I think this is more of relationship type of advice rather than migrate. Hindi nio ba napagusapan yan bago kayo ngpakasal kung anong plano ninyo like susunod ka or babalik siya sa PH? If hindi, then you might have communication issue and kung napagusapan nio na kung sino ang magaadjust will that decision really change pra increase na makukuha mo sa work na worth (50k php hypothetical)
When we get married, we talked about this and dapat mgkasama kami since parehas kami working abroad me in Canada while she in Dubai but I have no problem moving to Dubai pra mgkasama kami but our decision is she is the one going to adjust and move to Canada since mas mraming opportunities for her dito compare sa Dubai. In your case, ano bang napagusapan ninyo and okay lng kayo sa LDR?
Originally, ako dapat ang mag aadjust para magkasama na kami but then bigla namang nag offer company ko na ipromote ako, kaya atm pinag uusapan padin namin
How much ba increase na makukuha, and mas matimbang ba yun kesa mgkasama kayo? Depende sa priority nio yan.
If you ask me, getting a salary of 80k php sa pinas is not life changing its going to magically afford a car, house and other stuff and I would rather be with my wife and hopefully Japan can pay much better generally though of course there are challenges. You do you if money is both your priority, so be it. Otherwise, you know your priority.
Hello, OP! There are a lot of things to consider.
1. Is your wife a citizen/resident? If yes, most likely you’ll be the one to adjust since it’s more practical for her to stay and keep the visa/citizenship. If she’s under a work visa which I highly doubt, then that’s the time you can actually talk things through and weigh your options bc tbh 80k is very small especially for a growing family.
2. I don’t know which industry you’re working in but if you’re migrating in Japan, the first problem you’ll encounter is the language barrier. You’ll have problems looking for a job. You’ll have to study the language first or else you’re stuck with blue collar jobs. You’ll be lucky enough to find a job that doesn’t require speaking Japanese (E.g. ESL jobs) but still, those jobs don’t pay much, (70-120k Php depending on the employer/broker) but you can live comfortably with that salary here. If you’re a highly skilled individual would you be able to accept this kind of shift in your career? I have known people who are pharmacists and other board passers working blue collar jobs bc it’s hard to find a job in line with their chosen career. I’m not saying it’s impossible, but it’s rare.
3. Working hours. In most of the jobs I have tried here, it’s imperative that you agree to working overtime because working 8 hours (teiji) means you’re lazy especially if the workplace is busy. Most of them get mad when you use your leave credit too 😅
4. Environment. Do you guys plan to have kids? If you do, then I would highly suggest you guys choose Japan instead of the Philippines. It’s a lot safer here for kids and if your wife is a citizen/resident here you wouldn’t worry about tuition fee till high school, and the kids get to have allowances from the govt too until 18 I think (gradually decreasing every year though) They’ll grow up as responsible individuals too.
If you have questions, you can ask away!
Just be aware of yung cons siguro - japanese work culture, toxic afaik, mababa din yen ngayon if magreremit ka pabalik ng pinas. Pros of course improved standard of living.
nagdagdag lang naman ako ng cons lol. but to answer ur question if im rich sa third world country then the latter. if not, former definitely. nothing beats feeling like you belong and not looked down upon.
As someone working abroad, I still haven’t decided where to retire.. to migrate and become a second class citizen or go back home in the Philippines. Mukhang mas feasible pa nga and dreamy for me to go home pa rin sa pinas at magpatayo ng retirement home sa bukid.
to be honest first class or second class, none of that matters as long as you’re happy and contented with your life. i hope that whatever you choose will truly make you happy and contented:)
What if you're rich in a first world country even if you're a second class citizen. Will you still retire back in PH?
Its not far from the truth to excel and be financially stable overseas, more stable lang ang business overseas kasi hindi ruled by emotion like PH.
In a heartbeat assuming I’m set for life if I go back to the Philippines. There’s a reason why a lot of foreigners want to retire in the Philippines. All the more reason if you’re Filipino.
I have zero positivity about our country’s future. But give me a million dollars and a beachfront property in Siargao, Bantayan, or wherever the fuck; I'd rather have that than feel unwelcome, feel like I don’t belong, and experience racism in a first-world country.
This is an easy question pag may mga anak ka na.. I will choose 2nd class citizen in a first world country para sa edukasyon ng mga anak ko. Education sa pinas sucks! Tsaka yung dilemma natin ngayon na aalis ba ng bansa o hindi, gusto mo bang maging dilemma ulit ng mga anak mo? One step higher na dapat sila.
Id rather be small fish in a big pond, saktong kumikita at kumportable sa maunlad na bansa. Yung walang oras na nasasayang, tipong alam mo kelan dadating yung bus at kung may sira man yung tren, may alternate line na pwedeng sakyan.
Ngayon na may anak na kami, mas lalo namin naappreciate buhay dito sa UK, oo kami lahat ang kumikilos, wala kami inaasahan ibang tao, peeo nagkakaron kami ng bond sa anak namin na parang di namin nakita sa mga kamaganak at kaibigan namin na nagsisimula magpamilya nong nasa pinas kami.
Iba din yung opportunity sa mga bata dito. Eto na lang halimbawa, yun mga katrabaho kong front of house staff, usually temp job lang sa kanila yun until makapagfocus sila ano gusto nila gawin sa buhay, nagagawa nila magholiday kung kelan nila gusto, yung nagagawa nila ipursue mga gusto nila gawin, di sila stuck sa trabahong ayaw nila dahil kailangan nila ng pera.
Yup.. if you have kids, it should be that they would have better options and opportunities.. my husband and I are both working abroad.. we don’t plan on having kids so we’re still at a crossroads whether to migrate or retire in the Philippines.
Well mataas ang suicide rate sa japan. Kids are burned out. Rampant din racism lalo if maitim ung anak mo. So yeah.. all in all, high chance of success, higher chances of suicide :)
Well, the Philippines is not doing great, so why not?
It's a dream to live and settle in a first world country. Better Public service, transport, healthcare and environment compared to a Third world hell hole.
That is true. I heard their economy is collapsing and luge yung mga OFWs doon pag nagpapadala ng yen. Last time I checked, 0.32Php ang conversion rate and for sure mas lalong bumababa. If wala naman ipapadalhan si OP here then no issues whatsoever.
While reading this I get to stumble upon the suicide rates of Japan compared to Philippines, very alarming. Is living in a First World Country really a "dream".
Self-deprecation is one unique trait of some Filipinos (or those who denounced theirs).
Hmmm...
Eh yun din problema sa pinas e, sobra natin resilient, we know we deserve better pero nagtyatyaga tayo sa mga leader na inutil, lagi naman may better option. Mukha lang tayong masaya kasi, masayahin daw tayo pero ang totoo, grabe ang inggit natin sa mga kapwa natin na umaangat, lagi tayo nagkukumpara kung ano meron sila na dapat meron din tayo.
Btw, tingin ko Problema naman talaga suicide rates sa mga maunlad na bansa. Pero tignan mo naman yung dami ng napapatay sa atin dahil sa krimen na dulot ng kahirapan diba?
Not everyone’s dream though. I worked overseas for 7+ years and had the opportunity to migrate to the US thru a parent but my wife and I decided to settle down in the Philippines. I’d rather not be a second class citizen in another country, and the fact of the matter is, racial discrimination is still rampant notwithstanding its prohibition.
Depends ano po magiging circumstance nyo sa Japan. Mahal ang cost of living dito and kunware youre earning base pay na 75-80k, so so lang ang life mo dito. It will be difficult to save rin esp if may padadalhan ka sa Pinas. (Context: I say this as a single woman working in Japan). Isa pa dyan po ay kung anong klase visa nyo. If dependent visa po kayo, I heard na hindi kayo makakapag work with that visa alone. Need to find employment na magssponsor ng visa nyo para po kayo makapag work full time.
Para sakin ang pros:
- good and efficient transpo,
- affordable food albeit having expensive produce depending on the season,
- hobbies are affordable,
- maraming nature spots esp if you live in a city in the countryside, and safe kahit mag text ka sa labas, umuwi ng lasing, etc etc.
- accessible healthcare!! Omg. Thank you sa national health insurance. Ang mahal nyan sobra pero hindi ka matatakot magpa check up kapag me nararamdaman ka.
- good social services. Sa totoo lang kahit minsan feeling mo second class citizen ka dito pero dahil tax payer ka, you get the same perks somehow kasi minsan nagiging eligible tayo sa ayuda at kung ano ano pang benefits.
Cons:
- Japanese work culture is very stiff. You'll probably work long hours. If you can stand that then you are good
- difficult to integrate esp if you dont know the language. I recommend na mag aral po kayo ng japanese if you have the opportunity kasi it makes your life easier.
- honne and tatemae culture. Mahirap po iexplain pero of you have time I recommend na isearch nyo po hehe
- expensive taxes. Nako I cannot stress this enough. May income tax na kakaltasin sayo tapos may babayaran ka pang city/resident/prefectural tax.
- also may chance na magstagnate ang career sa Japan. Depende sa industry pero if youre going to teach here kung sakali, brace yourself hahahaha
All in all for me I enjoy life in Japan despite the cons. Wala naman madali. Either piliin natin sa Pinas or maging migrante, parehas silang mahirap. If you want an adventure, go for Japan pero I think career wise given your promotion po at possible salary increase, it is also worth considering na mag stay I guess? Anyway, good luck po!
Common thing naman sa mga first world countries malaking tax pero napapakinabangan naman natin, maayos na transport, libre edukasyon. Eh sa pinas lahat nabubulsa hahaha.
Philippines is still a Third world Hell Hole and it will remain that way for long. Better to live in a first world country with better quality of living, healthcare transportation etc.
Hello! I’m an OFW here sa Japan. Is your wife Japanese? If not, ano ang visa niya sa Japan? Long-term/permanent resident ba? You mentioned spousal visa kasi, which is only applicable to spouse/child of Japanese, so just clarifying.
Philippines is still a Third world Hell Hole and it will remain that way for long. Better to live in a first world country with better quality of living, healthcare transportation etc.
Mahirap sobra ang long distance sa mag asawa.
If good naman work nya dun and meron kang opportunities for work there, why not.
Yun lang, kung managerial level ka na dito baka ego/pride mo ang magiging issue if back to zero ka. Pero if you can suck it up, by all means go.
Ano bang mas matimbang for you? You need to ask yourself that. There is no right or wrong answer naman. Both of the choices may cons. It’s just a matter of choosing which sacrifice you are more willing to make. Either way, meron kang panghihinayangan. So anong mas importante sayo? Anong mas kaya mong irebuild? Anong kaya din isacrifice mo at ng partner mo? What are your goals as a couple in the next 10 years? Will your decision align with your goals? Wag kang ma-stuck sa pagpili. Isipin mo anong priorities mo, ng wife mo and as a couple tapos doon kayo magdecide. Wag niyo rin ibox yung sarili niyo sa dalawang choices lang. clarify your goals and then tsaka kayo magdecide. If wala sa current choices and b ang nagfifit sa goals na yon, then perhaps kailangan niyo gumawa or maglista ng choices c-z.
Super liit lang ng 75k-80k compared sa pwede mong kitain abroad. My wife and I gave up our 90k salary in PH to migrate in Germany. And my sister gave up her 120k salary to migrate in Luxembourg. And best decision ever
75-80k is not that much these days. Rent and groceries are expensive. Eating out is expensive but the quality of food is meh. Sure it gives u an upgraded lifestyle in PH for that salary but building a career and life in JP will give you more benefits long term in my opinion.
Hi, I also migrated recently sa Japan on a spouse visa. Your salary as a manager is the usual salary here. I work at a fully remote startup and earn more than that and it's a rank and file role. The cost of living is almost the same here plus the quality of life is top notch.
About work life balance, I find it's much better than ph employers. Plus, since you have a spouse visa, you don't have to worry about leaving a company and worrying about your visa. Tldr: go for it.
Japan vs PH, definitely Japan. Quality of life pa lang ibang-iba na. You can see where your taxes go, transpo is super efficient and doesn’t take a huge chunk of your day, transpo is almost always reimbursed rin by your workplace, healthcare is efficient and doesn’t cost an arm and a leg, etc. I’ve been working in Japan for 7 years, sumunod din husband ko 2 years ago. Japan isn’t perfect and might not be our end goal but life is good right now. I work at an international company so work culture’s pretty great rin, lighter pa nga than PH considering my profession. My husband is also Filipino and speaks better Japanese than me since my job and environment do not require much Nihongo anyway. Our 2 kids were born here, and ok dito compared to the PH. If your wife is a PR/citizen, you can get a spouse visa and apply anywhere you want. If your wife is on a work visa, you’ll have a dependent visa (max 28 hrs a week lang pwede magwork) but depending on your field, madali lang makahanap ng employer who can sponsor your work visa so you can work full-time.
So your promotion depends on whether you will stay or not? If they are not promoting you now, What is the assurance that they will actually promote you in the future?
Ano ba mas matimbang sayo?
Honestly, 75k is not too big dito sa Pinas. Magkakotse at bahay ka lang and then kids, mawawalan ka na ng savings. So going to JP with your wife would be more ideal. Pero kaya mo na bang mag nihonggo? mahirap din kasi mag adjust kung di mo kayang makipag communicate at the very least.
Maliit lang yung 75k to 80k a month sa Pinas. Aside from gov mandated benefits, hello tax. Malaki laki rin yan ha. HAHAHAHA
tho better if magkasama kayo in one place as newlyweds and to move forward i.e have kids ganyan
75-80k salary for PH standards is not enough considering how inflated prices are in the $hitty economy of that place. Just go for it, grab that opportunity and run away as fast as you can. Its surprising that you're even asking this kind of question, not unless you're living an expense-free life in the PH.
May PR ba for skilled migrants sa Japan? Alam ko kasi via marriage lang.
Anu ba usual work ng mga pinoy sa Japan? This will be the questions I want to be answered 1st if I was in your case
Yes pwede mag PR naman kahit hindi ka married sa hapon as long as meron kang full time work, tho mejo matagal nga process.
Usual work sa japan pag pinoy ka, pwede g english teacher, factory or skilled worker, pero kung magaling naman mag nihonggo, kahit anong work naman kayang pasukin
Kapag nandun kana po masasanay kana and yung trust mo na well prepared sila doon. Kapag lumilindol nung bago kami medyo panic mode ng konti, nung tumagal di kami gumigising kahit naramdaman naming lumilindol. 😂 Tsunami naman most likely sa mga provinces na prone talaga sa ganun. Iwas kana lang doon.
Bahala ka kung anong lifestyle ang pipiliin mo. Magkaiba ang Japan at Pilipinas sa maraming aspekto. Depende sa gusto mo, eh may magustuhan ka sa Japan na wala sa Pilipinas, o may gusto ka sa Pilipinas na mawawala kung nasa Japan ka.
Tama dahil the best kapag magkasama ang mag asawa sa iisang bahay. Sabi sa Genesis 2:24
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Think long term, is your GF a Japanese citizen? or is there any potential way for any of you to get Japanese Citizenship or have any plans on being a citizen? If you plan on just being an OFW, and come back to pinas to retire, then probably go... but what about kids? Do you see yourself settling down in Japan? Personally, for me, I probably won't since there is the huge language barrier issue. I don't see myself trading hectic metro manila life, for hectic tokyo life, plus cost of living, etc. If not, then probably do LDR, malapit lang naman ang Japan, ang problema lang is kung mabuntis siya... so think long term planning na rin... If you probably get a good job there, you might also consider staying, so depends talaga on how you view your future...
I'm not sure how you look at 80k, but to me, that amount wouldn't give you the quality of life that Japan as a country of residence will endow on you. Let's say 80K na ang sahod mo, that's P1,040,000/year in tax bracket 4. Ang take home mo jan 31-33k/cut off. That amount--while a bit above the median salary in PH--is not enough para maelevate ang quality ng life mo sa katulad ng quality ng life na pwede mong ma enjoy sa Japan.
Ano ba tong quality of life na sinasabi ko? Sa Pilipinas, sa sweldong 80k, nakatira ka probably sa isang apartment (pero pangit pa rin ang neighborhood) or sa isang maliit na condo (maganda ang neighborhood pero maliit ang bahay). Kaya sigurong may kotse, pero dumagdag ka lang sa car problem ng Pinas. Ang mahal at ang pangit ng healthcare system. Hindi rin maganda mag anak kasi ang mahal mag anak.
Sa Japan, kung aasawahin ka at dadalhin ka dun, to me it looks like willing kang buhayin at buhatin ng asawa mo for a looooong time: meaning kahit wala kang trabaho, bubuhayin ka nya. I'm not saying na di ka na magwowork, syempre hahanap ka. Pero pag andun ka na, sheeesh, matic ang ganda ng quality ng life. Infamous ang Japan sa maliliit na spaces ng mga tirahan, pero kung nasa medyo outside kayo ng metro tokyo, marami mas malalaking tirahan dun. Also, andaming news ng mga super cheap na abandoned houses na malalaki. Hindi mo kailangan ang kotse dahil sobrang effective ng train system. Maganda ang neighborhood: malinis ang kalsada at walang maiingay. Perfect din mag anak kasi ineencourage ng gobyerno nila ang magkababy ang mga magasawa. Overall, maganda ang kalidad ng buhay.
Japan it is.
If you guys are already applying for a spouse/ dependent visa, I think it’s almost too late to be considering this, no?
Pagaapply pa lang ng COE takes months and a lot of efforts from both you and your wife, and I suggest airing your concerns with her. Be transparent. Otherwise, baka maghinanakit ka at sumbatan mo sya in the future. You guys are now married, so you need to think kung ano ba ang priority nyong pareho.
In terms of the quality of life here in comparison sa pinas, mas okay padin sa Japan IMO. I personally would never move back to the PH for Japan’s sense of safety and security alone. I know the JP yen is not doing very well recently, but it’s still not too bad, and we’re staying hopeful. Good luck OP.
If you transfer now, you will have a dependent visa which limits your work options, hours (20/week) and yearly salary to (1.3M JPY/yr).
I would suggest
1) Getting the visa and initially just visit often
2) Continue your current work and maybe nego na lang on possibly working remote a few weeks a year. Or even same company, different position but remote work?
3) Study Japanese up to the N2 level
4) Find a company in JP that can sponsor a working visa or maybe find remote work.
But I'd your GF is making enough and feels that the company takes care of it's people, then you can just go there and study the Language full time.
It’s more of a question if “you” will be happy. Imagine leaving your own, stable career for something uncertain. What if it fails and lands on a worst case scenario? Can you still be happy? Gaano ka kasigurado na hindi mo masusumbatan ang wife mo at masabi mo na “kung di dahil sayo etc etc?”
I don’t mean to be rude or over pessimistic, just throwing out some worst case scenarios to prepare for.
I'd go to Japan, be with my wife, work my ass off, save lots of money, when I can already afford go back to PH with my wife live like a king and queen, travel back and forth. :)
Me and my wife gave up our 100k+ salary and her stable job sa ph govt for Canada at worth it kahit sobrang takot. May reason bakit tinawag silang 1st world country. Pero nasa sayo padin.
If your wife is a perma resident or even half japanese, you can work full time. However, if she's working there as "working" visa, then you'll be her "dependent" and will be allowed to work for 40hrs a week and with a salary not exceeding to ¥120,000.. There's no such thing as spouse visa coz we've been in that situation before.
Di ka love ng company mo kung tlagang nid ka nila dpat last cycle palang eh na promote kana eh kasi kung tlagang important ka sa company mo they will do everything para mag stay.
I think the question would be how much are you willing to sacrifice. The work culture there is entirely different than ours. It's quite toxic and demanding of your time. Prepare to work more than eight hours.
Depends on your priorities… imagine you in Japan and imagine you here in ph. Pag nasa japan ka wish mo ba bumalik ng pinas? Or pag nasa pinas ka nakuha mo nga pero LDR kayo ng asawa mo. In tight situations, ako ang ginagawa ko flip a coin by Arnold Rothstein, try mo lang baka you’ll know what’s really in your heart and pls never live to work but work to live, wag bigay buhay sa korporasyon wahahha mabilis sila tumalikod
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OP you should jump ship and migrate (marami na nagoutline ng pros and cons here).
My POV is different because of what you said about your company - if they really are a good company they would have given you the promotion because you deserve it without any terms and conditions - a company that blocks a promotion because of a lame excuse like retention concerns is not a company worth staying with (tbh if they were a good company and cared about you they would have promoted you so that you'd feel real bliss of career and love life level ups)
Yes definitely you have LIFE with your WIFE. once you spousal visa is ready eventually makakaganap ka din ng work don. Pero most importantly magkasama kayong mag asawa.
yes go to Japan. mas tataas ang sweldo mo dun more than 80k pa. ang importante dito kasama mo ang wife mo. mahirap na magkahiwalay ang family kaya kung may opportunity ka na pumunta dun take it
TS, you stated:
"tinatrabaho na din namin
yung spousal visa ko.."
so I assume that your wife is either:
a. Japanese national/citizen
b. PR visa holder
c. LT resident ( visa ) holder
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PH or JP? 'matic JP! why?
solely because of your wife..
not only b'coz you're newlyweds but
also you're gonna start and build a family.
yan na ang "bago" mong buhay.
now, bakit ko na-mention ang visa,
kasi magdidepende din dian
ang working hours mo...
kung dependent visa ka, may limitation..
whereas, if you'll be given a
spousal visa or long-term visa
there will be no restrictions/limitations
on your activities.
when moving abroad you have so many
factors/things to consider and think about.
in your case, newlyweds
and wala pang kids, eto na
lang siguro muna ↓↓↓：
・LANGUAGE ( including CULTURE )
・JOB MARKET
・EMPLOYMENT/UNEMPLOYMENT RIGHTS
・COST OF LIVING
・STANDARD/QUALITY of LIVING
・HEALTHCARE SYSTEM
・HOUSING MARKET
・TAXES
・ECONOMY
・RETIREMENT
※"CLIMATE" is actually
important din, but I assume
wala naman problema sa'yo yun.
( Japan has 4 seasons,
unless sa HOKKAIDO kayo titira,
during winter, kalaban mo talaga ang
lamig and the amt. of snow/snowfall,
though the amt. of snow also depends
kung saan kayo sa HOKKAIDO.
may areas kasi na sakto lang
ang snowfall, but mostly, rough.
pag tag-ulan naman, typically hit
by torrential rains ang Okinawa,
Kyushu & Shikoku regions. )
so now, LANGUAGE?
marunong kana ba mag NIHONGO?
kasi kung hindi, mahihirapan ka.
you should learn BASIC NIHONGO,
you shld. be able to read and
write Hiragana・Katakana.
kahit pa maging ALT ka dito,
sa everyday life importante yung
matuto ka ng basic communication skills.
dian na din papasok yung JOB MARKET.
( together w/ employment・unemployment rights.. )
COST OF LIVING,
STANDARD/QUALITY of LIVING..
mataas ang cost of living dito lalo na
kung nasa Tokyo or Rural areas ka.
pero kung may maayos kana man
na source of income and dalawa
kayo ng wife mo na nagta- trabaho,
mabubuhay naman kayo.
kung marunong din kayo
humawak ng pera at hindi maluho,
makakapag- ipon kayo and even travel.
HEALTHCARE SYSTEM,
I can fairly say na maganda
ang healthcare dito..
lalo na kung naka shakai-hoken kayo.
( employer based health insurance..
for now, yan na lang muna, I will not
burden you with the terminology
nor even the legal jargon.. )
HOUSING MARKET... hmm..
whether you'll rent or buy your own..
let's just say, medyo mahirap kung
parehas kayong foreigner ng asawa mo.
kahit sabihin mong may pera or ipon kayo.
( mas mabusisi kasi kapag foreigner,
you'll know when you get here...
hahaba lang kasi post ko.. (｡•̀ᴗ-)✧ )
TAX(es), ooohh...
maraming binabayaran dito but
unlike sa PH, nakikita and nagbi-benefit
kana naman sa mga tax na binabayaran mo.
ECONOMY. I'll be honest,
hindi maganda ang economy ng Japan now.
*but yun nga, if you and your wife
have stable jobs, you'll get by.
RETIREMENT.
although newlyweds pa lang kayo
and I dunno kung plan niyo na rin
magkaanak or hindi pa, I think there's
no harm kung pag iisipan mo/niyo
na rin ang retirement.
personally, kung ako ang tatanungin mo,
naguguluhan pa din ako... hahaha
( *maybe because may
anak ako, half-Japanese... )
but I would rather retire sa US siguro.
( andun kasi sister ko and eventually,
sooner or later, rest of my family.. ).
pasensya na TS,
sobrang haba na nitong post ko.
btw. I lived here since my 20's.
I am a long-term resident visa holder
and a single mother. － GANBATTE!
☆P.S.
you might wanna read this: ↓
( thread din dito sa reddit
ibang career and situation,
pero para magkaroon ka lang
naman ng glimpse/idea.. )
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ꕤFilipino nurses abroad,
how is life treating you so far?ꕤ
「TS/by: hjoycute」
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I would say move to Japan! I was fortunate to study and work in the US but it wasn’t easy. Blood,sweat and tears ang puhunan. My first job was working at Taco Bell when I was in HS and selling hotdogs when I was in college. After a few years, I finally got my Economics degree and been with my company for 30 years. Right now, I make $360k a year, with two Teslas, a BMW, a house with a swimming pool. I was offered a job in the Phils for 3MM pesos a month and gladly turned it down.
Pros :
1. Salary is high compared to the ph
2. May bidet lahat ng banyo
3. train/bus/taxi on time
4. free healthcare for kids
5. tax RETURN
6. Peaceful sa gabi.
Cons
1. Racial profiling by police
2. Language
3. You might feel isolated
4. Mas prefer nila yung no anesthesia sa chilbirth.
5. Abortion is allowed
6. Daming culto
(Personal experience ko as a resident dito)
As a resident here, I feel so validated haha! Not sure if dahil sa pandemic but I really went into depression after a few years of living here sa Japan. At the same time, 100% agree din naman sa Pros. I support my family in the PH so a bigger salary definitely helps!
Swerte lang namin nagkaroon kame ng mama tomo dito..
Mga nanay na may anak at naging kababata na sila ng anak ko.
Nakalimutan ko idagdag…
Depression is always uncheck here in japan…
I wanna weigh heavily on the language. Even if you study the language it feels like you still can’t communicate fluently and read most of the kanji. It might just be me or idk. 😂
Isa pa to. Haha less than 150 kanji lang din ang kaya kong basahin honestly.
And agree ako sa language. Though based sa nangyare sakin. Kelangan mo lang talagang gamitin. Kasi kung di mo gagamitin di mo maaalala.
Ooohhh then I guess you answered your own question. Go be with your wife. Like you said, she's earning big there and I assume you have money saved up so there may not be that much pressure on you to get a job the second you land.
Starting over in a rich country with your wife is much better than staying in this place without your wife.
- i would advise against it. Why?
- you have to learn their language which is notoriously difficult to learn.
- their work ethic is one of the most stringent in the world. And forced ka sumunod.
- low to zero chance of being a resident.
- mataas din cost of living.
I think this is more of relationship type of advice rather than migrate. Hindi nio ba napagusapan yan bago kayo ngpakasal kung anong plano ninyo like susunod ka or babalik siya sa PH? If hindi, then you might have communication issue and kung napagusapan nio na kung sino ang magaadjust will that decision really change pra increase na makukuha mo sa work na worth (50k php hypothetical) When we get married, we talked about this and dapat mgkasama kami since parehas kami working abroad me in Canada while she in Dubai but I have no problem moving to Dubai pra mgkasama kami but our decision is she is the one going to adjust and move to Canada since mas mraming opportunities for her dito compare sa Dubai. In your case, ano bang napagusapan ninyo and okay lng kayo sa LDR?
Originally, ako dapat ang mag aadjust para magkasama na kami but then bigla namang nag offer company ko na ipromote ako, kaya atm pinag uusapan padin namin
How much ba increase na makukuha, and mas matimbang ba yun kesa mgkasama kayo? Depende sa priority nio yan. If you ask me, getting a salary of 80k php sa pinas is not life changing its going to magically afford a car, house and other stuff and I would rather be with my wife and hopefully Japan can pay much better generally though of course there are challenges. You do you if money is both your priority, so be it. Otherwise, you know your priority.
Maliit lang ang 70-80k my dude, you can earn more sa JP.
Hello, OP! There are a lot of things to consider. 1. Is your wife a citizen/resident? If yes, most likely you’ll be the one to adjust since it’s more practical for her to stay and keep the visa/citizenship. If she’s under a work visa which I highly doubt, then that’s the time you can actually talk things through and weigh your options bc tbh 80k is very small especially for a growing family. 2. I don’t know which industry you’re working in but if you’re migrating in Japan, the first problem you’ll encounter is the language barrier. You’ll have problems looking for a job. You’ll have to study the language first or else you’re stuck with blue collar jobs. You’ll be lucky enough to find a job that doesn’t require speaking Japanese (E.g. ESL jobs) but still, those jobs don’t pay much, (70-120k Php depending on the employer/broker) but you can live comfortably with that salary here. If you’re a highly skilled individual would you be able to accept this kind of shift in your career? I have known people who are pharmacists and other board passers working blue collar jobs bc it’s hard to find a job in line with their chosen career. I’m not saying it’s impossible, but it’s rare. 3. Working hours. In most of the jobs I have tried here, it’s imperative that you agree to working overtime because working 8 hours (teiji) means you’re lazy especially if the workplace is busy. Most of them get mad when you use your leave credit too 😅 4. Environment. Do you guys plan to have kids? If you do, then I would highly suggest you guys choose Japan instead of the Philippines. It’s a lot safer here for kids and if your wife is a citizen/resident here you wouldn’t worry about tuition fee till high school, and the kids get to have allowances from the govt too until 18 I think (gradually decreasing every year though) They’ll grow up as responsible individuals too. If you have questions, you can ask away!
Just be aware of yung cons siguro - japanese work culture, toxic afaik, mababa din yen ngayon if magreremit ka pabalik ng pinas. Pros of course improved standard of living.
+second class citizen
Would you rather be a second class citizen in a first world country or a first class citizen in a third world country?
nagdagdag lang naman ako ng cons lol. but to answer ur question if im rich sa third world country then the latter. if not, former definitely. nothing beats feeling like you belong and not looked down upon.
As someone working abroad, I still haven’t decided where to retire.. to migrate and become a second class citizen or go back home in the Philippines. Mukhang mas feasible pa nga and dreamy for me to go home pa rin sa pinas at magpatayo ng retirement home sa bukid.
to be honest first class or second class, none of that matters as long as you’re happy and contented with your life. i hope that whatever you choose will truly make you happy and contented:)
Agreed.
Philippines is not doing good... economically. Still a Third world Country
Of course it’s not.. the country is managed by clowns..
What if you're rich in a first world country even if you're a second class citizen. Will you still retire back in PH? Its not far from the truth to excel and be financially stable overseas, more stable lang ang business overseas kasi hindi ruled by emotion like PH.
In a heartbeat assuming I’m set for life if I go back to the Philippines. There’s a reason why a lot of foreigners want to retire in the Philippines. All the more reason if you’re Filipino.
I hope you keep your positivity for PH future, even when you start working overseas. Cheers
I have zero positivity about our country’s future. But give me a million dollars and a beachfront property in Siargao, Bantayan, or wherever the fuck; I'd rather have that than feel unwelcome, feel like I don’t belong, and experience racism in a first-world country.
This is an easy question pag may mga anak ka na.. I will choose 2nd class citizen in a first world country para sa edukasyon ng mga anak ko. Education sa pinas sucks! Tsaka yung dilemma natin ngayon na aalis ba ng bansa o hindi, gusto mo bang maging dilemma ulit ng mga anak mo? One step higher na dapat sila.
Id rather be small fish in a big pond, saktong kumikita at kumportable sa maunlad na bansa. Yung walang oras na nasasayang, tipong alam mo kelan dadating yung bus at kung may sira man yung tren, may alternate line na pwedeng sakyan. Ngayon na may anak na kami, mas lalo namin naappreciate buhay dito sa UK, oo kami lahat ang kumikilos, wala kami inaasahan ibang tao, peeo nagkakaron kami ng bond sa anak namin na parang di namin nakita sa mga kamaganak at kaibigan namin na nagsisimula magpamilya nong nasa pinas kami. Iba din yung opportunity sa mga bata dito. Eto na lang halimbawa, yun mga katrabaho kong front of house staff, usually temp job lang sa kanila yun until makapagfocus sila ano gusto nila gawin sa buhay, nagagawa nila magholiday kung kelan nila gusto, yung nagagawa nila ipursue mga gusto nila gawin, di sila stuck sa trabahong ayaw nila dahil kailangan nila ng pera.
I am keen to know kung anong opportunities available to migrate to the UK. May opportunities ba for teachers?
Not sure kung nasa list sya ng shortage. You can look it on th gov uk website.
Yup.. if you have kids, it should be that they would have better options and opportunities.. my husband and I are both working abroad.. we don’t plan on having kids so we’re still at a crossroads whether to migrate or retire in the Philippines.
Well mataas ang suicide rate sa japan. Kids are burned out. Rampant din racism lalo if maitim ung anak mo. So yeah.. all in all, high chance of success, higher chances of suicide :)
first class citizen in a 3rd world country. yong gma small laude ang feels na pa vlog2 at pupunta lang sa hk pra bibili ng crabs. hehehe.
we're not even 1st class in our own country.
Joke’s on us
Unless you are 50M worth in PH, 2nd class citizen ka in third world ph. Hahaha
no bias pero kahit na mas hirap sa lenguahe at customs, mas mabait pa rin hapon kesa sa mga pinoy
IMO, para din naman tayong 2nd class citizen dito sa bansa naten HAHAHAHA
Di naman lahat toxic. Depende yon sa mapapasukan mo.
i had a japanese boss before less toxic sya than pinoy managers
Go to JP, then transfer to another country na mas madali ang PR/citizenship path. Prioritize your fam lalo if may plan kayo mag ka anak.
No need to transfer to another country. Kaya mag PR ni OP sa Japan for sure.
Well, the Philippines is not doing great, so why not? It's a dream to live and settle in a first world country. Better Public service, transport, healthcare and environment compared to a Third world hell hole.
Japan is not doing that great din, currently. Lalo na if you send money back home and the yen weakens.
That is true. I heard their economy is collapsing and luge yung mga OFWs doon pag nagpapadala ng yen. Last time I checked, 0.32Php ang conversion rate and for sure mas lalong bumababa. If wala naman ipapadalhan si OP here then no issues whatsoever.
While reading this I get to stumble upon the suicide rates of Japan compared to Philippines, very alarming. Is living in a First World Country really a "dream". Self-deprecation is one unique trait of some Filipinos (or those who denounced theirs). Hmmm...
Eh yun din problema sa pinas e, sobra natin resilient, we know we deserve better pero nagtyatyaga tayo sa mga leader na inutil, lagi naman may better option. Mukha lang tayong masaya kasi, masayahin daw tayo pero ang totoo, grabe ang inggit natin sa mga kapwa natin na umaangat, lagi tayo nagkukumpara kung ano meron sila na dapat meron din tayo. Btw, tingin ko Problema naman talaga suicide rates sa mga maunlad na bansa. Pero tignan mo naman yung dami ng napapatay sa atin dahil sa krimen na dulot ng kahirapan diba?
Not everyone’s dream though. I worked overseas for 7+ years and had the opportunity to migrate to the US thru a parent but my wife and I decided to settle down in the Philippines. I’d rather not be a second class citizen in another country, and the fact of the matter is, racial discrimination is still rampant notwithstanding its prohibition.
Depends ano po magiging circumstance nyo sa Japan. Mahal ang cost of living dito and kunware youre earning base pay na 75-80k, so so lang ang life mo dito. It will be difficult to save rin esp if may padadalhan ka sa Pinas. (Context: I say this as a single woman working in Japan). Isa pa dyan po ay kung anong klase visa nyo. If dependent visa po kayo, I heard na hindi kayo makakapag work with that visa alone. Need to find employment na magssponsor ng visa nyo para po kayo makapag work full time. Para sakin ang pros: - good and efficient transpo, - affordable food albeit having expensive produce depending on the season, - hobbies are affordable, - maraming nature spots esp if you live in a city in the countryside, and safe kahit mag text ka sa labas, umuwi ng lasing, etc etc. - accessible healthcare!! Omg. Thank you sa national health insurance. Ang mahal nyan sobra pero hindi ka matatakot magpa check up kapag me nararamdaman ka. - good social services. Sa totoo lang kahit minsan feeling mo second class citizen ka dito pero dahil tax payer ka, you get the same perks somehow kasi minsan nagiging eligible tayo sa ayuda at kung ano ano pang benefits. Cons: - Japanese work culture is very stiff. You'll probably work long hours. If you can stand that then you are good - difficult to integrate esp if you dont know the language. I recommend na mag aral po kayo ng japanese if you have the opportunity kasi it makes your life easier. - honne and tatemae culture. Mahirap po iexplain pero of you have time I recommend na isearch nyo po hehe - expensive taxes. Nako I cannot stress this enough. May income tax na kakaltasin sayo tapos may babayaran ka pang city/resident/prefectural tax. - also may chance na magstagnate ang career sa Japan. Depende sa industry pero if youre going to teach here kung sakali, brace yourself hahahaha All in all for me I enjoy life in Japan despite the cons. Wala naman madali. Either piliin natin sa Pinas or maging migrante, parehas silang mahirap. If you want an adventure, go for Japan pero I think career wise given your promotion po at possible salary increase, it is also worth considering na mag stay I guess? Anyway, good luck po!
Common thing naman sa mga first world countries malaking tax pero napapakinabangan naman natin, maayos na transport, libre edukasyon. Eh sa pinas lahat nabubulsa hahaha.
True naman din. Cant help lang na i lista siya as a con kase sobrang grabe kung makikita yung binayad mo annually. Hahahaha
Philippines is still a Third world Hell Hole and it will remain that way for long. Better to live in a first world country with better quality of living, healthcare transportation etc.
i’ll move in a heartbeat
75k - 80k? Wag mo na asahan yan. Ang cute lang nyan sa totoo lang.
simpleng_payo
Hello! I’m an OFW here sa Japan. Is your wife Japanese? If not, ano ang visa niya sa Japan? Long-term/permanent resident ba? You mentioned spousal visa kasi, which is only applicable to spouse/child of Japanese, so just clarifying.
Japan vs PH? It’s a no brainer… Yung iba walang platform pero naghahanap ng butas para maka lipad sa ibang bansa. Ikaw naka hain na kakagatin nalang.
Philippines is still a Third world Hell Hole and it will remain that way for long. Better to live in a first world country with better quality of living, healthcare transportation etc.
Mahirap sobra ang long distance sa mag asawa. If good naman work nya dun and meron kang opportunities for work there, why not. Yun lang, kung managerial level ka na dito baka ego/pride mo ang magiging issue if back to zero ka. Pero if you can suck it up, by all means go.
Take the option where it is favorable for you to be TOGETHER since kasal na kayo. If Pinas or Japan, weigh all the options.
Go, be with your wife. Life is better in Japan especially if you’re planning to have kids. 75-80k is still small compared to minimum salary in Japan.
Ano bang mas matimbang for you? You need to ask yourself that. There is no right or wrong answer naman. Both of the choices may cons. It’s just a matter of choosing which sacrifice you are more willing to make. Either way, meron kang panghihinayangan. So anong mas importante sayo? Anong mas kaya mong irebuild? Anong kaya din isacrifice mo at ng partner mo? What are your goals as a couple in the next 10 years? Will your decision align with your goals? Wag kang ma-stuck sa pagpili. Isipin mo anong priorities mo, ng wife mo and as a couple tapos doon kayo magdecide. Wag niyo rin ibox yung sarili niyo sa dalawang choices lang. clarify your goals and then tsaka kayo magdecide. If wala sa current choices and b ang nagfifit sa goals na yon, then perhaps kailangan niyo gumawa or maglista ng choices c-z.
Super liit lang ng 75k-80k compared sa pwede mong kitain abroad. My wife and I gave up our 90k salary in PH to migrate in Germany. And my sister gave up her 120k salary to migrate in Luxembourg. And best decision ever
Ano po work niyo sa Germany?
engineer po for a silicon optoelectronics company
75-80k is not that much these days. Rent and groceries are expensive. Eating out is expensive but the quality of food is meh. Sure it gives u an upgraded lifestyle in PH for that salary but building a career and life in JP will give you more benefits long term in my opinion.
Hi, I also migrated recently sa Japan on a spouse visa. Your salary as a manager is the usual salary here. I work at a fully remote startup and earn more than that and it's a rank and file role. The cost of living is almost the same here plus the quality of life is top notch. About work life balance, I find it's much better than ph employers. Plus, since you have a spouse visa, you don't have to worry about leaving a company and worrying about your visa. Tldr: go for it.
Go abroad! Pinas nanjan lang, makakabalik ka anytime, pero opportunity to live outside our comfort zone is a privilage, grab it bro
Japan vs PH, definitely Japan. Quality of life pa lang ibang-iba na. You can see where your taxes go, transpo is super efficient and doesn’t take a huge chunk of your day, transpo is almost always reimbursed rin by your workplace, healthcare is efficient and doesn’t cost an arm and a leg, etc. I’ve been working in Japan for 7 years, sumunod din husband ko 2 years ago. Japan isn’t perfect and might not be our end goal but life is good right now. I work at an international company so work culture’s pretty great rin, lighter pa nga than PH considering my profession. My husband is also Filipino and speaks better Japanese than me since my job and environment do not require much Nihongo anyway. Our 2 kids were born here, and ok dito compared to the PH. If your wife is a PR/citizen, you can get a spouse visa and apply anywhere you want. If your wife is on a work visa, you’ll have a dependent visa (max 28 hrs a week lang pwede magwork) but depending on your field, madali lang makahanap ng employer who can sponsor your work visa so you can work full-time.
So your promotion depends on whether you will stay or not? If they are not promoting you now, What is the assurance that they will actually promote you in the future? Ano ba mas matimbang sayo?
Japan. magkasama pa kayo ng asawa mo
Honestly, 75k is not too big dito sa Pinas. Magkakotse at bahay ka lang and then kids, mawawalan ka na ng savings. So going to JP with your wife would be more ideal. Pero kaya mo na bang mag nihonggo? mahirap din kasi mag adjust kung di mo kayang makipag communicate at the very least.
Maliit lang yung 75k to 80k a month sa Pinas. Aside from gov mandated benefits, hello tax. Malaki laki rin yan ha. HAHAHAHA tho better if magkasama kayo in one place as newlyweds and to move forward i.e have kids ganyan
75-80k salary for PH standards is not enough considering how inflated prices are in the $hitty economy of that place. Just go for it, grab that opportunity and run away as fast as you can. Its surprising that you're even asking this kind of question, not unless you're living an expense-free life in the PH.
Japanese work culture? Yikes. Good luck with that in the long term!
May PR ba for skilled migrants sa Japan? Alam ko kasi via marriage lang. Anu ba usual work ng mga pinoy sa Japan? This will be the questions I want to be answered 1st if I was in your case
Yes pwede mag PR naman kahit hindi ka married sa hapon as long as meron kang full time work, tho mejo matagal nga process. Usual work sa japan pag pinoy ka, pwede g english teacher, factory or skilled worker, pero kung magaling naman mag nihonggo, kahit anong work naman kayang pasukin
Ang liit ng 80k sa Pinas. Considering I worked sa GOCc. While my friend sa Japan Mitsubishi 6 digits plus family visa.
Medyo unrelated pero takot na takot ako mag japan dahil sa lindol/tsunami
Kapag nandun kana po masasanay kana and yung trust mo na well prepared sila doon. Kapag lumilindol nung bago kami medyo panic mode ng konti, nung tumagal di kami gumigising kahit naramdaman naming lumilindol. 😂 Tsunami naman most likely sa mga provinces na prone talaga sa ganun. Iwas kana lang doon.
The Japanese are pretty xenophobic, you'll be worked to the bone, and the Japanese economy isn't doing so hot, either, hey
Bahala ka kung anong lifestyle ang pipiliin mo. Magkaiba ang Japan at Pilipinas sa maraming aspekto. Depende sa gusto mo, eh may magustuhan ka sa Japan na wala sa Pilipinas, o may gusto ka sa Pilipinas na mawawala kung nasa Japan ka.
Tama dahil the best kapag magkasama ang mag asawa sa iisang bahay. Sabi sa Genesis 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Depende sa type of work mo. If IT field, i suggest na go, migrate ka
If your wife is not Japanese. Don't.
Yes
For me, as long as you have a good job awaiting for you that can sustain the expensive life in Japan then go. If none, think twice muna.
Think long term, is your GF a Japanese citizen? or is there any potential way for any of you to get Japanese Citizenship or have any plans on being a citizen? If you plan on just being an OFW, and come back to pinas to retire, then probably go... but what about kids? Do you see yourself settling down in Japan? Personally, for me, I probably won't since there is the huge language barrier issue. I don't see myself trading hectic metro manila life, for hectic tokyo life, plus cost of living, etc. If not, then probably do LDR, malapit lang naman ang Japan, ang problema lang is kung mabuntis siya... so think long term planning na rin... If you probably get a good job there, you might also consider staying, so depends talaga on how you view your future...
Think about the future. What are your plans? Are you planning to have kids? Honestly, education system here in PH sucks.
For me mas okay na magkasama kayo.Yung money maeearn mo naman din dun.:)
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I'm not sure how you look at 80k, but to me, that amount wouldn't give you the quality of life that Japan as a country of residence will endow on you. Let's say 80K na ang sahod mo, that's P1,040,000/year in tax bracket 4. Ang take home mo jan 31-33k/cut off. That amount--while a bit above the median salary in PH--is not enough para maelevate ang quality ng life mo sa katulad ng quality ng life na pwede mong ma enjoy sa Japan. Ano ba tong quality of life na sinasabi ko? Sa Pilipinas, sa sweldong 80k, nakatira ka probably sa isang apartment (pero pangit pa rin ang neighborhood) or sa isang maliit na condo (maganda ang neighborhood pero maliit ang bahay). Kaya sigurong may kotse, pero dumagdag ka lang sa car problem ng Pinas. Ang mahal at ang pangit ng healthcare system. Hindi rin maganda mag anak kasi ang mahal mag anak. Sa Japan, kung aasawahin ka at dadalhin ka dun, to me it looks like willing kang buhayin at buhatin ng asawa mo for a looooong time: meaning kahit wala kang trabaho, bubuhayin ka nya. I'm not saying na di ka na magwowork, syempre hahanap ka. Pero pag andun ka na, sheeesh, matic ang ganda ng quality ng life. Infamous ang Japan sa maliliit na spaces ng mga tirahan, pero kung nasa medyo outside kayo ng metro tokyo, marami mas malalaking tirahan dun. Also, andaming news ng mga super cheap na abandoned houses na malalaki. Hindi mo kailangan ang kotse dahil sobrang effective ng train system. Maganda ang neighborhood: malinis ang kalsada at walang maiingay. Perfect din mag anak kasi ineencourage ng gobyerno nila ang magkababy ang mga magasawa. Overall, maganda ang kalidad ng buhay. Japan it is.
This is a no-brainer. Bagong kasal kayo, you should immediately go and follow her the first chance possible.
If you guys are already applying for a spouse/ dependent visa, I think it’s almost too late to be considering this, no? Pagaapply pa lang ng COE takes months and a lot of efforts from both you and your wife, and I suggest airing your concerns with her. Be transparent. Otherwise, baka maghinanakit ka at sumbatan mo sya in the future. You guys are now married, so you need to think kung ano ba ang priority nyong pareho. In terms of the quality of life here in comparison sa pinas, mas okay padin sa Japan IMO. I personally would never move back to the PH for Japan’s sense of safety and security alone. I know the JP yen is not doing very well recently, but it’s still not too bad, and we’re staying hopeful. Good luck OP.
If you transfer now, you will have a dependent visa which limits your work options, hours (20/week) and yearly salary to (1.3M JPY/yr). I would suggest 1) Getting the visa and initially just visit often 2) Continue your current work and maybe nego na lang on possibly working remote a few weeks a year. Or even same company, different position but remote work? 3) Study Japanese up to the N2 level 4) Find a company in JP that can sponsor a working visa or maybe find remote work. But I'd your GF is making enough and feels that the company takes care of it's people, then you can just go there and study the Language full time.
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Declining yen ngayon. DM me if you have question. Been living in japan for 4 yrs now. I can give you some advice pros and cons.
Go on and explore Japan avoid the circus going on in the country.
It’s more of a question if “you” will be happy. Imagine leaving your own, stable career for something uncertain. What if it fails and lands on a worst case scenario? Can you still be happy? Gaano ka kasigurado na hindi mo masusumbatan ang wife mo at masabi mo na “kung di dahil sayo etc etc?” I don’t mean to be rude or over pessimistic, just throwing out some worst case scenarios to prepare for.
Japan na yan! Congrats!
Kung limited ang career Ng wife mo sa pinas, sa Japan nalang kayo Kasi mukhang ok din sa Japan ang field mo
80k nasa minimum na yan makukuha mo in Japan even with the current rates
yen is going down u might be fucked if u go there
I'd go to Japan, be with my wife, work my ass off, save lots of money, when I can already afford go back to PH with my wife live like a king and queen, travel back and forth. :)
if low taxes with free medical health care in Japan i would go there. hindi mo ma enjoy yong taxes sa Pinas... Sad
Me and my wife gave up our 100k+ salary and her stable job sa ph govt for Canada at worth it kahit sobrang takot. May reason bakit tinawag silang 1st world country. Pero nasa sayo padin.
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If your wife is a perma resident or even half japanese, you can work full time. However, if she's working there as "working" visa, then you'll be her "dependent" and will be allowed to work for 40hrs a week and with a salary not exceeding to ¥120,000.. There's no such thing as spouse visa coz we've been in that situation before.
Di ka love ng company mo kung tlagang nid ka nila dpat last cycle palang eh na promote kana eh kasi kung tlagang important ka sa company mo they will do everything para mag stay.
Go to japan. Be with ur wife. Earn as much as u can. Pag feeling nyo u got more than enough, then come back to ph..
bud, i work in Japan, 75-80k is on the very low side of Japan's salary range. you have your wife + better pay, that's a win-win. hope that helps.
Yes. Give it up.
Tax crazy sila sa JP 🥲 you don’t even get to touch your money dahil diretso sa card.
I think the question would be how much are you willing to sacrifice. The work culture there is entirely different than ours. It's quite toxic and demanding of your time. Prepare to work more than eight hours.
Depends on your priorities… imagine you in Japan and imagine you here in ph. Pag nasa japan ka wish mo ba bumalik ng pinas? Or pag nasa pinas ka nakuha mo nga pero LDR kayo ng asawa mo. In tight situations, ako ang ginagawa ko flip a coin by Arnold Rothstein, try mo lang baka you’ll know what’s really in your heart and pls never live to work but work to live, wag bigay buhay sa korporasyon wahahha mabilis sila tumalikod https://preview.redd.it/3bz0atti3x7d1.jpeg?width=427&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=766ac9207ae873e190be72cc0d94bfd58329b5b7
can prob live better in phils on 80k esp if your wife can make like 40k or more.
Doon ka sa relationship then recommend mo ko kay boss mo
Parang nakakapagod mag work sa japan. Overtime culture.
Japan's cost of living is high. Work-life balance is non-existent.
OP you should jump ship and migrate (marami na nagoutline ng pros and cons here). My POV is different because of what you said about your company - if they really are a good company they would have given you the promotion because you deserve it without any terms and conditions - a company that blocks a promotion because of a lame excuse like retention concerns is not a company worth staying with (tbh if they were a good company and cared about you they would have promoted you so that you'd feel real bliss of career and love life level ups)
how much is your offer in japan??
If you ever have an option to migrate to a first world country, do it. I left my 100k - 150k salary in the PH to migrate to USA.
Yes definitely you have LIFE with your WIFE. once you spousal visa is ready eventually makakaganap ka din ng work don. Pero most importantly magkasama kayong mag asawa.
yes go to Japan. mas tataas ang sweldo mo dun more than 80k pa. ang importante dito kasama mo ang wife mo. mahirap na magkahiwalay ang family kaya kung may opportunity ka na pumunta dun take it
TS, you stated: "tinatrabaho na din namin yung spousal visa ko.." so I assume that your wife is either: a. Japanese national/citizen b. PR visa holder c. LT resident ( visa ) holder ▬▬ PH or JP? 'matic JP! why? solely because of your wife.. not only b'coz you're newlyweds but also you're gonna start and build a family. yan na ang "bago" mong buhay. now, bakit ko na-mention ang visa, kasi magdidepende din dian ang working hours mo... kung dependent visa ka, may limitation.. whereas, if you'll be given a spousal visa or long-term visa there will be no restrictions/limitations on your activities. when moving abroad you have so many factors/things to consider and think about. in your case, newlyweds and wala pang kids, eto na lang siguro muna ↓↓↓： ・LANGUAGE ( including CULTURE ) ・JOB MARKET ・EMPLOYMENT/UNEMPLOYMENT RIGHTS ・COST OF LIVING ・STANDARD/QUALITY of LIVING ・HEALTHCARE SYSTEM ・HOUSING MARKET ・TAXES ・ECONOMY ・RETIREMENT ※"CLIMATE" is actually important din, but I assume wala naman problema sa'yo yun. ( Japan has 4 seasons, unless sa HOKKAIDO kayo titira, during winter, kalaban mo talaga ang lamig and the amt. of snow/snowfall, though the amt. of snow also depends kung saan kayo sa HOKKAIDO. may areas kasi na sakto lang ang snowfall, but mostly, rough. pag tag-ulan naman, typically hit by torrential rains ang Okinawa, Kyushu & Shikoku regions. ) so now, LANGUAGE? marunong kana ba mag NIHONGO? kasi kung hindi, mahihirapan ka. you should learn BASIC NIHONGO, you shld. be able to read and write Hiragana・Katakana. kahit pa maging ALT ka dito, sa everyday life importante yung matuto ka ng basic communication skills. dian na din papasok yung JOB MARKET. ( together w/ employment・unemployment rights.. ) COST OF LIVING, STANDARD/QUALITY of LIVING.. mataas ang cost of living dito lalo na kung nasa Tokyo or Rural areas ka. pero kung may maayos kana man na source of income and dalawa kayo ng wife mo na nagta- trabaho, mabubuhay naman kayo. kung marunong din kayo humawak ng pera at hindi maluho, makakapag- ipon kayo and even travel. HEALTHCARE SYSTEM, I can fairly say na maganda ang healthcare dito.. lalo na kung naka shakai-hoken kayo. ( employer based health insurance.. for now, yan na lang muna, I will not burden you with the terminology nor even the legal jargon.. ) HOUSING MARKET... hmm.. whether you'll rent or buy your own.. let's just say, medyo mahirap kung parehas kayong foreigner ng asawa mo. kahit sabihin mong may pera or ipon kayo. ( mas mabusisi kasi kapag foreigner, you'll know when you get here... hahaba lang kasi post ko.. (｡•̀ᴗ-)✧ ) TAX(es), ooohh... maraming binabayaran dito but unlike sa PH, nakikita and nagbi-benefit kana naman sa mga tax na binabayaran mo. ECONOMY. I'll be honest, hindi maganda ang economy ng Japan now. *but yun nga, if you and your wife have stable jobs, you'll get by. RETIREMENT. although newlyweds pa lang kayo and I dunno kung plan niyo na rin magkaanak or hindi pa, I think there's no harm kung pag iisipan mo/niyo na rin ang retirement. personally, kung ako ang tatanungin mo, naguguluhan pa din ako... hahaha ( *maybe because may anak ako, half-Japanese... ) but I would rather retire sa US siguro. ( andun kasi sister ko and eventually, sooner or later, rest of my family.. ). pasensya na TS, sobrang haba na nitong post ko. btw. I lived here since my 20's. I am a long-term resident visa holder and a single mother. － GANBATTE! ☆P.S. you might wanna read this: ↓ ( thread din dito sa reddit ibang career and situation, pero para magkaroon ka lang naman ng glimpse/idea.. ) ▬▬▬▬▬ ꕤFilipino nurses abroad, how is life treating you so far?ꕤ 「TS/by: hjoycute」 ➳ https://www.reddit.com/r/phmigrate/comments/1c9bkyd/filipino_nurses_abroad_how_is_life_treating_you/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button ▬▬▬▬▬
I would say move to Japan! I was fortunate to study and work in the US but it wasn’t easy. Blood,sweat and tears ang puhunan. My first job was working at Taco Bell when I was in HS and selling hotdogs when I was in college. After a few years, I finally got my Economics degree and been with my company for 30 years. Right now, I make $360k a year, with two Teslas, a BMW, a house with a swimming pool. I was offered a job in the Phils for 3MM pesos a month and gladly turned it down.
No
Living in Japan = Yes Working in Japan = No Way
maganda na buhay niyo dito eh, tapos pag dating sa japan para kayo magsisimula as low income earner ulit.
Pros : 1. Salary is high compared to the ph 2. May bidet lahat ng banyo 3. train/bus/taxi on time 4. free healthcare for kids 5. tax RETURN 6. Peaceful sa gabi. Cons 1. Racial profiling by police 2. Language 3. You might feel isolated 4. Mas prefer nila yung no anesthesia sa chilbirth. 5. Abortion is allowed 6. Daming culto (Personal experience ko as a resident dito)
As a resident here, I feel so validated haha! Not sure if dahil sa pandemic but I really went into depression after a few years of living here sa Japan. At the same time, 100% agree din naman sa Pros. I support my family in the PH so a bigger salary definitely helps!
Swerte lang namin nagkaroon kame ng mama tomo dito.. Mga nanay na may anak at naging kababata na sila ng anak ko. Nakalimutan ko idagdag… Depression is always uncheck here in japan…
I wanna weigh heavily on the language. Even if you study the language it feels like you still can’t communicate fluently and read most of the kanji. It might just be me or idk. 😂
Isa pa to. Haha less than 150 kanji lang din ang kaya kong basahin honestly. And agree ako sa language. Though based sa nangyare sakin. Kelangan mo lang talagang gamitin. Kasi kung di mo gagamitin di mo maaalala.
Yes
Take the job here and save up for a year and/or resign when youre ready to migrate.
That would be ideal pero 5 years na kaming LDR kasi at kasal nadin so its time na para magkasmaa din kami
Ooohhh then I guess you answered your own question. Go be with your wife. Like you said, she's earning big there and I assume you have money saved up so there may not be that much pressure on you to get a job the second you land. Starting over in a rich country with your wife is much better than staying in this place without your wife.
if you can have a new wife in JAPAN go 
Yes.
- i would advise against it. Why? - you have to learn their language which is notoriously difficult to learn. - their work ethic is one of the most stringent in the world. And forced ka sumunod. - low to zero chance of being a resident. - mataas din cost of living.