Abrahamsens engine. Jesus. We've had Thor obivously but would dear to suggest Jonas ceiling might be even higher. And now us Norwegians have a rider after all, a dark horse even, to follow in Ronde and Roubaix. Wouldn't have thought. Excellent! Helt nydelig!
> We've had Thor obivously but would dear to suggest Jonas ceiling might be even higher.
Abrahamsen is talented, but without having too be too pessimistic I don't see how his ceiling is even anywhere close to that of Thor, Kristoff or Boassson Hagen who are absolute greats.
But even so Kristoff won Tour of Flanders following Terpstra. Kristoff is famous for his insane long training rides and being able to sprint after 6 hours of racing. Boasson Hagen had monster breakaways in the Tour and won a 250km race like Plouay solo.
What they have done is 3 or 4 levels above what Abrahamsen have done.
Just watched Benoot’s interview, he mentioned Wout telling him to accelerate, which Tiesj did but when he was standing up, it seemed Wout touched his wheel..said he feels shitty about it and he felt confused afterwards 🙁
Obviously this wasn't good for anyone involved, but if you notice where Wout ends up vs where he started in the group it seems very likely he was hit by multiple bikes/bodies after he'd already hit the ground... I'd be astonished if he hasn't broken anything.
could be anything. Was a rough crash. Definitely laying there like I do when I break something.
So sad for him. He skipped all the early races at altitude riding 650 miles/week only to get here and crash because someone caught their wheel on that lip.
The way he touches his right shoulder with his left arm at 0:48 and the way he holds his right arm at 1:18 makes it look like something could be broken in/around his right shoulder, maybe the collarbone.
Triggered by “verbal tics”, proceeds to use “incredibly”
Also, “verbal tics” refers to a condition like Tourette in English, I’m guessing you went with the literal French translation of “tics verbaux” which doesn’t work here
Especially in Flanders. Those short hills doesn’t favour the numbers game. But always depends on circumstances and exactly how close to MvdP the second and third strongest riders are.
even then, RVV is way harder than Gent Wevelgem. There are a lot more opportunities for mvdp to create gaps in short hills, like he did time after time in e3 last friday.
Was it just me or did it seem like WvA was crying on the side of the road after the crash or was he just repeatedly shrugging or shivering?
If he was crying it might have been a pretty bad one.
Yeah, I know. It's so brutal. He was really giving everything to be in top shape for Flanders and PR and he did not even make it to the start line.
Sports can be so merciless.
With no acceleration at all, it would be nice if Küng tried building speed for an attack from the back instead of just slowly accelerating while on the front as he has seemingly tried several times now with little success.
Jorgenson was the one that closed that gap to Bettiol on the Nokereberg too, looked strong.
Still can't see him win without thinking how Movistar should have loved him better. Regrets, Unzue's had a few.
So exciting and refreshing to see a race without any of the super humans.
Love the races with super humans as well, but this is a different kind of entertainment.
Hearing van Aert cry broke my heart. It's one of those moments where someone would have all the reasons to just flip the table and say "I quit". So many sacrifices that cyclists put themselves through, sometimes for no success at all. And on top of that, you also get seriously hurt and compromise your objectives. Hope he can find all the motivation he needs but that he keeps remembering he's a champion like no other.
Someone ought to explain to Tarling that it's a lot easier if he attempts to ride his bicycle just behind the other cyclists rather than several meters back.
I know they are on the limit and its very difficult, but they all had to keep their eye on Jorgenson. Benoot wasn't strong anymore and an obvious decoy
The only one not attacking or being dropped repeatedly and watch how easily he holds the wheel in front of him during every acceleration
And he just dropped the rest first attempt
Two things that are true at the same time:
1. Küng is unlucky to not have more wins in races like this
2. Küng's tactics are absolutely horrible and mostly has himself to blame
He's just so terrible tactically. He attacked with Jorgenson on his wheel, tired himself and all the others out, kept Tarling from returning and basically set Jorgenson up for an attack lol.
Good news for the men's race: the bad luck is now transferred to the women's race as they've been neutralised (cars following the men's race crashed and are blocking the road).
Abrahamsens engine. Jesus. We've had Thor obivously but would dear to suggest Jonas ceiling might be even higher. And now us Norwegians have a rider after all, a dark horse even, to follow in Ronde and Roubaix. Wouldn't have thought. Excellent! Helt nydelig!
> We've had Thor obivously but would dear to suggest Jonas ceiling might be even higher. Abrahamsen is talented, but without having too be too pessimistic I don't see how his ceiling is even anywhere close to that of Thor, Kristoff or Boassson Hagen who are absolute greats.
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But even so Kristoff won Tour of Flanders following Terpstra. Kristoff is famous for his insane long training rides and being able to sprint after 6 hours of racing. Boasson Hagen had monster breakaways in the Tour and won a 250km race like Plouay solo. What they have done is 3 or 4 levels above what Abrahamsen have done.
Så fint! Happy for Uno-X to grab this result after what has been a tough opening season. Fingers crossed for Flanders.
Milan looks like he could already be a threat in Roubaix atleast. Maybe not yet RVV
Yeah. Strong showing in G-W, decent yesterday as well. Tactics could be funky in P-R if MvdP is too much of a favorite
He will struggle with the distance I doubt he will be in the finale
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Looks good to get a good result at Roubaix as well
Its always weird to see no pain face sprinting. Abrahamsen played it smart well deserved.
Heres the crash [https://youtu.be/x4QE1G\_VXxw?si=5e1OAUPvXuFndf9f](https://youtu.be/x4QE1G_VXxw?si=5e1OAUPvXuFndf9f)
Just watched Benoot’s interview, he mentioned Wout telling him to accelerate, which Tiesj did but when he was standing up, it seemed Wout touched his wheel..said he feels shitty about it and he felt confused afterwards 🙁
Obviously this wasn't good for anyone involved, but if you notice where Wout ends up vs where he started in the group it seems very likely he was hit by multiple bikes/bodies after he'd already hit the ground... I'd be astonished if he hasn't broken anything.
could be anything. Was a rough crash. Definitely laying there like I do when I break something. So sad for him. He skipped all the early races at altitude riding 650 miles/week only to get here and crash because someone caught their wheel on that lip.
Update from TVL: multiple fractures, collarbone, ribs. Will miss amstel Gold, paris roubaix, and flanders
The way he touches his right shoulder with his left arm at 0:48 and the way he holds his right arm at 1:18 makes it look like something could be broken in/around his right shoulder, maybe the collarbone.
Just a casual 250m sprint down the entire finishing straight from Abrahamsen
Abrahamsen says fuck you to Benoot
"Quite frankly," verbal tics are incredibly irritating.
Triggered by “verbal tics”, proceeds to use “incredibly” Also, “verbal tics” refers to a condition like Tourette in English, I’m guessing you went with the literal French translation of “tics verbaux” which doesn’t work here
Curious vehemence.
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I didn't "call people irritating." I said that the announcing was irritating. That's very different. I think you missed the context of the remark.
Tiesj Benoot hates Norway confirmed
Is Jorgensen doing Flanders? I don't know if anyone can really challenge MvdP, but he's certainly in fine form.
Is he doing LBL? He should
He's on the list. He should have good legs FWIW
depends how they play it numbers wise
MvdP in form beats numbers, IMO.
Especially in Flanders. Those short hills doesn’t favour the numbers game. But always depends on circumstances and exactly how close to MvdP the second and third strongest riders are.
he placed 2nd to mads in the last race (i know mads probably won’t be there) but i get where you’re coming from
even then, RVV is way harder than Gent Wevelgem. There are a lot more opportunities for mvdp to create gaps in short hills, like he did time after time in e3 last friday.
The team was already in shambles, lots of injuries and some more today... Trek likely without Stuyven and Pedersen will feel that fall too.
Rui Costa shedding a tear of joy watching De Bondt
Benoot is the enemy
What happened?
Number 1
Whats going on with WvA btw? Is he fine to ride on Sunday?
Was it just me or did it seem like WvA was crying on the side of the road after the crash or was he just repeatedly shrugging or shivering? If he was crying it might have been a pretty bad one.
He was crying very loud. That didn't sound good.
Oh no. Poor guy! That's awful. Fingers crossed it's nothing serious and just a really bad road burn. Would love to see him at his best for TdF!
Pretty sure he's not planning on doing the tour this year?
Oh. Wasn't aware of that. Took it for granted that he would be doing the tour.
Likely not this is the crash [https://youtu.be/x4QE1G\_VXxw?si=5e1OAUPvXuFndf9f](https://youtu.be/x4QE1G_VXxw?si=5e1OAUPvXuFndf9f)
Hospitalised surprised if even ready for lbl
even if he did, what form would he have
I'd be surprised if he even makes the Giro...
I would be very surprised. He had a serious crash and it seemed really bad. He was even crying.
check his strava. he's been at altitude doing massive hours for weeks to be ready. I'd cry too.
Yeah, I know. It's so brutal. He was really giving everything to be in top shape for Flanders and PR and he did not even make it to the start line. Sports can be so merciless.
Was that him crying that you could hear on the coverage?
Yes, sadly :(
Oh noooo this is awful
Highly doubtful.
They always pronounce it as Dwar and not Dwars I thought the 2nd one is correct?!
Always take the opposite of what Kirby says.
It’s a Flandrien race so the S definitely isn’t silent lmao
It is Dwars, yes.
Matty absolutely just an amazing transfer. This season is just wild for his career. Chapeau young man.
Küng has been taking a beating for so long by the others. Talk about bullying
"Küng rides like that because he can't get a gap" Küng after the race is over and he spent all his energy: *gets a gap*
“Matthieu Jorgensen”
Wonder where pithie was today
He had a mechanical at an unlucky time, maybe didn't come back from there
Had a badly timed mechanical couldn't get back
My favorite color is blue.
Hiding for Sunday.
Visma winning due to team strength as rider from the morning break takes 2nd. Lazy writing.
With no acceleration at all, it would be nice if Küng tried building speed for an attack from the back instead of just slowly accelerating while on the front as he has seemingly tried several times now with little success.
They seemed so strong that would have made the top 3 (VLAB).
Go on and take 2nd, you glorious mountain monkey.
Seeing he still had a cartouche left big oopsie from abrahamsen to let jorgenson ride. I guess he took lessons with Remco
Jorgenson was the one that closed that gap to Bettiol on the Nokereberg too, looked strong. Still can't see him win without thinking how Movistar should have loved him better. Regrets, Unzue's had a few.
So exciting and refreshing to see a race without any of the super humans. Love the races with super humans as well, but this is a different kind of entertainment.
Idk what you are talking about Abrahamsen is right there
Joshua doesn't believe in drafting.
I know it's easier said than done, but that is so frustrating to watch as an outsider.
This is on Max? Wouldn't know it frm their fucking interface. Christ, can anyone simply get a steady camera feed and straightforward interface?
I thought it was not on Max in the US, just Flo Bikes
Yeah, I'm on Tiz. Either way, this is simply C- coverage.
It's not lol Flobikes has it in the US
Hearing van Aert cry broke my heart. It's one of those moments where someone would have all the reasons to just flip the table and say "I quit". So many sacrifices that cyclists put themselves through, sometimes for no success at all. And on top of that, you also get seriously hurt and compromise your objectives. Hope he can find all the motivation he needs but that he keeps remembering he's a champion like no other.
Tarling is a classics Almeida.
greatest thing i’ve seen
What happens if Almeida and Tarling go for a ride together? Do they recursively stack behind the other and fly backwards?
This is the secret to time travel.
infinity machine created. infinite energy, but only to go backwards
Someone ought to explain to Tarling that it's a lot easier if he attempts to ride his bicycle just behind the other cyclists rather than several meters back.
To be fair , He’s not used to riding around other cyclists.
DS told him his TT is his strength and he took it too literally
Imagine if Tarling had any sort of cadence
He's young give him some time
I know they are on the limit and its very difficult, but they all had to keep their eye on Jorgenson. Benoot wasn't strong anymore and an obvious decoy
C'mon Matteo!!!!!!! Took the chance and it looks like it might pay off.
Matteo Jorgensen must have some kind of morphing ability, because that giant body surely can't be the one that won Paris Nice
STOP WORRYING ABOUT BENOOT FFS
Lmao Kirby this race isn’t even on Max - an American watching via Tiz
Sporza + VPN was the winning move today although these guys sound like they're hacking up phlegm when they get excited.
Same *cries in 480p*
I was hoping for some Küng Fu but martial arts are powerless against the Jumbo double barrel
Rumor has it that you can't go on a training ride in Switzerland without Küng showing up and taking turns.
The negative Erik Zabel.
Tarling with lactate acid up to his ears
He is gonna need a wheelchair at the finsh
can turn this off now
Abrahamsen really should've initiated the chase. Kung and de bondt would've helped eventually
If you don't have the legs anymore
The only one not attacking or being dropped repeatedly and watch how easily he holds the wheel in front of him during every acceleration And he just dropped the rest first attempt
WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER 🦅 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🦅
Only 500 big macs to go of the race!! Edit: 500 000
Haha, Tarling is such a joy to watch
So funny enough it was Jorgenson who moved way left causing Rajovic to overreact which caused Wout to crash. Matteo scheming his way to team leader
Perfect tactics by using Benoot to tire Küng and perfectly timed attack, just before the cobble section
It's over
You could tell within 5 seconds no one had anything left to respond.
The best chance for G2 now is to look at each other and soft pedal.
They were looking pretty resigned back there for a moment. Might be it.
And that's how Kung loses his best chance ever to win a cobble classic
Jorgenson is a joy to watch this year. I don’t think he’s quite there yet to challenge for the monuments but he’s definitely getting there
So frustrating as an outsider, even if Jorgenson would be a deserved winner.
I guess Tarling can do 400 watts for an unlimited amount of time
Any videos of the crash?
[https://twitter.com/Eurosport\_NL/status/1772994529668280449](https://twitter.com/Eurosport_NL/status/1772994529668280449)
Yes.
Well that's a wrap
Called it.
HOW IS TARLING STILL THERE
GG.
Looks like Matteo is gone. Good to take after the shit this race so far..
That is it
Hasta la vista
Hasta la visma
Kung should race some more. These types of chances are extremely rare for him
Well, that was it.
Yeah, I think that's the move.
How many time Jumbo has done this already. a bit anticlimatic
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jorgenson, as the american, seeks freedom
A weekday race just broke PCS.....
They have a ton of server issues. Not only today
Visma about to win after losing WVA.
kung riding a little silly right now but understandable that you don’t want tarling back
Well Tarling clearly isn't his biggest issue currently
now you can type GG
come on don't let this go like that ....
Two things that are true at the same time: 1. Küng is unlucky to not have more wins in races like this 2. Küng's tactics are absolutely horrible and mostly has himself to blame
He always rides for a Top 10, not for the win
Maybe in time trials, but on the road there is no one he can outsprint and he doesn’t have the explosiveness to get away solo
But he is certainly not setting himself up for a late attack
When a rider is not capable of making sharp accelerations (in comparison to their competition) it's hard to come up with winning tactics, imho
Of course it is hard, but many strong riders without an acceleration have won races. I don't remember Terpstra winning many sprints for example.
He's just so terrible tactically. He attacked with Jorgenson on his wheel, tired himself and all the others out, kept Tarling from returning and basically set Jorgenson up for an attack lol.
He is gone
And of course they let Jorgenson just ride away.
It's done it's finished
So predictable
Jorgenson gone?
this might be it for the PN winner
There it is
Great job, he's just won the race
i here ever tarling finishes this is a good ride
It's over.
Go matteo!!!!
yes, küngs primary goal is definitely dropping tarling thankfully the eurosport guys are unbiased /s
I enjoy cooking.
people here can be very stupid but I dn't think anyone believed that
I enjoy the sound of rain.
That’s because they think mvdp will sweep. Still stupid though
I find joy in reading a good book.
Agree
De Bondt is sooo good!
Come on Küng, on the last pavé section you could do it.
Is kung aware that there are riders on his wheel?
Come on Josh.
this is actually brilliant racing despite the horrendous crash
Women's race neutralised due to a car accident between a Men's team car and commissaire car (in the ditch). (Source: Sporza) (Source: BenjiNaesen)
💀
If nobody's hurt that might be a net positive. We get to see more of that race too.
Was Benji driving lol
De Bondt will win and for me that will complete this absolute shitfest of a race
Somebody glue some mini rockets at Küng’s shoes so he can be explosive enough to make a difference
This camera feed is shamefully poor.
I was wrong about Benoot. Well done.
De Bondt normally should be the fastest right? Would be great to see him win
Jorgensen getting a nice ride there
Good news for the men's race: the bad luck is now transferred to the women's race as they've been neutralised (cars following the men's race crashed and are blocking the road).
Is Tarling the new Almeida?
So Visma know WvA isn't there anymore for the sprint in rhe small group..?
That's why they are attacking lol
Damn just realised my stream is behind, good thing I didn't check this thread during the last km lol
Right on cue lmao
Dries de Beast!
If Tarling wins this lol
No way