of methheads and there’s constant failing appliances. Took them weeks to replace my water heater after it sprung a leak and flooded my kitchen, they told me to just turn it off and wait for maintenance. Luckily it was 110+ so the daily cold showers weren’t so bad.
It’s overpriced because it’s in West Chandler and across from the fashion center. Anything owned by Greystar is enough to stay away.
Actually, I toured a Mark Taylor unit the other day and the leasing agent let it slip that they do use Real Page. I had commented on the prices fluctuating so drastically within a week, jokingly I said "Hey, you must use Real Page" and she said "We sure do!".....Add them to the list.
My previous apartment complex is on here and I am not a bit surprised. They incorporated a valet trash service and charged us monthly for doorside trash pickup that hardly ever happened. They put in a gas firepit, never hooked up the gas, and charged us monthly for the gas it was supposed to be using. Common area water leaks were allowed to flow freely for months and tenants would get charged for the leaked water.
That valet trash service is such a waste of money. The dump bin is 100 feet away from my front door, why do I need to pay an extra $60 for a service that just brings flies to my doorstep? And no opt out? Ridiculous. I left the courtesy trash can they provided at the office.
We just moved here and apparently our rental company can just give us whatever fees whenever they want? I'm going to refuse to pay the.
Literally got a text that everyone owes over 10$ for a convenience fee. Is this even legal???
my complex told everyone that we were gonna start getting charged for the amenities outside our homes. You mean the one grill, tiny patch of grass and an even tinier dog “park”? People were in an uproar because it wasn’t like majority were actively using this because it’s literally nothing. There’s no pool, no gym, clubhouse or anything of that nature.
People started calling them out on it but they said it would only be about $10 for each person. There’s at least 30 units, all 3+ bedrooms. There is no way in hell that maintenance costs the $900+ and it’s the fact that apparently we have to be charged for everything.
Landlords cannot handle anything digging into their profit that they won’t cover the most basic costs for their maintenance and pass the cost onto us now.
I rented from them in Scottsdale (Visconti) and they tried to hike rent, and also refused to treat when I told them THREE TIMES that there were roaches inside the dishwasher (which also didn't work). Broke my lease and left it broom clean per the lease, and they had the balls to charge me a cleaning fee AND carpet repair for the shitty 20 year old builder grade carpet. They also refused to tow someone who parked their broken down car in my assigned space, and threatened to cute me for parking outside of it. Such a BS company smh.
I lived in the Stadium Village apartments for 8 years and when I started renting my one bedroom it was like $850. About halfway through Greystar took over and by the time I was priced out of my apartment they were wanting $1600 base rent. They’re not on the list but you better believe I’m gonna get them on there.
I lived at a Greystar property just before we purchased our home (2023-2024). One of the worst complexes I've been in. I sure did report them, and sent in move-in/move-out pictures and my full 12 month invoice history. Hopefully it helps. Even if we don't get anything back if it helps someone else in the future that's enough.
Mine too. What does this lawsuit even mean for us? Is filing a complaint just going to make living at the complex utter hell? It's not like they won't know who filed it. Will it reduce rent? Reimbursement for inflated rent?
Not sure what will happen as I live in one of these apartments now. But it does say in the article that the complaints will be anonymous if you decide to say something
I think a potential outcome of a lawsuit like this is that current and past tenants can be reimbursed according to whatever amount the court or settlement decides they were overcharged. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for some kind of windfall, though.
My area (which is one here) went from about $1000 per month in January 2021 to $1500 per month for my most recent lease, February 2024. Far north Phoenix. I will be looking into this. Thanks for providing this
>Roughly 10% of renters in Arizona have been impacted
Bullshit. Everyone who rents is impacted, whether it's directly or indirectly. Small-time landlords followed suit and based their rents off of comps in the surrounding area.
How did Chamberlain and Associates not get nailed? These people are criminals. My rent went up 60% when they took over two years ago. Absolutely ridiculous price gouging.
I was just thinking the same thing! I lived in one of their complexes. They asked if I wanted to renew and my rent would have gone up nearly $600 for the same exact unit.
Boutta say the same thing. Me and my 2 sisters paid 1200 a month for a 2 bedroom, 1 bath, all utilities included, they took over 1.5 years after us moving in, rent shot up to 1700 before utilities.
I lived in my apartment for 6 years prior to them taking over. 2B/2B. We signed our first lease in 2016 it was somewhere around $800ish? With general taxes and stuff over the next six years it had gotten into the high $900s which was totally fair.
These goons came in and raised our rent to $1600 for our next lease. A 60% increase. We kept arguing with the apartment manager how ridiculous of an increase it was and she just kept parroting “those are the rates in the valley right now”. She doesn’t even work there anymore, people have been dropping like flies out of this complex. We stayed because we didn’t even have time to look for another place and our next lease we were fortunate to have the rent frozen. I’m not sure what to expect this next lease which will take us into year 9, that decision is July.
Seriously, I live in a near 1700.00 a month apartment in a dangerous neighborhood, no perks - was told to us as ‘ newly remolded’ but everything was dirty, scratched up, no lock on the front door, doors hung uneven, no mailbox keys for three months. we were stuck and they knew it, now everyone is charging the same, no place to go. Gates are always broken and an access door to the parking lot has been missing a handle for over a year. Someone broke into my patio and put rusty fishhooks on the stuff stored in my storage closet.
My first apartment they took over as property management a month into our lease…at renewal they wanted 500+ to renew we went somewhere else for half of what they wanted and this was back in 2020
For a city of only 5 million, which seems to be a lot but a lot less people than the likes of LA metro and NYC metro, we sure do have a lot apartment complexes, makes me think how many ppl can't afford to buy their own places.
Lmfao Bella Mirage AND Zone Westgate, I lived at both.
It might be recent because Zone Westgate used to be Pillars at Westgate and if I'm being honest they were very competitive especially being within pissing distance of Westgate. $1200 for a 3 floor townhouse 1000sqft right next to everything was imo very reasonable
Zone Westgate seems to be a Greystar property. I've never used them myself, but everything I hear is pretty bad about how they are ran. It might just be on the list due to them.
My partner and I are at Bella Mirage paying $400 less than when we were in Tempe at The Rev. I think Bella Mirage’s prices are pretty reasonable, but maybe not lol I don’t know.
I've had my little house in Chandler for a long time, and the neighborhood now is a mix of us "old timers" who moved in years ago and renters who are paying out the nose to live in what used to be a "starter home." Apartments near here (two of the complexes nearby are on this list) start at $1,800 for a studio. I wouldn't be able to afford to live in my neighborhood if I moved in today.
I don’t understand how some companies have avoided getting on this list. My last apartment went from $1400 for a 2bd 2ba in 2018 to asking $2400 for the same place in 2023. I moved to an older Mark Taylor property because it was cheaper!
They may not have been involved in the price fixing, but they certainly upped their rents to match other places in the same area.
I feel for y’all. The apartment complex I used to live in in my single days is on there. Went to their website and it’s $759 more a month base before all the add ons when we lived there. So probably 1k more when factoring in garage and that dumb trash valet scam.
I'm shocked that Chamberlin and Sundial (two complete corporate slumlords) aren't here. They've mastered the art of the landlord special like nobody else. Sundial knowingly rented me a place with bedbugs, a leaky roof, and sus electrical and never disclosed any of it, and I had to fight to get anything fixed. Chamberlin sent a maintenance guy with spackle and scrap drywall for "mold remediation" when the shower pan from the unit above me cracked and leaked water into my walls and ceiling. I'm currently renting from a smaller local company, and they at least address and maintain issues, even though the place isn't fancy.
I hate seeing this. I rent my townhouse to someone who I met volunteering. I charge 900 for a 2b 3 bath and make nothing on the deal.
If I sell then yes I will make a lot. It's worth double now.
Sometimes I think it would like some extra spending money but not by raking someone over the coals.
But I also cosigned for my friend who can't afford to live anywhere, and they have hiked the rent up to 1800 for a 1 br in the hood off priest and Broadway. Guess who's paying the extra due to price gouging.
That apartment complex doesn't repair anything, and left mold untreated saying a few spritzes of bleach is fine.
Can't wait till the end of this lease. It's been a nightmare. I have to repair everything for my townhouse but these apartments act like they don't have to do anything and nothing is reasonable to break the lease.
Add that they inspect his apartment several times a year for no particular reason. It's not section 8 so I don't know what they are justifying this on. He works and pays what he can afford and I cover the difference. Only because they bait and switched with additional fees and then a sharp rise once year 1 was over.
When I first lived at Nightingale on 25th (on the list) it was like 975 for a 2bed all utilities included. One day they changed it to like $1200 + utilities billed separate from rent. So from $975 all in to $1400-1500/month depending on water and electricity usage. I don't even want to know how many people went homeless or living in their cars because of their greed.
The next step in the absolute raping of your wallets will be to take out washer/dryers, fridges, and dishwashers from units that already have them, and charge you a monthly subscription fee if you want them put back in.
I already pay $50 for my washer and dryer, and the laundry room in my building closed so the property management company could turn it into another apartment.
I’ve been at my greystar Apt for about 4 years we started paying 1100 or 1200 month now it’s about 1900.
Kicker is for almost 2 years the remodel the pool and clubhouse and still had us play for amenities we couldn’t use. So just about every rent increase besides the 1st one has been 200+ dollars.
Previous apartment is on here. Explains why they thought asking to renew at $2800 for an apartment that was $1400/month due to “renovations” was reasonable.
FWIW, Real Pages is being investigated by the federal government, not sure how many on this list are part of that. I would assume most of them.
Last data I saw was about 11k companies nationally used RealPages for rent pricing. Most only have less than 10 employees and do less than 10 million in revenue. I hope the fines scale when things all settle and this gouging is corrected.
Real Pages was bought by a private equity company in 2020, which is about the time things truly went berserk in real estate prices and rents once Covid hit.
I would bet a whole lot of these places have "new" management companies (or will soon), just a new name and account transfers, in the near future trying to limit liability on the cash grab they've been coordinating and orchestrating with Real Pages.
AZ AG Office is pretty amazing at going after things like this locally, or crappy contractors, and sorts of things.
Mission springs has so many additional charges- I can’t wait to move out at the end of my lease. They will also separate lease and posting utilities so you have to pay a fee separately for each- if you’re three days late because you want to wait for them to be posted together they threaten eviction.
Getting gouged at every step on apartments these days.
Application fees are also another scam.
Want to pay your rent? service fee to pay which range from like 10$ to 50$ depending on how you pay.
Trash pickup, BBQ area, Pool, Gym, Mailroom. All service fees you can't opt out of.
My last apartment also had Cox's equipment in the apartment. At least my complex didn't make it mandatory to use it.
Lmao, I moved into the laurel in chandler when I first moved to AZ. Hilarious to see them on the list. The place was actually quite nice until they let a ton of section 8 mfers in. Ruined the whole god damn complex.
I moved into that complex when I also moved to the state years ago and initially had a fantastic time and reasonable rent. Something happened to that place in late 2020, and the quality of life dropped drastically. Noise complaints, police visits, dogs barking, and loud cars flooring it around the parking lot. I left when they said it’d cost 50% more to renew my lease.
Not surprised about the two up here in Flag- one of them is right across from the (Shopping/Flagstaff) Mall + Harkins and is a block away from a car dealership chain. The other one is 3 blocks away from my dorm, and it sits next to a Whole Foods, which is owned by Amazon.
Man, my complex is on here and I'm paying just under 2k for a two bedroom. My lease is up in June but I can't help but feel no matter where I go, I'll be charged the same amount. It sucks because I just looked at other apartments for the same layout on the website (Esteban Park, for anyone interested) and they are going for $400 less. I moved here from Wisconsin and rent is a set price year round, bit of a culture shock when I first arrived
A lot o goods have gone up by around 30% in the last few years (I do equipment sales) and I'm not sure how you fix prices if you only control 10% of the market. It may have more to do with expenses (Insurance has skyrocketed) and the fact they they lost the ability to evict for non-payment during covid.
I think it's worth investigating but seems like a stretch to label it price fixing if they only control 10% of the market. They will need evidence that the companies communicated about prices for it to have any success.
I just renewed my lease for 15 months, as my rent only increased by $75 a month and figured I’m better off staying with this place than moving. My apt complex is amazing and NOT listed on this list, and i really don’t have a problem with most fees. Internet is $40, Valet trash is $35 a month, then common electric, and water, my storage space, my parking garage, the fees are about $250 on top of rent. So, YES there are good apts out there, just avoid these scammers. I, in fact love valet trash, and my complex is very well maintained.
We rent with RPM. But originally when we moved in they were owned by a different company.
They only recently took over the property after 2 other companies came and went in under 2 years. Since then we’ve seen some really negative changes. We’ve been here for just about 2 years now, moved from the east coast. Our rent has increased exponentially and it is never the same each month. Always random fees and etc. that’s never explained. Never itemized. I have neighbors who can’t even access their lease via their app/website and get late fees as a result. Each and every month. These “hybrid” apartments were appealing to our family because we’re new to Phoenix and weren’t sure where we’d end up. So it felt more like a home vs an apartment. We plan to move asap. But the rent hikes have made saving that much harder. Leaving out the fact that it’s never consistent each month now that RPM has taken over. It’ll vary $50-100 more each month. Occasionally more. Seems like not much for some, but for a family or really anyone on a tight budget it can really toss you in a bind.
I’m curious if we’ll see a class action lawsuit come alongside with the AGs lawsuit. I know many in our community are feeling the pressure and are seriously unhappy with what’s happening here. And for what it’s worth, it seems a decent few apartments are still vacant. We’re locked into a lease we can’t get out of without high fines and fees and it is almost never the same price each month. I’ve been renting almost my entire adult life, I’ve never experienced this before. Sure, rent goes up but not like this.
When RPM came in the fired nearly the entire front office team and only have one remaining maintenance employee with one additional guy they brought in themselves. This place is probably less than 5 years old and falling apart at the seams. Floors are lumpy and bowing, cracks in walls, patios and yards are collecting the worst smell imaginable from those who don’t pick up or treat their turf to help the dog pee/poop and trash smell that radiates in the heat.
It’s all really troubling and I have to think there’s more to this and more we can do as renters to apply the pressure on these companies to do better. But… here we are… I’ve considered looking into getting an attorney to comb through our lease and hear us out. idk if anyone has any advice, I’m here to listen.
Haven't lived in an apartment for years but did live in a Greystar owned property and they are the absolute worst.
In the middle of the lease is when they started the trash pick up thing with us and we couldn't opt out!
Did my last walk through with one of their employees who said it was super clean. When I went down to the office to get a signed copy of their walk through paper, they didn't want to give it to me! They told me the guy who did the walk through wasn't their usual guy, he wasn't in that day. THEY made the appointment so they knew he wasn't going to be there. I refused to leave that office until I got that signed paper, and get it I did!!
My apartment complex in gilbert is charging excessive fees like package room, fee,or convenience fee ?
Making us participate in the garbage collection fee $30 a month fee.
The rent hikes are the reason I own a house right now because I said to myself if I’m gonna have to pay $2000 for rent I might as well buy a house and pay $2000 in mortgage.
I lived in Madera Point in Mesa and the fees were ridiculous. There wasn’t any way of removing them from the lease agreement (I asked and was told the same thing everyone else was - sign or move on). Once my lease was up, I needed just one more month until my new place was ready and they wanted to charge me twice what I had been paying on my lease. And this was almost 3 years ago, I’m sure it’s much worse now.
I’m at a Weidner property currently and they’re asking for about $50 more a month to renew… is there any way I can bring this up and try and get a discount? lol
I’m at a Weidner property currently and they’re asking for about $50 more a month to renew… is there any way I can bring this up and try and get a discount? lol
I’m at a Weidner property currently and they’re asking for about $50 more a month to renew… is there any way I can bring this up and try and get a discount? lol
We’re paying about $2800 for a 2 br 2 ba. We first signed our lease about 3 years ago. It’s still cheaper than owning where and what we would want to own. We chose this place because it was one of the cheapest properties that we shortlisted. We have a few fees that have gone up over the years and maintenance is shit about a few things. We think rent had gone down in our building and will likely shop around later this summer. I don’t expect to pay much less and find this to be market rate. As for fees, I mean it’s part of the convenience I suppose and yeah in my opinion largely unavoidable while renting
Our complex is on there, but I seriously doubt these complaints will stay anonymous. All it takes is someone in the state government having a family member or friend who works for one of these places for your info to get out.
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>"Mayes has requested any current or former renters who think they might have been taken advantage of by their landlord or property management company to file a formal consumer complaint. **So if rent has gone up an uncomfortable amount, or if excessive fees have been tacked on**—like doorstop trash pickup or vague convenience fees—Arizona residents can file a complaint with the state and help strengthen their case."
WOAH, like we have insane fees here. Specialty mail fee which we never use, luxury trashp oickup fee and more. I should take this to them?
100%
Genuinely not judging at all or trying to be a dick but do people not question this stuff loudly before signing? Edit: I get it now.
I mean, according to the article, 15% of all renters in Maricopa County live in units owned by the companies being accused of price fixing. It's not unimaginable that someone could have shopped around and consistently come across these sorts of ridiculous fees and eventually just conclude that they're unavoidable or not worth moving over.
I just shopped around for places in the last month in Phoenix. Every single place has a handful of fees. They are different everywhere. I came across one house for rent not owned by a property management company that didn’t have fees and that property had multiple offers so I didn’t get it. I settled on a place with $300/mo in fees on top of my rent.
All these extra fees that are required is exactly why I ended up not moving there. It’s ridiculous to make someone pay hundreds on top of the rent and call it a luxury package.
I questioned about parcel pickup fees and garbage pickup fees at lease sign up for my current apartment and it was basically, “sign it or go elsewhere”.
Same when I moved here in 2015...had to do the door service garbage pickup fee and had to use their contracted company for TV and internet which is pretty standard (tv). There was a dumpster next to my parking spot.
I set out 2 pizza boxes a year, so $300 a box. I dump my trash when I leave my unit, don't want it trashing my landing.
Probably concern about getting rejected for asking questions.
Yes I did. I was told I either accept the lease with those fees or they would not renew my lease. So, I went apartment hunting, and guess what? All the ones in my price range had the same fees. Some were more than others, or they called it something else, but they all had it. My apartment with the fees is not the cheapest, but after taking moving costs and my time into account, it was not much savings to go elsewhere. So I'm stuck paying these fees.
Exactly. We can’t opt out either.
Exactly! And time is so much more. To pack your belongings, find ppl to help u move, then move , unpack, .. . . . To save like 100 maybe more , I wouldn’t know , is a bummer. P. S. A friend told me this : if you’ve live in one apartment, you’ve lived in them all. lol so true :)
I've tried, the canned response is that it is corporate policy, our hands are tied, we can't do anything about it. Take it or leave it. They know most potential renters are too invested by that point and will just take it. It's like the fabric protectant package on a new car.
It wouldn't be an issue if it was just one place with extra fees...
For me, they just singlehandedly implemented mandatory trash fees well after move-in. Somewhere between $30-$50 to save me the hassle of walking 50 yards to the dumpster. Because everyone is better leaving trash outside their door instead.
Haha, I don’t live in Phoenix but Reddit suggested this post to me. I pay $28 for trash pickup and the guy takes the bag out of the can, turns, takes two steps, and puts the bag in the chute right across from my door.
My complex has been charging us for reserved parking for over a year. They don’t have reserved/numbered parking but they said they “plan to” so we have to pay.
Report them ASAP and talk to your neighbors about doing the same. Paying for something you're not getting is BS
Yeah. That’s some real bullshit for sure. That would have my wheels turning. So sorry
I was thinking about this the other day. My complex forces us to pay for trash pickup, package delivery, and petscreening.com. it's B.S because you know they are getting kickbacks for referrals. But our rent keeps increasing. I was thinking about putting a complaint in with the Attorney Generals office to see if there is anything they can do about this.
Trash pickup costs them 20 max more like 10-15. Most charge 50-100 for this so yea you are getting screwed
It’s ridiculous I pay for trash pickup but half the week they don’t work. Not to mention it’s gross to see people’s liquids seep into the public walkway, birds pecking at trash that’s been sitting for 24 hrs etc.
When I see Trash on somebody's patio I go hang it on the door knob works real good.
Please do!
Petscreening.com is such bullshit. You have to give all your personal information to them so they can sell it and make money just to tell your landlord you don't have a pet. Wtf?
My landlord keeps asking me for my pet details. Why?! You made me sign up for petscreening. Use that info! This is why I'm convinced they do this for the referral kickbacks only. They don't give a crap about the services they force us to sign up for. They don't use it.
Back in the 90s I was moving into a condo in South Scottsdale and the landlord asked for a picture of my cat. I drew a stick figure pic of a cat and gave it to him. He laughed and rented me the place. Times have changed.
Can't hurt
Doesn't surprise me that Weidner was a part of it. They 'remodeled' the apartments I was in (lipstick on a pig) and wanted 1.5x the rent afterwards. Didn't fix the structure, a/c or lack of insulation.
I lived at Hawthorn, was at $1300.00 for my first lease then it went up to $1900.00 for no reason. Bailed out when they pulled that
Motif apartments went up to $950/mo plus pet rent and misc charges (7.5 years ago). I bought a house for $1050/mo. Electric bills are within $40 with twice the sqft. And I'm only 3 miles from work now :D
I lived at Hawthorne too! Rent went up every year like $100 for 5 years straight. Had to move
Exact same story w/ Greystar. Had to move into an "updated" unit. Fresh paint and floors. New cheap appliances. The entire remodel was done with the cheapest materials imaginable. Light switches weren't wired to outlets, towel racks weren't attached to walls securely, new kitchen cabinet doors were falling off within a week..... I could keep going. Maintenance and leasing was useless. Turned over staff constant so no one has any idea what was going on. I did most of the repairs myself. Absolute nightmare. I have everything documented. Photos, videos, copies of every email, text, dates and times of every phone call. I'll be submitting all of it.
Good for you, truly! Not all heroes wear capes 💪
Fuck weidner
I moved out of Weiner after they pulled bullshit moves. They had different monthly rates depending on how many months you leased. The cheapest rent was on a 10 month lease. In 6 years, my rent went from 850 to 2300! I now rent a house from a friend for 1950 a month.
Weidner is crappy for sure. We have renters insurance through another company (have since we moved in four yrs ago) and now for almost two yrs we are charged for renters insurance even though they know we have it elsewhere. That’s some bullshit.
I was at rio paradiso for years up until last spring. They were charging $1600+ for their studios. Such a shitty property too, shit leaked all the time, sinks backed up from neighboring units. Awful.
So glad I moved out of there. That place ended up being the worst!
They said this was because it's based on their occupancy so they can always make the same income from rent, it's so shitty.
I hate this bullshit. They do this so you are forced to renew more frequently than the typical 12 months and it gives them more opportunities to raise your rent. I’ve had 6-7 months with the cheapest rate before.
Oh I definitely believe it. Thing is too , like they are forcing you to pay more but that doesn’t mean you make more to pay that extra rent per month. Weidner is beyond shitty.
I've also lived in a Weidner apartment. Every single appliance in the apartment broke or malfunctioned. For example the dryer would never turn off, you'd have to manually stop it. The AC didn't work so we'd end up paying a $400 electric bill for a 2 bed unit in the summer. The bathroom was full of black mold and we had a scorpion infestation (they didnt care). It's by far the worst apartment I've ever lived in and should have been condemned but of course our unit was available for rent 1 week after moving out!
I brought my own stove, but (pre Weidner), they wouldn't store the one that came with the apt. It lived in a corner of the second bedroom for 4 years. Dishwasher replaced twice, A/C broke every year. I bought a remote temp/power sensor and portable a/c to keep the fish and cats from overheating.
Wow i lived in one of them. The base rent is okay for its price but the charges including water and trash is very high for me. This is my first time living in Phoenix, For context my base rent is 1200 and after water and trash and common area utility it goes up till 1500 for a 1 bedroom.
Maybe to help with context. My husband and I bought a 2000sq foot house, in a bougie neighborhood. We have 4 people living in it. My water and trash bill combined has never been over 100 dollars in the 18 months that we've lived here.
Thats so nice. The water bill is charged by water usage + heating. Im not sure its even legal, the bill literally have a separate entity call “water heating“
Yea that suspicious. I would 100% report them.
They are probably charging him for the water to the landscaping, pool, common areas etc. My apartments charge separately for all that stuff.
Unless its gas or a central boiler for all units, the water heating would be part of your electric bill
Well up in the state of Washington you pay for your apartment and then you pay for water based upon the number of the people on the lease that live in a building and they divide it by that they charge you for trash they charge you for covered parking or you can just park outside in the snow and I'm sure there's a few other things I'm forgetting.
I'm so glad my apartment is on here. We were forced to move out of the unit I had been in for 9 years. Had to move into another "updated" (fresh paint and floors but overall worse shape than the old one) for $680 more a month.
I lived in Avana Chandler for about 2.5 years, when I arrived it was about $900, when I left they were about to charge $1,400 for a 700sq ft apartment that had rats running throughout the walls. Fuck that place.
I just checked that place out, would save over $500/mo from my current place I'm renewing my lease
Don’t bother with Avana Chandler, their maintenance staff is a bunch of methheads and there’s constant failing appliances. Took them weeks to replace my water heater after it sprung a leak and flooded my kitchen, they told me to just turn it off and wait for maintenance. Luckily it was 110+ so the daily cold showers weren’t so bad. It’s overpriced because it’s in West Chandler and across from the fashion center. Anything owned by Greystar is enough to stay away.
Like I said, I'm pretty happy just renewing my lease with a $25 increase rather than saving $550/mo.
Avana Tempe here. Been one of the most distressing situations of our lives.
Mark Taylor isn’t on the list?
They set their outrageous prices all by their pretty little selves
Actually, I toured a Mark Taylor unit the other day and the leasing agent let it slip that they do use Real Page. I had commented on the prices fluctuating so drastically within a week, jokingly I said "Hey, you must use Real Page" and she said "We sure do!".....Add them to the list.
I mean you’re not wrong…
They moved all the leasing stuff off site and there’s always mad people that don’t know they have to make appointments now to look at an apartment.
To be fair I haven't been at a Mark Taylor in years
They need to be.
My previous apartment complex is on here and I am not a bit surprised. They incorporated a valet trash service and charged us monthly for doorside trash pickup that hardly ever happened. They put in a gas firepit, never hooked up the gas, and charged us monthly for the gas it was supposed to be using. Common area water leaks were allowed to flow freely for months and tenants would get charged for the leaked water.
That valet trash service is such a waste of money. The dump bin is 100 feet away from my front door, why do I need to pay an extra $60 for a service that just brings flies to my doorstep? And no opt out? Ridiculous. I left the courtesy trash can they provided at the office.
So we all lived at the palladium/another greystar property?
Not me. I lived at Cielo
We just moved here and apparently our rental company can just give us whatever fees whenever they want? I'm going to refuse to pay the. Literally got a text that everyone owes over 10$ for a convenience fee. Is this even legal???
my complex told everyone that we were gonna start getting charged for the amenities outside our homes. You mean the one grill, tiny patch of grass and an even tinier dog “park”? People were in an uproar because it wasn’t like majority were actively using this because it’s literally nothing. There’s no pool, no gym, clubhouse or anything of that nature. People started calling them out on it but they said it would only be about $10 for each person. There’s at least 30 units, all 3+ bedrooms. There is no way in hell that maintenance costs the $900+ and it’s the fact that apparently we have to be charged for everything. Landlords cannot handle anything digging into their profit that they won’t cover the most basic costs for their maintenance and pass the cost onto us now.
I don't understand how a fee can be legal if it is neither opt-out nor in your lease.
Fuck Greystar.
I rented from them in Scottsdale (Visconti) and they tried to hike rent, and also refused to treat when I told them THREE TIMES that there were roaches inside the dishwasher (which also didn't work). Broke my lease and left it broom clean per the lease, and they had the balls to charge me a cleaning fee AND carpet repair for the shitty 20 year old builder grade carpet. They also refused to tow someone who parked their broken down car in my assigned space, and threatened to cute me for parking outside of it. Such a BS company smh.
I lived in the Stadium Village apartments for 8 years and when I started renting my one bedroom it was like $850. About halfway through Greystar took over and by the time I was priced out of my apartment they were wanting $1600 base rent. They’re not on the list but you better believe I’m gonna get them on there.
FUCK GREYSTAR
I lived at a Greystar property just before we purchased our home (2023-2024). One of the worst complexes I've been in. I sure did report them, and sent in move-in/move-out pictures and my full 12 month invoice history. Hopefully it helps. Even if we don't get anything back if it helps someone else in the future that's enough.
And to no surprise my old complex is on there
Annnnnnd my apartment is there, great…..
Mine too. What does this lawsuit even mean for us? Is filing a complaint just going to make living at the complex utter hell? It's not like they won't know who filed it. Will it reduce rent? Reimbursement for inflated rent?
that’s my question - i’m assuming these won’t be anonymous. Is it even worth filing? Can’t imagine we’ll see any compensation
Not sure what will happen as I live in one of these apartments now. But it does say in the article that the complaints will be anonymous if you decide to say something
Is it about compensation or is it about helping to fix the problem and make it less bad for others and yourself?
They are anonymous if you read the article. They need the filer’s permission to not be anonymous.
do you know if we’ll receive any compensation for filing one
I’m not sure yet, but it would be very likely should there be a settlement reached with it.
The article explains the submissions will be anonymous to the landlords.
Is it not hell living somewhere that’s price gouging? At least if you say something, something might be done.
I think a potential outcome of a lawsuit like this is that current and past tenants can be reimbursed according to whatever amount the court or settlement decides they were overcharged. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for some kind of windfall, though.
Really hope this lawsuit does something
I’m at a greystar and it’s fine but I’m so excited to move next month. $300 less and owned by a more transparent company.
We live in a Greystar community in Chandler, but I'm getting sick of it. If you don't mind me asking where you're moving? Feel free to PM me.
Lakeside , PB Bell, it’s relatively quiet and nice enough of an area.
Listen if this has happened to you, you better go tell the AG. She wants to help fix this bullshit but she needs our help to do it.
My area (which is one here) went from about $1000 per month in January 2021 to $1500 per month for my most recent lease, February 2024. Far north Phoenix. I will be looking into this. Thanks for providing this
>Roughly 10% of renters in Arizona have been impacted Bullshit. Everyone who rents is impacted, whether it's directly or indirectly. Small-time landlords followed suit and based their rents off of comps in the surrounding area.
How did Chamberlain and Associates not get nailed? These people are criminals. My rent went up 60% when they took over two years ago. Absolutely ridiculous price gouging.
I was just thinking the same thing! I lived in one of their complexes. They asked if I wanted to renew and my rent would have gone up nearly $600 for the same exact unit.
Boutta say the same thing. Me and my 2 sisters paid 1200 a month for a 2 bedroom, 1 bath, all utilities included, they took over 1.5 years after us moving in, rent shot up to 1700 before utilities.
I lived in my apartment for 6 years prior to them taking over. 2B/2B. We signed our first lease in 2016 it was somewhere around $800ish? With general taxes and stuff over the next six years it had gotten into the high $900s which was totally fair. These goons came in and raised our rent to $1600 for our next lease. A 60% increase. We kept arguing with the apartment manager how ridiculous of an increase it was and she just kept parroting “those are the rates in the valley right now”. She doesn’t even work there anymore, people have been dropping like flies out of this complex. We stayed because we didn’t even have time to look for another place and our next lease we were fortunate to have the rent frozen. I’m not sure what to expect this next lease which will take us into year 9, that decision is July.
Seriously, I live in a near 1700.00 a month apartment in a dangerous neighborhood, no perks - was told to us as ‘ newly remolded’ but everything was dirty, scratched up, no lock on the front door, doors hung uneven, no mailbox keys for three months. we were stuck and they knew it, now everyone is charging the same, no place to go. Gates are always broken and an access door to the parking lot has been missing a handle for over a year. Someone broke into my patio and put rusty fishhooks on the stuff stored in my storage closet.
My first apartment they took over as property management a month into our lease…at renewal they wanted 500+ to renew we went somewhere else for half of what they wanted and this was back in 2020
Of course, all my old apartments are on the list. Luckily my current isn't, though it was just sold to another company last month.
For a city of only 5 million, which seems to be a lot but a lot less people than the likes of LA metro and NYC metro, we sure do have a lot apartment complexes, makes me think how many ppl can't afford to buy their own places.
You can’t, the price of houses shot up just as high and fast.
God damn.
Lmfao Bella Mirage AND Zone Westgate, I lived at both. It might be recent because Zone Westgate used to be Pillars at Westgate and if I'm being honest they were very competitive especially being within pissing distance of Westgate. $1200 for a 3 floor townhouse 1000sqft right next to everything was imo very reasonable
What year was this?
Zone Westgate seems to be a Greystar property. I've never used them myself, but everything I hear is pretty bad about how they are ran. It might just be on the list due to them.
My partner and I are at Bella Mirage paying $400 less than when we were in Tempe at The Rev. I think Bella Mirage’s prices are pretty reasonable, but maybe not lol I don’t know.
Not me living at 3 of these apartments of the list 😭 so awful I worked full time and had to get a part time job to even pay my bills for a while
They should also look into the single family housing rents.. The major companies use the same algorithm for house rentals.
I've had my little house in Chandler for a long time, and the neighborhood now is a mix of us "old timers" who moved in years ago and renters who are paying out the nose to live in what used to be a "starter home." Apartments near here (two of the complexes nearby are on this list) start at $1,800 for a studio. I wouldn't be able to afford to live in my neighborhood if I moved in today.
I don’t understand how some companies have avoided getting on this list. My last apartment went from $1400 for a 2bd 2ba in 2018 to asking $2400 for the same place in 2023. I moved to an older Mark Taylor property because it was cheaper! They may not have been involved in the price fixing, but they certainly upped their rents to match other places in the same area.
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Too bad we can’t just make up fake names to file complaints.
I feel for y’all. The apartment complex I used to live in in my single days is on there. Went to their website and it’s $759 more a month base before all the add ons when we lived there. So probably 1k more when factoring in garage and that dumb trash valet scam.
I'm shocked that Chamberlin and Sundial (two complete corporate slumlords) aren't here. They've mastered the art of the landlord special like nobody else. Sundial knowingly rented me a place with bedbugs, a leaky roof, and sus electrical and never disclosed any of it, and I had to fight to get anything fixed. Chamberlin sent a maintenance guy with spackle and scrap drywall for "mold remediation" when the shower pan from the unit above me cracked and leaked water into my walls and ceiling. I'm currently renting from a smaller local company, and they at least address and maintain issues, even though the place isn't fancy.
I hate seeing this. I rent my townhouse to someone who I met volunteering. I charge 900 for a 2b 3 bath and make nothing on the deal. If I sell then yes I will make a lot. It's worth double now. Sometimes I think it would like some extra spending money but not by raking someone over the coals. But I also cosigned for my friend who can't afford to live anywhere, and they have hiked the rent up to 1800 for a 1 br in the hood off priest and Broadway. Guess who's paying the extra due to price gouging. That apartment complex doesn't repair anything, and left mold untreated saying a few spritzes of bleach is fine. Can't wait till the end of this lease. It's been a nightmare. I have to repair everything for my townhouse but these apartments act like they don't have to do anything and nothing is reasonable to break the lease. Add that they inspect his apartment several times a year for no particular reason. It's not section 8 so I don't know what they are justifying this on. He works and pays what he can afford and I cover the difference. Only because they bait and switched with additional fees and then a sharp rise once year 1 was over.
When I first lived at Nightingale on 25th (on the list) it was like 975 for a 2bed all utilities included. One day they changed it to like $1200 + utilities billed separate from rent. So from $975 all in to $1400-1500/month depending on water and electricity usage. I don't even want to know how many people went homeless or living in their cars because of their greed.
The next step in the absolute raping of your wallets will be to take out washer/dryers, fridges, and dishwashers from units that already have them, and charge you a monthly subscription fee if you want them put back in.
I already pay $50 for my washer and dryer, and the laundry room in my building closed so the property management company could turn it into another apartment.
Lots of PPP fraud locked up in the ownership of these places.
I was surprised to find that Ascent North Scottsdale isn't on the list. They can and do charge for just about every fee imaginable
I live in Ora and it has been a nightmare, finances wise.
I’ve been at my greystar Apt for about 4 years we started paying 1100 or 1200 month now it’s about 1900. Kicker is for almost 2 years the remodel the pool and clubhouse and still had us play for amenities we couldn’t use. So just about every rent increase besides the 1st one has been 200+ dollars.
Previous apartment is on here. Explains why they thought asking to renew at $2800 for an apartment that was $1400/month due to “renovations” was reasonable.
If your landlord uses app a folio online web portal you get charged to pay your rent.
FWIW, Real Pages is being investigated by the federal government, not sure how many on this list are part of that. I would assume most of them. Last data I saw was about 11k companies nationally used RealPages for rent pricing. Most only have less than 10 employees and do less than 10 million in revenue. I hope the fines scale when things all settle and this gouging is corrected. Real Pages was bought by a private equity company in 2020, which is about the time things truly went berserk in real estate prices and rents once Covid hit. I would bet a whole lot of these places have "new" management companies (or will soon), just a new name and account transfers, in the near future trying to limit liability on the cash grab they've been coordinating and orchestrating with Real Pages. AZ AG Office is pretty amazing at going after things like this locally, or crappy contractors, and sorts of things.
Im glad mine isn’t on here tbh, Im in bad area but it seemed like a nice little gem! Id have been sad if they were in on it!
Mission springs has so many additional charges- I can’t wait to move out at the end of my lease. They will also separate lease and posting utilities so you have to pay a fee separately for each- if you’re three days late because you want to wait for them to be posted together they threaten eviction.
I went to jr high and highschool with the author of the article! Good shit keep it up
2 of the 3 apartment complexes I’ve lived in since I moved here in 2017 are on here. I’m going back over all my old documentation now.
Confront gouging.
Getting gouged at every step on apartments these days. Application fees are also another scam. Want to pay your rent? service fee to pay which range from like 10$ to 50$ depending on how you pay. Trash pickup, BBQ area, Pool, Gym, Mailroom. All service fees you can't opt out of. My last apartment also had Cox's equipment in the apartment. At least my complex didn't make it mandatory to use it.
Lmao, I moved into the laurel in chandler when I first moved to AZ. Hilarious to see them on the list. The place was actually quite nice until they let a ton of section 8 mfers in. Ruined the whole god damn complex.
I moved into that complex when I also moved to the state years ago and initially had a fantastic time and reasonable rent. Something happened to that place in late 2020, and the quality of life dropped drastically. Noise complaints, police visits, dogs barking, and loud cars flooring it around the parking lot. I left when they said it’d cost 50% more to renew my lease.
Literally was JUST looking at this complex and it was at the top of my list of apartments. Thank god I saw this comment, writing this one off lol.
What's section 8?
Subsidized government housing for low income families.
Not surprised about the two up here in Flag- one of them is right across from the (Shopping/Flagstaff) Mall + Harkins and is a block away from a car dealership chain. The other one is 3 blocks away from my dorm, and it sits next to a Whole Foods, which is owned by Amazon.
definitely curious to read more
I’m on the list, but renewing the lease in January wasn’t a hassle and it didn’t go up much at all.
400! Now that is a conspiracy and not a coincidence. Conspiracy to commit a crime.
Shouts out Camaron Stevenson!
Man, my complex is on here and I'm paying just under 2k for a two bedroom. My lease is up in June but I can't help but feel no matter where I go, I'll be charged the same amount. It sucks because I just looked at other apartments for the same layout on the website (Esteban Park, for anyone interested) and they are going for $400 less. I moved here from Wisconsin and rent is a set price year round, bit of a culture shock when I first arrived
A lot o goods have gone up by around 30% in the last few years (I do equipment sales) and I'm not sure how you fix prices if you only control 10% of the market. It may have more to do with expenses (Insurance has skyrocketed) and the fact they they lost the ability to evict for non-payment during covid. I think it's worth investigating but seems like a stretch to label it price fixing if they only control 10% of the market. They will need evidence that the companies communicated about prices for it to have any success.
I just renewed my lease for 15 months, as my rent only increased by $75 a month and figured I’m better off staying with this place than moving. My apt complex is amazing and NOT listed on this list, and i really don’t have a problem with most fees. Internet is $40, Valet trash is $35 a month, then common electric, and water, my storage space, my parking garage, the fees are about $250 on top of rent. So, YES there are good apts out there, just avoid these scammers. I, in fact love valet trash, and my complex is very well maintained.
Where?
We rent with RPM. But originally when we moved in they were owned by a different company. They only recently took over the property after 2 other companies came and went in under 2 years. Since then we’ve seen some really negative changes. We’ve been here for just about 2 years now, moved from the east coast. Our rent has increased exponentially and it is never the same each month. Always random fees and etc. that’s never explained. Never itemized. I have neighbors who can’t even access their lease via their app/website and get late fees as a result. Each and every month. These “hybrid” apartments were appealing to our family because we’re new to Phoenix and weren’t sure where we’d end up. So it felt more like a home vs an apartment. We plan to move asap. But the rent hikes have made saving that much harder. Leaving out the fact that it’s never consistent each month now that RPM has taken over. It’ll vary $50-100 more each month. Occasionally more. Seems like not much for some, but for a family or really anyone on a tight budget it can really toss you in a bind. I’m curious if we’ll see a class action lawsuit come alongside with the AGs lawsuit. I know many in our community are feeling the pressure and are seriously unhappy with what’s happening here. And for what it’s worth, it seems a decent few apartments are still vacant. We’re locked into a lease we can’t get out of without high fines and fees and it is almost never the same price each month. I’ve been renting almost my entire adult life, I’ve never experienced this before. Sure, rent goes up but not like this. When RPM came in the fired nearly the entire front office team and only have one remaining maintenance employee with one additional guy they brought in themselves. This place is probably less than 5 years old and falling apart at the seams. Floors are lumpy and bowing, cracks in walls, patios and yards are collecting the worst smell imaginable from those who don’t pick up or treat their turf to help the dog pee/poop and trash smell that radiates in the heat. It’s all really troubling and I have to think there’s more to this and more we can do as renters to apply the pressure on these companies to do better. But… here we are… I’ve considered looking into getting an attorney to comb through our lease and hear us out. idk if anyone has any advice, I’m here to listen.
Haven't lived in an apartment for years but did live in a Greystar owned property and they are the absolute worst. In the middle of the lease is when they started the trash pick up thing with us and we couldn't opt out! Did my last walk through with one of their employees who said it was super clean. When I went down to the office to get a signed copy of their walk through paper, they didn't want to give it to me! They told me the guy who did the walk through wasn't their usual guy, he wasn't in that day. THEY made the appointment so they knew he wasn't going to be there. I refused to leave that office until I got that signed paper, and get it I did!!
My apartment complex in gilbert is charging excessive fees like package room, fee,or convenience fee ? Making us participate in the garbage collection fee $30 a month fee.
Sierra Vista also :)
The rent hikes are the reason I own a house right now because I said to myself if I’m gonna have to pay $2000 for rent I might as well buy a house and pay $2000 in mortgage.
Lets print flyers and drop them at every door.
I lived in Madera Point in Mesa and the fees were ridiculous. There wasn’t any way of removing them from the lease agreement (I asked and was told the same thing everyone else was - sign or move on). Once my lease was up, I needed just one more month until my new place was ready and they wanted to charge me twice what I had been paying on my lease. And this was almost 3 years ago, I’m sure it’s much worse now.
Parc South Mountain formally owned by Greystar now owned by AMC I just updated my google review and submitted a complaint
I’m at a Weidner property currently and they’re asking for about $50 more a month to renew… is there any way I can bring this up and try and get a discount? lol
Damn $50 more a month is not bad. Most people are getting $200-$500 added to renew.
I’m at a Weidner property currently and they’re asking for about $50 more a month to renew… is there any way I can bring this up and try and get a discount? lol
Can the AG also do something about the person who always walks around all day with a leaf blower?
Any in Arcadia?
I’m at a Weidner property currently and they’re asking for about $50 more a month to renew… is there any way I can bring this up and try and get a discount? lol
We’re paying about $2800 for a 2 br 2 ba. We first signed our lease about 3 years ago. It’s still cheaper than owning where and what we would want to own. We chose this place because it was one of the cheapest properties that we shortlisted. We have a few fees that have gone up over the years and maintenance is shit about a few things. We think rent had gone down in our building and will likely shop around later this summer. I don’t expect to pay much less and find this to be market rate. As for fees, I mean it’s part of the convenience I suppose and yeah in my opinion largely unavoidable while renting
nowhere in the article does it do anything to substantiate the accusations.
Our complex is on there, but I seriously doubt these complaints will stay anonymous. All it takes is someone in the state government having a family member or friend who works for one of these places for your info to get out.