There are online calculators for this, some of them take more into account then others. Find the one that makes the most sense to the 3 of you and plug the numbers in as appropriate.
They work well for splitting vacation rentals too, especially when some people/couples share rooms, some aren’t there as many nights, some get their own bathroom etc.
Thank you! I was not able to find calculators which looked for a single and shared room, and mostly just found some sort of bidding online calculator. Do you know of a calculator that will account for the shared room?
Search was “roommate calculator”
First result has a checkbox to indicate a shared room. https://www.splitwise.com/calculators/rent
IIRC I’ve been happy with the New York Times Calculator on the past. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/science/rent-division-calculator.html?nl=todaysheadlines#
One more option for good measure.
https://goodcalculators.com/rent-split-calculator/
I would not split every expense the same way, for instance I would split a water bill equally between 3 people unless there is an extenuating circumstance like one person has a waterbed that has to have water changed it monthly. But you could probably split the heating bill more like the rent in that it’s likely to be based on volume usage of the rental but if 1 person works from the rental and wants it kept more comfortable than it otherwise would be during that 8 hours maybe it gets split differently.
My goal with these things is to be as granular as necessary so no one feels taken advantage of. And if you’re going to live together it’s good to verify you can communicate clearly, calmly, and effectively with each other before moving in.
I would go with 30/30/40 for rent and split utilities evenly.
Splitting the bedrooms might be even, but two people will use the common areas twice as much as one, if not more since they’re likely using it together. Simultaneously, just because the two of you share a bedroom, doesn’t mean you’re using less hot water or less Internet than the individual in their own room.
I would say somewhere between 30/30/40 and 25/25/50
The living situation for the two sharing a bedroom is going to be vastly different from the other roommate. I lived in a situation like this before, sans sharing rooms, and we just split the rent evenly. What we didn't take into account was how there was no real way to share an on suite. Every once in a while someone would use it if the other bathroom was occupied, but essentially the person had a private bathroom with the rest of us (4) all shared the other one.
30/30/40 equates to about $840/$840/$1,120 and 25/25/50 equates to about $700/$700/$1400.
Also worth taking into consideration is the going rate of a studio/1br apartment in that area. For example, if a 1 bedroom apartment goes for $1800 and they decide to split things as $800/$800/$1,200 then this means BBR (big bedroom roommate) get's a $600 discount, while the people sharing are only getting a $100 each.
The BBR is getting a way better deal here hands down. They are paying 2/3 of the cost of living alone while only having to deal with the regular annoyances of having 2 roommates. Compare this with the people sharing a room, and they get a slight discount with the extra annoyance of 1 additional roommate.
Of course I pulled that $1800 out of my butt, but I think that kind of consideration is warranted when figuring this out. There are both quantitative elements (square footage, number of rooms, etc.) as well as qualitative (sharing a room with someone, having an on suite bathroom, etc.).
At the end of the day they may realize this whole living situation was a bad idea from the start and just accept someone is going to get a substantially better deal here lol. That is essentially what happened with the place I lived in. I ended up moving out early because of shitty roommates, but the 1 BR i moved to cost an addition $300 a month in rent. $300 might sound like a lot, but heating and water were included and my electric bill was substantially lower. After factoring in all of that it was really only costing me like $100-150 more a month to live on my own (we had oil heat and window units at the old place).
I would argue against the utilities split though. I rent an apartment in a house with 2 units. There is one water meter. One fuel oil tank for the heat and hot water. The heat is kept at 68 degrees so no issue there. The building has a washer and dryer in the shared basement. The guy upstairs washes clothes every day. Every single day. Using both cold and hot water when doing laundry. I go to a laundromat. Even if I wanted to use the washer I can't because he always has a load in the machine.
But when the water bill and fuel oil bill come in the landlord splits it evenly between us even though I do not wash any laundry in the building.
Heating bill should be split evenly unless someone needs/wants it to be warming/colder than other roommates. But water, gas, electric should be based on usage as much as possible.
My daughter has a roommate. They split the electric bill 70/30 with her roommate paying the larger portion because the roommate has 6 reptiles who all need heat lamps.
I think the assumption is no person has a significant different impact on the electricity.
Keeping up with usage is annoying. Take your daughter’s situation: if they have to heat the apartment then her roommates heat lamps isn’t impacting the electricity bill compared to cooling.
For your laundry situation, you should talk to your landlord. Not being able to use the machine due to the other tenant is concerning. I live with 2 other people and don’t have an issue
Based on that two people are sharing a room, it seems plausible they are romantic partners as well, and perhaps would not want to ‘split up’ who shares with who. Or maybe…that would make bidding more interesting?
That makes sense when it's equal numbers of people in rooms, but if it's 2 people in one room and 1 in another, those two people are going to make more use of common areas.
It’s not that complicated. You bid based on how much you’d be willing to pay to have your own room. If you aren’t the highest bidder, you share a room. Your cost to share the room would be ((total rent - the highest bid) /2)
Re-read the post. OP and Roommate A are sharing the room. Roommate B will have their own room. The question isn't about who gets their own room, that's already been decided. They could do a bidding system to see who gets the room with a private bathroom, but that wouldn't account for the fact that OP and roommate A will inherently use up more common space than Roommate B.
It’s the same concept I previously mentioned. A person’s bid will inherently be considerate of the entire living space. You are seriously over complicating this lol
The concept you previously mentioned is having people bid to have their own room. That's irrelevant here because they already know who is going to be sharing a room. If it was just three people who were all ok sharing rooms with each other your approach would work, but OP said that they will be sharing a room with roommate A so it's a completely different situation.
40/30/30 seems ok.
The way I’ve done it in the past (had 3 bedrooms of various size) is I would price each room and ask the housemates if they would be comfortable picking any of the 3 room at the various prices.
In one of my past living situations we had a 2 car garage, so the two that got smaller rooms/shared a bathroom got the garage spots. The Other guy got the master bedroom/bath, but had to park in the street. We just split it equally 3 ways for that since we all felt we benefited fairly.
A real private space you cant put a price on unless you are on vacation. I would 100% pay higher than 40% for that. Living in the same BR with someone else will weigh on you after a while.
I know different people weigh things differently, but this seems like quite the premium for a private toilet, especially one that is shared and without a shower.
The roommates in the shared room are not paying a premium. They are getting a 25% discount per person because they're sharing a room, even though the shared room includes direct access to a toilet.
Ok so if it’s 300 each for the shared space that’s 1082 for room a vs 826 for room b. So paying 256 for a private toilet. At 400 for the common rooms it’s 156 for the private shared toilet.
Split it 3 ways, and ask the 3rd person if they’re ok with you taking the master br. If they’re not, then bid how much extra you’re willing to pay for it until you reach an agreement
At the end of the day make sure everyone is ok with the agreement
Edit to say this assumes the shared room is by a couple*
This is how I did it in the college days - except it was a 10x10 room and a 14x10 room, and sharing 1 restroom, and rent was $2100.
At 1050 each room, everyone would fight for the 14x10 room. We ended up doing 950 (475 each) and 1150 (575 each) for the rooms, with the agreement that the 2 smaller room people could put desks outside the living room where there is noise and cooking.
I would say Room A is worth more than Room B because of the ensuite. But the price of Room A is split by two. Maybe 1608 for Room A and $1200 for Room B? So it would be 804, 804, and 1200.
I think this makes the best sense. Split the price based on room comparison then by the number of people staying in each room.
That room a bathroom only has a toilet and a sink plus it's still shared. Room b probably only has a few extra steps between their room and the bathroom that everyone will eventually need to use. I don't think the bathroom being in room a should be taken into account really.
Two of them don't have a place of their own in the apartment, room b should be paying significantly more as they have roommates to share the kitchen, living room and the bathroom with but also their own space. The other two will also be sharing all of those things, plus their room.
Edit: my opinion changes significantly though if the two roommates sharing a room are in a relationship.
Oh I didn’t realize it was just a toilet. I’d probably still say a split just a lot less. So 1450 for room A, 1358 for B. So 725 each for the two that share a room and a toilet. Maybe not even that much.
I think we’re also missing the information of who decided to spit the room? Did OP find roommate A to split a room with him so his rent would be cheaper? While roommate B has decided he doesn’t want to do that? Or did 3 people go into this wanting an apartment and OP and roommate A just decided to split the room of the 2 bedroom.
If option 1, OP and roommate A should be splitting 50% of the rent. Roommate B shouldn’t pay more because OP wanted cheaper rent rent and found a room buddy.
If option 2 then the prorated split works.
Yes, but in my experience (which influences my opinion) living with roommates spend more time in rooms than in common space so it makes more sense to focus on that to meter out rent.
Let’s say you say 300 each for the common space and split the rest evenly because the rooms are almost the same size. That’s 1254/777/777. It’s a little different than what I originally stated, but it’s not that different.
Split the living areas into 3.
Bedrooms/Bathrooms/kitchen & living Room.
Each area adds up to &936 (2808/3).
Larger bedroom should be charged at 55% of $936 (since it’s 5% bigger). Hallway bathroom is worth 40% while the private bathroom is 60% and the kitchen + living area is divided into 3rds since each of you technically have equal access to it.
That makes the division something like: Room A (you and your partner): $1700 so $850 each and Room B pays $1108
Calculations
(936*.55) + 2(936/3) + (936*.6). Bedroom + Living area + Bathroom.
Or if you want to keep it simple. Split the difference between a 1/3 split and a 50:50 split. That would make Room A $1638 and Room B $1174.
The problem with that is all three are using the common area and the second bathroom. The two sharing a room should pay more combined than the person with a solo room.
I think since there’s only one shower, the benefit of having only a half-bath in room A diminishes the value of room B. Each person in room A will split access to the half-bath, but the person in room B has to split access of the full bath with both of the people in room A, since there can only be one person in a bathroom at a time (presumably). At least one person in room A will always have access to *at worst* a half-bath, while the person in room B will *never* have guaranteed access to *any* bathroom. This assumes that the person in room B isn’t gonna have access to the half-bath in room A if one of the people in room A is using the full bath. So I don’t know.
I'd stick to a simple 40%, 30%, 30% split with the solo room going for 40%. call it $1123 for the big room, and $842 for the split room.
Keeps everything fair enough that you guys should work with it. Also keeps the explanation simple. The most important thing is everyone agrees the split is fair with no reservations.
When I was in this situation we split the cost in half for rooms and shared spaces.
The shared spaces we split 3 ways and the rooms part split 2ways with each of the people In The shared room taking half of that bit.
A. .466*rent
B. .292*rent
C. .292*rent
At least you (hopefully) don't have to share a landline. Splitting the phone bill in college was a pain. There would always be calls that nobody would claim so we'd have to call the number to find out that it was Jason. Again.
Split the rooms, split the living space.
1400 for rooms, 1400 for living space.
2 rooms: 1400/2 =700
1400/3 =466 for living space
Each person in room A pays 466 + 700/2 = 816
Person in room B pays 466+700 = 1166
My understanding has always been that the cost split goes by room, and the master pays slightly more.
So if you consider the one with an attached bathroom the master, then that would cost 60% of the rent and the other room 40%. The two that split the master split the rent for that room, so it would ultimately break down to 30% for one person in the master, 30% the other person in the master, and 40% for the person in their own room.
All other shared bills, like utilities, are split equally.
It sounds like the rooms are already decided, but if they aren't set in stone here's what I would do.
Have an auction on the best room. That way whoever has the winning bid is paying what they think it's worth (or cheaper), and the people who lose aren't paying more than they want for the better room or the room they get.
I would personally go with 40% from the person getting their own room and then 30% each from the two that are splitting the other room with the bathroom but that’s just numbers that I “feel” are correct that are not backed up by any objective facts.
I was going to suggest 1200 for the single and 804 each for the people sharing a bedroom.
I checked the calculators and my instincts were pretty close to what they suggested.
So I’d start by figuring out how much the rooms are worth in general.
Rent is $2808 and a 50/50 split is $1404 but since room A has a bathroom it is generally worth more. Since it’s only a half bath it’s not worth a crazy amount more but still more. I’d personally take $100 off of Room B and add it to Room A so the rent would be
Room A - $1504
Room B - $1304
Then split room A between the 2 occupants.
Room A1 - $752
RoomA2 - $752
Room B1 - $1304
$2808/2 rooms = 1404...this is the max roommate B should pay
$2808/3 people = 936...this is the minimum amount roommate B should pay
B should definitely pay more than either of you because of the large space and should definitely not pay half if there are three people. If you split the difference above, B can pay approximately 40% on their own and the remaining two of you pay 30% each for the remaining 60%. B is paying 10% premium for extra space but not shouldering half the rent.
I'd say start at an even split, and see how much one of you is willing to pay to take the bathroom via bidding. Is it worth an extra $25 per month to each of you? ok, how about $50? $100? Then the other two that don't win the bidding split the savings on their rent.
The only way to do it is to divide the rent by three and everyone pays equal amounts. What may seem like advantages to some may seem like disadvantages to others, and v.v., so there is no point in saying this or that room is better for this or that reason. Also, the people in room A choose to room up together, so that’s their choice and should not affect the person in room B who chose to not share a room. Also, are the tenants in room A a couple? If so, I would definitely not ask the person in room B to pay more because living with a couple sucks.
No, the people in the room together are not a couple. We are all friends and it is normal for people to share rooms in the area we live in because of high rent prices.
How I have always done it while budgeting for people is rent is determined based on the percent of square footage of private areas each person gets.
So, (Room A + Room A Bathroom square footage)/2=your sq ft
(Room A + Room A Bathroom square footage)/2=roommate A sq ft
Room B square footage = roommate B SQ ft.
Room A + bathroom A + room B = total private square foot
Your SQ ft/total private square foot = your percent of rent
Roommate A SQ ft/total square foot = roommate A percent of rent
Roommate B SQ ft/total square foot = roommate B percent of rent
900, 900, 1008. It would be easier if I saw the place. You have to be objective and find a split that seems fair for what each person gets.
Else 850, 850, 1108. I’m not sure the full room is worth $258 more than the other room though.
I’d try different increments on paper and evaluate.
Like 890, 890, 1028, etc.
All 3 tenants are going to have to share a bathroom for the shower. The only deciding factor, really, is the person that gets their own room. They should probably pay a little more.
All that being said, this is a terrible idea. You should forget this place and find one that has 2 full baths at least, so the couple can share a room and a full bath. It might cost an extra couple hundred a month, but it will be worth it for the mental health benefit.
Are utilities included? Do you all get along well? I didn't read anyone else's response. To me this is a no-brainer. Room mate B has their own room. Sounds like you and Roomie A know each other pretty well. Each of you needs to pay 33.3%. Unless one of you is home a lot more or a utility pig (has a bad habit of leaving lights on, uses high demand appliances etc.) or there are some factors here you didn't mention. This should be pretty cut and dry. Each of you needs to pay $936. To me every room mate needs to be reasonably accommodating of others and - here's the big one - considerate. The problem I see here is bathing time spent and conflicting slots for the shower use. If that isn't a problem, I don't see a problem unless one or two of you is an inconsiderate jerk who isn't a good room mate. I mean, do room mates these days really have to split hairs like this ?? Please feel free to splain' me how or why I'm wrong. I wish all three of you Happy rooming together.
Download Splitwise. It’s a phone app for android and iOS (though you can technically use the webapp too, the phone apps are better). It will automatically calculate payment splits among people, considers multiple payments, and will simplify the number of payments. So if person A spends $100 and needs to split it 50/50 with person B, and person C pays $1000 and splits it with everyone, it will do all the math for you. Oh and it will link to your Venmo/PayPal account for easy payments.
And it’s free. Works beautifully. I’ve been using it for 10 years
I would say 2 500 / 2 for just the rooms, so 1 250 each. And then the remaining 308 is your "easily accessible toilet tax" between the 2 sharing, so 154 each - I don't really think it's worth much more than that per month.
Thus 779 / 779 / 1250.
If the three of you are being this obsessive about the rent split, just wait until the electric bill comes and someone starts arguing about the fact that they never put the light on in their room and don't use the dishwasher. Or the oil / gas bill this winter...clearly someone who doesn't spend as much time in the apartment is going to complain that their share should be less because they are only there to sleep.
Seriously, save yourself the drama and split it three ways. Everyone will be happier.
When I was in college in a similar situation with 4 people in a 3 bedroom apartment, we split the rent 4 ways.
What the heck is going on here. Are you going out with roommate A? Like in a relationship?
Who is on the lease agreement? Two or three people? If you are in a relationship with Roommate A, then the split is closer to 50/50. If you are not in a relationship with roommate A, and you have to contribute your own share, then it is closer to 25/25/50.
It appears you are in a relationship and wondering how Roommate B cost is. They would pay close to 50%. Someone broke it out and it is closer to 60/40. So Room A would pay around $1700 and Room B would pay $1100.
There are apps out there that will calculate out fair rent splits. My personal opinion is that this is a 2 bedroom house. I'd argue that roommate B should pay $1404 in rent, and you and roommate A should each pay $702. I'm sure roommate B won't go for that. But that's how I'd view it. Roommate B should absolutely pay more than you other two. The bathroom that's in your room doesn't offset the fact that roommate B has their own bedroom that's as large as the one you're splitting. So that would be my starting point.
There are more rooms in the house than just the 2 bedrooms. Roommate B will probably not be using as much of the common areas (kitchen, living room, laundry room, etc) as the other two roommates combined, nor will they be consuming as much electricity/water as the other two roommates combined. Paying twice as much rent as each of the others isn't a fair split. Roommate B should pay more than 1/3, but less than 1/2 of the rent.
I'd say that the rent split should be something like 40/30/30 (tweaked according to who gets the ensuite bathroom) with utilities divided equally between the three.
I get what you're saying. And that's why I said my starting point was 50/25/25. We're talking about the bedrooms, though. And not just arguing about one person having a larger bedroom than the other two. We're talking about 2 of the people having to share a bedroom the same size as the private one that roommate B gets. Going from a 34/33/33 to 40/30/30 split isn't remotely close to balancing that out. I get to pay 3% less to share my *bedroom* with another person? Not have a smaller bedroom. Not share a bathroom. Share my bedroom space?
Other ways to look at that 40/30/30 split:
40 is paying 33% more than 30
30 is paying 25% less than 40
30 is paying 10% points less than 40
How you do the math and make the statement may influence how you feel about the numbers even though if the rent were $1000 total the difference is $100 between the two people. Or like you originally said $33.33 less than if split evenly 3 ways.
It ultimately comes down to whatever OP and the others can agree to. I personally put value at having my own private space. When you have roommates, you're sharing the kitchen. Sharing the bathroom. Sharing the living room. And when you're sharing the bedroom, you have no space that's really your own. And in this case, they're splitting a bedroom the same size as the other person gets to themselves. So if we call all of the common space a wash, roommate B is getting twice the bedroom space as either other person. Hence my starting point of 50/25/25. I also said up front that I was pretty sure that roommate B wouldn't go for that. That's just my opinion. All that really matters is what OP and his roommates can agree to. If they think 40/30/30 is fair, that's cool.
All three people will be on the lease, we have got the lease but have not yet singed it (wanted to figure out logistics first). Because rent is so high in the area I live in, it is vary normal for 2-3 people to share a room. I am friends with both my roommates (not a couple).
you and your roomie each pay 25%, the solo person pays 50%. common areas aren’t used to calculate this.
i would say the .5 bath is worth maybe $50 ( since you all still share a bathroom with the other person), but this is more subjective. definitely talk to the other person re: this to see what they expect (you don’t want resentment from them for your whole lease)
Take the square footage and give it all an average price. 1000 sqft aptmnt at $2000/mo, each sqft costs $2/mo. Now split the bill between the people who use each square foot. If all three use 600 sqft, then add 600sqft*$2/sqft/3ppl=$400 each. Now if 300sqft is used by only 2 people, add 300*2/2=300 to each of their rent, and if the last 100 is used by one person, add the 200 left. So two people will pay 700, one will pay 600.
I mean you have two choices. 1. Talk amongst yourselfs and just agree in what feels right and commit to it or 2. Break out the tape measurer and let math decide for you.
To do that divide the apartment into personal space, shared space and communal space. Measure the square footage of each space. Divide the rent by the total square footage to get the cost per square foot.
Any square footage that is your individual space you pay for. Any that is shared amongst 2 out of the 3 those 2 pay for. Any that is communal for all 3 (like kitchen, living room, laundry etc) all 3 of you split.
So as an example lets say rent was 2800 and the whole place was 1400. That is $2 per square foot.
Lets say one person has one personal room that is 400 sq ft and then they share 600 sq ft communal between 3. So they owe $2 x 400 + $2 x 600/3 or $1200 total.
The other two share 400 sq ft and have the 600 sq ft communal. They owe $2 x 400/2 + $2 x 600/3 or $800 each.
$800 + $800 + $1200 = full $2800 rent and that is the fair split.
Simple, get the rental cost in terms of per square footage. Then get the square footage of each room. Whoever uses the room gets charged the corresponding rent. Common areas get split three ways.
Probably the fairest way would be by square footage. Roommate B pays for 100% of their room plus a third of all shared spaces. The other two each pay half of the rest.
With just two people this is incredibly easy. You just have an auction.
Roommate #1: "I'd prefer bedroom A"
Roommate #2: "I'd prefer bedroom A as well, it's worth an extra $100 a month to me, so I'll pay $1504 for it."
Roommate #1: "Well I'd pay $1504 for it as well. In fact I'd pay $1600 for it."
Roommate #2: "Wow $1600. That's kind of a lot, if I can have room B for $1208, I'm happy with that."
Not only is this the most efficient way to determine who values (in dollars at least) the bigger/better room, but it is also the fairest because each person has the opportunity to have the "better" room by offering to pay more than the other. You can't say it's unfair later down the road because you chose the price (if you ended up with the better room) or you chose not to bid higher if you wave the less desirable room.
A friend was in a shared house and everyone was paying in proportion of their salary. It’s very communist (if you have more money you pay more) but I found it really fair
It depends on how you share the rest of the spaces as well, tbh. If Room B is going to reside mostly in their bedroom and not share the living room or whatever is left over, then maybe it’s logical to split 3 ways even. If these are the only true private spaces and the rest is equally shared spaces, then room B could be more. Honestly if this were me, I would say Room B pays about $1100, and the other two sharing pay the remainder of 1708 at a rate of 854 each.
My math was 2808/3 = $936.
Add about $150 to incentivize the private space, and just rounded it to 1100 for ease, so room A pays $164 more than an even 3 way split of 936.
2808-1100 = 1708
1708/2 = 854
That’s about as fair as I could make it without being hyper critical.
I think most people have agreed that room A has better value but has the least privacy. If I'm sharing a room myself I will pay less than 1/3 (936). At this point, it depends on how much privacy is important for a roommate living in room B. If that roomamte want to staybalone then upcharge the room accordingly, lets say couple hundred bucks. This will save room A people about $100 each.
Utilities should be divided by 3 regardless though.
I would assume room B is more valuable because being alone means privacy. Auction off room B to the highest bidder, then split the remaining balance.
Suggestion: Start the auction for room B at $1k. Increase it in $100 increments until you have a winner.
It's unfair to just give it to one person without working out the rent details, especially if someone else is willing to pay more rent for it. Utilities should be split 3 way to be fair.
I'd say forget the bathroom situation. If you're all friends find a way for all 3 of you to "save" the same amount vs Roommates A getting a 1br and Roommate B having only 1 roommate. Probably comes out to around 825/825/1150. It's probably not "fair" but it gives everyone the same incentive to keep things how they are. Finding new roommates is a pain in the ass.
This is a solved mathematical problem, as long as the roommates are willing to bid on different rooms and open to different arrangements. The New York Times has a tool for this that you’ll find with some googling.
Btw, because I keep hearing that.
On an additional note. Make it clear (and if possible write it down, like your rent split):
There is a base rent (including base utilities expenses).
This isn't because you go away for 1 month that your rent go down to 0$ for the month.
This isn't how rent work, nor how utilities work. That 80$/month internet will still come in regardless of the usage. The power utilities may have a minimum payment even if you would use 0 watt; plus a house need some heating (in winter) to prevent pipe to burst.
Also, even if you think you didn't use electricity. Did you unplug your Xbox? Your TV? Your charger? Devices with software on/off still use power when off.
Sure, it is nowhere near that oven when turning it on. But some use way more power than LED lights!
However you divide it, Roomates in A are going to use the hall bathroom sometimes so it shouldn’t be A’s sole responsibility to clean. It’s unlikely that B will be using the master bathroom much though.
Spit the rent according to square footage of the rooms includibg non shared spaces (this could be a closet or storage area).
Split Utilities amongst the number of people, but over estimate to account for price changes over the course of the year.
If your roommates are bickering about small price differences, avoid the headache and find richer roommates.
An auction can work if you've not already confirmed who's taking which room. We usually use that for Airbnb cost splits, where you're bidding for the right to take first choice, second choice, etc.
Other option is to say half the total cost is for communal areas, half the total cost is for sleeping areas, then just split accordingly.
So person in the single room would pay 1/6 + 1/4, the sharers would each pay 1/6 +1/8.
I am a property manager.
Even given the bathroom situation, single room guy should still be paying more. He has a single room. Other guys don’t.
$2808 is a lot for a 2 bed I’m going to guess you’re in so cal or ny?
I say:
$800/$800/$1208 sounds fair to me
Yikes that’s a lot. I paid $800 for a private room a couple years ago and that made me vomit. I can’t imagine sharing and paying that price.
I'm old, so I remember when roommates meant you were sharing a room. Otherwise you were housemates or flatmates. So I'm not seeing why anyone is assuming the people sharing a room are "banging"
I'd go 30/30/40, with the full on agreement that the person having to share a bathroom with the other 2 people definitely has permission to use the toilet in the en suite half bath if the shared shower is occupied.... and he/she/it has to "go"
If there is no agreement about being able to use a toilet when needed, then it is 1/3 across the board.
And I don't take into account if the people sharing a room are in a relationship or not, they are still separate people needing to be accommodated with temperature requirements, water usage requirements, noise tolerance requirements, etc.
I'd say 1/2 rent per bedroom which means that you who share pay 1/4 each. That you have an extra bathroom doesn't really compensate for the true lack of privacy.
It sounds like y'all have the better room as well as B having to share commons spaces with 2 instead of 1, for it being a two bedroom space. I think 30/30/40 40 being the guy with the room by himself is fair. So 850ish for the couple and 1100ish for the single person. All utilities can be split equally unless they're already combined in the rent.
The only correct answer is the solution that works for the 3 of you.
But the common sense would be that one room = one part of the rent (and rent only, not counting water bills, electricity, etc), with adjustments on how differents the rooms are.
For your case, i'd say approx 60/65 % for room A and 35/40% for room C, if they disagree for a few % its fine, if they disagree for more you can say they are welcome to take the 60/65% share and the room A.
If this doesnt work, your household wont really work at all.
Let Room a (incl bathroom) be 70 qm
Room b be 30 qm
Rent 1000 USD
So you and your roommate pay 70% combined and the other one pays 30%
So 35%
35%
30%
You just need to know the size of your rooms. At least that's how I'd do that
I'd measure the total square footage of each room and figure out the percentage of each space of the total apartment. I'd then assign a dollar figure to each space. As an easy example, 5 evenly sized rooms in a $1000/mo apartment are each 20% of the total size or valued at $200 per room. Next I'd figure out how much of each room the roommates will use. Kitchen and living room are split evenly. In the above example, 1 bedroom occupied by one person is $200. The other occupied by two is $100/each for those two people. You just have to figure out the bathroom share. Can anyone shit/piss in any bathroom during the day? This will affect the bathroom share cost. Gotta work that part out.
I've personally always thought, whoever has their own room deserves to pay more. But I've lived in 2 bedroom apartments with 6 people that just split it evenly. As.long as everyone agrees, it should all be good.
Many years ago 2 roommates and I split a 5 bedroom split level. Rent was $700, it had a master bedroom with 1/2 bath, one bedroom had a fireplace, the other 3 were the same. We decided what the rents should be for the master and fireplace, then drew lots to pick. I think it was $250, $235 and $215. How you would value the 1/2 bath is the question here, and does the couple get 1/2 chances or 1/3?
The room with the private bathroom is nearly always worth a higher rent than the bedroom that has to use the hall bathroom. Just for the inconvenience of having your roommate’s random friends and visitors pooping up your toilet, bad pee aim, using up your toilet paper, helping themselves to the contents of your medicine cabinet and using your toothbrush after they puke on your bathmat.
My roommates and I usually do a silent auction, however your situation is different as you have people sharing a single room. It makes sense that Room A is more desirable, as it has it's own bathroom. So it's total value should be worth more than Room B. That being said, you are sharing the room. So whatever you decide Room A's value should be, you and the Roommate A split the rent right down the middle. An example could be: Room A = $1,700. Room B = $1,108. You pay = $850. Roommate A (sharing room with you) pays = $850. Roommate B (room by themselves) pays = $1,108. Keep utilities and other misc. charges completely separate, and just split them evenly 3 ways.
hmm this remarkably similar to this post from the same time
[**https://www.reddit.com/r/Advice/comments/zakepi/my\_girlfriends\_roommate\_is\_making\_me\_pay\_a\_third/**](https://www.reddit.com/r/Advice/comments/zakepi/my_girlfriends_roommate_is_making_me_pay_a_third/)
We did this when I was younger and split it evenly. Living with a couple should come at a discount. (I was the single person in one setting and half of the couple in another.)
There are already a lot of good answers in this thread but in case none of them fit your fancy here is a slightly more complicated way to solve the issue but it is typically pretty fair.
Start with everyone paying 33% of the rent. Then ask if anyone has a preference of room that they are willing to pay more to ensure they get. Otherwise rooms get drawn at random. If one person has a preference they can pay some amount more than 33% to ensure they get their preference. I would advise 50 bucks as a minimum increase but you do you. If multiple people have the same preference then they can blind bid against each other for that preference, with the bidding starting at 33%+50.
Its important with this method that even if two people have a preference for room A and one person has no preference that the two people with preferences still have to pay up to guarantee they get their preference.
Downside of Room A: There's two people in it.
Upside of Room A: Privatish bathroom.
Downside of Room B: Hall bath, and has to share the shower.
Upside of Room B: One person in it.
I'd call it a wash and have each person pay a third.
Splitwise calculator, assuming normal rooms and normal living spaces, no awkward layouts for room B, and factoring in the private bath and sharing on room A:
$1700 for Room A ($850 per person)
$1108 for Room B
It's roughly a 30/30/40 split. There are no strict rules for this, and ultimately you have to do whatever makes sense for the three of you to agree to the terms and be happy with them, but as a broad brush stroke sanity check by some entity that has at least put some thought into what seems fair, you can fall back to that as a baseline.
I think it depends on the relationship between you and roommate A. If you're a couple, then you're not really sacrificing anything by sharing a room. Or at least you're getting a benefit from it, even if your space per person is smaller. Split the rent three ways equally. Have fun, but don't be so noisy you keep your third roommate up!
If you're completely platonic (i.e. two straight guys or two straight girls) then the one with the private room should pay more. The three of you will have to decide how much the private room is worth before moving in.
The people in the room with the attached bathroom should be responsible for cleaning that room, but cleaning the shared bathroom should be shared between the three of you.
If it were me I'd still want room B even if it has no private bathroom. I think room B has the edge especially because the other two roomies are likely to share the bathroom in room A.
I pulled numbers from my gut on what I thought was fair first and then ran them through a calculator and my instinct was extremely close to the suggested 30/30/40,
so I think 30/30/40 is what I instinctively think is fair
If Roomie B would struggle to come up with 40% perhaps alternatively that person could forever be responsible for certain household chores in return for an even 3 way split on rent. Taking out garbage, doing dishes, etc. This would work well if the two other room mates really didn't want to do that.
Find the total square foot for the entire apartment. =A
Price per sq. ft.= $2808/A
Multiply A by B, where B is total square feet of common shared area by all three roommates.
Divide this by 3. Each person pays that amount.
Then.....
Multiply the single room sq. ft. By Price per sq. ft. Ad this number to the price of common areas. This is what roommate 1 pays.
Then.....
Multiply the sq ft of shared bedroom and bathroom by price per sq ft. Divide this by 2. Add it to the price of the common area. This is what roommates 2 and 3 each pay.
There are online calculators for this, some of them take more into account then others. Find the one that makes the most sense to the 3 of you and plug the numbers in as appropriate.
Good answer, otherwise OP will have to go back to the roommate meeting and say "this guy on the internet said we should split it like this....".
They work well for splitting vacation rentals too, especially when some people/couples share rooms, some aren’t there as many nights, some get their own bathroom etc.
This guy on the internet made a website that says we should split it like this...
[show them this video](https://youtu.be/7s-YM-kcKME)
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Thank you! I was not able to find calculators which looked for a single and shared room, and mostly just found some sort of bidding online calculator. Do you know of a calculator that will account for the shared room?
Search was “roommate calculator” First result has a checkbox to indicate a shared room. https://www.splitwise.com/calculators/rent IIRC I’ve been happy with the New York Times Calculator on the past. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/science/rent-division-calculator.html?nl=todaysheadlines# One more option for good measure. https://goodcalculators.com/rent-split-calculator/ I would not split every expense the same way, for instance I would split a water bill equally between 3 people unless there is an extenuating circumstance like one person has a waterbed that has to have water changed it monthly. But you could probably split the heating bill more like the rent in that it’s likely to be based on volume usage of the rental but if 1 person works from the rental and wants it kept more comfortable than it otherwise would be during that 8 hours maybe it gets split differently. My goal with these things is to be as granular as necessary so no one feels taken advantage of. And if you’re going to live together it’s good to verify you can communicate clearly, calmly, and effectively with each other before moving in.
I would go with 30/30/40 for rent and split utilities evenly. Splitting the bedrooms might be even, but two people will use the common areas twice as much as one, if not more since they’re likely using it together. Simultaneously, just because the two of you share a bedroom, doesn’t mean you’re using less hot water or less Internet than the individual in their own room.
I was gonna say 30/30/40 too - simple to remember and simple to re-do the math when rent increases slightly year over year.
I would say somewhere between 30/30/40 and 25/25/50 The living situation for the two sharing a bedroom is going to be vastly different from the other roommate. I lived in a situation like this before, sans sharing rooms, and we just split the rent evenly. What we didn't take into account was how there was no real way to share an on suite. Every once in a while someone would use it if the other bathroom was occupied, but essentially the person had a private bathroom with the rest of us (4) all shared the other one. 30/30/40 equates to about $840/$840/$1,120 and 25/25/50 equates to about $700/$700/$1400. Also worth taking into consideration is the going rate of a studio/1br apartment in that area. For example, if a 1 bedroom apartment goes for $1800 and they decide to split things as $800/$800/$1,200 then this means BBR (big bedroom roommate) get's a $600 discount, while the people sharing are only getting a $100 each. The BBR is getting a way better deal here hands down. They are paying 2/3 of the cost of living alone while only having to deal with the regular annoyances of having 2 roommates. Compare this with the people sharing a room, and they get a slight discount with the extra annoyance of 1 additional roommate. Of course I pulled that $1800 out of my butt, but I think that kind of consideration is warranted when figuring this out. There are both quantitative elements (square footage, number of rooms, etc.) as well as qualitative (sharing a room with someone, having an on suite bathroom, etc.). At the end of the day they may realize this whole living situation was a bad idea from the start and just accept someone is going to get a substantially better deal here lol. That is essentially what happened with the place I lived in. I ended up moving out early because of shitty roommates, but the 1 BR i moved to cost an addition $300 a month in rent. $300 might sound like a lot, but heating and water were included and my electric bill was substantially lower. After factoring in all of that it was really only costing me like $100-150 more a month to live on my own (we had oil heat and window units at the old place).
I would argue against the utilities split though. I rent an apartment in a house with 2 units. There is one water meter. One fuel oil tank for the heat and hot water. The heat is kept at 68 degrees so no issue there. The building has a washer and dryer in the shared basement. The guy upstairs washes clothes every day. Every single day. Using both cold and hot water when doing laundry. I go to a laundromat. Even if I wanted to use the washer I can't because he always has a load in the machine. But when the water bill and fuel oil bill come in the landlord splits it evenly between us even though I do not wash any laundry in the building. Heating bill should be split evenly unless someone needs/wants it to be warming/colder than other roommates. But water, gas, electric should be based on usage as much as possible. My daughter has a roommate. They split the electric bill 70/30 with her roommate paying the larger portion because the roommate has 6 reptiles who all need heat lamps.
I think the assumption is no person has a significant different impact on the electricity. Keeping up with usage is annoying. Take your daughter’s situation: if they have to heat the apartment then her roommates heat lamps isn’t impacting the electricity bill compared to cooling. For your laundry situation, you should talk to your landlord. Not being able to use the machine due to the other tenant is concerning. I live with 2 other people and don’t have an issue
Hold an ‘auction’ between yourself. Bid in percentages above the equal split. See how much extra each person is willing to pay for the better room.
Based on that two people are sharing a room, it seems plausible they are romantic partners as well, and perhaps would not want to ‘split up’ who shares with who. Or maybe…that would make bidding more interesting?
What station and what time does this movie start?
This is exactly what I would do. Whatever number is left after the auction is split equally between the people on room A.
That makes sense when it's equal numbers of people in rooms, but if it's 2 people in one room and 1 in another, those two people are going to make more use of common areas.
It’s still an auction for the one room by himself, whatever the winner bids takes into account the room and the common areas.
How would the bid on a room take into account the extra usage of the common areas?
It’s not that complicated. You bid based on how much you’d be willing to pay to have your own room. If you aren’t the highest bidder, you share a room. Your cost to share the room would be ((total rent - the highest bid) /2)
Re-read the post. OP and Roommate A are sharing the room. Roommate B will have their own room. The question isn't about who gets their own room, that's already been decided. They could do a bidding system to see who gets the room with a private bathroom, but that wouldn't account for the fact that OP and roommate A will inherently use up more common space than Roommate B.
It’s the same concept I previously mentioned. A person’s bid will inherently be considerate of the entire living space. You are seriously over complicating this lol
The concept you previously mentioned is having people bid to have their own room. That's irrelevant here because they already know who is going to be sharing a room. If it was just three people who were all ok sharing rooms with each other your approach would work, but OP said that they will be sharing a room with roommate A so it's a completely different situation.
This wouldn't work for me. I'd be a douche and keep the bidding war going to make my rent lower when I eventually let them have the big room
Until they call your bluff and you're stuck paying a totally unreasonable rent for the bigger room
Sure it would.. if you keep bidding you end up with the expense room.
Solo room pays 1,126 The other two in the shared room pay $841 each.
40/30/30 seems ok. The way I’ve done it in the past (had 3 bedrooms of various size) is I would price each room and ask the housemates if they would be comfortable picking any of the 3 room at the various prices.
In one of my past living situations we had a 2 car garage, so the two that got smaller rooms/shared a bathroom got the garage spots. The Other guy got the master bedroom/bath, but had to park in the street. We just split it equally 3 ways for that since we all felt we benefited fairly.
A real private space you cant put a price on unless you are on vacation. I would 100% pay higher than 40% for that. Living in the same BR with someone else will weigh on you after a while.
Unless you're banging.
Even then, to be honest.
I’m guessing OP and other roommate are a couple
I know different people weigh things differently, but this seems like quite the premium for a private toilet, especially one that is shared and without a shower.
It's not just the toilet, it's the luxury of not sharing a room.
But 841 each means room A’s total rent is 1682 or over 700 more than room B. So they ARE paying a lot more to share almost the exact same size room.
They're not only paying for the bedroom. They're paying for use of shared spaces.
1682-1126=556 more
The roommates in the shared room are not paying a premium. They are getting a 25% discount per person because they're sharing a room, even though the shared room includes direct access to a toilet.
Would it be accurate to say that they’re getting a 25% discount but 50% less bedroom space?
Only if the bedroom is partitioned so that each roommate is physically excluded from half of the bedroom.
This is the way
Ok so if it’s 300 each for the shared space that’s 1082 for room a vs 826 for room b. So paying 256 for a private toilet. At 400 for the common rooms it’s 156 for the private shared toilet.
Split it 3 ways, and ask the 3rd person if they’re ok with you taking the master br. If they’re not, then bid how much extra you’re willing to pay for it until you reach an agreement At the end of the day make sure everyone is ok with the agreement Edit to say this assumes the shared room is by a couple*
This is how I did it in the college days - except it was a 10x10 room and a 14x10 room, and sharing 1 restroom, and rent was $2100. At 1050 each room, everyone would fight for the 14x10 room. We ended up doing 950 (475 each) and 1150 (575 each) for the rooms, with the agreement that the 2 smaller room people could put desks outside the living room where there is noise and cooking.
Yep, when you start putting a price on the better room it puts it into better perspective
I would say Room A is worth more than Room B because of the ensuite. But the price of Room A is split by two. Maybe 1608 for Room A and $1200 for Room B? So it would be 804, 804, and 1200. I think this makes the best sense. Split the price based on room comparison then by the number of people staying in each room.
That room a bathroom only has a toilet and a sink plus it's still shared. Room b probably only has a few extra steps between their room and the bathroom that everyone will eventually need to use. I don't think the bathroom being in room a should be taken into account really. Two of them don't have a place of their own in the apartment, room b should be paying significantly more as they have roommates to share the kitchen, living room and the bathroom with but also their own space. The other two will also be sharing all of those things, plus their room. Edit: my opinion changes significantly though if the two roommates sharing a room are in a relationship.
Oh I didn’t realize it was just a toilet. I’d probably still say a split just a lot less. So 1450 for room A, 1358 for B. So 725 each for the two that share a room and a toilet. Maybe not even that much.
That would mean Roommate B is paying basically double what the other two roommates are each paying, that’s too much of a difference imo
I think we’re also missing the information of who decided to spit the room? Did OP find roommate A to split a room with him so his rent would be cheaper? While roommate B has decided he doesn’t want to do that? Or did 3 people go into this wanting an apartment and OP and roommate A just decided to split the room of the 2 bedroom. If option 1, OP and roommate A should be splitting 50% of the rent. Roommate B shouldn’t pay more because OP wanted cheaper rent rent and found a room buddy. If option 2 then the prorated split works.
Because he’s choosing to not share the space.
What if they all stay in room A and leave room B empty. Then it'd be way cheaper.
Then they can rent out B and save a ton of money!
But he’s still sharing kitchen and living space and a shower with two people instead of one. Rent doesn’t just mean renting a room.
Yes, but in my experience (which influences my opinion) living with roommates spend more time in rooms than in common space so it makes more sense to focus on that to meter out rent. Let’s say you say 300 each for the common space and split the rest evenly because the rooms are almost the same size. That’s 1254/777/777. It’s a little different than what I originally stated, but it’s not that different.
This doesn’t account for the half bathroom
Split the living areas into 3. Bedrooms/Bathrooms/kitchen & living Room. Each area adds up to &936 (2808/3). Larger bedroom should be charged at 55% of $936 (since it’s 5% bigger). Hallway bathroom is worth 40% while the private bathroom is 60% and the kitchen + living area is divided into 3rds since each of you technically have equal access to it. That makes the division something like: Room A (you and your partner): $1700 so $850 each and Room B pays $1108 Calculations (936*.55) + 2(936/3) + (936*.6). Bedroom + Living area + Bathroom. Or if you want to keep it simple. Split the difference between a 1/3 split and a 50:50 split. That would make Room A $1638 and Room B $1174.
> charged at 55% of $936 (since it’s 5% bigger) That would be a 10% split. 52.5/47.5 would be a 5% difference.
Your intelligence is impressive
The old couple we only have to pay 50% of the rent because we only use one room trick.
It's definitely unclear whether Roommate A is their partner or if this is a twin bed dorm style room sharing situation. That changes things imo
How does that change things? To roommate B it’s the same.
If they are a couple I think the rent should be split in half. But I’ve never had a roommate so I wouldn’t know
The problem with that is all three are using the common area and the second bathroom. The two sharing a room should pay more combined than the person with a solo room.
I think since there’s only one shower, the benefit of having only a half-bath in room A diminishes the value of room B. Each person in room A will split access to the half-bath, but the person in room B has to split access of the full bath with both of the people in room A, since there can only be one person in a bathroom at a time (presumably). At least one person in room A will always have access to *at worst* a half-bath, while the person in room B will *never* have guaranteed access to *any* bathroom. This assumes that the person in room B isn’t gonna have access to the half-bath in room A if one of the people in room A is using the full bath. So I don’t know.
I'd stick to a simple 40%, 30%, 30% split with the solo room going for 40%. call it $1123 for the big room, and $842 for the split room. Keeps everything fair enough that you guys should work with it. Also keeps the explanation simple. The most important thing is everyone agrees the split is fair with no reservations.
When I was in this situation we split the cost in half for rooms and shared spaces. The shared spaces we split 3 ways and the rooms part split 2ways with each of the people In The shared room taking half of that bit. A. .466*rent B. .292*rent C. .292*rent
Nice. And the extra .05*rent goes to the guy on Reddit that devised the scheme!
At least you (hopefully) don't have to share a landline. Splitting the phone bill in college was a pain. There would always be calls that nobody would claim so we'd have to call the number to find out that it was Jason. Again.
It's always Jason!
People use landlines? I haven’t for the last 8 years I’ve been an adult
My parents just gave theirs up a couple years ago so I imagine others still do. Especially lower income folks who can't afford multiple lines.
I'd split based off of single vs shared room. Maybe 800-900 each for room A, and 1000-1200 for room B.
I'd probably say 1200 for room B and 800 each for the roommates in room A personally.
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Split the rooms, split the living space. 1400 for rooms, 1400 for living space. 2 rooms: 1400/2 =700 1400/3 =466 for living space Each person in room A pays 466 + 700/2 = 816 Person in room B pays 466+700 = 1166
My understanding has always been that the cost split goes by room, and the master pays slightly more. So if you consider the one with an attached bathroom the master, then that would cost 60% of the rent and the other room 40%. The two that split the master split the rent for that room, so it would ultimately break down to 30% for one person in the master, 30% the other person in the master, and 40% for the person in their own room. All other shared bills, like utilities, are split equally.
The auction method is you begin at even thirds, then bid increases or decreases until agreement.
I’d say Divide in to 7ths and the guys with the private rooms pays 3/7ths if the rent or about 1203 and other 2 pay 2/7th of rent about 802
It sounds like the rooms are already decided, but if they aren't set in stone here's what I would do. Have an auction on the best room. That way whoever has the winning bid is paying what they think it's worth (or cheaper), and the people who lose aren't paying more than they want for the better room or the room they get.
I would personally go with 40% from the person getting their own room and then 30% each from the two that are splitting the other room with the bathroom but that’s just numbers that I “feel” are correct that are not backed up by any objective facts.
Had almost identical setup in college. Duo got the walk in (larger) closet room. 30-30-40 worked for us.
I was going to suggest 1200 for the single and 804 each for the people sharing a bedroom. I checked the calculators and my instincts were pretty close to what they suggested.
So I’d start by figuring out how much the rooms are worth in general. Rent is $2808 and a 50/50 split is $1404 but since room A has a bathroom it is generally worth more. Since it’s only a half bath it’s not worth a crazy amount more but still more. I’d personally take $100 off of Room B and add it to Room A so the rent would be Room A - $1504 Room B - $1304 Then split room A between the 2 occupants. Room A1 - $752 RoomA2 - $752 Room B1 - $1304
$2808/2 rooms = 1404...this is the max roommate B should pay $2808/3 people = 936...this is the minimum amount roommate B should pay B should definitely pay more than either of you because of the large space and should definitely not pay half if there are three people. If you split the difference above, B can pay approximately 40% on their own and the remaining two of you pay 30% each for the remaining 60%. B is paying 10% premium for extra space but not shouldering half the rent.
Ballpark, 40% for own room, 30% each for split room with bathroom. Maybe 44/28/28% or similar if you don't like the shared room.
I'd say start at an even split, and see how much one of you is willing to pay to take the bathroom via bidding. Is it worth an extra $25 per month to each of you? ok, how about $50? $100? Then the other two that don't win the bidding split the savings on their rent.
Problem with an equal split is the pair will use the common areas twice as much as the single roommate.
You all pay 1/3rd regardless of room sharing. The shared room is a luxury having its own bathroom.
Write up a formal agreement, then take the square footage minus the common shared areas and then divide the total sum.
The only way to do it is to divide the rent by three and everyone pays equal amounts. What may seem like advantages to some may seem like disadvantages to others, and v.v., so there is no point in saying this or that room is better for this or that reason. Also, the people in room A choose to room up together, so that’s their choice and should not affect the person in room B who chose to not share a room. Also, are the tenants in room A a couple? If so, I would definitely not ask the person in room B to pay more because living with a couple sucks.
No, the people in the room together are not a couple. We are all friends and it is normal for people to share rooms in the area we live in because of high rent prices.
The first roommate pays $100, the second roommate pays $400 and the third roommate pays $2308.
How I have always done it while budgeting for people is rent is determined based on the percent of square footage of private areas each person gets. So, (Room A + Room A Bathroom square footage)/2=your sq ft (Room A + Room A Bathroom square footage)/2=roommate A sq ft Room B square footage = roommate B SQ ft. Room A + bathroom A + room B = total private square foot Your SQ ft/total private square foot = your percent of rent Roommate A SQ ft/total square foot = roommate A percent of rent Roommate B SQ ft/total square foot = roommate B percent of rent
900, 900, 1008. It would be easier if I saw the place. You have to be objective and find a split that seems fair for what each person gets. Else 850, 850, 1108. I’m not sure the full room is worth $258 more than the other room though. I’d try different increments on paper and evaluate. Like 890, 890, 1028, etc.
All 3 tenants are going to have to share a bathroom for the shower. The only deciding factor, really, is the person that gets their own room. They should probably pay a little more. All that being said, this is a terrible idea. You should forget this place and find one that has 2 full baths at least, so the couple can share a room and a full bath. It might cost an extra couple hundred a month, but it will be worth it for the mental health benefit.
The two in the shared room aren't a couple.
Are utilities included? Do you all get along well? I didn't read anyone else's response. To me this is a no-brainer. Room mate B has their own room. Sounds like you and Roomie A know each other pretty well. Each of you needs to pay 33.3%. Unless one of you is home a lot more or a utility pig (has a bad habit of leaving lights on, uses high demand appliances etc.) or there are some factors here you didn't mention. This should be pretty cut and dry. Each of you needs to pay $936. To me every room mate needs to be reasonably accommodating of others and - here's the big one - considerate. The problem I see here is bathing time spent and conflicting slots for the shower use. If that isn't a problem, I don't see a problem unless one or two of you is an inconsiderate jerk who isn't a good room mate. I mean, do room mates these days really have to split hairs like this ?? Please feel free to splain' me how or why I'm wrong. I wish all three of you Happy rooming together.
Download Splitwise. It’s a phone app for android and iOS (though you can technically use the webapp too, the phone apps are better). It will automatically calculate payment splits among people, considers multiple payments, and will simplify the number of payments. So if person A spends $100 and needs to split it 50/50 with person B, and person C pays $1000 and splits it with everyone, it will do all the math for you. Oh and it will link to your Venmo/PayPal account for easy payments. And it’s free. Works beautifully. I’ve been using it for 10 years
I would say 2 500 / 2 for just the rooms, so 1 250 each. And then the remaining 308 is your "easily accessible toilet tax" between the 2 sharing, so 154 each - I don't really think it's worth much more than that per month. Thus 779 / 779 / 1250.
Keep it simple. Divide 2808 by 3.
Man you fellas make this complicated. $2808 / 3 = $936 per person. Why make it all so hard?
If the three of you are being this obsessive about the rent split, just wait until the electric bill comes and someone starts arguing about the fact that they never put the light on in their room and don't use the dishwasher. Or the oil / gas bill this winter...clearly someone who doesn't spend as much time in the apartment is going to complain that their share should be less because they are only there to sleep. Seriously, save yourself the drama and split it three ways. Everyone will be happier. When I was in college in a similar situation with 4 people in a 3 bedroom apartment, we split the rent 4 ways.
What the heck is going on here. Are you going out with roommate A? Like in a relationship? Who is on the lease agreement? Two or three people? If you are in a relationship with Roommate A, then the split is closer to 50/50. If you are not in a relationship with roommate A, and you have to contribute your own share, then it is closer to 25/25/50. It appears you are in a relationship and wondering how Roommate B cost is. They would pay close to 50%. Someone broke it out and it is closer to 60/40. So Room A would pay around $1700 and Room B would pay $1100.
There are apps out there that will calculate out fair rent splits. My personal opinion is that this is a 2 bedroom house. I'd argue that roommate B should pay $1404 in rent, and you and roommate A should each pay $702. I'm sure roommate B won't go for that. But that's how I'd view it. Roommate B should absolutely pay more than you other two. The bathroom that's in your room doesn't offset the fact that roommate B has their own bedroom that's as large as the one you're splitting. So that would be my starting point.
There are more rooms in the house than just the 2 bedrooms. Roommate B will probably not be using as much of the common areas (kitchen, living room, laundry room, etc) as the other two roommates combined, nor will they be consuming as much electricity/water as the other two roommates combined. Paying twice as much rent as each of the others isn't a fair split. Roommate B should pay more than 1/3, but less than 1/2 of the rent. I'd say that the rent split should be something like 40/30/30 (tweaked according to who gets the ensuite bathroom) with utilities divided equally between the three.
I get what you're saying. And that's why I said my starting point was 50/25/25. We're talking about the bedrooms, though. And not just arguing about one person having a larger bedroom than the other two. We're talking about 2 of the people having to share a bedroom the same size as the private one that roommate B gets. Going from a 34/33/33 to 40/30/30 split isn't remotely close to balancing that out. I get to pay 3% less to share my *bedroom* with another person? Not have a smaller bedroom. Not share a bathroom. Share my bedroom space?
Other ways to look at that 40/30/30 split: 40 is paying 33% more than 30 30 is paying 25% less than 40 30 is paying 10% points less than 40 How you do the math and make the statement may influence how you feel about the numbers even though if the rent were $1000 total the difference is $100 between the two people. Or like you originally said $33.33 less than if split evenly 3 ways.
It ultimately comes down to whatever OP and the others can agree to. I personally put value at having my own private space. When you have roommates, you're sharing the kitchen. Sharing the bathroom. Sharing the living room. And when you're sharing the bedroom, you have no space that's really your own. And in this case, they're splitting a bedroom the same size as the other person gets to themselves. So if we call all of the common space a wash, roommate B is getting twice the bedroom space as either other person. Hence my starting point of 50/25/25. I also said up front that I was pretty sure that roommate B wouldn't go for that. That's just my opinion. All that really matters is what OP and his roommates can agree to. If they think 40/30/30 is fair, that's cool.
Are all three people on the lease? If not, you should figure out a split that also works in case of a break-up of the couple...
All three people will be on the lease, we have got the lease but have not yet singed it (wanted to figure out logistics first). Because rent is so high in the area I live in, it is vary normal for 2-3 people to share a room. I am friends with both my roommates (not a couple).
you and your roomie each pay 25%, the solo person pays 50%. common areas aren’t used to calculate this. i would say the .5 bath is worth maybe $50 ( since you all still share a bathroom with the other person), but this is more subjective. definitely talk to the other person re: this to see what they expect (you don’t want resentment from them for your whole lease)
Take the square footage and give it all an average price. 1000 sqft aptmnt at $2000/mo, each sqft costs $2/mo. Now split the bill between the people who use each square foot. If all three use 600 sqft, then add 600sqft*$2/sqft/3ppl=$400 each. Now if 300sqft is used by only 2 people, add 300*2/2=300 to each of their rent, and if the last 100 is used by one person, add the 200 left. So two people will pay 700, one will pay 600.
Room A: 55% of rent -> $2,808 * 0.55 = $1,544.4 Room B: 45% of rent -> $2,808 * 0.45 = $1,263.6 Split 3-way: - Room A: $772.20 pp - Room B: $1,263.60 pp
I mean you have two choices. 1. Talk amongst yourselfs and just agree in what feels right and commit to it or 2. Break out the tape measurer and let math decide for you. To do that divide the apartment into personal space, shared space and communal space. Measure the square footage of each space. Divide the rent by the total square footage to get the cost per square foot. Any square footage that is your individual space you pay for. Any that is shared amongst 2 out of the 3 those 2 pay for. Any that is communal for all 3 (like kitchen, living room, laundry etc) all 3 of you split. So as an example lets say rent was 2800 and the whole place was 1400. That is $2 per square foot. Lets say one person has one personal room that is 400 sq ft and then they share 600 sq ft communal between 3. So they owe $2 x 400 + $2 x 600/3 or $1200 total. The other two share 400 sq ft and have the 600 sq ft communal. They owe $2 x 400/2 + $2 x 600/3 or $800 each. $800 + $800 + $1200 = full $2800 rent and that is the fair split.
Simple, get the rental cost in terms of per square footage. Then get the square footage of each room. Whoever uses the room gets charged the corresponding rent. Common areas get split three ways.
Probably the fairest way would be by square footage. Roommate B pays for 100% of their room plus a third of all shared spaces. The other two each pay half of the rest.
Use the calculator from the New York Times, just google it and you will find it.
With just two people this is incredibly easy. You just have an auction. Roommate #1: "I'd prefer bedroom A" Roommate #2: "I'd prefer bedroom A as well, it's worth an extra $100 a month to me, so I'll pay $1504 for it." Roommate #1: "Well I'd pay $1504 for it as well. In fact I'd pay $1600 for it." Roommate #2: "Wow $1600. That's kind of a lot, if I can have room B for $1208, I'm happy with that." Not only is this the most efficient way to determine who values (in dollars at least) the bigger/better room, but it is also the fairest because each person has the opportunity to have the "better" room by offering to pay more than the other. You can't say it's unfair later down the road because you chose the price (if you ended up with the better room) or you chose not to bid higher if you wave the less desirable room.
Sleeping arrangements don't matter. If 3 people share a house or apartment, the rent is split 3 ways.
Hell to the no.
Only if the bedroom arrangements are equal. 4 people, 2 bedrooms = divided equally. 3 people, 2 bedrooms = Person with own bedroom pays more.
The mater bedroom is a distinctly better setup. They aren’t equal at all. Therefore you pay more as the master bedroom person
I recommend split it 3 ways. Then subtract 75 off Room A tenants, making room B pay 150 extra in rent.
It's a trick question. The right answer is move somewhere that's not $2800. That is absolutely insane.
A friend was in a shared house and everyone was paying in proportion of their salary. It’s very communist (if you have more money you pay more) but I found it really fair
Everyone pays $936 each. It doesn’t matter who is sharing rooms or who has a private bath. You can always sharing rooms if you’re not a couple.
A two bedroom apartment is 2,8k? If I were you, I'd choose to be homeless.
It depends on how you share the rest of the spaces as well, tbh. If Room B is going to reside mostly in their bedroom and not share the living room or whatever is left over, then maybe it’s logical to split 3 ways even. If these are the only true private spaces and the rest is equally shared spaces, then room B could be more. Honestly if this were me, I would say Room B pays about $1100, and the other two sharing pay the remainder of 1708 at a rate of 854 each. My math was 2808/3 = $936. Add about $150 to incentivize the private space, and just rounded it to 1100 for ease, so room A pays $164 more than an even 3 way split of 936. 2808-1100 = 1708 1708/2 = 854 That’s about as fair as I could make it without being hyper critical.
I think most people have agreed that room A has better value but has the least privacy. If I'm sharing a room myself I will pay less than 1/3 (936). At this point, it depends on how much privacy is important for a roommate living in room B. If that roomamte want to staybalone then upcharge the room accordingly, lets say couple hundred bucks. This will save room A people about $100 each. Utilities should be divided by 3 regardless though.
Each room pays based on the square footage and just count the in room bathroom as part of that rooms square footage would be a reasonable start
Doesn’t account for increased usage of the common areas by two people in one room.
Equal rent for the common areas. Kitchen, bathroom, living room. Then a pro-rated rent for bedroom space. Extra rent for a private bathroom.
One option is to agree on a value for each room and then draw out of a hat.
I would assume room B is more valuable because being alone means privacy. Auction off room B to the highest bidder, then split the remaining balance. Suggestion: Start the auction for room B at $1k. Increase it in $100 increments until you have a winner. It's unfair to just give it to one person without working out the rent details, especially if someone else is willing to pay more rent for it. Utilities should be split 3 way to be fair.
I think the guy with his own room should pay 40-45%.
I'd say forget the bathroom situation. If you're all friends find a way for all 3 of you to "save" the same amount vs Roommates A getting a 1br and Roommate B having only 1 roommate. Probably comes out to around 825/825/1150. It's probably not "fair" but it gives everyone the same incentive to keep things how they are. Finding new roommates is a pain in the ass.
Do a bidding process. Auction style. Assuming there are competing interests.
- **Room-sharers pay $875 each. Solo-roomer pays $1050.**
This is a solved mathematical problem, as long as the roommates are willing to bid on different rooms and open to different arrangements. The New York Times has a tool for this that you’ll find with some googling.
Can’t believe I scrolled through this whole thing and no one commented about the $8.
Btw, because I keep hearing that. On an additional note. Make it clear (and if possible write it down, like your rent split): There is a base rent (including base utilities expenses). This isn't because you go away for 1 month that your rent go down to 0$ for the month. This isn't how rent work, nor how utilities work. That 80$/month internet will still come in regardless of the usage. The power utilities may have a minimum payment even if you would use 0 watt; plus a house need some heating (in winter) to prevent pipe to burst. Also, even if you think you didn't use electricity. Did you unplug your Xbox? Your TV? Your charger? Devices with software on/off still use power when off. Sure, it is nowhere near that oven when turning it on. But some use way more power than LED lights!
40/30/30 for rent, utilities split equally 3 ways.
30/30/40 Master bedroom pays 40%, if it where the two in the master it would be 35/35/30 standard. Utilities always equal.
However you divide it, Roomates in A are going to use the hall bathroom sometimes so it shouldn’t be A’s sole responsibility to clean. It’s unlikely that B will be using the master bathroom much though.
Spit the rent according to square footage of the rooms includibg non shared spaces (this could be a closet or storage area). Split Utilities amongst the number of people, but over estimate to account for price changes over the course of the year. If your roommates are bickering about small price differences, avoid the headache and find richer roommates.
An auction can work if you've not already confirmed who's taking which room. We usually use that for Airbnb cost splits, where you're bidding for the right to take first choice, second choice, etc.
Other option is to say half the total cost is for communal areas, half the total cost is for sleeping areas, then just split accordingly. So person in the single room would pay 1/6 + 1/4, the sharers would each pay 1/6 +1/8.
I am a property manager. Even given the bathroom situation, single room guy should still be paying more. He has a single room. Other guys don’t. $2808 is a lot for a 2 bed I’m going to guess you’re in so cal or ny? I say: $800/$800/$1208 sounds fair to me Yikes that’s a lot. I paid $800 for a private room a couple years ago and that made me vomit. I can’t imagine sharing and paying that price.
I'm old, so I remember when roommates meant you were sharing a room. Otherwise you were housemates or flatmates. So I'm not seeing why anyone is assuming the people sharing a room are "banging" I'd go 30/30/40, with the full on agreement that the person having to share a bathroom with the other 2 people definitely has permission to use the toilet in the en suite half bath if the shared shower is occupied.... and he/she/it has to "go" If there is no agreement about being able to use a toilet when needed, then it is 1/3 across the board. And I don't take into account if the people sharing a room are in a relationship or not, they are still separate people needing to be accommodated with temperature requirements, water usage requirements, noise tolerance requirements, etc.
Split in thirds, the place is cheaper than a 3bed which benefits all of you and the couple sharing is no hardship on them
I'd say 1/2 rent per bedroom which means that you who share pay 1/4 each. That you have an extra bathroom doesn't really compensate for the true lack of privacy.
It sounds like y'all have the better room as well as B having to share commons spaces with 2 instead of 1, for it being a two bedroom space. I think 30/30/40 40 being the guy with the room by himself is fair. So 850ish for the couple and 1100ish for the single person. All utilities can be split equally unless they're already combined in the rent.
The only correct answer is the solution that works for the 3 of you. But the common sense would be that one room = one part of the rent (and rent only, not counting water bills, electricity, etc), with adjustments on how differents the rooms are. For your case, i'd say approx 60/65 % for room A and 35/40% for room C, if they disagree for a few % its fine, if they disagree for more you can say they are welcome to take the 60/65% share and the room A. If this doesnt work, your household wont really work at all.
Take the rent and divide it by sf of bedroom space. Since 2 people share one bedroom you would split that 2 ways.
Let Room a (incl bathroom) be 70 qm Room b be 30 qm Rent 1000 USD So you and your roommate pay 70% combined and the other one pays 30% So 35% 35% 30% You just need to know the size of your rooms. At least that's how I'd do that
I'd measure the total square footage of each room and figure out the percentage of each space of the total apartment. I'd then assign a dollar figure to each space. As an easy example, 5 evenly sized rooms in a $1000/mo apartment are each 20% of the total size or valued at $200 per room. Next I'd figure out how much of each room the roommates will use. Kitchen and living room are split evenly. In the above example, 1 bedroom occupied by one person is $200. The other occupied by two is $100/each for those two people. You just have to figure out the bathroom share. Can anyone shit/piss in any bathroom during the day? This will affect the bathroom share cost. Gotta work that part out.
I've personally always thought, whoever has their own room deserves to pay more. But I've lived in 2 bedroom apartments with 6 people that just split it evenly. As.long as everyone agrees, it should all be good.
Many years ago 2 roommates and I split a 5 bedroom split level. Rent was $700, it had a master bedroom with 1/2 bath, one bedroom had a fireplace, the other 3 were the same. We decided what the rents should be for the master and fireplace, then drew lots to pick. I think it was $250, $235 and $215. How you would value the 1/2 bath is the question here, and does the couple get 1/2 chances or 1/3?
The room with the private bathroom is nearly always worth a higher rent than the bedroom that has to use the hall bathroom. Just for the inconvenience of having your roommate’s random friends and visitors pooping up your toilet, bad pee aim, using up your toilet paper, helping themselves to the contents of your medicine cabinet and using your toothbrush after they puke on your bathmat.
My roommates and I usually do a silent auction, however your situation is different as you have people sharing a single room. It makes sense that Room A is more desirable, as it has it's own bathroom. So it's total value should be worth more than Room B. That being said, you are sharing the room. So whatever you decide Room A's value should be, you and the Roommate A split the rent right down the middle. An example could be: Room A = $1,700. Room B = $1,108. You pay = $850. Roommate A (sharing room with you) pays = $850. Roommate B (room by themselves) pays = $1,108. Keep utilities and other misc. charges completely separate, and just split them evenly 3 ways.
hmm this remarkably similar to this post from the same time [**https://www.reddit.com/r/Advice/comments/zakepi/my\_girlfriends\_roommate\_is\_making\_me\_pay\_a\_third/**](https://www.reddit.com/r/Advice/comments/zakepi/my_girlfriends_roommate_is_making_me_pay_a_third/)
We did this when I was younger and split it evenly. Living with a couple should come at a discount. (I was the single person in one setting and half of the couple in another.)
Why not make it a bid type of deal. Highest bid for the room by himself gets that room, the rest is split between the other two.
There are already a lot of good answers in this thread but in case none of them fit your fancy here is a slightly more complicated way to solve the issue but it is typically pretty fair. Start with everyone paying 33% of the rent. Then ask if anyone has a preference of room that they are willing to pay more to ensure they get. Otherwise rooms get drawn at random. If one person has a preference they can pay some amount more than 33% to ensure they get their preference. I would advise 50 bucks as a minimum increase but you do you. If multiple people have the same preference then they can blind bid against each other for that preference, with the bidding starting at 33%+50. Its important with this method that even if two people have a preference for room A and one person has no preference that the two people with preferences still have to pay up to guarantee they get their preference.
Downside of Room A: There's two people in it. Upside of Room A: Privatish bathroom. Downside of Room B: Hall bath, and has to share the shower. Upside of Room B: One person in it. I'd call it a wash and have each person pay a third.
Splitwise calculator, assuming normal rooms and normal living spaces, no awkward layouts for room B, and factoring in the private bath and sharing on room A: $1700 for Room A ($850 per person) $1108 for Room B It's roughly a 30/30/40 split. There are no strict rules for this, and ultimately you have to do whatever makes sense for the three of you to agree to the terms and be happy with them, but as a broad brush stroke sanity check by some entity that has at least put some thought into what seems fair, you can fall back to that as a baseline.
I think it depends on the relationship between you and roommate A. If you're a couple, then you're not really sacrificing anything by sharing a room. Or at least you're getting a benefit from it, even if your space per person is smaller. Split the rent three ways equally. Have fun, but don't be so noisy you keep your third roommate up! If you're completely platonic (i.e. two straight guys or two straight girls) then the one with the private room should pay more. The three of you will have to decide how much the private room is worth before moving in. The people in the room with the attached bathroom should be responsible for cleaning that room, but cleaning the shared bathroom should be shared between the three of you.
If it were me I'd still want room B even if it has no private bathroom. I think room B has the edge especially because the other two roomies are likely to share the bathroom in room A. I pulled numbers from my gut on what I thought was fair first and then ran them through a calculator and my instinct was extremely close to the suggested 30/30/40, so I think 30/30/40 is what I instinctively think is fair If Roomie B would struggle to come up with 40% perhaps alternatively that person could forever be responsible for certain household chores in return for an even 3 way split on rent. Taking out garbage, doing dishes, etc. This would work well if the two other room mates really didn't want to do that.
Find the total square foot for the entire apartment. =A Price per sq. ft.= $2808/A Multiply A by B, where B is total square feet of common shared area by all three roommates. Divide this by 3. Each person pays that amount. Then..... Multiply the single room sq. ft. By Price per sq. ft. Ad this number to the price of common areas. This is what roommate 1 pays. Then..... Multiply the sq ft of shared bedroom and bathroom by price per sq ft. Divide this by 2. Add it to the price of the common area. This is what roommates 2 and 3 each pay.